Here I am with a totally new idea of puzzle.
You just have to post a number between 101 and 16500.
The number corresponds to a car-maker (or designer, or racer, or....) of my archive (that goes from 1 to 16600 but I had to cut head and tail).
I'll write just the name of the maker you selected.
You'll have to prove you know it. (it's easy if you hit a famous name but others may be hard...).
If you succeed you'll score as much as the models of that maker in my archive plus 20 and you can proceed with another number.
Your following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184)
If you give the wrong answer you'll score -3 and you can decide if continue with that maker or leave it.
If you can't id the maker you can:
1. try another number (and score a -10)
2. ask for one of the following clues #1- time range, #2- nationality, #3- Full name, #4- bonus, and they will cost you -1 each and have to be asked in that sequence. (#4 varies according to the maker)
Who is going to win?
The 1st one that will hit one of the top 10 makers (with more than 800 models each) or the 1st one who will score 1000*!
It will take a while, since only few makers are listed with more than 100 models!
Please not that my index will go on in the meantime and those numbers will ...move!
All of you will have the chance to play as much as the winner so you can post a number and see if you are lucky or you can compensate your bad luck with your knowledge
(A picture of a car related in any way to the maker is highly appreciated when available...I don't want a series of posts with no pics.)
*Each player will have the same number of attempts for both goals.
Important notes:
The car in the picture is useless, it will be featured in a following puzzle of mine!
You can try a number and leave the game without playing.
The name you'll find can be a maker, a racer, a coachbuilder, a single man, a school, a company, etc. etc
The clues can't be available for the most obscure names!
I'm talking of credits and not points! A wrong answer will cost you 3 credits...nobody will loose a point here!
You can ask for a snapshot of my database ANYTIME to prove the correspondance with the name or the number of models.
Few clues about my index: in case of makers with the same name, I proceed listing the oldest ones first.
You have 4 clues for each number you choose.
Some makers may have multpile names: I can have all of them separately.
Some makers change theyr name along theyr lives: they can be listed separately.
I may have listed some makers under different names according to some sources.
Players, numbers & scores:
Otto, you had 33 numbers, asked 4 times for a clue (-4), 8 times you got the wrong maker (-24) and 8 times you pass your number (-80).
Your 25 correctly identified numbers (+500) had a total of 58 models (+58).
An average 2,32 for each maker, best result was Kaiser-Willys with 11 models.
You beated your bad luck with your knowledge.
Pguillem in your 33 numbers, you look for a clue 9 times (-9), guess incorrectly 14 times (-42) and skip your number 11 times (-110).
Your 22 valid numbers (+440) had a total of 176 models (+176).
Average 8 model x maker, best results were Shelby (2) +58, and Rolls Royce of America (+45).
Not bad, you played with a hint of strategy but you tried each one and hit good ones.
Targhediferro with 41 numbers you never needed a clue and got it wrong 13 times (-39). You quit 13 numbers (-130).
Your 27 good numbers (+560) brought you 339 models (+339).
Average 12,5 model x maker thanks to just 2 best results: Bugatti (1) with 184 models and Minerva with 77.
You missed quite a number of good ones helping others but also took a couple of good ones thanks to others...a well balanced game, good mix of strategy, knowledge and luck.
D-type in 33 numbers just 2 clues (-2) and 16 wrong guesses (-58). You changed your number 16 times (-160).
With 17 valid guesses (+340) you got 815 models (+815).
Average 47,9 model x maker thanks to your 2 excellent shots: BMW (1) with 406 models and Maserati (+296).
You were nearly there and you used a simple strategy, try to spot good makers also consulting the list. Your luck and knowldege did the rest!
Wendax 45 numbers and 7 clues (-7) but only 6 wrong guesses (-18). You drop just 2 numbers (-20).
43 good numbers (+860) added to 187 models (+187) made you reach 1000.
Average 4,35 model x maker and just 3 numbers with nearly 30 models (ACME 1 +34, D'Ieteren 1 +29 and Spoerer +28).
You are the proof that you do not need luck if you have knowledge. You randomically picked up numbers after numbers, regardless of the list and reached your score. Teutonic!
Joao with 33 numbers and 7 clues (-7) you were wrong 9 times (-27). You skip 10 numbers (-10).
With just 23 good numbers (+460) and theyr 1256 models (+1256) you hit both goals.
Average 54,6 model x maker (but it was 89,7 considering also Lancia's +808!) and a couple of big hits: Renault (+619) and Ferrari (1) (+555).
You were hard to beat: mixing knowldege, strategy and just a hint of luck, you planned you victory.
RESULTS
Joao: 33 numbers, score: 1580
Wendax: 45 numbers, score: 1002
D-Type: 33 numbers, score: 945
Targhediferro: 41 numbers, score: 710
pguillem: 33 numbers, score: 455
Otto Puzzell: 33 numbers, score: 450
DNF
Arunas: 29 numbers, score: 556
Pnegyesi: 17 numbers, score: 246
Faksta: 13 numbers, score: 121
Allan L:8 numbers, score: 47
Ropat53: 2 numbers, score: 24
Tom_I: 2 numbers, score: 13
Only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200, I'll tell you just a model name and let's see what happens!
Can you find the makers?
+50 if you find it *,
-30 each one you skip,
-10 wrong guesses**,
-3 each clue you need.
You can have 5 clues, first I'll give you useless one, then, when possible, more useful ones untill I'll try to help as much as I can.
No rules and no points here, just fun***!
*...but if you pick a maker already found by others (or by yourself) you'll receive 5, not 50.
(Why 5 and not 0? Because I won't make a list of all the makers already out and you should look back to check them all, so if it happens, you won't be too penalized.)
**If you find the right name and the answer is correct but 'it's a matter of numbers' it means that the maker share its name with one or more others -Bugatti (1), Bugatti (2), etc..-.
In this case, your nearly right (or nearly wrong) answer will bring you -1.
***I won't be too 'professional' in this game...you played before now it's my turn to play with you! ;)
This part of my archive is quite rough and for my use only...don't be surprised if something is not like it should be, it's a long story.
I've read rules 5 times, but I think they will be clearer if we proceed with the game.
What if I choose a symbolic 2014?
What is going next?
It's much easier than the way I try to explain.
The number you choose corresponds to:
BLAKE (4).
Now you can:
try to id the maker giving me just few details to prove we are talking about the same one or
ask for clue #1 (time range) or
chose a new one.
Your 1st pick wasn't too lucky, but it can be worse!
There can be multiple players, of course!
I'll have a go at # 2310.
A lucky one:
BRIANZA
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
A lucky one:
BRIANZA
I hope that you think of Carrozzeria Brianza. An Isotta-Fraschini by them shown below:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:19:30 AM
It's much easier than the way I try to explain.
The number you choose corresponds to:
BLAKE (4).
Now you can:
try to id the maker giving me just few details to prove we are talking about the same one or
ask for clue #1 (time range) or
chose a new one.
Your 1st pick wasn't too lucky, but it can be worse!
I have only one Blake:
1900 - 1903 F.C. Blake & Co. from UK
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:23:18 AM
A lucky one:
BRIANZA
I hope that you think of Carrozzeria Brianza. An Isotta-Fraschini by them shown below:
That's it!
Here's a snapshot of my database...it's easy, I just have to select the number you chose, then open the subfolder and read the number of models: you scored 9 points (I know there are more but those are the ones in my archive so far!) plus 20 and you can proceed!
Next pick is # 1001.
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 08:26:57 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:19:30 AM
It's much easier than the way I try to explain.
The number you choose corresponds to:
BLAKE (4).
Now you can:
try to id the maker giving me just few details to prove we are talking about the same one or
ask for clue #1 (time range) or
chose a new one.
Your 1st pick wasn't too lucky, but it can be worse!
I have only one Blake:
1900 - 1903 F.C. Blake & Co. from UK
Unfortunately is not that.
You have now -3... you can keep on trying, ask for a clue or try a new one and go to -23.
Credits are free ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:32:37 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 08:29:32 AM
Next pick is # 1001.
ATTICA
That seems to fit 100 percent with my interest. This must be the Greek licence-built Fuldamobil S7.
You are lucky!
That's it.
I've just that plus the Cabrioletta so 2+20 more credits.
My next one is a larger number: 13122.
Hey, it's open for all!!!
Just post a number, it won't cost you a thing! ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:43:18 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 08:42:31 AM
My next one is a larger number: 13122.
RVIA
It is getting a bit more difficult. Slight research unearthed the RVIA Sunrise neo-classic car from the USA.
Difficult? You hit 3 quite known names with nearly zero alias!
You'll se once you'll find some obscure names I found in old magazines or similar! ;)
+21 for you!
Ok, heading for the worst to come: 7486
I want to skip this Blake [4]
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 08:55:42 AM
Ok, heading for the worst to come: 7486
HOL-TAN
The American Fiat importer built some cars in his own name in 1907/1908:
Wise choise!
Blake Automobile Company from Cambridge, Massachusetts was the company that later evolved into the Cambridge Automobile Company, Cambridge, Massachusetts and there are few info about!
Next number now!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:05:54 AM
Wise choise!
Blake Automobile Company from Cambridge, Massachusetts was the company that later evolved into the Cambridge Automobile Company, Cambridge, Massachusetts and there are few info about!
Next number now!
3031
Next number: 9588
I'm going to add an important rule:
I don't want to post a limit and if a member (and myself) has got time to post a number after another I'd like to have him playing...but in this case he well take advantage from this...unless all the players will have the chanche to play the same number of times.
I'll explain: let's pretend me and Wendax today spend few hours in this game... sooner or later he'll win. For example after 30 numbers.
If someone else, for example Arunas, has got less time but equal chance to win, I'm going to give him the opportunity to keep playing untill he reaches the 30 attempts and see if he reaches (or passes) the winner.
Is it fair for you?
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 09:08:49 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:05:54 AM
Wise choise!
Blake Automobile Company from Cambridge, Massachusetts was the company that later evolved into the Cambridge Automobile Company, Cambridge, Massachusetts and there are few info about!
Next number now!
3031
CESAR
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:17:34 AM
I'm going to add an important rule:
I don't want to post a limit and if a member (and myself) has got time to post a number after another I'd like to have him playing...but in this case he well take advantage from this...unless all the players will have the chanche to play the same number of times.
I'll explain: let's pretend me and Wendax today spend few hours in this game... sooner or later he'll win. For example after 30 numbers.
If someone else, for example Arunas, has got less time but equal chance to win, I'm going to give him the opportunity to keep playing untill he reaches the 30 attempts and see if he reaches (or passes) the winner.
Is it fair for you?
It is fine with me. I am enjoying the game much more than the addition of another point to the score.
In for a penny, in for a pound. So: 240
Quote
#3031
CESAR
Let's try with 1906 CESAR from Paris, France.
No pictures, I'm sorry.
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:17:34 AM
I'm going to add an important rule:
I don't want to post a limit and if a member (and myself) has got time to post a number after another I'd like to have him playing...but in this case he well take advantage from this...unless all the players will have the chanche to play the same number of times.
I'll explain: let's pretend me and Wendax today spend few hours in this game... sooner or later he'll win. For example after 30 numbers.
If someone else, for example Arunas, has got less time but equal chance to win, I'm going to give him the opportunity to keep playing untill he reaches the 30 attempts and see if he reaches (or passes) the winner.
Is it fair for you?
It is fine with me. I am enjoying the game much more than the addition of another point to the score.
Alright then, all of you will have the chance to play as much as the winner so you can post a number and see if you are lucky or you can compensate your bad luck with your knowledge!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
Next number: 9588
MAJOCCHI
The Majocchi brothers built a threewheeler called Aquina from 1900 to 1906. I don't have a picture of it.
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 09:24:14 AM
Quote
#3031
CESAR
Let's try with 1906 CESAR from Paris, France.
No pictures, I'm sorry.
By David, Boudene & Compagnie, Paris.
Well done +22 for you!
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:09:16 AM
Next number: 9588
MAJOCCHI
The Majocchi brothers built a threewheeler called Aquina from 1900 to 1906. I don't have a picture of it.
Perfect! A single cylinder 1.5hp...my source calls it Aquila.
+21 for you!
4330
The next one: 2209
Can others join in? You seem to have missed D-Type's bid ten minutes ago! Sorry - it was I who missed something!
I'll bid 9119
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:33:48 AM
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 09:32:42 AM
4330
DECHAUX
Charles Dechaux from France built a sedan in 1947. Very obscure, no more info I have, but is it this one?
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
The next one: 2209
I'm sorry, I was not clear in my rules...your following numbers have to be distant from your previous of 50 unities, otherwise, once you came around a big name, you'll just have to keep getting closer to that name. That's the reason why I keep note of all your guesses. Once there will be no other options, (you 'burn' 101 numbers each guess) I'll reduce that buffer.
EDIT: Forget about it, it's a good number!
Here you are:
2209: BOWDEN (1)
I think 2209 is more than 50 numbers away from 2310. ;)
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Can others join in? You seem to have missed D-Type's bid ten minutes ago! Sorry - it was I who missed something!
I'll bid 9119
9119: Lever
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:43:53 AM
I think 2209 is more than 50 numbers away from 2310. ;)
You are right, I changed my reply.
It's quite confusing but I'm trying to follow up!
2209: BOWDEN (1)
8660
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
8660
KRASTIN
Active Players, numbers & scores:
Allan L:
9119 (0)
Arunas:
2014, 3031, 4330,
8660 (30)
D-Type:
240 (0)
Wendax: 1001,
2209, 2310, 7486, 9588, 13122 - (117)
240 AGR
1001 Attica
2014 Blake (4)
2209 Bowden (1)
2310 Brianza
3031 Cesar
4330 Dechaux
7486 Hol-Tan
8660 Krastin
9119 Lever
9588 Majocchi
13122 RVIA
Joining the fun (hope so :P )!
3258
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Can others join in? You seem to have missed D-Type's bid ten minutes ago! Sorry - it was I who missed something!
I'll bid 9119
9119: Lever
I can only find Lever as an engine maker, whose engines powered some cars made by Elcar in 1930. Kissel made Lever engines in 1933 or so.
Let's try....number 1017
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:47:56 AM
2209: BOWDEN (1)
I'll go for Benjamin George Bowden, designer for Humber and - more important - Healey sports cars. He also is known for his Spacelander bicycle.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
8660
KRASTIN
1906 August Krastin's Krastin Automobile Manufacturing Co. of Cleveland, Ohio?
No pictures again :(
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 09:56:37 AM
Joining the fun (hope so :P )!
3258
CIDORO
Must be a Cidoro standing for Citroen Den Ouden Rotterdam:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17659.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17659.0)
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 09:56:57 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:45:20 AM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 09:36:16 AM
Can others join in? You seem to have missed D-Type's bid ten minutes ago! Sorry - it was I who missed something!
I'll bid 9119
9119: Lever
I can only find Lever as an engine maker, whose engines powered some cars made by Elcar in 1930. Kissel made Lever engines in 1933 or so.
Lever Motors Corporation, Elkhart, Indiana \ A. L. Powell Power Company, Wheaton, Illinois
Correct! It was the Elcar Model 95 and there were 3 other cars on Stude, Kissel and Ruxton chassis.
+24 for you!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
In for a penny, in for a pound. So: 240
AGR
12 hp Hurtu, from 1911-12, rebranded and sold by
Ariel &
General
Repairs Ltd of Camberwell, London SE5 the London agents for Hurtu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:47:56 AM
2209: BOWDEN (1)
I'll go for Benjamin George Bowden, designer for Humber and - more important - Healey sports cars. He also is known for his Spacelander bicycle.
Not him.
You can ask for a clue or leave it.
AUBURN-CUMMINS
[/quote]
Well. I think I've been lucky; In 1935 Clessie Cummins who had taken part in Indianapolis 500 miles with a modified Duesemberg, made a 3774 miles tour in America with his Auburn 1934 powered with a Diesel Model A 6 cyl. engine. I add a picture of this car.
If my answer is correct I would continue with number 2017 :D
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 10:11:57 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 09:56:37 AM
Joining the fun (hope so :P )!
3258
CIDORO
Must be a Cidoro standing for Citroen Den Ouden Rotterdam:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17659.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17659.0)
Correct! +22.
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 10:15:32 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:26:02 AM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
In for a penny, in for a pound. So: 240
AGR
12 hp Hurtu, from 1911-12, rebranded and sold by Ariel & General Repairs Ltd of Camberwell, London SE5 the London agents for Hurtu
Perfect! +21
Quote from: Paul Jaray
1906 August Krastin's Krastin Automobile Manufacturing Co. of Cleveland, Ohio?
Correct! +21
1011
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:47:56 AM
2209: BOWDEN (1)
I'll go for Benjamin George Bowden, designer for Humber and - more important - Healey sports cars. He also is known for his Spacelander bicycle.
Not him.
You can ask for a clue or leave it.
Before asking for clues I'll have another attempt at Bowden(1). Is it H.L.Bowden, a race driver participating at the 1905 Ormond Beach Races with his 120 hp Mercedes?
6798 please!
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 10:23:21 AM
AUBURN-CUMMINS
Well. I think I've been lucky; In 1935 Clessie Cummins who had taken part in Indianapolis 500 miles with a modified Duesemberg, made a 3774 miles tour in America with his Auburn 1934 powered with a Diesel Model A 6 cyl. engine. I add a picture of this car.
If my answer is correct I would continue with number 2017 :D
[/quote]
Correct! +21
2017: BLAKESLEE-BRITTEN
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 10:25:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray
1906 August Krastin's Krastin Automobile Manufacturing Co. of Cleveland, Ohio?
Correct! +21
1011
AUBURN (2)
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
1011
AUBURN (2)
My first guess is:
Auburn Automobile Co.; Auburn, Indiana
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:20:43 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 09:59:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 09:47:56 AM
2209: BOWDEN (1)
I'll go for Benjamin George Bowden, designer for Humber and - more important - Healey sports cars. He also is known for his Spacelander bicycle.
Not him.
You can ask for a clue or leave it.
Before asking for clues I'll have another attempt at Bowden(1). Is it H.L.Bowden, a race driver participating at the 1905 Ormond Beach Races with his 120 hp Mercedes?
Perfect! The Flying Dutchman II!
+21 for you!
Next number: 6355, please!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
948 please
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
I saw that your previous one was a guess and not a request for a clue (I did not see the picture!).
Intereting, I have not that Coachbuilder in my archive, so it's wrong. Unfortunately I don't know if the Isotta-Fraschini pilot is the same that I have...it is a pilot and the only info I have is a small caption in a book!
-3 for the guess, but I gave you a clue if you want to proceed.
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 12:05:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
1011
AUBURN (2)
My first guess is:
Auburn Automobile Co.; Auburn, Indiana
Not that...
How about:
Auburn Motor Chassis Co., Auburn, Indiana?
Not that...
Funny and interesting game!
1990 please.
Now that you left me 2 minutes...here's an update (you will find it on page 1)
Underlined are the current ones for each active player and the crossed ones are the discharged ones.
Players, numbers & scores:
Allan L: 6798 9119 (24)
Arunas: 1011, 2014, 3031, 4330 (45)
D-Type: 240, 948 (21)
faksta: 3258, 4747 (22)
pnegyesi: 666 (-3)
Targhediferro: 1017, 2017 (21)
Wendax: 1001, 2209, 2310, 6355, 7486, 9588, 13122, (135)
240 AGR
666 Andreoli
948 Astresse
1001 Attica
1011 Auburn (2)
1017 Auburn-Cummins
2014 Blake (4)
2017 Blakeslee-Britten
2209 Bowden (1)
2310 Brianza
3031 Cesar
3258 Cidoro
4330 Dechaux
4747 DRB (1)
6355 Geneva (4)
6798 Grove
7486 Hol-Tan
9119 Lever
9588 Majocchi
13122 RVIA
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 10:59:42 AM
Next number: 6355, please!
GENEVA (4)
I have several companies building a Geneva car. Chronologically, the fourth one could be the Geneva, built from 1916 to 1917 by the Schoeneck company from Harvey, Illinois.
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Funny and interesting game!
1990 please.
BLACK BARON
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Next number: 6355, please!
GENEVA (4)
I have several companies building a Geneva car. Chronologically, the fourth one could be the Geneva, built from 1916 to 1917 by the Schoeneck company from Harvey, Illinois.
Not that...
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Next number: 6355, please!
GENEVA (4)
I have several companies building a Geneva car. Chronologically, the fourth one could be the Geneva, built from 1916 to 1917 by the Schoeneck company from Harvey, Illinois.
Not that...
I'll try asking for a clue then. Please tell me the time range.
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:23:33 PM
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Next number: 6355, please!
GENEVA (4)
I have several companies building a Geneva car. Chronologically, the fourth one could be the Geneva, built from 1916 to 1917 by the Schoeneck company from Harvey, Illinois.
Not that...
I'll try asking for a clue then. Please tell me the time range.
1920-1921 ;)
Great! Next number : 777
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:23:33 PM
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GENEVA (4)
I'll try asking for a clue then. Please tell me the time range.
1920-1921 ;)
I thought so. Then it is the Geneva Wagon Company from Geneva, NY, which built an assembled automobile with a six-cylinder Herschell-Spillman engine in that time range.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:06:42 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
I saw that your previous one was a guess and not a request for a clue (I did not see the picture!).
Intereting, I have not that Coachbuilder in my archive, so it's wrong. Unfortunately I don't know if the Isotta-Fraschini pilot is the same that I have...it is a pilot and the only info I have is a small caption in a book!
-3 for the guess, but I gave you a clue if you want to proceed.
I don't know his first name, but he raced with Bianchi and Felice at the 1922 Coppa del Lazio. Is it him?
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
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GENEVA (4)
I'll try asking for a clue then. Please tell me the time range.
1920-1921 ;)
I thought so. Then it is the Geneva Wagon Company from Geneva, NY, which built an assembled automobile with a six-cylinder Herschell-Spillman engine in that time range.
Correct! They built a gasoline wagon around 1899 too, but in this case I filed it as the 4th Geneva.
As you can see my database is just an index of what's in my books and there can be differences between my personal way to file things and others. I hope you enjoy the game!
20 +2!
Arden manufactured from 1912 to 1916 in Balsall Heath, Coventry?
I enjoy the game very much.
Please carry on with number 8385.
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
I saw that your previous one was a guess and not a request for a clue (I did not see the picture!).
Intereting, I have not that Coachbuilder in my archive, so it's wrong. Unfortunately I don't know if the Isotta-Fraschini pilot is the same that I have...it is a pilot and the only info I have is a small caption in a book!
-3 for the guess, but I gave you a clue if you want to proceed.
I don't know his first name, but he raced with Bianchi and Felice at the 1922 Coppa del Lazio. Is it him?
I don't know...as I wrote before some names are pretty known and well documented...others names are very, very obscure. In this case you pick a car probably built by the pilot who is running it in a competition that is not 1922 or near...I just have a caption in a picture...you can decide to keep searching for it asking for clues or leave it and pick a new number. I'll reveal what I have once a name is unsolved.
It's a game of knowledge but also of luck... ;)
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
Arden manufactured from 1912 to 1916 in Balsall Heath, Coventry?
That's not ARDEN (3) in my index... -3.
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
I enjoy the game very much.
Please carry on with number 8385.
8385: KELLFORMS
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Please carry on with number 8385.
8385: KELLFORMS
This should be Kellforms Woodmasters Ltd, builder of the Retoga kit car, a Group C lookalike with a Yamaha R1 or a Ford Zetec engine.
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:39:46 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Please carry on with number 8385.
8385: KELLFORMS
This should be Kellforms Woodmasters Ltd, builder of the Retoga kit car, a Group C lookalike with a Yamaha R1 or a Ford Zetec engine.
Correct! In race form or RT Kit version. 20+2.
# 14103, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:38:58 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
Arden manufactured from 1912 to 1916 in Balsall Heath, Coventry?
That's not ARDEN (3) in my index... -3.
rsrsrs, maybe Arden Performance, Durham, United Kingdom?
Can I try 14750, please?
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 12:51:28 PM
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Arden manufactured from 1912 to 1916 in Balsall Heath, Coventry?
That's not ARDEN (3) in my index... -3.
rsrsrs, maybe Arden Performance, Durham, United Kingdom?
Hmmm...I'm not sure...what do they build? Some background? I have a different place but they may change and I can't file them all...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:50:01 PM
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# 14103, please.
SPOERER
That's the Carl Spoerer's Sons Company from Baltimore, Maryland, building cars from 1908 to 1914.
I think I can't find the correct answer to n. 2017 "Blakeslee-Britten", as I found only something about a Blakeslee-Williams from 1905. So I prefer to give no answer, to lose 10 credits quitting this number and trying with another one: may I have 3017 please?
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:50:01 PM
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# 14103, please.
SPOERER
That's the Carl Spoerer's Sons Company from Baltimore, Maryland, building cars from 1908 to 1914.
I quote myself:
"It's a game of luck and knowldege"
..but if you have a huge amount of both it can be a piece of cake!
Correct of course, and I've listed 28 models!
+48!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:08:01 PM
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948 please
ASTRESSE
The Astresse, powered by a licence-built Grivel engine, was manufactured in 1898 in Levallois-Perret. It was probably the first car made in Levallois-Perret where the Citroen 2CV was later made for many years
;D
Number 12435, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 12:56:47 PM
I think I can't find the correct answer to n. 2017 "Blakeslee-Britten", as I found only something about a Blakeslee-Williams from 1905. So I prefer to give no answer, to lose 10 credits quitting this number and trying with another one: may I have 3017 please?
Blakeslee-Britten Company, Jersey City, New Jersey...incorporated in 1910...they probably never built a car!
Wise choice....here's 3017:
CENTURY (2)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 12:36:56 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
I saw that your previous one was a guess and not a request for a clue (I did not see the picture!).
Intereting, I have not that Coachbuilder in my archive, so it's wrong. Unfortunately I don't know if the Isotta-Fraschini pilot is the same that I have...it is a pilot and the only info I have is a small caption in a book!
-3 for the guess, but I gave you a clue if you want to proceed.
I don't know his first name, but he raced with Bianchi and Felice at the 1922 Coppa del Lazio. Is it him?
I don't know...as I wrote before some names are pretty known and well documented...others names are very, very obscure. In this case you pick a car probably built by the pilot who is running it in a competition that is not 1922 or near...I just have a caption in a picture...you can decide to keep searching for it asking for clues or leave it and pick a new number. I'll reveal what I have once a name is unsolved.
It's a game of knowledge but also of luck... ;)
Uh, pls give me one clue
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948 please
ASTRESSE
The Astresse, powered by a licence-built Grivel engine, was manufactured in 1898 in Levallois-Perret. It was probably the first car made in Levallois-Perret where the Citroen 2CV was later made for many years
Very good!
It was not easy...it's reported in very few sources.
+21
An engine tuning company and repair shop, but I think you´re looking for Jochen Arden, Arden Automobilbau GmbH, Germany. Jaguar, Range Rover performance kits.
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 01:02:38 PM
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Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:29:19 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 10:19:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mHe6FMs46o
(if you don't want to click, I vote for 666)
ANDREOLI
Do you mean the coachbuilder?
I can't give clues unless you ask for them...but they are 4 and in a precise order (when available...)
There was an Andreoli, who was a racing driver for Isotta-Fraschini in 1922. I think you meant him
I saw that your previous one was a guess and not a request for a clue (I did not see the picture!).
Intereting, I have not that Coachbuilder in my archive, so it's wrong. Unfortunately I don't know if the Isotta-Fraschini pilot is the same that I have...it is a pilot and the only info I have is a small caption in a book!
-3 for the guess, but I gave you a clue if you want to proceed.
I don't know his first name, but he raced with Bianchi and Felice at the 1922 Coppa del Lazio. Is it him?
I don't know...as I wrote before some names are pretty known and well documented...others names are very, very obscure. In this case you pick a car probably built by the pilot who is running it in a competition that is not 1922 or near...I just have a caption in a picture...you can decide to keep searching for it asking for clues or leave it and pick a new number. I'll reveal what I have once a name is unsolved.
It's a game of knowledge but also of luck... ;)
Uh, pls give me one clue
OK, the picture shows a race in 1948 circa, so that's the only date I can provide about.
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 01:06:43 PM
An engine tuning company and repair shop, but I think you´re looking for Jochen Arden, Arden Automobilbau GmbH, Germany. Jaguar, Range Rover performance kits.
Not an engine tuning company. They built some models.
Not the German Arden...-6
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ANDREOLI
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Uh, pls give me one clue
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OK, the picture shows a race in 1948 circa, so that's the only date I can provide about.
Pietro Andreoli?
Uhmmm....Century is so a common name that could be linked to many marques; I will start with: Century Engineering & Motor Co Ltd (Cheshire and London- 1899-1907). ::)
Time range please! ;D
Next, please: 888.
My next number: 1172
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ANDREOLI
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Uh, pls give me one clue
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OK, the picture shows a race in 1948 circa, so that's the only date I can provide about.
Pietro Andreoli?
I don't know...as I wrote, some of the names in my index are quite obscure...but not for you to find, they are obscure for me too!
The only way you can find it is if you burn your 2nd clue (and I'm sure you don't need to know the nationality!) and I'll skip the 3rd clue (that I do not know) to give you directly the 4th, that in this case is the source, that is a book. Now, if you want, I can go to the 4th clue and take 2 credits or you can lose 10 but start again with an easier name...
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;D
Number 12435, please.
RATCLIFFE
Clay Ratcliffe built 27 ATVs by the name of Ratcliffe 6x6.
Not that...
Then it could be the British race driver Harry Ratcliffe, quite successful with his Mini Coopers in the 1960s.
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ANDREOLI
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Uh, pls give me one clue
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OK, the picture shows a race in 1948 circa, so that's the only date I can provide about.
Pietro Andreoli?
I don't know...as I wrote, some of the names in my index are quite obscure...but not for you to find, they are obscure for me too!
The only way you can find it is if you burn your 2nd clue (and I'm sure you don't need to know the nationality!) and I'll skip the 3rd clue (that I do not know) to give you directly the 4th, that in this case is the source, that is a book. Now, if you want, I can go to the 4th clue and take 2 credits or you can lose 10 but start again with an easier name...
I opt to lose 10 and start again with Number 13
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 01:19:49 PM
Uhmmm....Century is so a common name that could be linked to many marques; I will start with: Century Engineering & Motor Co Ltd (Cheshire and London- 1899-1907). ::)
Not that...
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 01:24:46 PM
Time range please! ;D
2011 is the date I have for theyr current models. I know that in 2009 the company was active.
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Can I try 14750, please?
TAYLOR (7)
Could I have the time range, please?
Very good...it's a game of luck and knowldege but also a bit of strategy can be helpful: with 1 credit you can probably save 3 (or 10!)
1927-1930
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 01:34:54 PM
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;D
Number 12435, please.
RATCLIFFE
Clay Ratcliffe built 27 ATVs by the name of Ratcliffe 6x6.
Not that...
Then it could be the British race driver Harry Ratcliffe, quite successful with his Mini Coopers in the 1960s.
Not that...
Then I take the time range clue for the Ratcliffe.
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ANDREOLI
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Uh, pls give me one clue
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OK, the picture shows a race in 1948 circa, so that's the only date I can provide about.
Pietro Andreoli?
I don't know...as I wrote, some of the names in my index are quite obscure...but not for you to find, they are obscure for me too!
The only way you can find it is if you burn your 2nd clue (and I'm sure you don't need to know the nationality!) and I'll skip the 3rd clue (that I do not know) to give you directly the 4th, that in this case is the source, that is a book. Now, if you want, I can go to the 4th clue and take 2 credits or you can lose 10 but start again with an easier name...
I opt to lose 10 and start again with Number 13
Perfect, now I can tell you what I have about:
In Curami's book, 'la Sport e i suoi Artigiani', there's a picture of 'Andreoli on Andreoli during the II Coppa Michelin'.
That's all I know and it was virtually impossible if you do not have the book or you do not know that is my source.
In this game you'll find several of these hard nuts.
Now go on with your next number that has to be bigger than 100, smaller than 16500 as a general rule and in your case also above 716 or below 616 (that is 666 + and - 50).
That was really a beast of a number!
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
Then I take the time range clue for the Ratcliffe.
In this case I've got just 1 year, 1932.
Oh God.... I´ll try antoher number : 2121
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 02:20:22 PM
Oh God.... I´ll try antoher number : 2121
Arden Automotive in Didcot took over Speedwell's production and in 2011 built the RCR Superlite in 3 versions plus the RCR40.
2121: BONIOLO
Next: 8888
Boniolo Design from Italy. (Covini) Meta, Soleado, Mamba and more prototypes.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 10:43:32 AM
DRB (1)
Suppose you mean this one? An Australian replica producer.
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
Boniolo Design from Italy. (Covini) Meta, Soleado, Mamba and more prototypes.
Correct...but unfortunately I still have to file many of his designs and there are just 2 of them... +22
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Next: 8888
LANGENTHAL
I don't know much coachbulders, but Carrosserie Langenthal from Switzerland made some cabriolets including this Citroen in the attached picture.
1988 please
thanks!
2500 please!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:17:13 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
Then I take the time range clue for the Ratcliffe.
In this case I've got just 1 year, 1932.
There was a British coachbuilder called Ratcliffe. Is it him?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
Not that...
If you would mean DRB-HICOM, I believe you would have listed them as, well, DRB-HICOM?
So, is it Century Motor Vehicle Co. Syracuse N.Y. 1899-1903?
Then i go with 2009
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 02:32:58 PM
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Next: 8888
LANGENTHAL
I don't know much coachbulders, but Carrosserie Langenthal from Switzerland made some cabriolets including this Citroen in the attached picture.
1988 please
Correct 20+18!
BLACK (2)
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 02:34:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:17:13 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 02:09:31 PM
Then I take the time range clue for the Ratcliffe.
In this case I've got just 1 year, 1932.
There was a British coachbuilder called Ratcliffe. Is it him?
Ratcliffe Bros, London \ Ratcliffe Bros, Frinton-on-Sea, Essex.
They build a Triumph Super Nine in 1932!
+21
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 02:37:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
Not that...
If you would mean DRB-HICOM, I believe you would have listed them as, well, DRB-HICOM?
Unfortunately part of the game is to find the right name despite my way of filing it.
Is it your next guess?
# 15336, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 02:43:38 PM
So, is it Century Motor Vehicle Co. Syracuse N.Y. 1899-1903?
Yes! +26.
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Correct 20+18!
BLACK (2)
Black Manufacturing Co.; Chicago, Illinois ???
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 02:34:49 PM
thanks!
2500 please!
2500: BUC
Cyclecar built by the brothers Bucciali, Courbevoie, France.
Number 2700 please.
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 02:58:34 PM
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Correct 20+18!
BLACK (2)
Black Manufacturing Co.; Chicago, Illinois ???
Very good!
+32
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
Unfortunately part of the game is to find the right name despite my way of filing it.
Is it your next guess?
Yes, with no better one.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:00:36 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 02:57:04 PM
# 15336, please.
UNIT
The Rotary Unit Co Ltd from Wooburn, Bucks. built a friction-driven car called Unit from 1920 to 1923.
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 03:03:18 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:56:49 PM
Unfortunately part of the game is to find the right name despite my way of filing it.
Is it your next guess?
Yes, with no better one.
Not DRB-HICOM, that I do not know...
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:06:26 PM
Not DRB-HICOM, that I do not know...
Afraid I'll have to use the first tip then, so early into the game...
Next: 5432
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Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
Then i go with 2009
BLAIR-FORTH
Clarence R Forth's second abortive automobile manufacturing venture, which was set up in Boston in 1908 but it went nowhere. "Blair-Forth Manufacturing Co"
If this is right, then I'd like to go for 908
May I have 4017?
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Yes! +23
2500+50: next one has to be higher than 2550.
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:06:26 PM
Not DRB-HICOM, that I do not know...
Afraid I'll have to use the first tip then, so early into the game...
You have 4 clues
for each number!
DRB (1): around 1966-1967.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Yes! +23
2500+50: next one has to be higher than 2550.
2551 ;D
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 02:59:43 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
Then i go with 2009
BLAIR-FORTH
Clarence R Forth's second abortive automobile manufacturing venture, which was set up in Boston in 1908 but it went nowhere. "Blair-Forth Manufacturing Co"
If this is right, then I'd like to go for 908
Correct!
As you can see even if the manufacturer produced 0 models, there's always at least 1 record for each maker in my list.
+21
908:ASHTON-EVANS
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Yes! +23
2500+50: next one has to be higher than 2550.
2551 ;D
BUGATTI (2)
# 11792, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Yes! +23
2500+50: next one has to be higher than 2550.
2551 ;D
BUGATTI (2)
Almost! :o I believe that you are referring to the 1998-present day Bugatti (Volkswagen).
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
You have 4 clues for each number!
DRB (1): around 1966-1967.
A DRB by Nicolo delle Rossi and Cesare Bossaglia?
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 03:07:04 PM
California Component Cars - CCC, San Lorenzo, California, United States (1977 - 1984)
Volkswagen based kit cars : Sovran - Sterling.
2550 please!
Yes! +23
2500+50: next one has to be higher than 2550.
2551 ;D
BUGATTI (2)
Almost! :o I believe that you are referring to the 1998-present day Bugatti (Volkswagen).
Not that... :-\
Quote from: faksta on December 30, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
You have 4 clues for each number!
DRB (1): around 1966-1967.
A DRB by Nicolo delle Rossi and Cesare Bossaglia?
Bravo! That's it! +22
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
Please may I try
15979
15979: WEBER GAS & ENGINE
Well the Phoenix tractor was bought out and marketed by Weber Gas & Engine Co., Kansas City, Mo. as the Weber tractor.
Can this be what you have?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:22:05 PM
Mc INTOSH (2)
A Canadian McIntosh-Vick Auto Co. by Robert McIntosh and Charles C. Vick?
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:09:05 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 04:05:54 PM
# 11792, please.
PETER SCOTT DIAMOND
I want to score a -10 and have my next try for number 16000
Peter Scott Diamond Ltd took over the Sports from AF (Auto Forge Automobiles of Coventry)
16000: WEISS
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:07:29 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:03:02 PM
Please may I try
15979
15979: WEBER GAS & ENGINE
Well the Phoenix tractor was bought out and marketed by Weber Gas & Engine Co., Kansas City, Mo. as the Weber tractor.
Can this be what you have?
Very good! +21
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
16000: WEISS
The Maschinenfabrik Otto Weiss & Co from Berlin built a friction-driven Maurer-Union copy with French Herald engines from 1902 to 1905 under the name of Weiss-Herald.
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:29:40 PM
16000: WEISS
The Maschinenfabrik Otto Weiss & Co from Berlin built a friction-driven Maurer-Union copy with French Herald engines from 1902 to 1905 under the name of Weiss-Herald.
That's it! +24.
I hope your 4017 is Frank G. Curtis who raced in forties and fifties, mostly on Allards, and realized some his own cars such as the Allard Cadillac Curtis and other fiberglass sports.
Strangely addictive isn't it?
I was going to stop for a bit, but I'll just have 8521 first, please
Number 11041, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 04:38:51 PM
I hope your 4017 is Frank G. Curtis who raced in forties and fifties, mostly on Allards, and realized some his own cars such as the Allard Cadillac Curtis and other fiberglass sports.
Not that...
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Strangely addictive isn't it?
I was going to stop for a bit, but I'll just have 8521 first, please
KIRK MANUFACTURING COMPANY
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Strangely addictive isn't it?
I was going to stop for a bit, but I'll just have 8521 first, please
KIRK MANUFACTURING COMPANY
The Kirk Manufacturing Co. of Toledo, Ohio made the Yale motorcar and I think this is their 1903 model:
# 4567, please.
Is it the Curtis Motor Car co. from Little Rock, Arkansas, that in 1921 realized a car with parts coming from different cars and an Herschell-Spillman engine?
Can I have 3442 please
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:39:29 PM
Strangely addictive isn't it?
I was going to stop for a bit, but I'll just have 8521 first, please
KIRK MANUFACTURING COMPANY
The Kirk Manufacturing Co. of Toledo, Ohio made the Yale motorcar and I think this is their 1903 model:
You are too good!
According to my source they were active in 1899 but production was not proven that year.
+21
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 04:56:30 PM
Is it the Curtis Motor Car co. from Little Rock, Arkansas, that in 1921 realized a car with parts coming from different cars and an Herschell-Spillman engine?
Not that...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
The Kirk Manufacturing Co. of Toledo, Ohio made the Yale motorcar and I think this is their 1903 model:
You are too good!
According to my source they were active in 1899 but production was not proven that year.
+21
Not that good, just lucky!
191 please
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
The Kirk Manufacturing Co. of Toledo, Ohio made the Yale motorcar and I think this is their 1903 model:
You are too good!
According to my source they were active in 1899 but production was not proven that year.
+21
Not that good, just lucky!
191 please
191: AERIAL
# 5831, please.
Clue number #1 please ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Can I have 3442 please
CM MOCHET
This looks ambiguous. It could be:
(1) The CM cyclecar produced by Charles Mochet, Saint-Ouen, Seine from 1929-1930, or
(2) The Mochet minicar produced by Charles Mochet, Pateaux, Seine from 1951 to 1958
I'll plump for (2) and go for the 1957 175cc model
Ok, I quit this Curtis....may I have 5017?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:16:27 PM
# 5831, please.
FITZSIMMONDS
F.A. Fitzsimmonds, coachbuilder from Lindsay, Ontario, Canada, mainly known for their ambulances and funeral cars on McLaughlin chassis.
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 05:21:44 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
Can I have 3442 please
CM MOCHET
This looks ambiguous. It could be:
(1) The CM cyclecar produced by Charles Mochet, Saint-Ouen, Seine from 1929-1930, or
(2) The Mochet minicar produced by Charles Mochet, Pateaux, Seine from 1951 to 1958
I'll plump for (2) and go for the 1957 175cc model
you are right, it is ambiguous. I use to collect together also different brands under a single name to have at once the info, but just in rare cases and they are easily recognizeable. In this case I meant both.
+37!
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 05:22:02 PM
Ok, I quit this Curtis....may I have 5017?
Curtis Automobile Mfrs Ltd, London!
You can always use 1 credit and ask for some clues ;)
5017: ECOSSE (2)
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:26:23 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:16:27 PM
# 5831, please.
FITZSIMMONDS
F.A. Fitzsimmonds, coachbuilder from Lindsay, Ontario, Canada, mainly known for their ambulances and funeral cars on McLaughlin chassis.
That's it! +21
Number 10469, please.
Seraph Cars Ltd. The Seraph kitcar was the latest incarnation of the Bonito, a very loose GT40 style design based on VW Beetle mechanicals.
Number #15.500 please!
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 05:41:22 PM
Seraph Cars Ltd. The Seraph kitcar was the latest incarnation of the Bonito, a very loose GT40 style design based on VW Beetle mechanicals.
Number #15.500 please!
Right! +26
VARLEY-WOODS
From the next guess on, I'll consider my updated list. Nothing will change in this game. Some numbers will be shifted but I'll take care of that...you won't noticed it.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:33:26 PM
Number 10469, please.
MODUS
The Modus Developments Company from Norfolk was a building company that formed a racing team in 1973. Their best known car was the Modus M1.
Ok.
Varley-Woods was a British automobile brand that was produced 1918-1921 by HS Motors in London.
Number #2070 please!
I'm going to give up on 14750 - Taylor (7).
Can I try 14999 instead?
Ecurie Ecosse is a racing team founded in 1952 in Edimburgh by David Murray and Wilkie Wilkinson.
My next number: 3781 please
Last series of reply for today:
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:33:26 PM
Number 10469, please.
MODUS
I only found that there was a British car brand called Modus. No more information.
To keep going we have to estabilish that it's the same maker....that is not enough. :-\
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 05:49:58 PM
Ok.
Varley-Woods was a British automobile brand that was produced 1918-1921 by HS Motors in London.
Number #2070 please!
+24
2070: BN BIANCO & NEGRO
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
I'm going to give up on 14750 - Taylor (7).
Can I try 14999 instead?
H. Taylor & Co. from Kensington, London, later Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey was a British coachbuilder.
14999: TOM MEADE
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 06:05:06 PM
Ecurie Ecosse is a racing team founded in 1952 in Edimburgh by David Murray and Wilkie Wilkinson.
Not that...
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Wendax on December 30, 2013, 05:33:26 PM
Number 10469, please.
MODUS
The Modus Developments Company from Norfolk was a building company that formed a racing team in 1973. Their best known car was the Modus M1.
That's it!
+27
Actually I could be luckier...anyway, Ecosse Motor Car Ltd built from 1985 a sort of AC replica.
# 3203, please.
BN,
Bianchi?-Negro, Torino, Italia (1924 - 1925)
Something is wrong here...
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
My Bugatti guess....
908 ASHTON-EVANS
948 Astresse
1001 Attica
1011 Auburn (2)
1017 Auburn-Cummins
Number #1300 please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
My next number: 3781 please
COSTIN
In 1971-72, Frank Costin, better known for his body designs for Lotus, Vanwall, Maserati, Marcos, Nathan, Protos, etc started his own company Costin Automative Products Ltd, Little Staughton, Bedfordshire to produce the Costin Amigo, a 2-seater coupé which had a plywood chassis and an aerodynamic fibreglass body and Vauxhall mechanicals.
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
I'm going to give up on 14750 - Taylor (7).
Can I try 14999 instead?
14999: TOM MEADE
That would be Tom Meade, American freelance designer from California who moved to Italy in the 1960s, and produced beautiful and highly-regarded modified Ferrari-based designs. There were several designs called Thomassima, and Ferrari spyders called Nembo, made by Neri and Bonacini in Modena, the name being formed from
Neri
Meade and
Bonacini. One shown below. He died in 2013.
Quote
908:ASHTON-EVANS
The Ashton-Evans was an English car manufactured in Birmingham from 1919 to 1928 by an engineering company who also made railway locomotives and aircraft parts. The cars were designed by E Bailey who had been with Sunbeam. About 250 cars were made.
My next one would be 10371
Quote from: targhediferro on December 30, 2013, 06:27:59 PM
Actually I could be luckier...anyway, Ecosse Motor Car Ltd built from 1985 a sort of AC replica.
Yes, in this game there's a big chanche to get lucky...but I have a different Company name for this...it can be the same, can you tell me more?
Quote from: João on December 30, 2013, 06:38:41 PM
BN, Bianchi?-Negro, Torino, Italia (1924 - 1925)
Something is wrong here... QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
My Bugatti guess....
908 ASHTON-EVANS
948 Astresse
1001 Attica
1011 Auburn (2)
1017 Auburn-Cummins
Number #1300 please.
Some sources call it Bianco-Negro (an Italian Encyclopedia), others Bianchi-Negro (Beaulieu)...but it's right. +22
About those numbers:
908 ASHTON-EVANS : pnegyesi
948 Astresse: D-Type
1001 Attica: Wendax
1011 Auburn (2): Arunas
1017 Auburn-Cummins: Targhediferro
As you can see the same player didn't broke the rule. The same player can't post consequent numbers but...
1300: AVT
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: D-type on December 30, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
My next number: 3781 please
COSTIN
In 1971-72, Frank Costin, better known for his body designs for Lotus, Vanwall, Maserati, Marcos, Nathan, Protos, etc started his own company Costin Automative Products Ltd, Little Staughton, Bedfordshire to produce the Costin Amigo, a 2-seater coupé which had a plywood chassis and an aerodynamic fibreglass body and Vauxhall mechanicals.
Yes! +25
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
I'm going to give up on 14750 - Taylor (7).
Can I try 14999 instead?
14999: TOM MEADE
That would be Tom Meade, American freelance designer from California who moved to Italy in the 1960s, and produced beautiful and highly-regarded modified Ferrari-based designs. There were several designs called Thomassima, and Ferrari spyders called Nembo, made by Neri and Bonacini in Modena, the name being formed from Neri Meade and Bonacini. One shown below. He died in 2013.
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on December 30, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
I'm going to give up on 14750 - Taylor (7).
Can I try 14999 instead?
14999: TOM MEADE
That would be Tom Meade, American freelance designer from California who moved to Italy in the 1960s, and produced beautiful and highly-regarded modified Ferrari-based designs. There were several designs called Thomassima, and Ferrari spyders called Nembo, made by Neri and Bonacini in Modena, the name being formed from Neri Meade and Bonacini. One shown below. He died in 2013.
Yes! +24
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 30, 2013, 11:59:30 PM
Quote
908:ASHTON-EVANS
The Ashton-Evans was an English car manufactured in Birmingham from 1919 to 1928 by an engineering company who also made railway locomotives and aircraft parts. The cars were designed by E Bailey who had been with Sunbeam. About 250 cars were made.
My next one would be 10371
Yes! +23
MINERVA IMPERIA
Perhaps you have AC Ecosse Ltd (another source gives this definition); than I found that this firm bought the rights to build this car from a certain ME (Mid Engined) Ltd that built an AC 3000 based car.
#500, please.
Quote
My next one would be 10371
Yes! +23
MINERVA IMPERIA
[/quote]
Minerva, a Belgian automobile manufacturer which was badly beaten by the 1929 Depression was reorganised in 1934, but the following year the new company became part of Mathie van Roggen's Impreia-Excelsior group. A handful of Minerva AP's continued to be made at Antwerp, as were commercial vehicles, but the rest of the prewar Minerva-Imperias were no more than FWD Imperia TA9s. They were sold as Minervas on the French and British markets..
(Based on a text in the Beaulieu Encyclopedia)
Next would be 8888
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Not that good, just lucky!
191 please
191: AERIAL
My luck using my cars' registration numbers seems a bit variable and in this case I have found nothing - unless you include radio aerials fitted to cars.
I don't think that buying a clue will help, so I'll take the hit and give up again!
Quote from: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 05:22:10 AM
Perhaps you have AC Ecosse Ltd (another source gives this definition); than I found that this firm bought the rights to build this car from a certain ME (Mid Engined) Ltd that built an AC 3000 based car.
OK, I was looking for the Signature, the Fiat-based model they took from AC...but I'm pretty sure it's the same company and that's a game...you can shoot a new number.
+21
Thank you...I will leave for a while the seventeen serie....may I have 2550?
Ok... AVT : Britain's electric kit car, AVT-I00E?
Number #1500 please.
Can I try #6000 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 31, 2013, 05:20:28 AM
That's it, it produced a Gasoline car.
+21
Cheers!
Followig everybody's trend to round things up, let's try 12000.
Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
1,234 please?
I'll also join this crazy puzzle, let's try 1953.
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 31, 2013, 05:25:46 AM
Quote
My next one would be 10371
Yes! +23
MINERVA IMPERIA
Minerva, a Belgian automobile manufacturer which was badly beaten by the 1929 Depression was reorganised in 1934, but the following year the new company became part of Mathie van Roggen's Impreia-Excelsior group. A handful of Minerva AP's continued to be made at Antwerp, as were commercial vehicles, but the rest of the prewar Minerva-Imperias were no more than FWD Imperia TA9s. They were sold as Minervas on the French and British markets..
(Based on a text in the Beaulieu Encyclopedia)
Next would be 8888
[/quote]
Yes!
Yours 30 + new 24: 54
8888 has been taken already ;)
Quote from: Allan L on December 31, 2013, 05:29:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Allan L on December 30, 2013, 05:08:20 PM
Not that good, just lucky!
191 please
191: AERIAL
My luck using my cars' registration numbers seems a bit variable and in this case I have found nothing - unless you include radio aerials fitted to cars.
I don't think that buying a clue will help, so I'll take the hit and give up again!
Aerial Manufacturing and Supplies Company, incorporated in New York in 1910, production is doubted.
56-10: 46
Next number?
Quote from: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Thank you...I will leave for a while the seventeen serie....may I have 2550?
BUGATTI (1)
Quote from: João on December 31, 2013, 06:10:31 AM
Ok... AVT : Britain's electric kit car, AVT-I00E?
Number #1500 please.
Yes!
your score 171+21: 192
next maker: 1500:BARBIER (2)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 05:49:26 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 31, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
#500, please.
Happy new Year!
AMERICAN (1)
Happy New Year to you, too.
I couldn't have chosen a more ambiguos name, couldn't I?
I hope it is the earliest one, which would make it the American Carriage Motor Company from New York City, building a two-stroke four-cylinder engined car in 1896.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 05:56:32 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Thank you...I will leave for a while the seventeen serie....may I have 2550?
BUGATTI (1)
Is it perhaps that obscure marque of not so loved cars, founded in Molsheim by a certain Ettore Bugatti in 1909? I'm crossing my fingers...
Quote from: faksta on December 31, 2013, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 31, 2013, 05:20:28 AM
That's it, it produced a Gasoline car.
+21
Cheers!
Followig everybody's trend to round things up, let's try 12000.
PLUTO
Quote from: pguillem on December 31, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
BENNET (2)
Then 10369
Be back soon!
Quote from: ropat53 on December 31, 2013, 01:55:53 PM
I'll also join this crazy puzzle, let's try 1953.
1953: BIOTA
Your score: 0
Quote from: Arunas on January 01, 2014, 04:25:24 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
Next: 5432
EVERGLADE
No idea, I want to skip it an try #3064.
Everglade Automobile Company, St Petersburg, Florida was going to produce a 4wd car in 1907.
Your score: 162-10: 152
3064: too close to your 3031 guess.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 06:00:10 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 05:49:26 AM
Quote from: Wendax on December 31, 2013, 05:22:48 AM
#500, please.
Happy new Year!
AMERICAN (1)
Happy New Year to you, too.
I couldn't have chosen a more ambiguos name, couldn't I?
I hope it is the earliest one, which would make it the American Carriage Motor Company from New York City, building a two-stroke four-cylinder engined car in 1896.
Precisely!
414+21: 435
11327, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 06:01:32 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 05:56:32 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 05:46:02 AM
Thank you...I will leave for a while the seventeen serie....may I have 2550?
BUGATTI (1)
Is it perhaps that obscure marque of not so loved cars, founded in Molsheim by a certain Ettore Bugatti in 1909? I'm crossing my fingers...
If this game was linked to a fixed list you could be sure of that, but I told you: this is a moving index and numbers may shift.
For example if I add a 'Babbion' your assumption would be wrong....
...but it's not! ;D
Your new score: 36+204: 240
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:00:42 AM
11327, please.
ORION (3)
I have found three Orion car brands, not counting the German bus and truck manufacturer. So, hopefully it is the 1914 British cyclecar called Orion of which the factory location is unknown.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:25:47 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:00:42 AM
11327, please.
ORION (3)
I have found three Orion car brands, not counting the German bus and truck manufacturer. So, hopefully it is the 1914 British cyclecar called Orion of which the factory location is unknown.
8.9hp! Correct again.
Your score: 435+21: 456
Number 5951, please.
Great!
1,244, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:35:30 AM
Number 5951, please.
FORREST (2)
Mike Forrest's Citycar: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5084
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
Great!
1,244, please
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184).
Probably the word 'between' is misleading here...I mean 'has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities'. Fixed.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:43:58 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:37:05 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 08:35:30 AM
Number 5951, please.
FORREST (2)
Mike Forrest's Citycar: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=5084
I was ready with the time range!
...but you found it!
456+21: 477
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
Great!
1,244, please
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184).
Probably the word 'between' is misleading here...I mean 'has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities'. Fixed.
Ugg - I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote', above.
1,290 please.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:53:33 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:45:03 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
Great!
1,244, please
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184).
Probably the word 'between' is misleading here...I mean 'has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities'. Fixed.
Ugg - I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote', above.
1,290 please.
AVION
Your score:22
I would try with 8875, thank you.
Number 12003, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:04:26 AM
Number 12003, please.
PLYMOUTH (1)
A near miss. 8)
The 1910 Plymouth touring car made by the Plymouth Motor Truck Company of Plymouth, Ohio.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:10:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:06:29 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:04:26 AM
Number 12003, please.
PLYMOUTH (1)
A near miss. 8)
The 1910 Plymouth touring car made by the Plymouth Motor Truck Company of Plymouth, Ohio.
Indeed... +21
477+21: 498
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 07:55:21 AM
Quote from: Arunas on January 01, 2014, 04:25:24 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 30, 2013, 03:55:41 PM
Quote from: Arunas on December 30, 2013, 03:20:21 PM
Next: 5432
EVERGLADE
No idea, I want to skip it an try #3064.
Everglade Automobile Company, St Petersburg, Florida was going to produce a 4wd car in 1907.
Your score: 162-10: 152
3064: too close to your 3031 guess.
#7654
15764, please.
Quote from: Arunas on January 01, 2014, 09:23:10 AM
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Next: 5432
EVERGLADE
No idea, I want to skip it an try #3064.
Everglade Automobile Company, St Petersburg, Florida was going to produce a 4wd car in 1907.
Your score: 162-10: 152
3064: too close to your 3031 guess.
#7654
HUMBERSTONE
your score: 152
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:27:59 AM
15764, please.
VORAN
That is the German FWD pioneer: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=15089
Number 12755, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
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Number 12755, please.
RIDLEY (2)
Hopefully this is the 1909 project of Dr. F.M.Ridley Jr. from La Grange, Georgia, to build a double steering car.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
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Number 12755, please.
RIDLEY (2)
Hopefully this is the 1909 project of Dr. F.M.Ridley Jr. from La Grange, Georgia, to build a double steering car.
In this case you are victim of my not linear way to file some makers...not that!
517
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 07:50:37 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on December 31, 2013, 01:55:53 PM
I'll also join this crazy puzzle, let's try 1953.
1953: BIOTA
Your score: 0
The name Biota stands for "Bi" to indicate its two-seater design and "iota" for small, to refer to its minimal size and weight. The first prototype car was built in the UK by John Houghton in 1968 and consisted of a tubular steel spaceframe with an aluminium body. The GRP-bodied production model accepted all Mini mechanics and Series-A engines, from basic 850 up to 1275 Cooper S specs and tuning stages beyond
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I'll also join this crazy puzzle, let's try 1953.
1953: BIOTA
Your score: 0
The name Biota stands for "Bi" to indicate its two-seater design and "iota" for small, to refer to its minimal size and weight. The first prototype car was built in the UK by John Houghton in 1968 and consisted of a tubular steel spaceframe with an aluminium body. The GRP-bodied production model accepted all Mini mechanics and Series-A engines, from basic 850 up to 1275 Cooper S specs and tuning stages beyond
That's it!
Your Score: 27
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
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Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 10:02:30 AM
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Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Not that...
(51)
10818 Please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:53:29 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
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Number 12755, please.
RIDLEY (2)
Hopefully this is the 1909 project of Dr. F.M.Ridley Jr. from La Grange, Georgia, to build a double steering car.
In this case you are victim of my not linear way to file some makers...not that!
517
Next try is the 1914 Ridley light car , built by the Thorofare Motors Ltd from Woodbridge, Suffolk.
I want to quit Landshaft that for me is just the German for Landscape. My next chose is 7017 thank you.
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Number 12755, please.
RIDLEY (2)
Hopefully this is the 1909 project of Dr. F.M.Ridley Jr. from La Grange, Georgia, to build a double steering car.
In this case you are victim of my not linear way to file some makers...not that!
517
Next try is the 1914 Ridley light car , built by the Thorofare Motors Ltd from Woodbridge, Suffolk.
That's it!
538
Number 16389, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
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Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Not that...
(51)
Okay, is this the Protos which existed between 1909-1926?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
I want to quit Landshaft that for me is just the German for Landscape. My next chose is 7017 thank you.
W. Landshaft & Son incorporated in Chicago, Illinois in 1909.
7017: HANSEN (3)
(230)
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 10:45:57 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Not that...
(51)
Okay, is this the Protos which existed between 1909-1926?
Not that...
(48)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
Number 16389, please
WOONSOCKET
The Woonsocket Napping Machinery Company from Woonsocket, RI, had their try at manufacturing automobiles in 1907/1908, without much success.
Number 8600, please.
PS. Another prototype was sighted in 1967: :lmao:
HANSEN: Do you mean Mel Hansen, a driver in Midget races?
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
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Number 16389, please
WOONSOCKET
The Woonsocket Napping Machinery Company from Woonsocket, RI, had their try at manufacturing automobiles in 1907/1908, without much success.
Number 8600, please.
PS. Another prototype was sighted in 1967: :lmao:
:hah: That's it!
538+21: 559
KOCH (1)
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
HANSEN: Do you mean Mel Hansen, a driver in Midget races?
Not him...
227
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 11:16:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 11:03:45 AM
Number 8600, please.
KOCH (1)
That should be Koch Frères from Paris, building a car following Saurer designs from 1899 to 1901.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 11:24:00 AM
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HANSEN: Do you mean Mel Hansen, a driver in Midget races?
Not him...
227
Jerry Hansen, a driver with Lola?
I list pilots only if they 'build' a car or if it's the only way to 'identify' a car.
Not that... 224
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Not that...
(51)
Okay, is this the Protos which existed between 1909-1926?
Not that...
(48)
Apparently there was another Protos, a Formula 2 racecar in 1967.
If my answer is correct, then I go for 941.
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 10:50:13 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 10:45:57 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 10:02:30 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 06:07:07 AM
Then 10369
10369 is too close to your 10371 previous number.
Then let's go for 12222
PROTOS (2)
Your score: 54
Hopefully the first Protos is the one which is the known German brand from 1909-1926 and I assume the 2nd Protos is the one which existed between 1926-1933 when Siemens sold Protos to AEG and the Protos C1 was continued as the NAG-Protos
Not that...
(51)
Okay, is this the Protos which existed between 1909-1926?
Not that...
(48)
Apparently there was another Protos, a Formula 2 racecar in 1967.
If my answer is correct, then I go for 941.
Ron Harris Team's car, designed by Costin...quite a nice car.
Your score: 69
941: Too close to your 908 (ASHTON-EVANS) previous number.
Too many rules :)
Can I go for 2048?
Number 12600, please.
I just have another Hansen, the Hansen Automobile Co. Cleveland Ohio, 1902. Right or wrong I'd like to pass to 8017, thank you.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
HUMBERSTONE
your score: 152
Chris Humberstone was a designer a man behind such cars like Cartel Tiger, Owen Sedanca, Rapport Forte, Scorpion Sovereign. He also did some private designs like the Midgi under his own name "Chris Humberstone Design".
6969, please
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 11:48:52 AM
Too many rules :)
Can I go for 2048?
That's why I'm here.
I use to estabilish a rule only to avoid a stall in the game.
If you want to discover a juicy maker, let's say Tucker (that is not, of course), you can just try a number near the end (16500) and then skip each one you do not like collecting -10 untill you'll reach it and the game is over.
Whit this rule if you hit the maker by luck, you collect what you 'earn', if you go near it (Joao?) you can help others BUT I'm updating the list and you can't always be sure of that...that's the only way I found to keep it going and it's the only rule.
The credits system is there just to keep it interesting...I thought you may be interested in each number even if you do not know it and with just 1 credit you have the chance to know what I found about...
To help you with your choices you can look at my post #2, where I keep taking note of each guess and each maker.
You can see that you already asked for #2009 (Blair-Forth) and 2048 is too close. ;)
How about 5941?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:13:54 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 01, 2014, 12:12:32 PM
How about 5941?
:thumbsup:
FORGEOT-TRAYSSAC
A Ford Model T based car from France, Levallois-Perret, made in 1924
14046 please
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 12:00:28 PM
I just have another Hansen, the Hansen Automobile Co. Cleveland Ohio, 1902. Right or wrong I'd like to pass to 8017, thank you.
Ray Hansen from Tacoma, Washington and his Mercury Special from 1955.
Your score: 211
8017: JAMES (3)
(remember a pass is -10, 4 hints are -4 ;) )
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HUMBERSTONE
your score: 152
Chris Humberstone was a designer a man behind such cars like Cartel Tiger, Owen Sedanca, Rapport Forte, Scorpion Sovereign. He also did some private designs like the Midgi under his own name "Chris Humberstone Design".
6969, please
That's it...152+22: 174
6969: HAMLIN (3)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
Number 12600, please.
RENFERT
Josef Renfert from Beckum, Germany, built a 3/12 PS cyclecar in 1924/1925 without success.
Number 8867, please
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
Number 12600, please.
RENFERT
Josef Renfert from Beckum, Germany, built a 3/12 PS cyclecar in 1924/1925 without success.
Number 8867, please
+21
8867: LANDA
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
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How about 5941?
:thumbsup:
FORGEOT-TRAYSSAC
A Ford Model T based car from France, Levallois-Perret, made in 1924
14046 please
A Sedanca De Ville. +21
SPECIALTY CARS
HQ: 17211 Roseton Avenue, Artesia, CA 90701
This was a street rod manufacturing company in the early 1990s.
How about 3111?
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8867: LANDA
Juan Landaluce from Madrid started building a unique two-stroke engined car of his own design in 1916, but turned to large conventional six-cylinder cars in 1922 and continued building them until 1927.
Number 15852, please.
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How about 5941?
:thumbsup:
FORGEOT-TRAYSSAC
A Ford Model T based car from France, Levallois-Perret, made in 1924
14046 please
A Sedanca De Ville. +21
SPECIALTY CARS
HQ: 17211 Roseton Avenue, Artesia, CA 90701
This was a street rod manufacturing company in the early 1990s.
How about 3111?
Yes! +33
3111: CHARADE
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 12:35:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
8867: LANDA
Juan Landaluce from Madrid started building a unique two-stroke engined car of his own design in 1916, but turned to large conventional six-cylinder cars in 1922 and continued building them until 1927.
Number 15852, please.
Yes! +24
15852: WALLACE AUTOMOBILE
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
15852: WALLACE AUTOMOBILE
Should be the Wallace Automobile Company of New York City, planning to build cars in 1912, but unknown whether they ever succeeded.
Too many James...I hope it doesn't look a not correct way of playing, but the game is the game...so I quit and I go for 5938.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:21:13 PM
6969: HAMLIN (3)
1919-1920 Hamlin Motor Co., Chicago / Harvey, Illinois?
If yes, then please 567.
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:38:33 PM
15852: WALLACE AUTOMOBILE
Should be the Wallace Automobile Company of New York City, planning to build cars in 1912, but unknown whether they ever succeeded.
+21
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3111: CHARADE
The Charade Monza was a French sportscar, built by Charade Automobiles between 1989-1991. Thew bodywork, which featured scissor-type doors, was made iN South-East Asia. Kits and complete cars were sold.
Next, 13333 please
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 12:45:20 PM
Too many James...I hope it doesn't look a not correct way of playing, but the game is the game...so I quit and I go for 5938.
Apologizes, I saw that I gave you the same suggestion twice!
Of course it's not wrong, it was just an advice and this is just a game and beside that, with the names it can be indeed quite difficult and your strategy is equally efficient (but risky ;) ).
He was E. L. James from Worcester, Massachusetts who built a 5 1\2 HP car around 1905.
5938:FOREST AUTOMOBILE
Quote from: Arunas on January 01, 2014, 12:45:24 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 12:21:13 PM
6969: HAMLIN (3)
1919-1920 Hamlin Motor Co., Chicago / Harvey, Illinois?
If yes, then please 567.
I have listed under this name just the Front-Drive Sedan, a prototype they built in 1930, but you found the right company.
+21
567:AMERICAN NAPIER
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3111: CHARADE
The Charade Monza was a French sportscar, built by Charade Automobiles between 1989-1991. Thew bodywork, which featured scissor-type doors, was made iN South-East Asia. Kits and complete cars were sold.
Next, 13333 please
Available as Coupe or Convertible and different engines!
+25
13333: SCAD (2)
The Forest Automobile should be related with Forest Motor Co. Boston, Mass. 1905.
As you well know I was searching for something from Detroit more than from Boston, because I think this is the only way to reach Gerd!
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13333: SCAD (2)
Uhhh, this is tricky. Could it be the Savannah College of Art and Design which features automotive design courses?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
567:AMERICAN NAPIER
1904-1909 Napier Motor Car Co. of America from Boston, Massachusetts
765, please
Number 2151, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 01:09:49 PM
The Forest Automobile should be related with Forest Motor Co. Boston, Mass. 1905.
As you well know I was searching for something from Detroit more than from Boston, because I think this is the only way to reach Gerd!
He tried 29 numbers, you 10!
Your 2 games can be compared only after the same number of attempts.
Once someone reaches 1000 he is not automatically the winner.
If he stops there with, let's say, 1000 points after 50 numbers, he will be the winner ONLY if, in the meantime, ALL the other active players (that will keep on playing) will not reach 1000 (or more) with less attempts! ;)
...and you can always hit a top maker out of luck! Remember that my index is not the bible and they are the top makers in my archive, not in the real world...just for example I use to list some makers by chassis, one by one and others just briefly...
(I know it's odd, but it's the only way to have a fair game...)
About your guess, it's not that Forest... :-\
Fabrizio, if you want to reach the 1000 with less attempts than me, have a close look at the listing. There are some very hot numbers I can't try anymore. ;)
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13333: SCAD (2)
Uhhh, this is tricky. Could it be the Savannah College of Art and Design which features automotive design courses?
It is tricky, but not for the reason you may think, I'm afraid...
Not Savannah.
Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Quote from: Arunas on January 01, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
567:AMERICAN NAPIER
1904-1909 Napier Motor Car Co. of America from Boston, Massachusetts
765, please
+37!
765:ARC (2)
Quote from: João on January 01, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Not that...
Quote from: Wendax on January 01, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
Fabrizio, if you want to reach the 1000 with less attempts than me, have a close look at the listing. There are some very hot numbers I can't try anymore. ;)
I was wondering why nobody make that connection...it's quite sporty of you. ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 06:03:55 AM
Quote from: pguillem on December 31, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
BENNET (2)
Nothing to do with France, I'm afraid, and nothing to do with the Gordon Bennett race. Please let's try another number (and score a -10) : 1943 ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 10:34:20 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on January 01, 2014, 10:07:27 AM
10818 Please
MW
(27)
MW Motorsport (formerly known as Matthew White Racing) is a V8 Supercar team that is competing in the second-tier Australian V8 Supercar series, the Dunlop V8 Supercar Series.
8081 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 01:36:48 PM
2151:BOROUGH & BLOOD
This marketing highlight of a name belonged to the Borough & Blood Buggy Company of Marshall, Michigan, producing a high-wheeler in 1908.
Number 6666, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: João on January 01, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Not that...
Paul Barbier, Peugeot 203 Barquette?
I hate quitting, but I don't have other Forrest Automobile; meanwhile I just want to have fun, so I will not follow any strategy...may I have 9017 please?
Quote from: pguillem on January 01, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 06:03:55 AM
Quote from: pguillem on December 31, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
BENNET (2)
Nothing to do with France, I'm afraid, and nothing to do with the Gordon Bennett race. Please let's try another number (and score a -10) : 1943 ?
Bennet Automotive from Hayward, California, builder of the Cobra replica of the 70s.
1943: BIMEL
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10818 Please
MW
(27)
MW Motorsport (formerly known as Matthew White Racing) is a V8 Supercar team that is competing in the second-tier Australian V8 Supercar series, the Dunlop V8 Supercar Series.
8081 please
Not that...
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 01:43:56 PM
I hate quitting, but I don't have other Forrest Automobile; meanwhile I just want to have fun, so I will not follow any strategy...may I have 9017 please?
I have to say that since now you have not been lucky...you pick some hard nuts and I'm glad you have fun the way you like it!
I have to quit too for a while now but felt like saying that before. ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 01:44:56 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 01, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 06:03:55 AM
Quote from: pguillem on December 31, 2013, 12:50:13 PM
Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
BENNET (2)
Nothing to do with France, I'm afraid, and nothing to do with the Gordon Bennett race. Please let's try another number (and score a -10) : 1943 ?
Bennet Automotive from Hayward, California, builder of the Cobra replica of the 70s.
1943: BIMEL
The Bimel Automobile Co. in Sydney, Ohio ? I didn't know that it was related to the C.D. Beck Co. manufacturer of buses through Anderson Body Company. If I'm right, I'll choose 2001 for another Space Odyssey
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 06:01:17 AM
Quote from: D-type on December 31, 2013, 08:08:24 AM
Can I try #6000 please
FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 01, 2014, 08:58:34 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:53:33 AM
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Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 01, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
Great!
1,244, please
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184).
Probably the word 'between' is misleading here...I mean 'has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities'. Fixed.
Ugg - I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote', above.
1,290 please.
AVION
Your score:22
Back in 1984, Craig Henderson and Bill Green built a one-of-a-kind super fuel-efficient car called the Avion. In 1986, it set the Guinness world record for fuel economy by averaging 103.7USmpg (2.27L/100km) while driving from the Mexican to Canadian borders. Unlike most autos from that era, the Avion is still on the road... and breaking its own records. In October 2008, Henderson and Green achieved 113.1mpg (2.08 L/100km) on a 263-mile (423 km) trip in the US Pacific Northwest. Then, this August 29th, they departed from Blaine, Washington (adjacent to the Canadian border) and drove 1,478 miles (2,379 km) to the Mexican border. They used just 12.4 US gallons (46.94 L) of diesel and set a new record of 119.1mpg (1.97L/100km).
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2151:BOROUGH & BLOOD
This marketing highlight of a name belonged to the Borough & Blood Buggy Company of Marshall, Michigan, producing a high-wheeler in 1908.
Number 6666, please.
+21
6666:GRAND RIDGE
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Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Not that...
Paul Barbier, Peugeot 203 Barquette?
Yes! +21
I assume you still want 2250:BRADLEY (3)
Quote from: targhediferro on January 01, 2014, 01:43:56 PM
I hate quitting, but I don't have other Forrest Automobile; meanwhile I just want to have fun, so I will not follow any strategy...may I have 9017 please?
Forest Automobile Company, Jersey City, New Jersey, was incorporated in 1901.
9017:LEDA (2)
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Let's join this crazy puzzle with a tribute to France : 1789 = ?
BENNET (2)
Nothing to do with France, I'm afraid, and nothing to do with the Gordon Bennett race. Please let's try another number (and score a -10) : 1943 ?
Bennet Automotive from Hayward, California, builder of the Cobra replica of the 70s.
1943: BIMEL
The Bimel Automobile Co. in Sydney, Ohio ? I didn't know that it was related to the C.D. Beck Co. manufacturer of buses through Anderson Body Company. If I'm right, I'll choose 2001 for another Space Odyssey
Right! +23
2001:BLACKISTON
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Can I try #6000 please
FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Not that...
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Great!
1,244, please
QuoteYour following numbers can't be close to the previous and has to be chosen between 50 more or 50 less.
(example: you try 1234? next ones have to be higher than 1284 or lower than 1184).
Probably the word 'between' is misleading here...I mean 'has to be higher or lower than more of 50 unities'. Fixed.
Ugg - I hit 'modify' instead of 'quote', above.
1,290 please.
AVION
Your score:22
Back in 1984, Craig Henderson and Bill Green built a one-of-a-kind super fuel-efficient car called the Avion. In 1986, it set the Guinness world record for fuel economy by averaging 103.7USmpg (2.27L/100km) while driving from the Mexican to Canadian borders. Unlike most autos from that era, the Avion is still on the road... and breaking its own records. In October 2008, Henderson and Green achieved 113.1mpg (2.08 L/100km) on a 263-mile (423 km) trip in the US Pacific Northwest. Then, this August 29th, they departed from Blaine, Washington (adjacent to the Canadian border) and drove 1,478 miles (2,379 km) to the Mexican border. They used just 12.4 US gallons (46.94 L) of diesel and set a new record of 119.1mpg (1.97L/100km).
Right! +21
Is it the LEDA from France, 1908, built by Thorand, Theim et Cie, Paris.?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:26:58 AM
6666:GRAND RIDGE
Without much hope that it will help, the time range clue, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 03:50:42 AM
Is it the LEDA from France, 1908, built by Thorand, Theim et Cie, Paris.?
Not that...
Do you mean the Leda LT20 built for 1970 season of F5000?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 04:07:31 AM
Do you mean the Leda LT20 built for 1970 season of F5000?
That's it!
+21
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6666:GRAND RIDGE
Without much hope that it will help, the time range clue, please.
Funny how this clue about 6666 led you to 666 credits!
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6666:GRAND RIDGE
Without much hope that it will help, the time range clue, please.
Just 1 year, 1907.
I was just too lazy to read about the marques filed under "Grand". :(
The Grand Ridge Automobile Company of Grand Ridge, IL, planned to build a five-passenger rig in 1907. Never heard of again.
Number 14851, please.
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Funny how this clue about 6666 led you to 666 credits!
The only reason for taking the clue! :lurk:
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Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Not that...
Paul Barbier, Peugeot 203 Barquette?
Yes! +21
I assume you still want 2250:BRADLEY (3)
Yes....and a time range! ;D
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6666:GRAND RIDGE
Without much hope that it will help, the time range clue, please.
Just 1 year, 1907.
I was just too lazy to read about the marques filed under "Grand". :(
The Grand Ridge Automobile Company of Grand Ridge, IL, planned to build a five-passenger rig in 1907. Never heard of again.
Number 14851, please.
A 36\40 HP, right!
+21
14851: THEODORE
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Barbier (2) : Carrosserie Barbier, Cannes, France?
Next number : 2250.
Not that...
Paul Barbier, Peugeot 203 Barquette?
Yes! +21
I assume you still want 2250:BRADLEY (3)
Yes....and a time range! ;D
1992-1996 circa.
Bradley Motor Co., Whalley, Lancashire!
Number 9.400 please
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Bradley Motor Co., Whalley, Lancashire!
Number 9.400 please
Any picture of the S61? I'd like to see some pics from time to time (also to slow you down a little ;D) but it's not mandatory.
9400:LUCCHINI
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14851: THEODORE
Theodore Racing was Teddy Yip's racing team which built some Formula One, Aurora F1 and CART racers between 1977 and 1984.
Number 13630, please
May I have 10370, please?
Lucchini Engineering is an Italian sports car constructor and racing team. Founded by Giorgio Lucchini in Porto Mantovano in 1980.
A picture :
9.470 please!
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14851: THEODORE
Theodore Racing was Teddy Yip's racing team which built some Formula One, Aurora F1 and CART racers between 1977 and 1984.
Number 13630, please
Right!
Unfortunately I still have to list some books about racing cars and there's just 1 model now.
+21
13630: SHAW (5)
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May I have 10370, please?
MINERVA
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:35:25 AM
Lucchini Engineering is an Italian sports car constructor and racing team. Founded by Giorgio Lucchini in Porto Mantovano in 1980.
A picture :
9.470 please!
He was responsable of a FIAT 500 Silhouette Gr5 in late 70s too.
+23
9470:LYON (2)
I´ll pass this one unfortunately...
Number #13.200.
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:48:36 AM
I´ll pass this one unfortunately...
Number #13.200.
George L. Lyon from Durham, North Carolina buit an Highwheeler in 1903 and incorporated the Lyon Motor Car Company in Columbia, South Carolina in 1912
13200:SALISBURY (2)
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13630: SHAW (5)
Time range, please! ;D
1920-1921
13200 : Another city no! Pass.....
13250 please :bag:
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13630: SHAW (5)
Time range, please! ;D
1920-1921
The Walden W. Shaw Livery Company of Chicago, IL, built a four-cylinder and a twelve-cylinder (!) car in 1920/1921. The car became the Ambassador when John Hertz took over.
Number 10101, please.
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13200 : Another city no! Pass.....
13250 please :bag:
Remember, above 13250 or below 13150...
Salisbury (UK) built a 10hp and a 7hp in 1903 according to a single book...no further detail. :-\
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13630: SHAW (5)
Time range, please! ;D
1920-1921
The Walden W. Shaw Livery Company of Chicago, IL, built a four-cylinder and a twelve-cylinder (!) car in 1920/1921. The car became the Ambassador when John Hertz took over.
Number 10101, please.
That's it, +24
10101: MENARD
13257 sounds like a nice one ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:23:24 AM
10101: MENARD
The Windsor Carriage & Delivery Wagon Works of Windsor, Ontario, Canada, started building the Menard Auto Buggy in 1908. The name was subsequently changed to Menard Auto Buggy Company and again after turning from car to truck manufacture in 1910.
Number 9288, please.
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10101: MENARD
The Windsor Carriage & Delivery Wagon Works of Windsor, Ontario, Canada, started building the Menard Auto Buggy in 1908. The name was subsequently changed to Menard Auto Buggy Company and again after turning from car to truck manufacture in 1910.
Number 9288, please.
Yes, a 16hp built in 1908 and 1910. +22
9288: LOMAS
Are we talking about S.A. Minerva Motors, founded in Antwerpen, Belgium, in 1900 and that built luxury machines between 1902 and 1938?
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9288: LOMAS
I need a time range, please.
Early seventies 1972-73
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13257 sounds like a nice one ;)
13257: SANKEY
British Sankey's prototype invalid carriage?
Number #13.700
Nope, I've listed that under GKN.
Time range please! In the meantime : Wayne Sankey and his hillclimb car
Early twenties, 1921-1922
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 06:18:18 AM
Are we talking about S.A. Minerva Motors, founded in Antwerpen, Belgium, in 1900 and that built luxury machines between 1902 and 1938?
Precisely! +97
5.933, my next number and a -10....
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 06:35:31 AM
5.933, my next number and a -10....
Joseph Sankey & Sons Ltd from Wellington, Shropshire coachbuilt some cars (Ford, Armstrong-Siddeley, Austin...)
...riiisky...
5933: FORDHAM ENGINEERING
Thank you...may I have 11017, please?
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765:ARC (2)
I have only one ARC:
Michel Faure's "Atelier-Recherche-Création", Aquitaine; France
If yes, next number: 10001, please.
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5.933, my next number and a -10....
Joseph Sankey & Sons Ltd from Wellington, Shropshire coachbuilt some cars (Ford, Armstrong-Siddeley, Austin...)
...riiisky...
5933: FORDHAM ENGINEERING
Yes, almost a Ford... Can´t find it! Next guess : 2.657
2001:BLACKISTON
There was only one 1912 Blackiston, and no one knows what became of it. That is perhaps a good thing, since the car is most famous for being a one-of-a-kind, having an engine cover so large you couldn't see what was in front of it, and manslaughter. The product of George P. Blackiston, more tinkerer than visionary, his leviathan was a tribute to, well, no one knows, really. But it existed, and to the true tinkerer not much else matters. We won't spoil the it for you – if you enjoy a bit of intrigue with your internal combustion, then click on through to Hemmings for a good story well told.
I'd like to pass and go for 11285
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Can I try #6000 please
FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Not that...
The 4-cylinder Fox produced by ML van der Eyken, at Neuilly, Seine from 1912-14 or at Piteaux, Seine from 1919-23
1,341 please. :)
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Thank you...may I have 11017, please?
11017:NEW YORK AUTOMOBILE (1)
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765:ARC (2)
I have only one ARC:
Michel Faure's "Atelier-Recherche-Création", Aquitaine; France
If yes, next number: 10001, please.
Yes!
+22
1001:Mc KAIG
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5.933, my next number and a -10....
Joseph Sankey & Sons Ltd from Wellington, Shropshire coachbuilt some cars (Ford, Armstrong-Siddeley, Austin...)
...riiisky...
5933: FORDHAM ENGINEERING
Yes, almost a Ford... Can´t find it! Next guess : 2.657
Fordham Engineering from Ely, Cambridgeshire produced some models by Daytona Automotive under licence (Moya, Migi, ...)
2657 too close to your 2700.
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2001:BLACKISTON
There was only one 1912 Blackiston, and no one knows what became of it. That is perhaps a good thing, since the car is most famous for being a one-of-a-kind, having an engine cover so large you couldn't see what was in front of it, and manslaughter. The product of George P. Blackiston, more tinkerer than visionary, his leviathan was a tribute to, well, no one knows, really. But it existed, and to the true tinkerer not much else matters. We won't spoil the it for you – if you enjoy a bit of intrigue with your internal combustion, then click on through to Hemmings for a good story well told.
..and also a former puzzle of mine!
+21
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9288: LOMAS
I need a time range, please.
Early seventies 1972-73
Herbert Lomas Ltd, Ambulance Specialists, built a Range Rover ambulance in 1972.
Interesting find, but not the one I have...do you know where were they based in?
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 02, 2014, 12:23:26 PM
I'd like to pass and go for 11285
SCAD (2): Stephan Ceschia's Barchetta.
11285: OMLID
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9288: LOMAS
Herbert Lomas Ltd, Ambulance Specialists, built a Range Rover ambulance in 1972.
Interesting find, but not the one I have...do you know where were they based in?
In Handforth, Wilmslow, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
May I have 15000, please ?
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9288: LOMAS
Herbert Lomas Ltd, Ambulance Specialists, built a Range Rover ambulance in 1972.
Interesting find, but not the one I have...do you know where were they based in?
In Handforth, Wilmslow, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
OK, I still can't confirm it's the same but I have an idea.
For the moment I have to say it's not that, unless you have something more about...
10.200 please. :)
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FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Not that...
The 4-cylinder Fox produced by ML van der Eyken, at Neuilly, Seine from 1912-14 or at Piteaux, Seine from 1919-23
Not that...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:05:29 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 06:24:37 AM
9288: LOMAS
Herbert Lomas Ltd, Ambulance Specialists, built a Range Rover ambulance in 1972.
Interesting find, but not the one I have...do you know where were they based in?
In Handforth, Wilmslow, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
OK, I still can't confirm it's the same but I have an idea.
For the moment I have to say it's not that, unless you have something more about...
I can't find anything else, so please #2560.
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9288: LOMAS
Herbert Lomas Ltd, Ambulance Specialists, built a Range Rover ambulance in 1972.
Interesting find, but not the one I have...do you know where were they based in?
In Handforth, Wilmslow, Cheshire, United Kingdom.
OK, I still can't confirm it's the same but I have an idea.
For the moment I have to say it's not that, unless you have something more about...
I can't find anything else, so please #2560.
OK, now I can tell you what I'll do:
I'll take 10 more credits BUT, since the LOMAS I have was built in Knutsford, Cheshire, 9.5 miles from Handforth it can be related.
According to a couple of books they built a Formula Vee. I'm not home now, please remind me to look there and see if there is also the slightes hint about and I'll give you back 10+3+21 credits.
2560:BUHNE
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10.200 please. :)
10200: METZ (1)
Metz was a pioneer brass era automobile maker established by Charles Herman Metz in Waltham, Massachusetts, from ca.1908 to 1922.
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10.200 please. :)
10200: METZ (1)
Metz was a pioneer brass era automobile maker established by Charles Herman Metz in Waltham, Massachusetts, from ca.1908 to 1922.
Yes! +48
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
I'll take 10 more credits BUT, since the LOMAS I have was built in Knutsford, Cheshire, 9.5 miles from Handforth it can be related.
According to a couple of books they built a Formula Vee. I'm not home now, please remind me to look there and see if there is also the slightes hint about and I'll give you back 10+3+21 credits.
The Knudsford Lomas seems to have been Harold Lomas, stockcar racer in the 1970s. I can't say whether he is related to the Lomas coachbuilder family.
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Yes!
+22
10001:Mc KAIG
I don't know this marque, but I will try:
1903/1904 McKaig Friction Drive Vehicle Co. from Washinton (?) DC, USA. Started by A.D. Meiselbach.
I'd like to try #11011, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 03:42:55 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
I'll take 10 more credits BUT, since the LOMAS I have was built in Knutsford, Cheshire, 9.5 miles from Handforth it can be related.
According to a couple of books they built a Formula Vee. I'm not home now, please remind me to look there and see if there is also the slightes hint about and I'll give you back 10+3+21 credits.
The Knudsford Lomas seems to have been Harold Lomas, stockcar racer in the 1970s. I can't say whether he is related to the Lomas coachbuilder family.
I'll check those 2 books tomorrow and see if I can find more.
Once upon a time I though that Georgano was quite a complete list of car manufacturers...but now I begin thinking otherwise! This New York Automobile is the fourth name about which I didn't find a single word!...And another one about which is almost impossible to make a web research.
I quit again...may I have 12016?
number 10.923 please!
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2560:BUHNE
Buhne is the well-known coachbuilder from Berlin. Some of their cars:
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=23478
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=24029
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20762
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14712
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=26443
Number 4628, please.
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Yes!
+22
10001:Mc KAIG
I don't know this marque, but I will try:
1903/1904 McKaig Friction Drive Vehicle Co. from Washinton (?) DC, USA. Started by A.D. Meiselbach.
I'd like to try #11011, please.
And you are right!
+21
11011:NEW WAY
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I'd like to pass and go for 11285
SCAD (2): Stephan Ceschia's Barchetta.
11285: OMLID
In 1907 the Aneta Panorama wrote, "Halvor Omlid is nearly through with his auto, and he will go some when he gets it ready." - this was in North Dakota, USA
I'd like to go for 1026 please
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 03:47:06 PM
Once upon a time I though that Georgano was quite a complete list of car manufacturers...but now I begin thinking otherwise! This New York Automobile is the fourth name about which I didn't find a single word!...And another one about which is almost impossible to make a web research.
I quit again...may I have 12016?
Not complete but an excellent starting point.
New York Automobile Company was incorporated in Westfield (!), New Jersey in 1900.
12016: PNEUMOBILE
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Can I try #6000 please
FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Not that...
The 4-cylinder Fox produced by ML van der Eyken, at Neuilly, Seine from 1912-14 or at Piteaux, Seine from 1919-23
Not that...
I'll have to pull out of this one and take the penalty.
Can I try 5930 please?
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2560:BUHNE
Buhne is the well-known coachbuilder from Berlin. Some of their cars:
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=23478
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=24029
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20762
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14712
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=26443
Number 4628, please.
Yes! +33
4628:DOAN
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
And you are right!
+21
11011:NEW WAY
Tricky one, but I've found this:
Frank Clark sold his Clarkmobile business to New Way Motor Company in 1905. This company made New-Way car. It is also said that the last three units of Clarkmobile were also sold by this company.
Next: 12021, please.
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 02, 2014, 03:50:54 PM
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I'd like to pass and go for 11285
SCAD (2): Stephan Ceschia's Barchetta.
11285: OMLID
In 1907 the Aneta Panorama wrote, "Halvor Omlid is nearly through with his auto, and he will go some when he gets it ready." - this was in North Dakota, USA
I'd like to go for 1026 please
Yes!
+21
1026:AUDY MARINE
Quote from: D-type on January 02, 2014, 03:54:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:06:58 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:36:38 AM
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Can I try #6000 please
FOX (4)
Been away for a while as we had company over New Year.
Is this the Fox Motor Company, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania from 1921-23
Not that...
The 4-cylinder Fox produced by ML van der Eyken, at Neuilly, Seine from 1912-14 or at Piteaux, Seine from 1919-23
Not that...
I'll have to pull out of this one and take the penalty.
Can I try 5930 please?
Fox Automobil-AG Paul Rollmann, Cologne.
5930:FORD TAXICAB
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1026:AUDY MARINE
I wish I would have more free time, but now that ship has sailed.
Audy Marine was a British boat builder, located on Hayling Island. In the 1970s they offered a VW-based kit car, called Zeta and for a short while they took over the Baja GT buggy project.
My next number will be 15048. Thanks
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
4628:DOAN
George R. Doan was a physician from Newtown, PA, who built an automobile for himself in 1900.
Number 783, please.
Quote from: Arunas on January 02, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:49:47 PM
And you are right!
+21
11011:NEW WAY
Tricky one, but I've found this:
Frank Clark sold his Clarkmobile business to New Way Motor Company in 1905. This company made New-Way car. It is also said that the last three units of Clarkmobile were also sold by this company.
Next: 12021, please.
Yes!
+21
12021:PODADERA
PNEUMOBILE was the first American car with pneumatic suspensions; it was manufactured by Cowles-McDowell Pneumobile Co. Chicago in 1914-5. It was powered by a 6cylinder Buda engine.
If it is correct I would like to try 12117, please.
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:01:53 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:55:31 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 03:47:34 PM
number 10.923 please!
10923: NB NORTH-BRITISH
No results .... 8863 please!
North British Manufacturing Co. of Dumfries built the Drummond and after 1909 a 10hp under theyr name.
8863: :cheer: :cheer:
BINGO! ! !
LANCIA!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
+21
12021:PODADERA
Not sure what you have under this name but Francisco Podadera - creator of Anibal - made some Seat Ibiza conversions which were, I think, named Anibal Podadera / Raider / F100.
After 20 numbers, João found a top maker.
According to the rules, all of you (but João) can keep playing and try 20 numbers, and see if you can find another top maker too.
All of you (João included) can keep playing to score 1000 or above.
João will score 20 for this (no credits for models) and will keep playing for the other goal.
Just for your information, Lancia is #9.
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 02, 2014, 04:04:55 PM
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1026:AUDY MARINE
I wish I would have more free time, but now that ship has sailed.
Audy Marine was a British boat builder, located on Hayling Island. In the 1970s they offered a VW-based kit car, called Zeta and for a short while they took over the Baja GT buggy project.
My next number will be 15048. Thanks
Don't tell me! ;D
I didn't know about the Zeta\Seta :o
+21
15048:TOSAPE
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:58:06 PM
4628:DOAN
George R. Doan was a physician from Newtown, PA, who built an automobile for himself in 1900.
Number 783, please.
+21
783:ARDITA
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
1,341 please. :)
1341:BABY BLAKE
The Baby Blake was a British cyclecar manufactured by E.G. Blake in Croydon, Surrey in 1922.
It was unusual in being powered by two separate two-stroke engines driving friction discs. A third disc running between these and moveable backwards and forwards gave an infinitely variable drive to the rear axle. After being exhibited at the Crystal Palace, they were advertised at £150 but few were sold.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 04:10:18 PM
PNEUMOBILE was the first American car with pneumatic suspensions; it was manufactured by Cowles-McDowell Pneumobile Co. Chicago in 1914-5. It was powered by a 6cylinder Buda engine.
If it is correct I would like to try 12117, please.
Yes!
+23
12117: PRAB
Quote from: Arunas on January 02, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:06:03 PM
+21
12021:PODADERA
Not sure what you have under this name but Francisco Podadera - creator of Anibal - made some Seat Ibiza conversions which were, I think, named Anibal Podadera / Raider / F100.
Yes!
+21
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:34:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
1,341 please. :)
1341:BABY BLAKE
The Baby Blake was a British cyclecar manufactured by E.G. Blake in Croydon, Surrey in 1922.
It was unusual in being powered by two separate two-stroke engines driving friction discs. A third disc running between these and moveable backwards and forwards gave an infinitely variable drive to the rear axle. After being exhibited at the Crystal Palace, they were advertised at £150 but few were sold.
Perfect!
+21
Thank you! :)
1,392 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
783:ARDITA
In 1918, Alfredo Gallanzi of Milan acquired Antonio Chiribiri's leftover stock of parts and tried to market conventional 4-cylinder cars.
Number 9723, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:32:22 PM
783:ARDITA
In 1918, Alfredo Gallanzi of Milan acquired Antonio Chiribiri's leftover stock of parts and tried to market conventional 4-cylinder cars.
Number 9723, please.
Yes!
+22
MARIUS RENARD
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
Thank you! :)
1,392 please
BAILEY-KLAPP
The Bailey-Klapp, made by the Elwood Iron Works, Elwood, IN, was made as a prototype in 1915. It had an eight-cylinder motor and was to be offered as a touring and roadster models. Due the bankruptcy of the company, It never went into production. The rights to another car that the company was planning to make was sold to the Bimel Buggy Co., Sidney, OH, and went into production as the Elco.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:45:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
Thank you! :)
1,392 please
BAILEY-KLAPP
The Bailey-Klapp, made by the Elwood Iron Works, Elwood, IN, was made as a prototype in 1915. It had an eight-cylinder motor and was to be offered as a touring and roadster models. Due the bankruptcy of the company, It never went into production. The rights to another car that the company was planning to make was sold to the Bimel Buggy Co., Sidney, OH, and went into production as the Elco.
Perfect again!
+21
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Number 9723, please.
MARIUS RENARD
French coachbuilder Marius Renard had his appearance here:
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20762
Number 7777, please.
Great! :)
1,443 Please
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:47:49 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 04:45:50 PM
Number 9723, please.
MARIUS RENARD
French coachbuilder Marius Renard had his appearance here:
www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20762
Number 7777, please.
Right again!
+23
7777: ILLINOIS (1)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:59:33 PM
7777: ILLINOIS (1)
Too many possibilities, time range, please!
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7777: ILLINOIS (1)
Too many possibilities, time range, please!
Just 1905.
The Illionois Auto-Motor Company of Chicago planned to build America's first eight-cylinder car in 1905, but that never materialized.
Number 5296, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
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7777: ILLINOIS (1)
Too many possibilities, time range, please!
Just 1905.
The Illionois Auto-Motor Company of Chicago planned to build America's first eight-cylinder car in 1905, but that never materialized.
Number 5296, please.
Yes!
+21
5296: ENTZ
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
5296: ENTZ
Justus B. Entz experimented with automatic electric transmissions since the 1890s. In 1914 a converted Austro-Daimler with magnetic transmissions appeared as the Entz. R.M.Owen & Company purchased all legal rights and the Owen Magnetic appeared in 1915.
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
5296: ENTZ
Justus B. Entz experimented with automatic electric transmissions since the 1890s. In 1914 a converted Austro-Daimler with magnetic transmissions appeared as the Entz. R.M.Owen & Company purchased all legal rights and the Owen Magnetic appeared in 1915.
Right again!
+22
Number 5213, please.
PRAB: It's a car built in 1969 in two exemplaires (one red and another white) by two young friend, Paul Retailleau e Andre' Bodin, whose initials form the name Prab. The white one has been shown at 2012 Retromobile.
P.s. What happens now that Joao got one of the jokers?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 05:47:59 PM
Number 5213, please.
5213:EMBREE-McLEAN
In 1909, the Embree-McLean Carriage Company of St.Louis, MO, started building cars after twenty years of coachbuilding. Unfortunately the preparation of the production of three different cars with three different engines on three different chassis was more than they could handle. The company went bankrupt in 1910.
Number 101, please.
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Don't tell me! ;D
I didn't know about the Zeta\Seta :o
+21
15048:TOSAPE
Isn't this over now, that Joao stumbled into Lancia???
Anyhow, I only found a reference to Tosape Publishing which in the early 1950s published something related to custom cars. Is this what you had in mind?
If I am right and if this is not over, then I go for 555
8800, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 05:57:57 PM
PRAB: It's a car built in 1969 in two exemplaires (one red and another white) by two young friend, Paul Retailleau e Andre' Bodin, whose initials form the name Prab. The white one has been shown at 2012 Retromobile.
P.s. What happens now that got one of the jokers?
That's it.
+21
Joao made 20 attempts. You all can have 20 numbers to try your luck with the others 9 top makers.
No-one reached 1000 credits and all of you can play for that.
Quote from: D-type on January 02, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 06:03:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:50:53 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 02, 2014, 05:47:59 PM
Number 5213, please.
5213:EMBREE-McLEAN
In 1909, the Embree-McLean Carriage Company of St.Louis, MO, started building cars after twenty years of coachbuilding. Unfortunately the preparation of the production of three different cars with three different engines on three different chassis was more than they could handle. The company went bankrupt in 1910.
Number 101, please.
+23
101:ACME (1)
Ok, may I try with 5766?
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 12:14:21 AM
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Don't tell me! ;D
I didn't know about the Zeta\Seta :o
+21
15048:TOSAPE
Isn't this over now, that Joao stumbled into Lancia???
Anyhow, I only found a reference to Tosape Publishing which in the early 1950s published something related to custom cars. Is this what you had in mind?
If I am right and if this is not over, then I go for 555
Yes, the Martz!
+21
The game is still open untill everyone tries 20 numbers to spot another top maker and have the same chances Joao had.
Beside that, everyone (Joao included) can keep playing for the 2nd goal, the 1000 credits.
555: AMERICAN MOTOR (2)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 05:02:35 AM
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Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:40:12 AM
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101:ACME (1)
Time range, please.
1903-1909
There seems to be some uncertainty about the date Acme closed down. David Burgess Wise has your time range, Georgano has 1903-1910, the Standard Catalog has 1903-1911. Anyhow, this is the Acme Motor Company of Reading, PA, building two-, four- and six-cylinder cars up to 9653 cc.
Number 1141, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
Quote from: Wendax on January 03, 2014, 06:03:30 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:40:12 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:31:37 AM
101:ACME (1)
Time range, please.
1903-1909
There seems to be some uncertainty about the date Acme closed down. David Burgess Wise has your time range, Georgano has 1903-1910, the Standard Catalog has 1903-1911. Anyhow, this is the Acme Motor Company of Reading, PA, building two-, four- and six-cylinder cars up to 9653 cc.
Number 1141, please.
Correct.
+54
1141:AUTO-BUG
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 06:42:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 06:54:40 AM
1141:AUTO-BUG
The Auto-Bug Company of Norwalk, OH, built a highwheeler from 1909 to 1910.
Number 3897, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 03, 2014, 07:08:23 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 06:54:40 AM
1141:AUTO-BUG
The Auto-Bug Company of Norwalk, OH, built a highwheeler from 1909 to 1910.
Number 3897, please.
+24
3897:CRISPOLTI
(-19 to 1000)
My last answer, if I'm right:
Luigi Crispolti took part in the Catania-Etna race in 1953 with a Fiat-based and BMW-engined racecar.
The Swiss racing team Filipinetti (Frank Sbarro has been one of its chief engineers), realized in 1973 a Fiat X 1/9.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:37:00 AM
Quote from: Arunas on January 03, 2014, 01:20:25 AM
8800, please
LAFITTE (2)
Its it?
Ste de Construction de Voiturettes Th. Lafitte; Gennevilliers, Seine; France
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 06:42:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
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555: AMERICAN MOTOR (2)
The American Motor Car Company was a short-lived company in the automotive industry founded in 1906, lasting until 1913. It was based in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States. The American Motor Car Company pioneered the "underslung" design.
There was another one prior to this in 1902-1903 - but as it's your 2nd entry, hopefully you wanted the Indianapolis-based company.
My next one would be 5611. thanks
Quote from: Wendax on January 03, 2014, 07:41:16 AM
My last answer, if I'm right:
Luigi Crispolti took part in the Catania-Etna race in 1953 with a Fiat-based and BMW-engined racecar.
It is! :applause:
It's not sure if He is also the builder of the 'Castelfusano' and the 'Vallelunga'.
+23: 1004
No more numbers for you!
You reached 1004 after 45 numbers. Let's see if someone will done better!
Quote from: targhediferro on January 03, 2014, 07:50:56 AM
The Swiss racing team Filipinetti (Frank Sbarro has been one of its chief engineers), realized in 1973 a Fiat X 1/9.
+24:361 with 16 numbers.
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 06:42:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
Yes!
+22:291 with 21 numbers
1801:BENSON (2)
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 10:14:34 AM
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555: AMERICAN MOTOR (2)
The American Motor Car Company was a short-lived company in the automotive industry founded in 1906, lasting until 1913. It was based in Indianapolis, Indiana, United States. The American Motor Car Company pioneered the "underslung" design.
There was another one prior to this in 1902-1903 - but as it's your 2nd entry, hopefully you wanted the Indianapolis-based company.
My next one would be 5611. thanks
Not the one I have...
Then I need a time range please
Next: 9150
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 02:30:41 PM
Already taken ;)
Sorry, didn't notice the numbers list on the first page ;)
Then please 15220
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 10:46:58 AM
Then I need a time range please
Just 1 year: 1906.
The American Motor Company of Eau Claire, Wisconsin was a US$15,000 incorporation from late 1906. C.T. Bundy, Roy P Wilcox and Hanna F Johnson announced their plan "to build motor cars" but apparently never followed through on it.
So 5611 please
Quote from: faksta on January 03, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 02:30:41 PM
Already taken ;)
Sorry, didn't notice the numbers list on the first page ;)
Then please 15220
TUCK
You have 79 credits after 4 numbers.
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 11:23:32 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 10:46:58 AM
Then I need a time range please
Just 1 year: 1906.
The American Motor Company of Eau Claire, Wisconsin was a US$15,000 incorporation from late 1906. C.T. Bundy, Roy P Wilcox and Hanna F Johnson announced their plan "to build motor cars" but apparently never followed through on it.
So 5611 please
Yes!
+21
5611:FAWICK FLYER
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 02, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 11:26:18 AM
Quote from: Arunas on January 03, 2014, 11:12:13 AM
Next: 9150
9150:LIBERTY BRUSH
Liberty-Brush was made only for 1913 by Brush Runabout Co, Detroit, MI
13013, please
Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 02, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
[quote
So 5611 please
[/quote]
Yes!
+21
5611:FAWICK FLYER
[/quote]
The Fawick, built in Milwaukee, WI and Sioux Falls, SD was probably the first car to have front doors.
Thomas L. Fawick built his first four door car in 1910 and he powered it with a Waukesha Model A four cylinder engine built in Waukesha, Wisconsin. When Theodore Roosevelt visited Sioux Falls that autumn, a four door Fawick was chosen to meet the president at the station and lead the parade through the city.
The company existed 'til 1912
My next one would 3367. thanks
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 12:02:27 PM
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So 5611 please
Yes!
+21
5611:FAWICK FLYER
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The Fawick, built in Milwaukee, WI and Sioux Falls, SD was probably the first car to have front doors.
Thomas L. Fawick built his first four door car in 1910 and he powered it with a Waukesha Model A four cylinder engine built in Waukesha, Wisconsin. When Theodore Roosevelt visited Sioux Falls that autumn, a four door Fawick was chosen to meet the president at the station and lead the parade through the city.
The company existed 'til 1912
My next one would 3367. thanks
[/quote]
Perfect!
+23
3367:CLASSIC ROADSTERS II
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Perfect!
+23
3367:CLASSIC ROADSTERS II
In 2003 Don Scott of Minnesota Classic Motorsports took over the Classic Roadsters business from IMA Industries.
Classic Roadsters II was based in Sauk Centre, Minnesota
Don continued production of the Sebring MX and introduced the Badlands RT, with a Hummer look.
The company was around 'til about 2008 or 2009
My next would be 120. thanks
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Perfect!
+23
3367:CLASSIC ROADSTERS II
In 2003 Don Scott of Minnesota Classic Motorsports took over the Classic Roadsters business from IMA Industries.
Classic Roadsters II was based in Sauk Centre, Minnesota
Don continued production of the Sebring MX and introduced the Badlands RT, with a Hummer look.
The company was around 'til about 2008 or 2009
My next would be 120. thanks
Yes!
+24
120:ACT
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
13013:ROUSSON
Rousson et Chamonix from Feurs, Loire made vehicles from ~1910 to 1914.
No pictures.
12950
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My next would be 120. thanks
120:ACT
Uh, you can't google that, can you :)? If my memory serves me right this was a French kitcar company in the 1990s. If not, then I pass and go for 9842
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
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Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
pass
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
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May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
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13013:ROUSSON
Rousson et Chamonix from Feurs, Loire made vehicles from ~1910 to 1914.
No pictures.
12950
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
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My next would be 120. thanks
120:ACT
Uh, you can't google that, can you :)? If my memory serves me right this was a French kitcar company in the 1990s. If not, then I pass and go for 9842
Not that: ACT Engineering from Billingshurst built the MR-Z a sort of Datsun-based Ferrari Replica
9842:MASCOT (2)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
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Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
pass
Baldwin Motor Service Company, incorporated in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1910
Next number?
Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 12:01:21 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
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Quote from: pguillem on January 02, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
Not that.
Time for a recap.
I've done a check and I fixed some mistakes in my calculation.
Wendax reached 1002.
I'll post the details at the end.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:27:03 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 02, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 05:02:35 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
pass
Baldwin Motor Service Company, incorporated in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1910
Next number?
1,494, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:57:13 PM
Time for a recap.
I've done a check and I fixed some mistakes in my calculation.
Wendax reached 1002.
I'll post the details at the end.
Is the game over?
May I have 15606?
Quote from: D-type on January 03, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Not that.
Quote from: Arunas on January 03, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
Not that.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:37:58 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 05:02:35 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
pass
Baldwin Motor Service Company, incorporated in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1910
Next number?
1,494, please.
1494: BARAVELLI
the game is not over, I've just fixed some errors in your scores.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 03, 2014, 04:24:48 PM
May I have 15606?
15606: VIALLE
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:45:01 PM
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Quote from: pguillem on January 02, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
Not that.
Pope-Toledo ?
Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
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Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
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Quote from: pguillem on January 03, 2014, 11:40:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 03:10:35 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 02, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
Not that.
Pope-Toledo ?
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
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Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
Yes!
+22:291 with 21 numbers
1801:BENSON (2)
Time range please!
The only Vialle I found is a Dutch industry, leader in production of GPL injection sistems; even if it would be wrong I'd like to pass to 12593. Thank you.
Quote from: D-type on January 03, 2014, 03:43:57 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 05:39:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 06:55:45 AM
Quote from: João on January 03, 2014, 06:42:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: João on January 02, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
Yes!
+22:291 with 21 numbers
1801:BENSON (2)
Time range please!
Just 1 year, 1901.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 03, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
The only Vialle I found is a Dutch industry, leader in production of GPL injection sistems; even if it would be wrong I'd like to pass to 12593. Thank you.
Carrosserie A. Vialle in Tulle (later Lyons).
12593: RENAULT IVORY COAST
QuoteQuoteQuote
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
Not that.
Time range for Romer [3], please.
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
QuoteNot that.
Time range for Romer [3], please.
Just 1 year, 1972.
Quote from: D-type on January 03, 2014, 06:24:36 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 05:27:03 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 03:53:03 AM
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
QuoteNot that.
Time range for Romer [3], please.
Just 1 year, 1972.
Bernard Mermet built Romer with Renault 8 Gordini engine in 1972.
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 04:02:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 03:53:03 AM
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
QuoteNot that.
Time range for Romer [3], please.
Just 1 year, 1972.
Bernard Mermet built Romer with Renault 8 Gordini engine in 1972.
Yes, and thanks for these pics.
:thumbsup: 12899 :)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 04:31:26 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Not that.
Quote from: Arunas on January 03, 2014, 04:04:47 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
+22
12950:ROMER (3)
Is this 1921 Romer by Romer Motors Corp., Danvers, Massachusetts, USA ???
If yes -> 12899.
Not that.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:43:41 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 03, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 05:18:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 02, 2014, 04:56:46 PM
Great! :)
1,443 Please
1443:BALDWIN MOTOR
Builder of steam-powered delivery wagons in Providence, Rhode Island. 1899-1908. Designed and built by Leo F.
N. Baldwin.
Not that.
OK. How about this:
In 1921, Baldwin Motor company of Los Angeles, CA, became the regional distributor for Chevrolet automobiles. They had previously been the distributor for Saxon, Columbia and Oldsmobile commercial vehicles.
Not that.
pass
Baldwin Motor Service Company, incorporated in Hackensack, New Jersey in 1910
Next number?
1,494, please.
1494: BARAVELLI
1938 Stanguellini-Fiat 500 with aerodynamic roof for the Tobruk-Tripoli 1600km, made by Giulio Baravelli of Perugia
You are good!
That was not the car in my archive, I have it under Stanguellini but the man is the same!
I listed his 'tin can special', an AFM-tuned BMW-engined car.
Next number?
Wow!
1,545 please
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 04:34:14 AM
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:thumbsup: 12899 :)
RODIN
Bad luck on this one... I don't know what this could be. Let' skip to 12500.
C.F. Rodin from San Francisco, California, built a tonneau in 1910.
12500:REBOUR
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 03:55:26 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Quote from: D-type on January 04, 2014, 04:54:09 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Just 1913.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:39:10 AM
12500:REBOUR
1905-1908 Automobiles Rebour from Puteaux, Seine, FRANCE
Made at least 4 models.
Please
1024.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
+25!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:56:36 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 02, 2014, 04:03:51 PM
5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is it the Ford Taxicab made by Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Just 1913.
Aaaaggghhhh!
Renault...Cote D'Ivoyre SA, is a Renault factory in Abdijan!
Quote from: Arunas on January 04, 2014, 05:07:44 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:39:10 AM
12500:REBOUR
1905-1908 Automobiles Rebour from Puteaux, Seine, FRANCE
Made at least 4 models.
Please 1024.
those 4 models:10\12, 18\22, 20\25 and 40\50.
+24
1024: too close to your 1011
1024
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5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is it the Ford Taxicab made by Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Just 1913.
I think you forgot something ;)
Quote from: targhediferro on January 04, 2014, 05:50:12 AM
Aaaaggghhhh!
Renault...Cote D'Ivoyre SA, is a Renault factory in Abdijan!
Where you can buy a Bandama.
Correct, +23.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
+25!
Cool!
How about 1,596?
May I have 15657, please?
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5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is it the Ford Taxicab made by Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Just 1913.
I think you forgot something ;)
Whoops! :bag:
I think I hit "Preview" instead of "Post"
Is this the Ford Taxicab from Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 06:31:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 05:35:56 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 04, 2014, 04:26:22 AM
Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
+25!
Cool!
How about 1,596?
BATTIN
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 07:22:08 AM
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3290
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CITUS
Time range, please
1900-1903
I like this game!
I really did not know what is this
Citus, but no I think I have found it:
Fyens Cycle Værk from Odense, Denmark built three- and four-wheeled cars named Citus in this period.
Next:
15735, please
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Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
+25!
Cool!
How about 1,596?
BATTIN
In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
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5930:FORD TAXICAB
Is it the Ford Taxicab made by Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Is that a Ford Crown Victoria from about 1990 by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit ?
Not that...
2011 Ford Transit Connect. With Ford's policy of sourcing every car and component from at least two countries it could be from the factories in Gölcük, near Kocaeli, Turkey, from Craiova, Romania or from Valencia, Spain amongst others.
Australian Ford Falcon ?
Not that...it's 'Ford Taxicab' ;)
I'd better have a clue - time range please.
Just 1913.
I think you forgot something ;)
Whoops! :bag:
I think I hit "Preview" instead of "Post"
Is this the Ford Taxicab from Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
Not that...
Vigillante is a Californian firm that in 1974 developed the project of a strange and futuristic car named TriVette, based on Fiat 850 power train.
May I have 5710?
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3290
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CITUS
Time range, please
1900-1903
I like this game!
I really did not know what is this Citus, but no I think I have found it:
Fyens Cycle Værk from Odense, Denmark built three- and four-wheeled cars named Citus in this period.
Next: 15735, please
yes! +22
15735:VNIITE
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Wow!
1,545 please
BARRE' & LAMBERTHON
Gaston Barré partnered with his son, Maxime, and one of his factory managers to form Barre' et Lamberthon, Niort, Deux-Sevres, France, in 1923.
+25!
Cool!
How about 1,596?
BATTIN
In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
Yes!
+21
Quote from: targhediferro on January 04, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Vigillante is a Californian firm that in 1974 developed the project of a strange and futuristic car named TriVette, based on Fiat 850 power train.
May I have 5710?
+22
5710: FIAM (1)
FIAM: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Motori, Brescia e Torino, 1924-27; it built a light car with a 750cc engine.
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yes! +22
15735:VNIITE
ВНИИТЭ - Всесоюзный научно-исследовательский институт технической эстетики.
[All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Technical Aesthetics]
Their most famous prototype vehicles are 1964 ПТ (PT) and 1966 Макси (Maksi) - both made with a great contribution of the famous engineer Yurij Dolmatovskij.
12590
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FIAM: Fabbrica Italiana Automobili Motori, Brescia e Torino, 1924-27; it built a light car with a 750cc engine.
Yes!
+26
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yes! +22
15735:VNIITE
ВНИИТЭ - Всесоюзный научно-исследовательский институт технической эстетики.
[All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Technical Aesthetics]
Their most famous prototype vehicles are 1964 ПТ (PT) and 1966 Макси (Maksi) - both made with a great contribution of the famous engineer Yurij Dolmatovskij.
...of all the players... ;D
Yes! +22
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yes! +22
15735:VNIITE
ВНИИТЭ - Всесоюзный научно-исследовательский институт технической эстетики.
[All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Technical Aesthetics]
Their most famous prototype vehicles are 1964 ПТ (PT) and 1966 Макси (Maksi) - both made with a great contribution of the famous engineer Yurij Dolmatovskij.
...of all the players... ;D
Yes! +22
:)
12590
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yes! +22
15735:VNIITE
ВНИИТЭ - Всесоюзный научно-исследовательский институт технической эстетики.
[All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Technical Aesthetics]
Their most famous prototype vehicles are 1964 ПТ (PT) and 1966 Макси (Maksi) - both made with a great contribution of the famous engineer Yurij Dolmatovskij.
...of all the players... ;D
Yes! +22
:) 12590
RENAUDIN & BESSON
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:) 12590
RENAUDIN & BESSON
Renaudin & Besson was a French coachbuilder which mostly bodied Delahaye, Aster and Unic cars. I don't know exact existence period, but this is what I have found.
#2065
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:) 12590
RENAUDIN & BESSON
Renaudin & Besson was a French coachbuilder which mostly bodied Delahaye, Aster and Unic cars. I don't know exact existence period, but this is what I have found.
#2065
Right!
+21
[quote author=Paul Jaray link=topic=27069.msg306875#msg306875 date=13Is it the Ford Taxicab made by Duncan & Fraser,
5930:FORD TAXICAB
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Is this the Ford Taxicab from Duncan & Fraser, Adelaide, Australia ?
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Not that...
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Can I have the next clue please
It's an american maker.
#2065
BMF
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BMF
This stands for "Berliner Motorwagenfabrik GmbH" active from 1904 to 1907.
Am I missing the obvious answer? Is the 1913 Ford Taxicab made by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit?
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Am I missing the obvious answer? Is the 1913 Ford Taxicab made by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit?
Nope...in that case the name would have been 'Ford'.
This one is 'Ford Taxicab' and the full name was Ford Taxicab Corporation.
Since you are slowing down a bit, here's a recap:
Wendax: 45 numbers, score: 1002
Arunas: 28 numbers, score: 469
Targhediferro: 21 numbers, score: 405
Joao: 22 numbers, score: 283
pnegyesi: 17 numbers, 246
Otto Puzzell: 9 numbers, score: 164
D-Type: 9 numbers, score: 79
Faksta: 5 numbers, score: 79
Allan L: 6 numbers, score: 46
Ropat53: 2 numbers, score: 24
pguillem: 5 numbers, score: 15
Tom_I: 2 numbers, score: 13
Joao found top maker #9 (Lancia), after 20 numbers.
Wendax reached 1000 after 45 numbers
Arunas, Targhediferro and Joao can only play to reach 1000.
I'm going to set a time limit to give all of you the chance to reach at least 45 numbers but in a reasonable time.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 08:29:43 AM
In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
Yes!
+21
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1,647 please :)
Please: 13137
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In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
Yes!
+21
1,647 please :)
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BEARDSLEY
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May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
Not that.
Pope-Toledo ?
Not that.
I feel that Toledo steam car is not the answer, so i prefer to quit. May I have 15334 please ?
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In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
Yes!
+21
1,647 please :)
BEARDSLEY
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The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
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May I have 15000, please ?
15000: TOLEDO (3)
Is it the Toledo built by the International Motor Car Company in Toledo ? If yes, please give me 14159. Thanks.
Not that...
Maybe the Toledo American Bicycle Co.?
Not that.
Pope-Toledo ?
Not that.
I feel that Toledo steam car is not the answer, so i prefer to quit. May I have 15334 please ?
Toldeo Auto-Cycle Car Company from Toledo, Ohio built a 9hp Cyclecar in 1913-1914.
15334:UNION (4)
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In 1856, Joseph Battin, of Newark, N. J., constructed a steam carriage with a vertical boiler and oscillating engines.
Yes!
+21
1,647 please :)
BEARDSLEY
The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
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+28!
May I have 296? Thank you.
ALA D'ORO: Franco Bertani, gentleman driver, champion in 1938, rescued a little firm that manufactured parts for planes, the Officine Reggiane, and founded in 1946 the coach holding factory "Ala d'oro", settled in Reggio Emilia. Ala d'oro coachbuilded many sports car, in particular with Stanguellini and Fiat 1100 base.
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Am I missing the obvious answer? Is the 1913 Ford Taxicab made by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit?
Nope...in that case the name would have been 'Ford'.
This one is 'Ford Taxicab' and the full name was Ford Taxicab Corporation.
Well, I can't find any reference to "Ford Taxicab Corporation" in Georgano or on the internet so I'll have to quit on this one.
Can I have 3730 please?
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ALA D'ORO: Franco Bertani, gentleman driver, champion in 1938, rescued a little firm that manufactured parts for planes, the Officine Reggiane, and founded in 1946 the coach holding factory "Ala d'oro", settled in Reggio Emilia. Ala d'oro coachbuilded many sports car, in particular with Stanguellini and Fiat 1100 base.
Yes!
+29
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Am I missing the obvious answer? Is the 1913 Ford Taxicab made by the Ford Motor Company, Detroit?
Nope...in that case the name would have been 'Ford'.
This one is 'Ford Taxicab' and the full name was Ford Taxicab Corporation.
Well, I can't find any rteference to "Ford Taxicab Corporation" in Georgano or on the internet so I'll have to quit on this one.
Can I have 3730 please?
Ford Taxicab Corporation was incorporated in Portland, Maine, in 1913.
3730:CORDENG-AERO
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3730:CORDENG-AERO
No idea where to start looking. Can I quit and try another
Can I try 997 ?
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3730:CORDENG-AERO
No idea where to start looking. Can I quit and try another
Can I try 997 ?
Cordeng Brothers from Swalmen built a race car in 1952.
997 too close to your 948
Benson (2) : The Benson Automobile Company of Cleveland was organized in March of 1901 to take over the steam car department of the Eastman Automobile Company, Henry F. Eastman having decided to confine all future efforts to the building of all metal bodies only. The transfer was completed by May with A.M. Benson (a manufacturer of stave machinery) joined in this new enterprise by L.P. McLouth (a former Eastman official) and Edward F. Hamm and H.P. Shupe (old bicycle men). A factory at 102 Canal Street in Cleveland was outfitted for manufacture of the former Eastman, which was modified only in detail to become the new Benson. It featured a semi-flash boiler, a Kelly burner, an Eastman all-steel body, and a $750 price tag. The first Benson was being tested on Cleveland streets later in May, and at least a dozen more were built before year's end. The venture does not seem to have survived into 1902, however.
Next number #11.616
> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
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Benson (2) : The Benson Automobile Company of Cleveland was organized in March of 1901 to take over the steam car department of the Eastman Automobile Company, Henry F. Eastman having decided to confine all future efforts to the building of all metal bodies only. The transfer was completed by May with A.M. Benson (a manufacturer of stave machinery) joined in this new enterprise by L.P. McLouth (a former Eastman official) and Edward F. Hamm and H.P. Shupe (old bicycle men). A factory at 102 Canal Street in Cleveland was outfitted for manufacture of the former Eastman, which was modified only in detail to become the new Benson. It featured a semi-flash boiler, a Kelly burner, an Eastman all-steel body, and a $750 price tag. The first Benson was being tested on Cleveland streets later in May, and at least a dozen more were built before year's end. The venture does not seem to have survived into 1902, however.
Next number #11.616
After such a reply, it's a shame I have to say it's not my BENSON (2)...I know you had 50\50...
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> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
Not that.
Remember, you can have 4 clues (1 credit each) if you like.
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3730:CORDENG-AERO
No idea where to start looking. Can I quit and try another
Can I try 997 ?
Cordeng Brothers from Swalmen built a race car in 1952.
997 too close to your 948
:ranton: Dung in a bucket!
How about 1960 ?
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3730:CORDENG-AERO
No idea where to start looking. Can I quit and try another
Can I try 997 ?
Cordeng Brothers from Swalmen built a race car in 1952.
997 too close to your 948
:ranton: Dung in a bucket!
How about 1960 ?
1960:BIRD AUTOMOTIVE
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Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
Yes!
+22:291 with 21 numbers
1801:BENSON (2)
Time range please!
Just 1 year, 1901.
:scratch: Unless there is another 1901 Benson...I´ll try
"Benson Automobile, the first car to be built in the state of Oregon. It was started in Portland in 1904 by inventor Nils Benson and assistant James Chance, and was completed in its present 4-cylinder form in 1906..."
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13789.msg124763#msg124763
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Lancia Automobiles S.p.A. , an Italian automobile manufacturer founded in 1906 by Vincenzo Lancia which became part of the Fiat Group in 1969.
A gorgeous Lancia Stratos :
Number #3177.
I took from granted that you knew it, but it's correct...I should have waited ::)
3177:CHEVALLIER (2)
Rules, rules ::) Time range please!
About 1931-1935
Thanks! 1931-1935 Chevallier : A Bol d´Or 1100 Traction Avant, ruby powered monoplace. Next number #1801
Yes!
+22:291 with 21 numbers
1801:BENSON (2)
Time range please!
Just 1 year, 1901.
:scratch: Unless there is another 1901 Benson...I´ll try
"Benson Automobile, the first car to be built in the state of Oregon. It was started in Portland in 1904 by inventor Nils Benson and assistant James Chance, and was completed in its present 4-cylinder form in 1906..."
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13789.msg124763#msg124763
Not that. :-\
May I have 13017, please?
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> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
Not that.
Remember, you can have 4 clues (1 credit each) if you like.
OK for clue # 1 Thanks
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> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
Not that.
Remember, you can have 4 clues (1 credit each) if you like.
OK for clue # 1 Thanks
This maker was active from 1908 to 1909.
Gianni (Nino) Rovelli realized a car based upon a Bmw 328, which took part in the Piacenza Circuit, 1947; perhaps he did other cars.
Right or wrong I'd like to have 13213. Thank you.
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1960:BIRD AUTOMOTIVE
The Bird Machine Company of South Walpole, Massachusetts, USA in association with Deutz AG produced refuse disposal vehicles in 1995
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Gianni (Nino) Rovelli realized a car based upon a Bmw 328, which took part in the Piacenza Circuit, 1947; perhaps he did other cars.
Right or wrong I'd like to have 13213. Thank you.
That's him!
+24
13213: SAM (2)
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1960:BIRD AUTOMOTIVE
The Bird Machine Company of South Walpole, Massachusetts, USA in association with Deutz AG produced refuse disposal vehicles in 1995
Not that...'Bird Automotive' is part of the name, not Bird Machine.
My first replay for SAM is Societa' Automobili e Motori, Milano-Legnano 1924-29. If it should be wrong, I lose 3 points and I say SAM by Marian Miler, a Dkw based, realized in Poland in 1952.
If also this replay is wrong I quit this name.
My next number 3288. Thank you.
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My first replay for SAM is Societa' Automobili e Motori, Milano-Legnano 1924-29. If it should be wrong, I lose 3 points and I say SAM by Marian Miler, a Dkw based, realized in Poland in 1952.
If also this replay is wrong I quit this name.
My next number 3288. Thank you.
Not the italian SAM, that is SAM (1).
It is a polish selfbuilt car of the 50s and was even available with a DKW engine, but it was from 1954 (some sources reports also a single seater and active till 1956) and the builder was Antonin Weiner.
3288:CITROEN ARGENTINA
No ideas about Tuck so far. May I use hint #1?
Renault Cote d'Ivoyre...Citroen Argentina...Can't they remain in their own countries to build cars????
Anyway...Citroen Argentina was founded in 1967 in Barracas and began to offer Ami 6 (called simply 3cv), Mehari and 2cv. Some years later the production included the chew Ami 8 and a special version of 2cv named IES America. Production ended in 1982.
My next choose is 11306; thank you.
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9876:MATFORD
SA Francaise Matford from Strasbourg
Next:
11090, please.
Just one question: let's say I have guessed #100, #151 and #300. When I can have #110, #160, etc?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
+28!
1698, please. :)
Quote from: faksta on January 04, 2014, 09:43:01 PM
No ideas about Tuck so far. May I use hint #1?
Just 1 year, 1904.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 03:50:43 AM
Renault Cote d'Ivoyre...Citroen Argentina...Can't they remain in their own countries to build cars????
Anyway...Citroen Argentina was founded in 1967 in Barracas and began to offer Ami 6 (called simply 3cv), Mehari and 2cv. Some years later the production included the chew Ami 8 and a special version of 2cv named IES America. Production ended in 1982.
My next choose is 11306; thank you.
Yes!
+30
11306:OPES
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9876:MATFORD
SA Francaise Matford from Strasbourg
Next: 11090, please.
Just one question: let's say I have guessed #100, #151 and #300. When I can have #110, #160, etc?
Yes!
+20 +50
11090: NMC
about your question: when every other possibility expired...in other words when you have not other numbers respecting that rule.
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
+28!
1698, please. :)
BEELS
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Yes!
+20 +50
11090: NMC
I have NMC for National Motorcar Corp. from Davie, Florida which made neoclassic Phantom Classic Coupe.
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Yes!
+20 +50
11090: NMC
I have NMC for National Motorcar Corp. from Davie, Florida which made neoclassic Phantom Classic Coupe.
This is a different one...
OPES: Officine Precisione e Stampaggio, Torino, 1946-49, realized the Opes Ninfea.
Next choice, 11806, please.
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The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
+28!
1698, please. :)
BEELS
Lex Beels, from Holland, was a regular 500 racer in Coopers and own cars. He began with a Mk III in 1949 and finished third at Zandvoort behind Moss and Aston but beating Brandon and Dryden and followed this with a second at Goodwood in September to Peter Collins. His "unauthorised" Goodwood appearance in a British race led to a rapid rewriting of the rules for foreign competitors competing in British national races, fortunately with a sensible outcome.
For 1950, he switched to his own Cooper derived Beels cars. He finished third in his heat at Monaco in May but failed to finish in the final.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 05:34:20 AM
OPES: Officine Precisione e Stampaggio, Torino, 1946-49, realized the Opes Ninfea.
Next choice, 11806, please.
+22
11806:PETITCOLIN
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 05:38:23 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
The Beardsley Electric Co. filed its Articles of Incorporation with California's Secretary of State in 1913. The California-based Beardsley Electric Company proclaimed that it designed its electric cars for Pacific Coast roads and climate. The company targeted both male and female drivers with its advertising campaigns.
The company dealt in vehicle manufacture, sales and upkeep. By 1918, the Beardsley Co. was no longer an active corporation.
+28!
1698, please. :)
BEELS
Lex Beels, from Holland, was a regular 500 racer in Coopers and own cars. He began with a Mk III in 1949 and finished third at Zandvoort behind Moss and Aston but beating Brandon and Dryden and followed this with a second at Goodwood in September to Peter Collins. His "unauthorised" Goodwood appearance in a British race led to a rapid rewriting of the rules for foreign competitors competing in British national races, fortunately with a sensible outcome.
For 1950, he switched to his own Cooper derived Beels cars. He finished third in his heat at Monaco in May but failed to finish in the final.
Yes!
+21 and thank you for the nice pic!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 05:50:43 AM
Yes!
+21 and thank you for the nice pic!
1749, please. :)
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Yes!
+21 and thank you for the nice pic!
1749, please. :)
BELLANGER
Robert Bellanger and his brothers founded Automobiles Bellanger Frères in 1912 for the production of motor cars. The company was situated at Neuilly-sur-Seine on the north-western edge of Paris on, in the Rue de la Révolte, today a section of the subsequently renamed Boulevard Pershing in the 17th arrondissement of Paris.
The cars were branded "Bellanger" although badges carrying the longer name "Bellanger Frères" (Bellanger Brothers) was also sometimes featured on the car badges.
Robert Bellanger embarked in a career as a politician in the 1920s and the "Bellanger Frères" business was sold in 1925, one of several smaller French automakers acquired by Peugeot around this time. However, in 1928 the site was sold again, and became the property of the newly formed Automobiles L. Rosengart business and used for the production under license of the little Austin 7.
Bellanger had also started to produce aero-engines during the First World War. Despite disposing of the automotive business, Bellanger continued to produce aero-engines 'till 1928.
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Yes!
+21 and thank you for the nice pic!
1749, please. :)
BELLANGER
Robert Bellanger and his brothers founded Automobiles Bellanger Frères in 1912 for the production of motor cars. The company was situated at Neuilly-sur-Seine on the north-western edge of Paris on, in the Rue de la Révolte, today a section of the subsequently renamed Boulevard Pershing in the 17th arrondissement of Paris.
The cars were branded "Bellanger" although badges carrying the longer name "Bellanger Frères" (Bellanger Brothers) was also sometimes featured on the car badges.
Robert Bellanger embarked in a career as a politician in the 1920s and the "Bellanger Frères" business was sold in 1925, one of several smaller French automakers acquired by Peugeot around this time. However, in 1928 the site was sold again, and became the property of the newly formed Automobiles L. Rosengart business and used for the production under license of the little Austin 7.
Bellanger had also started to produce aero-engines during the First World War. Despite disposing of the automotive business, Bellanger continued to produce aero-engines 'till 1928.
Yes!
+29
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Yes!
+29
1800, please. :)
BENSON (1)
I know that 1802 was BENSON (2) but in the meantime I added a maker (BA****) and the list shifted down.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 07:21:01 AM
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Yes!
+29
1800, please. :)
BENSON (1)
I know that 1802 was BENSON (2) but in the meantime I added a maker (BA****) and the list shifted down.
The Benson Automobile was the first automobile built in the state of Oregon. Garage Inventor Nils Benson and his teenage assistant James Chance started working on the car in 1904. Benson ordered some parts and made others at his machine shop on SE Grand Avenue in Portland. The rubber tires were shipped from Indochina.
The Benson Automobile was displayed at the 1905 Lewis & Clark Centennial Exposition in Portland and operated there for 3 months. Later, Benson added a crankshaft and 2 more cylinders for a total of 4 before the automobile was considered finished in 1906. Though he originally planned to build more, this was the only automobile Benson ever built.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 07:31:09 AM
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Yes!
+29
1800, please. :)
BENSON (1)
I know that 1802 was BENSON (2) but in the meantime I added a maker (BA****) and the list shifted down.
The Benson Automobile was the first automobile built in the state of Oregon. Garage Inventor Nils Benson and his teenage assistant James Chance started working on the car in 1904. Benson ordered some parts and made others at his machine shop on SE Grand Avenue in Portland. The rubber tires were shipped from Indochina.
The Benson Automobile was displayed at the 1905 Lewis & Clark Centennial Exposition in Portland and operated there for 3 months. Later, Benson added a crankshaft and 2 more cylinders for a total of 4 before the automobile was considered finished in 1906. Though he originally planned to build more, this was the only automobile Benson ever built.
Unfortunately this one is not reported in any of my books...
Not that.
The only Petitcolin I found is a formula car used in the seventies in some hill-climb races in France. Right or wrong I would try with 3187 please.
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The only Petitcolin I found is a formula car used in the seventies in some hill-climb races in France. Right or wrong I would try with 3187 please.
Yes, a Formula libre built in 1965.
+21
3187:CHI & THE GANG
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Yes!
+29
1800, please. :)
BENSON (1)
I know that 1802 was BENSON (2) but in the meantime I added a maker (BA****) and the list shifted down.
The Benson Automobile was the first automobile built in the state of Oregon. Garage Inventor Nils Benson and his teenage assistant James Chance started working on the car in 1904. Benson ordered some parts and made others at his machine shop on SE Grand Avenue in Portland. The rubber tires were shipped from Indochina.
The Benson Automobile was displayed at the 1905 Lewis & Clark Centennial Exposition in Portland and operated there for 3 months. Later, Benson added a crankshaft and 2 more cylinders for a total of 4 before the automobile was considered finished in 1906. Though he originally planned to build more, this was the only automobile Benson ever built.
Unfortunately this one is not reported in any of my books...
Not that.
Rocket car used by Wilford E. Danelz (1909-1999) of Benson, Minnesota to help sell that city's Benson Monitor-News.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 07:47:44 AM
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Yes!
+29
1800, please. :)
BENSON (1)
I know that 1802 was BENSON (2) but in the meantime I added a maker (BA****) and the list shifted down.
The Benson Automobile was the first automobile built in the state of Oregon. Garage Inventor Nils Benson and his teenage assistant James Chance started working on the car in 1904. Benson ordered some parts and made others at his machine shop on SE Grand Avenue in Portland. The rubber tires were shipped from Indochina.
The Benson Automobile was displayed at the 1905 Lewis & Clark Centennial Exposition in Portland and operated there for 3 months. Later, Benson added a crankshaft and 2 more cylinders for a total of 4 before the automobile was considered finished in 1906. Though he originally planned to build more, this was the only automobile Benson ever built.
Unfortunately this one is not reported in any of my books...
Not that.
Rocket car used by Wilford E. Danelz (1909-1999) of Benson, Minnesota to help sell that city's Benson Monitor-News.
Cool...but wrong.
Chi & The Gang is a sort of supercar, inspired to Ferrari F-50 replica built in Taiwan.
May I have 11509, please?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 08:01:59 AM
Chi & The Gang is a sort of supercar, inspired to Ferrari F-50 replica built in Taiwan.
May I have 11509, please?
+22
11509:PANDARUS
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 08:12:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 08:00:39 AM
Cool...but wrong.
Pass :(
1851, please.
Benson Automobile Company form Cleveland, Ohio built a steamer in 1901.
Take a look at reply 679 ;)
1851: BERRET
Pandarus is an Australian firm that builds a sort of AustinHealey 100/4 replica, with Gilbern's and other marques mechanics.
May I have 12940 please?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 08:27:10 AM
Pandarus is an Australian firm that builds a sort of AustinHealey 100/4 replica, with Gilbern's and other marques mechanics.
May I have 12940 please?
Yes!
+22
12940:ROMAN DESIGN
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 08:17:22 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 08:00:39 AM
Cool...but wrong.
Pass :(
1851, please.
Benson Automobile Company form Cleveland, Ohio built a steamer in 1901.
Take a look at reply 679 ;)
1851: BERRET
:doh:
This bit, from 1903, makes note of a 3-cylinder petrol-powered car built by M. Berret of France in 1888:
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 08:40:06 AM
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Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 08:12:55 AM
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Cool...but wrong.
Pass :(
1851, please.
Benson Automobile Company form Cleveland, Ohio built a steamer in 1901.
Take a look at reply 679 ;)
1851: BERRET
:doh:
This bit, from 1903, makes note of a 3-cylinder petrol-powered car built by M. Berret of France in 1888:
Perfect!
+22
1902, please
I suppose that Roman Design is the firm of Tulipov Roman. Right or wrong I'd like to try with 11458, thank you.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 11:00:07 AM
I suppose that Roman Design is the firm of Tulipov Roman. Right or wrong I'd like to try with 11458, thank you.
Roman A.D. from Newport Beach (later Ontario), California built a couple of replicas (a Diablo and a Bugatti) in the late 90s.
11458: PADUS
Padus, Fabbrica Automobili Padus, Torino, 1906-1908; they produced a simple car with 6 or 8 hp engine.
My next choice is 15753 please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
Padus, Fabbrica Automobili Padus, Torino, 1906-1908; they produced a simple car with 6 or 8 hp engine.
My next choice is 15753 please.
Right!
+23
15753:VOEGELE INDUSTRIES
Voegele Industries began to build its Amante GT in 1970, a fiberglass VW-based car that actually was a rebadged Hebina Plastics Gazelle.
My next number is 2068, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 12:59:27 PM
Voegele Industries began to build its Amante GT in 1970, a fiberglass VW-based car that actually was a rebadged Hebina Plastics Gazelle.
My next number is 2068, please.
Yes!
+24
2068: BMW (2)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2014, 05:31:08 PM
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> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
Not that.
Remember, you can have 4 clues (1 credit each) if you like.
OK for clue # 1 Thanks
This maker was active from 1908 to 1909.
Is it Union Carriage Co. St. Louis, MO 1908-1909 ? If so, please give me 15400. Thanks.
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1960:BIRD AUTOMOTIVE
The Bird Machine Company of South Walpole, Massachusetts, USA in association with Deutz AG produced refuse disposal vehicles in 1995
Not that...'Bird Automotive' is part of the name, not Bird Machine.
Can I call it a day on this one and try 10150 please
I´ll pass Paul. Next number : 5715 please.
I know only Bayerische Motoren Werke, but I'm afraid it's not the right one! (This would be the fourth time I miss a big one for one or two numbers).
So, anyway, may I have 10179?
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Quote from: pguillem on January 04, 2014, 04:48:06 PM
> 15334:UNION (4)
Falling from Charybde to Scylla... The Union Automobile Co. from Union City, Indiana ?
Not that.
Remember, you can have 4 clues (1 credit each) if you like.
OK for clue # 1 Thanks
This maker was active from 1908 to 1909.
Is it Union Carriage Co. St. Louis, MO 1908-1909 ? If so, please give me 15400. Thanks.
Right!
+23
15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2014, 02:14:30 PM
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1960:BIRD AUTOMOTIVE
The Bird Machine Company of South Walpole, Massachusetts, USA in association with Deutz AG produced refuse disposal vehicles in 1995
Not that...'Bird Automotive' is part of the name, not Bird Machine.
Can I call it a day on this one and try 10150 please
Of course!
Bird Automotive from Omaha, Nebraska built the Super Bird between 1966 and 1980.
10150: MERRIMAC
15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Quote from: João on January 05, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
I´ll pass Paul. Next number : 5715 please.
Andrew & John B. Benson from Chicago, Illinois, built a Runabout in 1901.
5715:FIAT FRANCE
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 03:10:44 PM
I know only Bayerische Motoren Werke, but I'm afraid it's not the right one! (This would be the fourth time I miss a big one for one or two numbers).
So, anyway, may I have 10179?
There was a little electric car made by Boulevard Machine Works from Hollywood, California.
I wish I could say more, but I can't...I won't reveal anything to help anyone but you are not the only one and as a small consolation I can say that since my index is moving, the correspondance between the numbers is moving too ;)
10179:METEOR (9)
Quote from: pguillem on January 05, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
10150: MERRIMAC
The Merrimac Body Company was a subsidiary of J B Judkins Company, Merrimac, Maryland
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Quote from: João on January 05, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
I´ll pass Paul. Next number : 5715 please.
Andrew & John B. Benson from Chicago, Illinois, built a Runabout in 1901.
5715:FIAT FRANCE
Established by Henri-Théodore Pigozzi in November 1934, the company was formed with the intention of building Fiats for the French market. Production would take place at the former Donnet-Zédel factory at Nanterre. Pigozzi actually had a long association with Fiat; in 1922, he had met Giovanni Agnelli, and from this came a lucrative business in returning scrap cars to Turin for recycling. Following this, Pigozzi became responsible for a Fiat distribution chain in France called SAFAF (Société Anonyme Français des Automobiles FIAT), and this was followed by a medium-sized assembly operation based at a plant in Suresnes (on the edge of Paris) which used components imported or built under licence in Paris. From 1928 to 1934, approximately 30,000 of these French FIATs were assembled and sold by Pigozzi.
#9849, my next guess.
Quote from: João on January 05, 2014, 05:07:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: João on January 05, 2014, 02:55:41 PM
I´ll pass Paul. Next number : 5715 please.
Andrew & John B. Benson from Chicago, Illinois, built a Runabout in 1901.
5715:FIAT FRANCE
Established by Henri-Théodore Pigozzi in November 1934, the company was formed with the intention of building Fiats for the French market. Production would take place at the former Donnet-Zédel factory at Nanterre. Pigozzi actually had a long association with Fiat; in 1922, he had met Giovanni Agnelli, and from this came a lucrative business in returning scrap cars to Turin for recycling. Following this, Pigozzi became responsible for a Fiat distribution chain in France called SAFAF (Société Anonyme Français des Automobiles FIAT), and this was followed by a medium-sized assembly operation based at a plant in Suresnes (on the edge of Paris) which used components imported or built under licence in Paris. From 1928 to 1934, approximately 30,000 of these French FIATs were assembled and sold by Pigozzi.
#9849, my next guess.
Correct!
+21
9849 : MASON MOTOR
Can I try 2067 please?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 04:48:44 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 05, 2014, 04:34:22 PM
15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
I think I need a clue...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 05, 2014, 05:20:53 PM
Can I try 2067 please?
2067: BMW(1)
Bayerische Motoren-Werke, Eisenach & Munchen 1928-39 and Munchen 1952-date
I try with Carr.Meteor, settled in Varese in 1946, that realized some streamlined sport cars on Fiat 1100 and Lancia Aprilia bases.
I couldn't go on trying (as you listed 9 names!!!), so I will change and ask for 9845, thank you.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
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15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
I don't think that it is the Universal Motor Gerät known as Unimog. May I have another clue ?
I think I need a clue...
Late 50s...probably 1958.
The Mason Motor Car Company was incorporated early in 1906 in Des Moines. It was named for Edward R. Mason, a local attorney who supplied the money. Supplying the two-cylinder car to be built was Fred S. Duesenberg, who with his brother August had opened a garage in town in 1903.
2601 please!
Quote from: targhediferro on January 05, 2014, 06:30:47 PM
I try with Carr.Meteor, settled in Varese in 1946, that realized some streamlined sport cars on Fiat 1100 and Lancia Aprilia bases.
I couldn't go on trying (as you listed 9 names!!!), so I will change and ask for 9845, thank you.
Not that.
(and by the way there are at least 13 meteors under the sky ;D )
9845:MASON (1)
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15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
Late 50s...probably 1958.
I don't think that it is the Universal Motor Gerät known as Unimog. May I have another clue ?
I think I need a clue...
Despite the name, it should be from Italy.
Quote from: João on January 06, 2014, 12:57:04 AM
The Mason Motor Car Company was incorporated early in 1906 in Des Moines. It was named for Edward R. Mason, a local attorney who supplied the money. Supplying the two-cylinder car to be built was Fred S. Duesenberg, who with his brother August had opened a garage in town in 1903.
2601 please!
Not that.
This game should be limited in time.
Targhediferro, Arunas, D-Type, Joao, pnegyesi, Otto Puzzell, Faksta, Allan L, pguillem, Ropat53 and Tom_I, please, try to post at least once a day.
No problem with some of you, that are near the end of it, but for others, keeping this pace, they'll reach 45 numbers in some months!
There's no hurry and advise if you can't, but try to catch up with the others. ;)
Can I try 10801 please?
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MUSKEGON
Can't find anything on that one.
Can I try 11299 please?
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 05:20:57 AM
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MUSKEGON
Can't find anything on that one.
Can I try 11299 please?
Muskegon Motor Company from Muskegon, Michigan, incorporated in 1905.
11299:ONONDAGA
MASON (I): I hope it's William B. Mason, Boston, Mass. 1899.
My next request is for number 15329, thank you.
p.s. I continue to play and post, even if the best strategy would suggest to wait in order to get jollies offered from other slighty errors (as my BMW-2); quizzers who have posted 2 or 3 answers till now, have many more chances to get a big-one than we have, also because they have no choice limits (for istance,I've no chance to give answers about marques quite sure identified, because they are too near, less than 50 numbers, to my previous answers). ;)
Correct!
A Steamer built in 1899.
+21
Thank you for your suggestions...
I tried to keep this game as fair as possible, but it's always a game and fortunately the biggest part of it is related to sheer luck....
I won't call your nearly missed top makers 'errors': you thought they were in that area but you couldn't be sure...other players may hope that a number before BMW (2) is indeed BMW (1) but it won't be always like that. In the meantime I added quite a number of new makers, to keep this uncertainty.
On the other hand, other players may have just 1 stab to each 'supposed' easy shot, no more than that, and each one will help yet another player.
It's true, if you wait, the list will became more defined, but consider this: when it started, we reached 264 posts in few hours! It means that if a puzzler was far from a PC that day, he would have no chance to catch up with the game.
I knew it was a matter of time but nobody told anyone to rush...I would have done the same you did, it's strangely addictive to post a number and see what turns out, even for me that have just to look in my index to see what it is.
Wendax game is over now, and for sure if he waited more and more he would have reached 1000 before, but I'm sure he enjoyed the game even if there's the chance he won't win... ;)
back to game:
15329:ULTRAMOBILE
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
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1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Oh...I forgot to add that some makers are fully covered even if they are quite 'small' and some big names have very few models listed, because I do not need to file them...you'd be surprised to know which one is my top maker #7 or 23, for example...and BMW was 26.
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1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Blanc, Fallieres et Besset from Aveyronnais built a single seater in 1961.
1953: already taken ;)
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15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
Late 50s...probably 1958.
I don't think that it is the Universal Motor Gerät known as Unimog. May I have another clue ?
I think I need a clue...
Despite the name, it should be from Italy.
Oh boy ! I'm heading for the Minotaurus. Let's try 8900...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 05:51:55 AM
11299:ONONDAGA
I can't find anything on that.
Was it a promotional vehicle for Onondaga Dragway, Michigan?
Right or wrong, can I please have 9844 as my next number
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 09:50:35 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 03:55:45 AM
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15400: UNIVERSAL MOTOR
This one ? If I'm right, please give me 15451. Thanks !
Not that.
Late 50s...probably 1958.
I don't think that it is the Universal Motor Gerät known as Unimog. May I have another clue ?
I think I need a clue...
Despite the name, it should be from Italy.
Oh boy ! I'm heading for the Minotaurus. Let's try 8900...
;)
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=8334.msg85803#msg85803
8900:L'ARDENNAISE
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 05:51:55 AM
11299:ONONDAGA
I can't find anything on that.
Was it a promotional vehicle for Onondaga Dragway, Michigan?
Right or wrong, can I please have 9844 as my next number
Onondaga Automobile Company from Syracuse, New York (then Cronin Automobile Company) built a 30hp Touring car in1906.
9844:MASERATI
I don't think I can play as frequently as most but I'll have another go with
15900
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
I don't think I can play as frequently as most but I'll have another go with
15900
If you wan to play till the end you can have your time.
I hope you'll be able to post at least once a day to keep it going at a reasonable pace.
Please note that, in case someone reaches 1000 with less than 45 numbers, or a top maker in less than 20, these will be the new limits.
15900:WALWORTH
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Blanc, Fallieres et Besset from Aveyronnais built a single seater in 1961.
1953: already taken ;)
1239, please. :)
8900:L'ARDENNAISE
Two for the price of one :
1) H. Lessieux et Cie was a French manufacturer based in Rethel which marketed automobiles from 1911 to 1903 under the name of L'Ardennaise
2) Maison Demorgny began in 1901 the production of automobiles under the name of L'Ardennaise. It ended in 1905
There is no relation between these two manufacturers.
Am I right or is it another Italian 3-wheeler ? :lmao: 1200 would be my next choice
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Blanc, Fallieres et Besset from Aveyronnais built a single seater in 1961.
1953: already taken ;)
1239, please. :)
Quite close to your 1234 guess. ;)
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 11:38:42 AM
8900:L'ARDENNAISE
Two for the price of one :
1) H. Lessieux et Cie was a French manufacturer based in Rethel which marketed automobiles from 1911 to 1903 under the name of L'Ardennaise
2) Maison Demorgny began in 1901 the production of automobiles under the name of L'Ardennaise. It ended in 1905
There is no relation between these two manufacturers.
Am I right or is it another Italian 3-wheeler ? :lmao: 1200 would be my next choice
You are lucky, it's number #1. (If it was #2 I had to take -3 for the guess ;) )
+22
1200:AUTOMOBILE EXCHANGE (1)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 10:32:55 AM
9844:MASERATI
Officine Alfieri Maserati SpA. Bologna 1926-1938, Modena 1938 to date
Right or wrong, can I have 11350 next please
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 10:32:55 AM
9844:MASERATI
Officine Alfieri Maserati SpA. Bologna 1926-1938, Modena 1938 to date
Right or wrong, can I have 11350 next please
Yes!
20+296
11350:OSBORN STEAMER
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:05:21 PM
11350:OSBORN STEAMER
The only 'Osborn steamer' I can find is a steamboat :ranton:
Can I try 5650 please
[1200:AUTOMOBILE EXCHANGE (1)
May I have clue please ? Thanks.
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 12:40:18 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:05:21 PM
11350:OSBORN STEAMER
The only 'Osborn steamer' I can find is a steamboat :ranton:
Can I try 5650 please
Allen D. Osborn from Mount Carmel, Connecticut built a Steamer around 1905
5650:FELLOWS
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
[1200:AUTOMOBILE EXCHANGE (1)
May I have clue please ? Thanks.
Just 1 year, 1904.
Time range please Mr. Jaray.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
5650:FELLOWS
The Ron Fellows special edition Corvette in 2007
Right or wrong, can I have 15760 next please?
Ultramobile: Voiture Ultramobile, Paris, 1908, a car probably connected with Oldsmobile Curved Dash, with a 4 cyl. 6-12 hp engine.
My next request is 10525, thank you.
P.s. About my previous post, I'm sorry if it seemed I wanted to be polemicous, your quiz is so amazing and interesting that I really didn't mean to contest its rules, just wanted to tell my hope that this quiz will be won by the best quizzer.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 06, 2014, 01:12:26 PM
Ultramobile: Voiture Ultramobile, Paris, 1908, a car probably connected with Oldsmobile Curved Dash, with a 4 cyl. 6-12 hp engine.
My next request is 10525, thank you.
P.s. About my previous post, I'm sorry if it seemed I wanted to be polemicous, your quiz is so amazing and interesting that I really didn't mean to contest its rules, just wanted to tell my hope that this quiz will be won by the best quizzer.
I read it the right way, then. ;)
I thought at all the possible problems but didn't expect a rush like that...It was planned to be a long puzzle and in the meantime I was keeping shifting the list.
You can't imagine the hard work to answer each post (updating several lists of scores, numbers, attempts, makers...), checking the +\-50 rule AND keep working on that list to avoid the problem you reported.
Between my replies I've been able to insert dozens of new makers in few days to make it harder..but it's a pleasure since you like it! ;D
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:43:55 PM
5650:FELLOWS
The Ron Fellows special edition Corvette in 2007
Right or wrong, can I have 15760 next please?
B. W. Fellows from Beverly, Massachusetts built a 8hp around 1905.
15760:VOGEL CAR
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
[1200:AUTOMOBILE EXCHANGE (1)
May I have clue please ? Thanks.
Just 1 year, 1904.
I'll better quit this one. 2501, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 06, 2014, 01:12:26 PM
Ultramobile: Voiture Ultramobile, Paris, 1908, a car probably connected with Oldsmobile Curved Dash, with a 4 cyl. 6-12 hp engine.
My next request is 10525, thank you.
P.s. About my previous post, I'm sorry if it seemed I wanted to be polemicous, your quiz is so amazing and interesting that I really didn't mean to contest its rules, just wanted to tell my hope that this quiz will be won by the best quizzer.
10525:MONDEX MAGIC
The Mason Motor Car Company was organized in New York City during the spring of 1916 with a capital stock of $30,000 for the manufacture of engines and automobiles. Incorporators were N.N. Mason, J. Ward and A.W. Logan. Manufacture of a car is doubted.
Guess #15763 please!
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 12:45:08 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 12:41:47 PM
[1200:AUTOMOBILE EXCHANGE (1)
May I have clue please ? Thanks.
Just 1 year, 1904.
I'll better quit this one. 2501, please.
Automobile Exchange was incorporated in Chicago, Illinois in 1904.
2501:BUCCIALI
Mondex-Magic is a car manufactured in 1914 by the Aristos Co. New York. It used a Fischer 6 cyl. engine.
I will try with 10576, thank you.
Quote from: João on January 06, 2014, 01:31:06 PM
The Mason Motor Car Company was organized in New York City during the spring of 1916 with a capital stock of $30,000 for the manufacture of engines and automobiles. Incorporators were N.N. Mason, J. Ward and A.W. Logan. Manufacture of a car is doubted.
Guess #15763 please!
Yes!
+21
15763:VOGT
Quote from: targhediferro on January 06, 2014, 01:36:32 PM
Mondex-Magic is a car manufactured in 1914 by the Aristos Co. New York. It used a Fischer 6 cyl. engine.
I will try with 10576, thank you.
Yes!
+22
10576:MOPS
MOPS: It was a little three wheeler with a 350 cc. engine, built in 1925 by Schmidt & Bensdorf Gmbh, Mannheim.
I would like to try with 944. Thank you.
Vogt Autotechnik, Bad Neuenahr, Germany?
The german television ZDF ordered a number of Admiral and Kapitän Fastback-Sedans for their camera teams.
Next guess : 11.901
Quote from: targhediferro on January 06, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
MOPS: It was a little three wheeler with a 350 cc. engine, built in 1925 by Schmidt & Bensdorf Gmbh, Mannheim.
I would like to try with 944. Thank you.
Yes!
+21
944:ASTRA (6)
Quote from: João on January 06, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
Vogt Autotechnik, Bad Neuenahr, Germany?
The german television ZDF ordered a number of Admiral and Kapitän Fastback-Sedans for their camera teams.
Next guess : 11.901
Yes!
+21
11901:PIERCAVE
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
I don't think I can play as frequently as most but I'll have another go with
15900
If you wan to play till the end you can have your time.
I hope you'll be able to post at least once a day to keep it going at a reasonable pace.
Please note that, in case someone reaches 1000 with less than 45 numbers, or a top maker in less than 20, these will be the new limits.
15900:WALWORTH
Well I think A.O. Walworth & Co who built some cars in 1905-6 in Chicago may be what you mean.
11950 please, if right.
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
15760:VOGEL CAR
All I can find is that Adolf Hitler nicknamed the Mercedes-Benz T80 record car 'der Schwartzen Vogel'
As this is probably wrong, can I try 12925 please
2501:BUCCIALI
Spot on ! I was hoping this one
The Bucciali was a French automobile manufactured from 1922 until 1933. Built by the brothers Bucciali, it began life at Courbevoie as a cyclecar under the name Buc. Initial offerings were powered by 1,340 cc two-cylinder two-stroke engines. In 1925 a 1,600 cc S.C.A.P.-engined model appeared, available in two versions, the "Tourisme" and the "Quatre Speciale" supercharged. A six-cylinder car of 1,500 cc displacement was also offered. 1928 saw the creation of a TAN six-cylinder and an eight-cylinder with front-wheel drive and Sensaud de Lavaud's steering and automatic gearbox, both of which caused a sensation. In the 1930s the company produced the Double Huit, also a front-wheel drive model, which was powered by a pair of Continental straight-eight engines mounted side by side. The last of the prototypes took a Voisin 12-cylinder engine. Very few of the front-wheel-drive Buccialis ever reached the road.
While it is not known exactly how many of the TAV 12 models were produced, only two are known by automotive enthusiasts to still exist: one in the USA and one in France.
8870, maybe ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Blanc, Fallieres et Besset from Aveyronnais built a single seater in 1961.
1953: already taken ;)
1239, please. :)
Quite close to your 1234 guess. ;)
Maybe this is a sign - I should be concentrating more on work! :)
8300, please.
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 11:23:20 AM
I don't think I can play as frequently as most but I'll have another go with
15900
If you wan to play till the end you can have your time.
I hope you'll be able to post at least once a day to keep it going at a reasonable pace.
Please note that, in case someone reaches 1000 with less than 45 numbers, or a top maker in less than 20, these will be the new limits.
15900:WALWORTH
Well I think A.O. Walworth & Co who built some cars in 1905-6 in Chicago may be what you mean.
11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 02:28:54 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 06, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
15760:VOGEL CAR
All I can find is that Adolf Hitler nicknamed the Mercedes-Benz T80 record car 'der Schwartzen Vogel'
As this is probably wrong, can I try 12925 please
Not that.
Vogel Car Manufacturing Company from St. Louis, Missouri, active in 1909.
12925:ROLAND (2)
Quote from: pguillem on January 06, 2014, 02:31:39 PM
2501:BUCCIALI
Spot on ! I was hoping this one
The Bucciali was a French automobile manufactured from 1922 until 1933. Built by the brothers Bucciali, it began life at Courbevoie as a cyclecar under the name Buc. Initial offerings were powered by 1,340 cc two-cylinder two-stroke engines. In 1925 a 1,600 cc S.C.A.P.-engined model appeared, available in two versions, the "Tourisme" and the "Quatre Speciale" supercharged. A six-cylinder car of 1,500 cc displacement was also offered. 1928 saw the creation of a TAN six-cylinder and an eight-cylinder with front-wheel drive and Sensaud de Lavaud's steering and automatic gearbox, both of which caused a sensation. In the 1930s the company produced the Double Huit, also a front-wheel drive model, which was powered by a pair of Continental straight-eight engines mounted side by side. The last of the prototypes took a Voisin 12-cylinder engine. Very few of the front-wheel-drive Buccialis ever reached the road.
While it is not known exactly how many of the TAV 12 models were produced, only two are known by automotive enthusiasts to still exist: one in the USA and one in France.
8870, maybe ?
Yes!
+30
8870: too close to your 8900
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 11:38:10 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 08:41:21 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 04:39:17 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 06, 2014, 04:31:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2014, 10:02:23 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 05, 2014, 10:00:30 AM
1902, please
BFB
Date range, please
It was built in 1961.
Sorry - can't find it. Pass
# 1953 please
Blanc, Fallieres et Besset from Aveyronnais built a single seater in 1961.
1953: already taken ;)
1239, please. :)
Quite close to your 1234 guess. ;)
Maybe this is a sign - I should be concentrating more on work! :)
8300, please.
8300:KAISER WILLYS
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Maybe this is a sign - I should be concentrating more on work! :)
8300, please.
8300:KAISER WILLYS
Hmmm... Off hand, one might guess that this would be the result of the Kaiser and Willys merger. In 1953, Kaiser merged with Willys-Overland to form Willys Motors Incorporated, moving its production operations to the Willys plant at Toledo, Ohio. The company changed its name to Kaiser Jeep Corporation in 1963.
So, none of the manufacturing entities were named Kaiser Willys. However, the merged company's sales division operated under that name for a time, as seen in this ad for the '54 Kaiser, built by Willys Motors, Incorporated.
QuoteVogel Car Manufacturing Company from St. Louis, Missouri, active in 1909.
12925:ROLAND (2)
So, I missed Volkswagen :taz:
Is this the product of Kraftwagen-Gessellschaft Roland, Berlin-Wilmersdort, 1907
Right or wrong can I try 1121 next please?
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 04:38:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Not that.
I put them in chronological order, if they are the same, I usually put the shorter one first (but it's not always like that).
A good suggestion, in this case, would be to use the 1st hint, the time range.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 07, 2014, 05:19:36 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Maybe this is a sign - I should be concentrating more on work! :)
8300, please.
8300:KAISER WILLYS
Hmmm... Off hand, one might guess that this would be the result of the Kaiser and Willys merger. In 1953, Kaiser merged with Willys-Overland to form Willys Motors Incorporated, moving its production operations to the Willys plant at Toledo, Ohio. The company changed its name to Kaiser Jeep Corporation in 1963.
So, none of the manufacturing entities were named Kaiser Willys. However, the merged company's sales division operated under that name for a time, as seen in this ad for the '54 Kaiser, built by Willys Motors, Incorporated.
Correct.
+31
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 05:43:01 AM
QuoteVogel Car Manufacturing Company from St. Louis, Missouri, active in 1909.
12925:ROLAND (2)
So, I missed Volkswagen :taz:
Is this the product of Kraftwagen-Gessellschaft Roland, Berlin-Wilmersdort, 1907
Right or wrong can I try 1121 next please?
Nope, it was Firma Bertling from Dessau, 1926.
1121:AUTO SPORT PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 06:07:04 AM
1121:AUTO SPORT PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
Auto Sport Performance Products, Tempe, Arizona; United States produced kit cars from 1994-2000
Right or wrong can I try 4300 next please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:53:10 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 04:38:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Not that.
I put them in chronological order, if they are the same, I usually put the shorter one first (but it's not always like that).
A good suggestion, in this case, would be to use the 1st hint, the time range.
I have them in chronological order too, and offered the third on that basis. My next offering assumes you have three, not four, and is the electric car of that name made in 1959 by the Nic-L-Silver Battery Co of Santa Ana, California - not my period, so I know very little about it.
If wrong, time range hint please.
I'll quit about Astra (too many chances) and I ask for number 1802, thank you.
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 06:07:04 AM
1121:AUTO SPORT PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
Auto Sport Performance Products, Tempe, Arizona; United States produced kit cars from 1994-2000
Right or wrong can I try 4300 next please
Yes!
+25
4300: DE SOTO (2)
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 07:34:12 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:53:10 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 04:38:45 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
Quote from: Allan L on January 06, 2014, 02:22:02 PM
11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Not that.
I put them in chronological order, if they are the same, I usually put the shorter one first (but it's not always like that).
A good suggestion, in this case, would be to use the 1st hint, the time range.
I have them in chronological order too, and offered the third on that basis. My next offering assumes you have three, not four, and is the electric car of that name made in 1959 by the Nic-L-Silver Battery Co of Santa Ana, California - not my period, so I know very little about it.
If wrong, time range hint please.
Not that.
This PIONEER was built in 1898.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 07, 2014, 08:36:41 AM
I'll quit about Astra (too many chances) and I ask for number 1802, thank you.
Astra Car Co Ltd, Hampton Hill, Middlesex.
1802:BENTALL
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 01:03:25 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 06:07:04 AM
1121:AUTO SPORT PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
Auto Sport Performance Products, Tempe, Arizona; United States produced kit cars from 1994-2000
Right or wrong can I try 4300 next please
Yes!
+25
4300: DE SOTO (2)
It could be
De Soto Motor Co, Auburn Indiana from 1913-1916
or
De Soto brand of the Chrysler Motor Corporation, Detroit from 1928 to 1960
Assuming you have set the database up chronologically, I'll go for the Detroit one
And right or wrong, can I go for 11830 as my next one please?
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 01:37:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 01:03:25 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 06:07:04 AM
1121:AUTO SPORT PERFORMANCE PRODUCTS
Auto Sport Performance Products, Tempe, Arizona; United States produced kit cars from 1994-2000
Right or wrong can I try 4300 next please
Yes!
+25
4300: DE SOTO (2)
It could be
De Soto Motor Co, Auburn Indiana from 1913-1916
or
De Soto brand of the Chrysler Motor Corporation, Detroit from 1928 to 1960
Assuming you have set the database up chronologically, I'll go for the Detroit one
And right or wrong, can I go for 11830 as my next one please?
Right!
20+36
11830:PHAETON COACH
9500:MACHIAVELLI
The Machiavelli Max. It was built in 1986 by the Henderson Motor Corporation in Florida USA.This reproduction of the Ferrari GTB is so close to the original design that the Ferrari attorneys forced the Henderson Motor Corporation to stop making this car.This is NOT A KIT CAR. Machiavelli purchased brand new Pontiac Firebird Trans Am's and then blueprinted the V8 high performance engines, had Herb Adams (who did the suspension on the original Cobra's suspensions) rework the Trans Am suspension. Then the Ferrari designed type body was installed on the Trans Am chassis by trained craftsmen. The front end is steel except for the bonnet, which has original Ferrari steel air intakes. The entire rear end is steel with the exception of the rear hatch, which is fitted with steel Ferrari engine air vents. The front and rear bumpers are original Ferrari equipment. The car is fitted with burled walnut dash and Recaro tan leather seats. The transmission is General Motors 4 speed automatic with overdrive. The wheel are 16 x 8 aluminum. The car is FULL POWER: steering, brakes, seats, windows, door locks, delay wipers, am-fm disk player, cruise control, 2 rear fold up seats, electric trunk lock and release, electric adjustable mirrors, glass targa-top removable roof and the list goes on and on. PLEASE don't confuse this automobile with the little Fiero fiberglass kit cars.This is a FACTORY PRODUCTION AUTOMOBILE installed on a brand new General Motors chassis. When Machiavelli sold these cars in the late 1980s they cost over $35,000 and they were sold with a 2 year 24,000 mile warranty from General Motors on the entire drive train. The price includes WA rego and at less than half the cost of a 308
Thanks Machiavelli for your help ! Next step : # 9600, please. Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 12:59:23 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 07, 2014, 06:16:07 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:55:42 AM
Correct.
+31
8351, PLEASE
KAUHSEN
Kauhsen was a Formula One constructor from Germany, founded by former sportscar driver Willi Kauhsen. The team started in Formula Two in 1976, purchasing Renault cars, and raced with an assortment of drivers with limited success. Kauhsen then entered the 1979 Formula One season, spending 1978 designing their own chassis with Cosworth engines. They participated in two World Championship Grands Prix with Gianfranco Brancatelli, failing to qualify on both occasions, before the team was shut down.
The Kauhsen organization is also referred to in such glowing terms as "one of F1's most abysmal efforts".
Quote from: pguillem on January 07, 2014, 03:23:12 PM
9500:MACHIAVELLI
The Machiavelli Max. It was built in 1986 by the Henderson Motor Corporation in Florida USA.This reproduction of the Ferrari GTB is so close to the original design that the Ferrari attorneys forced the Henderson Motor Corporation to stop making this car.This is NOT A KIT CAR. Machiavelli purchased brand new Pontiac Firebird Trans Am's and then blueprinted the V8 high performance engines, had Herb Adams (who did the suspension on the original Cobra's suspensions) rework the Trans Am suspension. Then the Ferrari designed type body was installed on the Trans Am chassis by trained craftsmen. The front end is steel except for the bonnet, which has original Ferrari steel air intakes. The entire rear end is steel with the exception of the rear hatch, which is fitted with steel Ferrari engine air vents. The front and rear bumpers are original Ferrari equipment. The car is fitted with burled walnut dash and Recaro tan leather seats. The transmission is General Motors 4 speed automatic with overdrive. The wheel are 16 x 8 aluminum. The car is FULL POWER: steering, brakes, seats, windows, door locks, delay wipers, am-fm disk player, cruise control, 2 rear fold up seats, electric trunk lock and release, electric adjustable mirrors, glass targa-top removable roof and the list goes on and on. PLEASE don't confuse this automobile with the little Fiero fiberglass kit cars.This is a FACTORY PRODUCTION AUTOMOBILE installed on a brand new General Motors chassis. When Machiavelli sold these cars in the late 1980s they cost over $35,000 and they were sold with a 2 year 24,000 mile warranty from General Motors on the entire drive train. The price includes WA rego and at less than half the cost of a 308
Thanks Machiavelli for your help ! Next step : # 9600, please. Thanks.
Very good!
+23
9600:MALEVEZ & VACHER
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 07, 2014, 03:27:44 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 12:59:23 PM
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Correct.
+31
8351, PLEASE
KAUHSEN
Kauhsen was a Formula One constructor from Germany, founded by former sportscar driver Willi Kauhsen. The team started in Formula Two in 1976, purchasing Renault cars, and raced with an assortment of drivers with limited success. Kauhsen then entered the 1979 Formula One season, spending 1978 designing their own chassis with Cosworth engines. They participated in two World Championship Grands Prix with Gianfranco Brancatelli, failing to qualify on both occasions, before the team was shut down.
The Kauhsen organization is also referred to in such glowing terms as "one of F1's most abysmal efforts".
Yes!
+22
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Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 07:34:12 AM
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11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Not that.
I put them in chronological order, if they are the same, I usually put the shorter one first (but it's not always like that).
A good suggestion, in this case, would be to use the 1st hint, the time range.
I have them in chronological order too, and offered the third on that basis. My next offering assumes you have three, not four, and is the electric car of that name made in 1959 by the Nic-L-Silver Battery Co of Santa Ana, California - not my period, so I know very little about it.
If wrong, time range hint please.
Not that.
This PIONEER was built in 1898.
Well I have the Australian Horseless Carriage Syndicate of Melbourne, probably the first i.c. engined car to be built in Australia, as 1897 but what's a year between friends?
If wrong, I give up and will try
4050
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: Allan L on January 07, 2014, 07:34:12 AM
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11950 please, if right.
Right!
+22
11950:PIONEER (3)
Well I have four Pioneers and cannot say which order you have them in, but first I'll try:
In 1914 the American Manufacturing Co of Chicago built a cyclecar with friction and belt drive from a 2-cylinder engine.
Not that.
I put them in chronological order, if they are the same, I usually put the shorter one first (but it's not always like that).
A good suggestion, in this case, would be to use the 1st hint, the time range.
I have them in chronological order too, and offered the third on that basis. My next offering assumes you have three, not four, and is the electric car of that name made in 1959 by the Nic-L-Silver Battery Co of Santa Ana, California - not my period, so I know very little about it.
If wrong, time range hint please.
Not that.
This PIONEER was built in 1898.
Well I have the Australian Horseless Carriage Syndicate of Melbourne, probably the first i.c. engined car to be built in Australia, as 1897 but what's a year between friends?
If wrong, I give up and will try
4050
;D
I'll have to ask Mr. Patrick Sullivan from Detroit, Michigan...he shouldn't have gone too far with his Runabout. ;)
4050:CWB
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
11830:PHAETON COACH
From 1977 to 1982 the Phaeton Coach Corporation, 2339 Inwood Road, Dallas, Texas manufactured stretched Lincoln limousines: The "Presidential" Limousine on a 36 inch stretch, the "Formal Sedan" with a 14 inch stretch and the "Princess" Executive Limousine with a 8 inch roof stretch.
If I'm right, for my next number can I try 3180 please?
9600:MALEVEZ & VACHER
Did you mean MALEVAL & VACHEZ ? If so, next step will be # 9700. Thanks.
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
11830:PHAETON COACH
From 1977 to 1982 the Phaeton Coach Corporation, 2339 Inwood Road, Dallas, Texas manufactured stretched Lincoln limousines: The "Presidential" Limousine on a 36 inch stretch, the "Formal Sedan" with a 14 inch stretch and the "Princess" Executive Limousine with a 8 inch roof stretch.
If I'm right, for my next number can I try 3180 please?
Yes!
+21
3180:CHEVROLET ARGENTINA
Quote from: pguillem on January 07, 2014, 04:09:46 PM
9600:MALEVEZ & VACHER
Did you mean MALEVAL & VACHEZ ? If so, next step will be # 9700. Thanks.
I think this is how it's written in Georgano's Encyclopedia...woodinsight should have the same name:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=17446.25
and João's Maleval & Vacher is another variant.
Malevez & Vacher,
Maleval & Vachez or
Maleval & Vacher?
In the meantime +22
9700:MARDAL
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
3180:CHEVROLET ARGENTINA
Chevrolet cars have been manufacured or assembled in Argentina on and off from 1925 to date with breaks in production from 1942 to 1946 and from 1978 to 1995 when a new factory was opened in Rosario.
Vehicles produced have been local versions of Chevrolets, Opels and Suzuki Vitaras
The main manufacturing company has been GM Argentina SA, Buenos Aires
Argentina is Chevrolet's seventh largest market.
For my next number can I try 15551 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 04:28:29 PM
9700:MARDAL
This Italian sports car manufacturer ? If it is, please # 9800. Thanks.
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 04:11:53 PM
3180:CHEVROLET ARGENTINA
Chevrolet cars have been manufacured or assembled in Argentina on and off from 1925 to date with breaks in production from 1942 to 1946 and from 1978 to 1995 when a new factory was opened in Rosario.
Vehicles produced have been local versions of Chevrolets, Opels and Suzuki Vitaras
The main manufacturing company has been GM Argentina SA, Buenos Aires
Argentina is Chevrolet's seventh largest market.
For my next number can I try 15551 please
+37!
15551:VAUXHALL AUSTRALIA :bag:
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 07, 2014, 05:19:39 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:33:22 PM
Yes!
+22
8351, please. :)
8351:already taken... http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=27069.msg305969#msg305969 ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:22:47 PM
15551:VAUXHALL AUSTRALIA :bag:
From 1964 to 1966 Holden assembled and sold the Vauxhall Viva HA in Australia. In 1967 they replaced it with the Holden Torana
If that's right can I try 8010
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
9800:MARTIN (16)
Many Martins... May I have the first clue ?
BENTALL: Edmund Ernest Bentall built bis first prototype in the Maldon area, Essex, in 1904; it was an 8 hp bassa upon a Crypto chassis. The production lasted until 1913 and almost a hundred vehicles sere built. There is a survivor, recently restored.
My next choice is 11351, thank you.
Afraid I'll have to skip Tuck and move to 15102 instead.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: João on January 06, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
Vogt Autotechnik, Bad Neuenahr, Germany?
The german television ZDF ordered a number of Admiral and Kapitän Fastback-Sedans for their camera teams.
Next guess : 11.901
Yes!
+21
11901:PIERCAVE
I´m sorry... :P
My next guess : 5679
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:50:42 PM
;D
I'll have to ask Mr. Patrick Sullivan from Detroit, Michigan...he shouldn't have gone too far with his Runabout. ;)
4050:CWB
I have nothing of that sort, and can't think of a place to start looking so date range hint please.
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:22:47 PM
15551:VAUXHALL AUSTRALIA :bag:
From 1964 to 1966 Holden assembled and sold the Vauxhall Viva HA in Australia. In 1967 they replaced it with the Holden Torana
If that's right can I try 8010
I have slightly different info from the Beaulieu, but I won't be a nitpicker.
+29
8010:JAK
Quote from: pguillem on January 07, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
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9800:MARTIN (16)
Many Martins... May I have the first clue ?
1986-1996 circa.
Please not that those dates may be inaccurate, they change according to the source, but you have the right idea.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 07, 2014, 07:23:18 PM
BENTALL: Edmund Ernest Bentall built bis first prototype in the Maldon area, Essex, in 1904; it was an 8 hp bassa upon a Crypto chassis. The production lasted until 1913 and almost a hundred vehicles sere built. There is a survivor, recently restored.
My next choice is 11351, thank you.
Yes!
+26
11351: too close to your 11306
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 01:44:29 AM
Afraid I'll have to skip Tuck and move to 15102 instead.
Tuck Petroleum Motor Company from Brooklyn, New York built a 12hp Runabout powered by Kerosene, in 1904.
15102:TRABOLD
Quote from: João on January 08, 2014, 01:54:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 06, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: João on January 06, 2014, 01:46:47 PM
Vogt Autotechnik, Bad Neuenahr, Germany?
The german television ZDF ordered a number of Admiral and Kapitän Fastback-Sedans for their camera teams.
Next guess : 11.901
Yes!
+21
11901:PIERCAVE
I´m sorry... :P
My next guess : 5679
Pierre Cave, built a Citroen-based Coupe in 1962.
5679:FERRARI (1)
Quote from: Allan L on January 08, 2014, 03:38:47 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 03:50:42 PM
;D
I'll have to ask Mr. Patrick Sullivan from Detroit, Michigan...he shouldn't have gone too far with his Runabout. ;)
4050:CWB
I have nothing of that sort, and can't think of a place to start looking so date range hint please.
1927-1929
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:30:58 AM
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Yes!
+22
8351, please. :)
:-[ 8402
8402:KELVIN
The Kelvin Car 1905, built by the Bergius Car and Engine Company, 169 Finnieston Street, Glasgow. 4 cylinder 3 1/2" bore engine developing 16 Hp at 950 R.P.M.
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Yes!
+22
8351, please. :)
:-[ 8402
8402:KELVIN
The Kelvin Car 1905, built by the Bergius Car and Engine Company, 169 Finnieston Street, Glasgow. 4 cylinder 3 1/2" bore engine developing 16 Hp at 950 R.P.M.
Yes!
+21
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 01:44:29 AM
Afraid I'll have to skip Tuck and move to 15102 instead.
Tuck Petroleum Motor Company from Brooklyn, New York built a 12hp Runabout powered by Kerosene, in 1904.
15102:TRABOLD
This one?
Johnstown's Trabold Truck Co.
During the winter of 1897-98, Adam G. Trabold, a machinist at the Cambria Steel Co., built his first "Trabold" vehicle in the shed behind his Hill Street home in Conemaugh. It was a one-cylinder, gasoline engine "horseless carriage". Though there had been earlier steam powered automobiles, Trabold's car was the first combustible engine vehicle owned and operated in the county.
The Trabold Truck Manufacturing Company existed in Johnstown from 1910 to 1960. The first factory was on Railroad Street.
In the beginning, the company produced some automobiles and a fire engine for the Conemaugh Fire Co., but eventually Trabolt concentrated only on trucks and later only on truck bodies.
Locally, Trabold trucks and truck bodies were sold to Harris-Boyer Bakeries, the Johnstown Grocery Co. and South Fork Brewery.
Another factory was built in Ferndale in 1923, but was dismantled and moved to Sheridan Street during the 1930's.
At its peak in the 1920's, the company employed 15 workers and produced about 125 trucks per year. After 1932, Trabold only manufactured truck bodies, many of which were sold to White, Mack, Federal and International.
During WWII, the company was too small to compete for federal contracts and remained open as a repair shop. Adam Trabold died in 1947 and truck body manufacturing resumed under his three sons; Arnold, Karl and Victor until 1960.
Source: article by Donald J. Summar
Antique Automobile Magazine—1973.
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 01:44:29 AM
Afraid I'll have to skip Tuck and move to 15102 instead.
Tuck Petroleum Motor Company from Brooklyn, New York built a 12hp Runabout powered by Kerosene, in 1904.
15102:TRABOLD
This one?
Johnstown's Trabold Truck Co.
During the winter of 1897-98, Adam G. Trabold, a machinist at the Cambria Steel Co., built his first "Trabold" vehicle in the shed behind his Hill Street home in Conemaugh. It was a one-cylinder, gasoline engine "horseless carriage". Though there had been earlier steam powered automobiles, Trabold's car was the first combustible engine vehicle owned and operated in the county.
The Trabold Truck Manufacturing Company existed in Johnstown from 1910 to 1960. The first factory was on Railroad Street.
In the beginning, the company produced some automobiles and a fire engine for the Conemaugh Fire Co., but eventually Trabolt concentrated only on trucks and later only on truck bodies.
Locally, Trabold trucks and truck bodies were sold to Harris-Boyer Bakeries, the Johnstown Grocery Co. and South Fork Brewery.
Another factory was built in Ferndale in 1923, but was dismantled and moved to Sheridan Street during the 1930's.
At its peak in the 1920's, the company employed 15 workers and produced about 125 trucks per year. After 1932, Trabold only manufactured truck bodies, many of which were sold to White, Mack, Federal and International.
During WWII, the company was too small to compete for federal contracts and remained open as a repair shop. Adam Trabold died in 1947 and truck body manufacturing resumed under his three sons; Arnold, Karl and Victor until 1960.
Source: article by Donald J. Summar
Antique Automobile Magazine—1973.
Yes and A.G. trabold built another car around 1905 too!
+22
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 09:02:52 AM
Yes and A.G. trabold built another car around 1905 too!
+22
:)
5918 maybe?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
5918:FORCE
In this case I even have two possible makes, but first let's try Force Motors from India, which was known as Bajaj Tempo before.
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Yes!
+21
8453, please :)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: pguillem on January 07, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
9800:MARTIN (16)
Many Martins... May I have the first clue ?
1986-1996 circa.
Please not that those dates may be inaccurate, they change according to the source, but you have the right idea.
I was thinking of Martin Motors, but it doesn't fit the time range. Please give me #9870. Thanks
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
5918:FORCE
In this case I even have two possible makes, but first let's try Force Motors from India, which was known as Bajaj Tempo before.
Not that.
Quote from: pguillem on January 08, 2014, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:17:24 AM
Quote from: pguillem on January 07, 2014, 06:22:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
9800:MARTIN (16)
Many Martins... May I have the first clue ?
1986-1996 circa.
Please not that those dates may be inaccurate, they change according to the source, but you have the right idea.
I was thinking of Martin Motors, but it doesn't fit the time range. Please give me #9870. Thanks
Martin Automobiles (MArtin Productions) from Olonne-sur-Mer, builder of the TTM, Tiblury, a Cobra and Gt40 replica and the Matou.
9870: MASTRA
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 01:21:27 PM
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Yes!
+21
8453, please :)
KEYSTONE (2)
The Keystone was an American automobile manufactured from 1914 until 1915. Designed by Chas C. Snodgrass and built in Pittsburgh, it ran using a Rutenber 55 hp six engine. It was built on a 138 inch wheelbase.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 08, 2014, 01:47:33 PM
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Yes!
+21
8453, please :)
KEYSTONE (2)
The Keystone was an American automobile manufactured from 1914 until 1915. Designed by Chas C. Snodgrass and built in Pittsburgh, it ran using a Rutenber 55 hp six engine. It was built on a 138 inch wheelbase.
Yes!
+21
Great! :)
8504, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 01:20:27 PM
Not that.
Must be a British sports car maker then, Force Racing Cars from Staffordshire. Here is one of theirs: Force LM hillclimb car.
Quote from: faksta on January 08, 2014, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 01:20:27 PM
Not that.
Must be a British sports car maker then, Force Racing Cars from Staffordshire. Here is one of theirs: Force LM hillclimb car.
Not that. :-\
9870: MASTRA
This one ?
In 1935 Trojan tried to move upmarket with the Mastra Limousine (above); it was not a success, and their car production finished in 1937. They continued their commercial vehicle range: you can see, below, the Trojans available in 1950 when the Minimotor was also being produced. The 'Brooke Bond Tea' van was Trojan's most well-known vehicle; boys of a certain age would remember it as a Dinky Toy.
If it's OK, then #10110 please. Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 08, 2014, 02:49:32 PM
9870: MASTRA
This one ?
In 1935 Trojan tried to move upmarket with the Mastra Limousine (above); it was not a success, and their car production finished in 1937. They continued their commercial vehicle range: you can see, below, the Trojans available in 1950 when the Minimotor was also being produced. The 'Brooke Bond Tea' van was Trojan's most well-known vehicle; boys of a certain age would remember it as a Dinky Toy.
If it's OK, then #10110 please. Thanks.
that one!
+22
10110:MENUS-VAN HORN
I'd like to nave 4806, thank you.
10110:MENUS-VAN HORN
All I was able to find
The Menus-Van Horn Motor Company was indicated in a 1,902 trade journal as the manufacturer of an automobile. This probably was in error. The firm was in the auto accessories field. Early in 1903 Menus-Van Horn moved from its original location at 11 High Street in Boston to 49 Galen Street in Waterloo, Massachusetts.
Is it true ? Anyway, my next guess will be for #10199. Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:15:11 AM
8010:JAK
The only JAK I can find is JAK Motorworks, 21 thornycroft Street, Campbelfield, Victoria, Australia who say they are car customisers. Maybe they produced a JAK custom car.
As I am probably wrong, can I try 4250 next please?
Quote from: pguillem on January 08, 2014, 03:20:33 PM
10110:MENUS-VAN HORN
All I was able to find
The Menus-Van Horn Motor Company was indicated in a 1,902 trade journal as the manufacturer of an automobile. This probably was in error. The firm was in the auto accessories field. Early in 1903 Menus-Van Horn moved from its original location at 11 High Street in Boston to 49 Galen Street in Waterloo, Massachusetts.
Is it true ? Anyway, my next guess will be for #10199. Thanks.
That's what I have too!
+21
10199: METZ (2)
Quote from: D-type on January 08, 2014, 03:21:40 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2014, 08:15:11 AM
8010:JAK
The only JAK I can find is JAK Motorworks, 21 thornycroft Street, Campbelfield, Victoria, Australia who say they are car customisers. Maybe they produced a JAK custom car.
As I am probably wrong, can I try 4250 next please?
Pro-Car Engineering from Katowice, Poland, took over Pro-Car's business and built the Nestor and the Majestic.
4250: too close to your 4300.
Just 1903.
Wise choice...
Kings County Automobile Company, incorporated in Brooklyn, New York in 1903.
8555:KLINGENBERG
Ferrari (1) : Ferrari S.p.A. is an Italian sports car manufacturer based in Maranello, Italy. ;D
10.142 please.
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 05:29:51 AM
Ferrari (1) : Ferrari S.p.A. is an Italian sports car manufacturer based in Maranello, Italy. ;D
10.142 please.
Yes! 20+555
10142:MERKEL (1)
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
+23
12934:ROLLSMOBILE :shiner:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
+23
12934:ROLLSMOBILE :shiner:
Rollsmobile : Starts Manufacturing Company in Fort Lauderdale (Florida), 1958-1960 : Oldsmobile Curved Dash and Ford replicas.
Next : 493 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 03:58:58 AM
4250: too close to your 4300.
My calculator says 4300-4250 = 50 which I thought met the rules
Can I change to 4249 which is 51 away from 4300?
Quote from: D-type on January 09, 2014, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 03:58:58 AM
4250: too close to your 4300.
My calculator says 4300-4250 = 50 which I thought met the rules
Can I change to 4249 which is 51 away from 4300?
You can keep your calculator, then, it works good. ;D
..but the rule is more than 50, and 51 is perfect.
4249:DE CRISTOFORIS
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 08:42:27 AM
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
+23
12934:ROLLSMOBILE :shiner:
Rollsmobile : Starts Manufacturing Company in Fort Lauderdale (Florida), 1958-1960 : Oldsmobile Curved Dash and Ford replicas.
Next : 493 please
+22!
493:AMECTRAN
Quote from: pguillem on January 09, 2014, 04:48:17 PM
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10199: METZ (2)
May I have the time range ?
Just 1909.
I can't find anything different from the Metz Company active from 1909 to 1921. May I have #11550 ? Thanks.
Not that.
This was a Minerva-engined 3-wheeler from Amsterdam.
11550:PARIS
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:12:48 PM
4249:DE CRISTOFORIS
I can't find anything apart from a carburettor
Can I try 1070 instead please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
11550:PARIS
Are you referring to the Symetric-Paris from 1953 ? My next choice will be #11600. Thanks.
Quote from: D-type on January 09, 2014, 06:02:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:12:48 PM
4249:DE CRISTOFORIS
I can't find anything apart from a carburettor
Can I try 1070 instead please
Luigi De Cristoforis's carbutrettor...he built a 'macchina igneo-pneumatica' in 1841 too, slightly off-topic here, but filed as well.
+21
1070:AUTECH (1)
Quote from: pguillem on January 09, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
11550:PARIS
Are you referring to the Symetric-Paris from 1953 ? My next choice will be #11600. Thanks.
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 04:59:08 AM
Wise choice...
Kings County Automobile Company, incorporated in Brooklyn, New York in 1903.
8555:KLINGENBERG
*sigh*
Another pass. I can find multiple references to an engine/axle he designed, but no car.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 04:59:08 AM
Wise choice...
Kings County Automobile Company, incorporated in Brooklyn, New York in 1903.
8555:KLINGENBERG
*sigh*
Another pass. I can find multiple references to an engine/axle he designed, but no car.
...it can be enough, tell me more. ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 01:14:02 PM
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Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
+23
12934:ROLLSMOBILE :shiner:
Rollsmobile : Starts Manufacturing Company in Fort Lauderdale (Florida), 1958-1960 : Oldsmobile Curved Dash and Ford replicas.
Next : 493 please
+22!
493:AMECTRAN
The Amectran Exar-1 was an electric car developed by Edmond X. Ramirez, Sr. in 1979. The car was described by Amectran to be the "world's first real production, electronic powered automobile". Pietro Frua bodied.
Next : 15670
Quote from: faksta on January 10, 2014, 08:02:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:34:55 AM
Not that.
I'll pass on this one then :(
This Force was a 7.5hp, built by C. P. McClellan from Fall River, Massachusetts around 1905.
Quote from: João on January 10, 2014, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 01:14:02 PM
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Quote from: João on January 09, 2014, 07:25:57 AM
:shiner:
Merkel (1) : MERKEL — Milwaukee, Wisconsin — (1905–1907) — Early in 1901 Joseph F. Merkel bought out the Layton Park Manufacturing Company in Milwaukee and moved his Merkel Manufacturing Company into the premises. Production of motors, bicycles and the "Flying Merkel" motorcycle followed — in September of 1904 he changed his firm's name to Merkel Motor Company and moved his enterprise into the automotive field.
Next : 12934 please.
+23
12934:ROLLSMOBILE :shiner:
Rollsmobile : Starts Manufacturing Company in Fort Lauderdale (Florida), 1958-1960 : Oldsmobile Curved Dash and Ford replicas.
Next : 493 please
+22!
493:AMECTRAN
The Amectran Exar-1 was an electric car developed by Edmond X. Ramirez, Sr. in 1979. The car was described by Amectran to be the "world's first real production, electronic powered automobile". Pietro Frua bodied.
Next : 15670
Yes!
+21
15670:VICTORIOSA
Ducroiset & Fils, Grenoble 1897-1900.
My next choise is 4350...(just to see if D-Type is luckier in choosing the right numbers more than I'm unlucky)
Yes!
+21
4350:DEHART
Quote from: targhediferro on January 10, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
Ducroiset & Fils, Grenoble 1897-1900.
My next choise is 4350...(just to see if D-Type is luckier in choosing the right numbers more than I'm unlucky)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 09:48:48 AM
Yes!
+21
4350:DEHART
As I was afraid...I'm unluckier (I've cut myself out from Delage and Delahaye chances)
I can´t find... #1025 please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 06:52:42 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 04:59:08 AM
Wise choice...
Kings County Automobile Company, incorporated in Brooklyn, New York in 1903.
8555:KLINGENBERG
*sigh*
Another pass. I can find multiple references to an engine/axle he designed, but no car.
..it can be enough, tell me more. ;)
"The one real novelty in this line is the device of Professor Klingenberg, exhibited by the Motor Babrik Pasig-Munich, in which the motor, inclosed (sic) in a dust-proof sheath, rests upon and is geared directly to the rear axle of the carriage. The axle is in two sections, connected at the center by a complicated devise, the details of which are show in the foregoing cut, and which provide for differential motion as between the two hinder wheels and couplings for different rates of speed."
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:33:21 AM
Quote from: pguillem on January 09, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
11550:PARIS
Are you referring to the Symetric-Paris from 1953 ? My next choice will be #11600. Thanks.
Not that.
Is it the Breese Paris Teardrop Roadster from 1911 ? If it's not, I give up. Maybe #11810 ? Thanks.
Quote from: João on January 10, 2014, 10:09:37 AM
I can´t find... #1025 please.
Albert Bauer from Paris built few cars with that name in 1903.
1025:AUDREY
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 11:41:42 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 06:52:42 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 05:55:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 04:59:08 AM
Wise choice...
Kings County Automobile Company, incorporated in Brooklyn, New York in 1903.
8555:KLINGENBERG
*sigh*
Another pass. I can find multiple references to an engine/axle he designed, but no car.
..it can be enough, tell me more. ;)
"The one real novelty in this line is the device of Professor Klingenberg, exhibited by the Motor Babrik Pasig-Munich, in which the motor, inclosed (sic) in a dust-proof sheath, rests upon and is geared directly to the rear axle of the carriage. The axle is in two sections, connected at the center by a complicated devise, the details of which are show in the foregoing cut, and which provide for differential motion as between the two hinder wheels and couplings for different rates of speed."
I was looking for a date or a full name but it's the same man (I think).
Prof. Georg Klingenberg built a 'pioneer' car around 1898. There were a series of prototypes untill NAG arrived. All that according to a book but I suspect they were actually built by Allgemeiner Automobil-Gesellschaft Berlin GmbH.
+21
Quote from: pguillem on January 10, 2014, 12:51:05 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:33:21 AM
Quote from: pguillem on January 09, 2014, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
11550:PARIS
Are you referring to the Symetric-Paris from 1953 ? My next choice will be #11600. Thanks.
Not that.
Is it the Breese Paris Teardrop Roadster from 1911 ? If it's not, I give up. Maybe #11810 ? Thanks.
Not that.
Some HUGOT cars were built under licence as Paris around 1899.
11810: PETREL
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
8606:KOEHLER
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
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My next would be 120. thanks
120:ACT
Uh, you can't google that, can you :)? If my memory serves me right this was a French kitcar company in the 1990s. If not, then I pass and go for 9842
Not that: ACT Engineering from Billingshurst built the MR-Z a sort of Datsun-based Ferrari Replica
9842:MASCOT (2)
Hey Pal, are you still in?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:32:36 AM
1070:AUTECH (1)
Autech Japan Inc, 824-2, Hagisono, Chigasaki-shi, Kanagawa 253-8571, Japan
A Nissan subsidiary producing converted vehicles on a Nissan platform which they describe as : Specialty vehicles (luxury and sporting cars), Life Care vehicles (wheelchair and other disabled transport), Work-use vehicles (mobile offices and broadcasting vehicles)
Can I try 4354 next please
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:32:36 AM
1070:AUTECH (1)
Autech Japan Inc, 824-2, Hagisono, Chigasaki-shi, Kanagawa 253-8571, Japan
A Nissan subsidiary producing converted vehicles on a Nissan platform which they describe as : Specialty vehicles (luxury and sporting cars), Life Care vehicles (wheelchair and other disabled transport), Work-use vehicles (mobile offices and broadcasting vehicles)
Not that. :-\
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:32:36 AM
1070:AUTECH (1)
Autech Japan Inc, 824-2, Hagisono, Chigasaki-shi, Kanagawa 253-8571, Japan
A Nissan subsidiary producing converted vehicles on a Nissan platform which they describe as : Specialty vehicles (luxury and sporting cars), Life Care vehicles (wheelchair and other disabled transport), Work-use vehicles (mobile offices and broadcasting vehicles)
Not that. :-\
Autech AG, Wiesenweg 36, 5102 Rupperswil, Switzerland. Manufacturers of [rail] track maintenance plant
Right or wrong, can I try 4353 next please
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 02:52:16 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:32:36 AM
1070:AUTECH (1)
Autech Japan Inc, 824-2, Hagisono, Chigasaki-shi, Kanagawa 253-8571, Japan
A Nissan subsidiary producing converted vehicles on a Nissan platform which they describe as : Specialty vehicles (luxury and sporting cars), Life Care vehicles (wheelchair and other disabled transport), Work-use vehicles (mobile offices and broadcasting vehicles)
Not that. :-\
Autech AG, Wiesenweg 36, 5102 Rupperswil, Switzerland. Manufacturers of [rail] track maintenance plant
Right or wrong, can I try 4353 next please
Autech Classic cars from Bromsgrove, West Midlands, built a C-Type replica during the 80s.
4353:DEISNER
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
4353:DEISNER
Not a hope - it's not in my Gergano and Google etc confuse it with "DESIGNER"
Can I try 10098 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:15:16 PM
11900:PIERA
I can't find it. Please give me #12592 Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
8606:KOEHLER
After selling several models of automobiles in their stores since the turn of the century, the Koehler Sporting Goods Company in New York City decided in 1910 to build a better model car than what they were selling. They started building both cars and trucks under the name of Koehler. The Koehler automobile was a 40-horsepower, four-cylinder touring model on a 112-inch wheelbase. In 1913, the company dropped the automobile in favor of producing only trucks. They were made until 1923.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 09:21:34 AM
This Force was a 7.5hp, built by C. P. McClellan from Fall River, Massachusetts around 1905.
I supposed it could have been an early American or British car, but had no ideas beyond that.
OK, let's try #15080 then.
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 03:11:54 PM
4353:DEISNER
Not a hope - it's not in my Gergano and Google etc confuse it with "DESIGNER"
Can I try 10098 please
Karosseriewerk Deisner from Kothen coachbuilt some German cars (DUX, Presto, Audi,...) in the 20s.
10098:MEMPHIS
Quote from: pguillem on January 10, 2014, 03:34:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:15:16 PM
11900:PIERA
I can't find it. Please give me #12592 Thanks.
An obscure French 2CV of the 60s.
12592:RENAULT ARGENTINA
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
8606:KOEHLER
After selling several models of automobiles in their stores since the turn of the century, the Koehler Sporting Goods Company in New York City decided in 1910 to build a better model car than what they were selling. They started building both cars and trucks under the name of Koehler. The Koehler automobile was a 40-horsepower, four-cylinder touring model on a 112-inch wheelbase. In 1913, the company dropped the automobile in favor of producing only trucks. They were made until 1923.
Perfect!
+21
Quote from: faksta on January 10, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 09:21:34 AM
This Force was a 7.5hp, built by C. P. McClellan from Fall River, Massachusetts around 1905.
I supposed it could have been an early American or British car, but had no ideas beyond that.
OK, let's try #15080 then.
15080: too close to your 15102
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
12592:RENAULT ARGENTINA
Renault partnered with Industrias Kaiser Argentina, a company created by Kaiser-Frazer Automobile Corporation and the Argentinean government, which had a factory in Santa Isabel, Córdoba and a network of smaller factories around the country. In 1967, Renault took control of Industrias Kaiser Argentina by acquiring a majority stake, renaming it IKA Renault SAICF. In 1970, Renault purchased the remaining company's shares, introducing in 1971 one of its most popular cars in the Argentinean market, the Renault 12. In 1975, the French automaker renamed its operations again, this time as Renault Argentina SA
#12650, please. Thanks
Quote from: pguillem on January 10, 2014, 04:59:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:41:46 PM
12592:RENAULT ARGENTINA
Renault partnered with Industrias Kaiser Argentina, a company created by Kaiser-Frazer Automobile Corporation and the Argentinean government, which had a factory in Santa Isabel, Córdoba and a network of smaller factories around the country. In 1967, Renault took control of Industrias Kaiser Argentina by acquiring a majority stake, renaming it IKA Renault SAICF. In 1970, Renault purchased the remaining company's shares, introducing in 1971 one of its most popular cars in the Argentinean market, the Renault 12. In 1975, the French automaker renamed its operations again, this time as Renault Argentina SA
#12650, please. Thanks
+29!
12650:REVILLE
10098:MEMPHIS
I'm sorry I haven't a clue
Can I see if I have more luck with #1703 please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
8606:KOEHLER
After selling several models of automobiles in their stores since the turn of the century, the Koehler Sporting Goods Company in New York City decided in 1910 to build a better model car than what they were selling. They started building both cars and trucks under the name of Koehler. The Koehler automobile was a 40-horsepower, four-cylinder touring model on a 112-inch wheelbase. In 1913, the company dropped the automobile in favor of producing only trucks. They were made until 1923.
Perfect!
+21
8657, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 05:12:45 PM
12650:REVILLE
Reville Motor Co.; Brisbane, Queensland; Australia ?
#12701, please.
No results..... :thumbsdown:
Next please : 12591
Quote from: D-type on January 10, 2014, 06:33:24 PM
10098:MEMPHIS
I'm sorry I haven't a clue
Can I see if I have more luck with #1703 please
Memphis Motor Carriage Company from Memphis, Tennessee, built a steamer in 1904.
1703:BEETLE FLYER
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 07:34:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 04:43:13 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 10, 2014, 02:09:11 PM
The article I pulled that from was from 1902. It was close to 1903, but I though it might not be the right guy. Three different publications had the same story; none included his first name. Maybe I'll look some more over the weekend.
Thanks for giving me a second go at it. :)
8606, please.
8606:KOEHLER
After selling several models of automobiles in their stores since the turn of the century, the Koehler Sporting Goods Company in New York City decided in 1910 to build a better model car than what they were selling. They started building both cars and trucks under the name of Koehler. The Koehler automobile was a 40-horsepower, four-cylinder touring model on a 112-inch wheelbase. In 1913, the company dropped the automobile in favor of producing only trucks. They were made until 1923.
Perfect!
+21
8657, please
8657:KRAMER
Quote from: João on January 10, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
No results..... :thumbsdown:
Next please : 12591
Audrey Motors Corporation from New York, was incorporated in 1920
12591:RENAULT
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:37:53 AM
1703:BEETLE FLYER
Difficult to find as search engines are full of VW's
Is it a renamed Briggs and Stratton Flyer, an electric buggy for kids from the early 20th century?
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 07:32:47 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:37:53 AM
1703:BEETLE FLYER
Difficult to find as search engines are full of VW's
Is it a renamed Briggs and Stratton Flyer, an electric buggy for kids from the early 20th century?
Not that. It predates VW and Briggs & Stratton.
I've no further ideas on this one. Can I try 2553 instead please..
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 08:34:38 AM
I've no further ideas on this one. Can I try 2553 instead please..
Built by Fordea-Malott Manufacturing Company from Noblesville, Indiana, it was a buggy from 1909.
2553:BUGATTI (3)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
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2553:BUGATTI (3)
Is this perhaps Volkswagen subsidiary, Bugatti SAS of Molsheim, producers of the Veyron since 1999 and Galibier since 2009?
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
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2553:BUGATTI (3)
Is this perhaps Volkswagen subsidiary, Bugatti SAS of Molsheim, producers of the Veyron since 1999 and Galibier since 2009?
Not that...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
[
2553:BUGATTI (3)
Is this perhaps Volkswagen subsidiary, Bugatti SAS of Molsheim, producers of the Veyron since 1999 and Galibier since 2009?
Not that...
Bugatt--Gulinelli from 1901-1903?
Right or wrong, can I try 9301 next please.
incidentally, is your database strictly
makes and not
models e.g Would a Ford Prefect appear under "Ford UK" and a Lincoln-Mercury Comet appear under "Lincoln Mercury" although both Lincoln and Mercury are/were Ford owned
brands
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 09:20:09 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 08:56:21 AM
[
2553:BUGATTI (3)
Is this perhaps Volkswagen subsidiary, Bugatti SAS of Molsheim, producers of the Veyron since 1999 and Galibier since 2009?
Not that...
Bugatt--Gulinelli from 1901-1903?
Right or wrong, can I try 9301 next please.
incidentally, is your database strictly makes and not models e.g Would a Ford Prefect appear under "Ford UK" and a Lincoln-Mercury Comet appear under "Lincoln Mercury" although both Lincoln and Mercury are/were Ford owned brands
If I understood your question, I have the 'Perfect' model under 'Ford UK' maker, and 'Comet' under 'Mercury (xx)'.
In the notes about 'Ford UK' and 'Mercury' I put the ownership of those brands.
About Bugatti, would you like to reconsider your guess according to that (and to the previous answers you can find on pag.1)?
The question was more for general clarification rather than related to this one. Clearly "Bugatti-Gulinelli" will be a different make from "Bugatti" so my guess is wrong.
Can I move on to try 9301 please?
Sure...
We already had Bugatti (1),the famous one, and (2), the british replica.
Bugatti (3), in my index, is the Italian venture (Bugatti Automobili SpA, Campogalliano, Modena) the unfortunate one that produced the EB110 in its various versions and prototypes.
9301:LONE STAR (1)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 11:06:20 AM
9301:LONE STAR (1)
Might that be the Lycoming engined cars made by the Piedmont Motor Company of Lynchburg, Virginia in 1920-21 for The Lone Star Truck and Tractor Corp, San Antonio, Texas who sold them as "Lone Star"?
Right or wrong can I try 9352 next please?
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 11:06:20 AM
9301:LONE STAR (1)
Might that be the Lycoming engined cars made by the Piedmont Motor Company of Lynchburg, Virginia in 1920-21 for The Lone Star Truck and Tractor Corp, San Antonio, Texas who sold them as "Lone Star"?
Right or wrong can I try 9352 next please?
Yes!
+23
9352:LOUISELL
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
9352:LOUISELL
Chevrolet Camaro based replicas of Knight Rider's KITT by Louisell Enterprises, Mount Pleasant, Michigan USA. Produced from 1989 to date?
Right or wrong, can I try 13023 next please?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:42:10 AM
12701:RIBBLE
Is it Ribble Kits & Classics, Creator of the Ribble Colani GT ? Then, #12935 please. Thanks.
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Not that.
Is it your answer to my last message ? If so, I'll try the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder (1966), a replica of the Lancia D24 Le Mans based on a Triumph Herald 1200.
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Not that.
Is it your answer to my last message ? If so, I'll try the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder (1966), a replica of the Lancia D24 Le Mans based on a Triumph Herald 1200.
Oh my...I quote the guesses in my replies 98% of times and the one I don't, I miss a reply!
Sorry about that and yes, it was for your last guess.
And it's not the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder.
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
9352:LOUISELL
Chevrolet Camaro based replicas of Knight Rider's KITT by Louisell Enterprises, Mount Pleasant, Michigan USA. Produced from 1989 to date?
Right or wrong, can I try 13023 next please?
Yes! That and the Banshee.
+22
13023:ROWAN
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Not that.
Is it your answer to my last message ? If so, I'll try the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder (1966), a replica of the Lancia D24 Le Mans based on a Triumph Herald 1200.
Oh my...I quote the guesses in my replies 98% of times and the one I don't, I miss a reply!
Sorry about that and yes, it was for your last guess.
And it's not the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder.
As I doubt that it is the Ribble Motor Services -a buses company-, I'll leave it and try #12935. Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:45:07 AM
Quote from: João on January 10, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
No results..... :thumbsdown:
Next please : 12591
Audrey Motors Corporation from New York, was incorporated in 1920
12591:RENAULT
Renault : The Renault corporation was founded in 1899 as Société Renault Frères by Louis Renault and his brothers Marcel and Fernand. The company produces a range of cars and vans, and in the past, trucks, tractors, tanks, buses/coaches and autorail vehicles.
Next number #4357 please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 01:57:15 PM
13023:ROWAN
The Giugero designed Ghia built electric hatchback that appeared at the 1967 Turin Motor Show
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 01:54:24 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
Not that.
Is it your answer to my last message ? If so, I'll try the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder (1966), a replica of the Lancia D24 Le Mans based on a Triumph Herald 1200.
Oh my...I quote the guesses in my replies 98% of times and the one I don't, I miss a reply!
Sorry about that and yes, it was for your last guess.
And it's not the Sammio Ribble Pilot Spyder.
As I doubt that it is the Ribble Motor Services -a buses company-, I'll leave it and try #12935. Thanks.
Jackson & Kennings from Southport, Lancashire, built a couple of tricycles and 2 bigger four in 1904-1906.
12935:ROLLS ROYCE OF AMERICA
Quote from: João on January 11, 2014, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:45:07 AM
Quote from: João on January 10, 2014, 09:57:32 PM
No results..... :thumbsdown:
Next please : 12591
Audrey Motors Corporation from New York, was incorporated in 1920
12591:RENAULT
Renault : The Renault corporation was founded in 1899 as Société Renault Frères by Louis Renault and his brothers Marcel and Fernand. The company produces a range of cars and vans, and in the past, trucks, tractors, tanks, buses/coaches and autorail vehicles.
Next number #4357 please.
Yes!
20+619: 1580
You reached your goal with 33 numbers.
Quote from: D-type on January 11, 2014, 02:34:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 01:57:15 PM
13023:ROWAN
The Giugero designed Ghia built electric hatchback that appeared at the 1967 Turin Motor Show
Yes.
+21
Joao, you can quit palying now and see if anyone reaches you.
For Ropat53, Tom_I, D-Type and Targhediferro the game is over. :-\
Active players are
Arunas: 4 more numbers to try,
Pguillem: 9
Otto Puzzell: 11
Pnegyesi: 16
Allan L and Faksta: 25
I'm updating this list too so it may be unaccurate now.
Arunas tried 29 numbers and scored 556. Last active on this game was January 05.
Last number was 11090:NMC.
You have 4 more tries to score more than 1024. (1024+556=1580)
Pguillem tried 31 numbers and scored 421. Last active today.
Last number was 15710:VINCENT (2)
You have 2 more tries.
Otto Puzzell tried 24 numbers and scored 309. Last active today.
Last number was 8759:LA POINTE SIMPLEX
You have 10 more tries.
Faksta tried 8 numbers and scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
You have 12 more tries to spot a top maker
You have 25 more tries to score more than 1509
I'd like you to post at least once a day to keep this game going at a reasonable pace. Please, advise if you are not able or you want to quit.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 03:58:38 PM
12935:ROLLS ROYCE OF AMERICA
It was not long after Rolls-Royce started as a commercial venture that its leaders looked toward the United States – first as a fertile market for the sale of their motorcars and then soon afterwards as a place to manufacture the motorcars. World War I temporarily interrupted those plans but soon thereafter Claude Johnson returned to America. The reasons were straightforward: 1) America was the most important car market in the world buying more cars than the rest of the world combined, 2) US duty taxes on imported cars was indeed high resulting in high prices and fewer sales, 3) the British plant had a huge backlog trying to keep pace with pent up demand following the war 4) the long delays in shipping cars across the Atlantic. Springfield was chosen as a site for similarly logistical reasons – potential cost savings and quick access to the best US markets. In 1919, the company incorporated as Rolls-Royce of America and acquired its first US manufacturing plant in Springfield, Massachusetts. Production began the following year. By 1923, Rolls-Royce presence in the U.S. was substantial. Rolls-Royce of America Inc. manufactured nearly 3000 Silver Ghosts and Phantoms before succumbing to the Great Depression. To this day, Springfield is the only place outside England that Rolls-Royce cars have ever been built.
Heading for #13000, please. Thanks
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 05:14:07 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 03:58:38 PM
12935:ROLLS ROYCE OF AMERICA
It was not long after Rolls-Royce started as a commercial venture that its leaders looked toward the United States – first as a fertile market for the sale of their motorcars and then soon afterwards as a place to manufacture the motorcars. World War I temporarily interrupted those plans but soon thereafter Claude Johnson returned to America. The reasons were straightforward: 1) America was the most important car market in the world buying more cars than the rest of the world combined, 2) US duty taxes on imported cars was indeed high resulting in high prices and fewer sales, 3) the British plant had a huge backlog trying to keep pace with pent up demand following the war 4) the long delays in shipping cars across the Atlantic. Springfield was chosen as a site for similarly logistical reasons – potential cost savings and quick access to the best US markets. In 1919, the company incorporated as Rolls-Royce of America and acquired its first US manufacturing plant in Springfield, Massachusetts. Production began the following year. By 1923, Rolls-Royce presence in the U.S. was substantial. Rolls-Royce of America Inc. manufactured nearly 3000 Silver Ghosts and Phantoms before succumbing to the Great Depression. To this day, Springfield is the only place outside England that Rolls-Royce cars have ever been built.
Heading for #13000, please. Thanks
Perfect!
20+45
13000:ROTHSCHILD & COMPANY
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
13000:ROTHSCHILD & COMPANY
The April 19, 1906 issue of The Automobile provided the address of Audineau/Rothschild's Manhattan factory:
"F. Rothschild, the Parisian builder of automobile bodies, has established an American factory at 530 West Twenty-seventh street, New York City, where he has forty men at work under a French superintendent. The business is in process of incorporation by M. J. Rothschild, son of the house, under the home title of Rothschild et Cie. J. R. Chisholm, who at one time imported the Decauville car, is interested in the business management."
The April 20, 1906 issue of the New York Times listed the firm under its New York Incorporation listings for April 19, 1906:
"Rothschild & Co., New York, (automobiles); capital, $30,000. Directors - W. H. Mendel, M. J. Rothschild. N. D. Reich, New York."
Next one will be #13018. Thanks a lot,
Quote from: pguillem on January 11, 2014, 06:05:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
13000:ROTHSCHILD & COMPANY
The April 19, 1906 issue of The Automobile provided the address of Audineau/Rothschild's Manhattan factory:
"F. Rothschild, the Parisian builder of automobile bodies, has established an American factory at 530 West Twenty-seventh street, New York City, where he has forty men at work under a French superintendent. The business is in process of incorporation by M. J. Rothschild, son of the house, under the home title of Rothschild et Cie. J. R. Chisholm, who at one time imported the Decauville car, is interested in the business management."
The April 20, 1906 issue of the New York Times listed the firm under its New York Incorporation listings for April 19, 1906:
"Rothschild & Co., New York, (automobiles); capital, $30,000. Directors - W. H. Mendel, M. J. Rothschild. N. D. Reich, New York."
Next one will be #13018. Thanks a lot,
Wow, that was not easy.
+21
13018 too close to your 13000
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:39:35 AM
8657:KRAMER
Founded in 1925, Kramer-Werke GmbH is a manufacturer of compact construction machines, such as wheel loaders, tele wheel loaders and telehandlers located in Pfullendorf (Baden-Württemberg), Germany. It is part of the Wacker Neuson group.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 12, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:39:35 AM
8657:KRAMER
Founded in 1925, Kramer-Werke GmbH is a manufacturer of compact construction machines, such as wheel loaders, tele wheel loaders and telehandlers located in Pfullendorf (Baden-Württemberg), Germany. It is part of the Wacker Neuson group.
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 05:13:37 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 12, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:39:35 AM
8657:KRAMER
Founded in 1925, Kramer-Werke GmbH is a manufacturer of compact construction machines, such as wheel loaders, tele wheel loaders and telehandlers located in Pfullendorf (Baden-Württemberg), Germany. It is part of the Wacker Neuson group.
Not that.
Pass
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 12, 2014, 05:16:07 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 05:13:37 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 12, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 11, 2014, 04:39:35 AM
8657:KRAMER
Founded in 1925, Kramer-Werke GmbH is a manufacturer of compact construction machines, such as wheel loaders, tele wheel loaders and telehandlers located in Pfullendorf (Baden-Württemberg), Germany. It is part of the Wacker Neuson group.
Not that.
Pass
E.M. Kramer from Peoria, Illinois, built a steam car in 1920.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 05:17:05 AM
E.M. Kramer from Peoria, Illinois, built a steam car in 1920.
8708, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Around 1985. I know it's not that much. :-\
Is it the Royale Windsor ? If it is, I'll go back to #13650 Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Around 1985. I know it's not that much. :-\
Is it the Royale Windsor ? If it is, I'll go back to #13650 Thanks.
Not that.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Around 1985. I know it's not that much. :-\
Is it the Royale Windsor ? If it is, I'll go back to #13650 Thanks.
Not that.
I'm lost in neo-classics. Please give me #13650 Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 01:17:07 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 11:20:28 AM
Around 1985. I know it's not that much. :-\
Is it the Royale Windsor ? If it is, I'll go back to #13650 Thanks.
Not that.
I'm lost in neo-classics. Please give me #13650 Thanks.
Roy's Custom Fabrication from Bremen, Indiana built the Maxi-Taxi kit-car.
13650:SHELBY (2)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
13650:SHELBY (2)
This one ?
Shelby American was founded by Carroll Shelby in 1962 to build and market high performance parts and modified cars for individuals. The company was based at Santa Fe Springs, California (1962), Venice, California (1962–1967), Ionia, Michigan (1967–1968), Whittier, California (1986–1998) and Las Vegas, Nevada (since 1998).[5] Some of the automobiles produced by Shelby American were the Ford Mustang-based Shelby GT350 and Shelby GT500. Shelby American also installed the engines of US-market examples of the legendary AC Cobra which was an AC Ace with a Ford V8.
The company was also highly involved with racing, with Shelby cars winning many races and the first title for an American constructor at the World Sportscar Championship in 1965.[2] From 1965 to 1967, Shelby American also provided support to Ford for their successful campaign to win the 1966 24 Hours of Le Mans as historically the first American constructor ever with the mid-engined Ford GT40's. With Shelby Daytona, Shelby became one of only three American constructors (along with Ford and Chevrolet) to win a title on the international scene at the FIA World Championships.
If it is, then #13701, please. Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 05:46:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 04:05:43 PM
13650:SHELBY (2)
This one ?
Shelby American was founded by Carroll Shelby in 1962 to build and market high performance parts and modified cars for individuals. The company was based at Santa Fe Springs, California (1962), Venice, California (1962–1967), Ionia, Michigan (1967–1968), Whittier, California (1986–1998) and Las Vegas, Nevada (since 1998).[5] Some of the automobiles produced by Shelby American were the Ford Mustang-based Shelby GT350 and Shelby GT500. Shelby American also installed the engines of US-market examples of the legendary AC Cobra which was an AC Ace with a Ford V8.
The company was also highly involved with racing, with Shelby cars winning many races and the first title for an American constructor at the World Sportscar Championship in 1965.[2] From 1965 to 1967, Shelby American also provided support to Ford for their successful campaign to win the 1966 24 Hours of Le Mans as historically the first American constructor ever with the mid-engined Ford GT40's. With Shelby Daytona, Shelby became one of only three American constructors (along with Ford and Chevrolet) to win a title on the international scene at the FIA World Championships.
If it is, then #13701, please. Thanks.
yes!
20+58
13701:SHUANGHUAN
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
13701:SHUANGHUAN
Shuanghuan Auto (officially Shijiazhuang Shuanghuan Automobile Co., Ltd.) is a Chinese automobile manufacturer headquartered in Shijiazhuang, Hebei. It was established in April 1988 and acquired the state-owned automobile manufacturer Red Star in 2002.
Let's go to #15333 |
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
KURTIS (2)
Kurtis Kraft was an American designer and builder of race cars. The company built midget cars, quartermidgets, sports cars, sprint cars Bonneville Cars and USAC Championship Cars. It was founded by Frank Kurtis when he built his own midget car chassis in the late 1930s.
Quote from: pguillem on January 12, 2014, 08:20:40 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
13701:SHUANGHUAN
Shuanghuan Auto (officially Shijiazhuang Shuanghuan Automobile Co., Ltd.) is a Chinese automobile manufacturer headquartered in Shijiazhuang, Hebei. It was established in April 1988 and acquired the state-owned automobile manufacturer Red Star in 2002.
Let's go to #15333 |
Yes!
+24
15333: Very close to your 15334 ;D
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
KURTIS (2)
Kurtis Kraft was an American designer and builder of race cars. The company built midget cars, quartermidgets, sports cars, sprint cars Bonneville Cars and USAC Championship Cars. It was founded by Frank Kurtis when he built his own midget car chassis in the late 1930s.
Not that....
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 07:32:30 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
KURTIS (2)
Kurtis Kraft was an American designer and builder of race cars. The company built midget cars, quartermidgets, sports cars, sprint cars Bonneville Cars and USAC Championship Cars. It was founded by Frank Kurtis when he built his own midget car chassis in the late 1930s.
Not that....
Kurtis Sports Car Company, Glendale, CA 1953-1955
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 07:44:15 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 07:32:30 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 03:50:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 12, 2014, 12:04:02 PM
KURTIS (2)
Kurtis Kraft was an American designer and builder of race cars. The company built midget cars, quartermidgets, sports cars, sprint cars Bonneville Cars and USAC Championship Cars. It was founded by Frank Kurtis when he built his own midget car chassis in the late 1930s.
Not that....
Kurtis Sports Car Company, Glendale, CA 1953-1955
Not that, I put those 2 togheter, so I'll consider that as the same guess.
I guess I'll have to pass. :-\
You were nearly there.
I remind you all that a wrong guess is -3.
The time range clue is -1, the nationality is -1, the full name is -1 and the 4th clue is -1 as well. ;)
The Frank Kurtis Co. from Bakersfield, California, start building replicas of the 500s in 1992.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
15333: Very close to your 15334 ;D
I see : the 50 difference apply to all guesses, not the last one :bag: #15600 ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
You were nearly there.
I remind you all that a wrong guess is -3.
The time range clue is -1, the nationality is -1, the full name is -1 and the 4th clue is -1 as well. ;)
The Frank Kurtis Co. from Bakersfield, California, start building replicas of the 500s in 1992.
OK
Your list should include three Kurtis companies, as the sports car concern in the 50's was a separate entity from the race car company, though both were headed by the same person.
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 07:18:46 AM
15333: Very close to your 15334 ;D
I see : the 50 difference apply to all guesses, not the last one :bag: #15600 ?
...apply to all
your guesses. You can pick a number close to other player's ones.
15600:VERGA
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 09:11:23 AM
You were nearly there.
I remind you all that a wrong guess is -3.
The time range clue is -1, the nationality is -1, the full name is -1 and the 4th clue is -1 as well. ;)
The Frank Kurtis Co. from Bakersfield, California, start building replicas of the 500s in 1992.
OK
Your list should include three Kurtis companies, as the sports car concern in the 50's was a separate entity from the race car company, though both were headed by the same person.
Yes, I sometimes have to bend my rules for opportunity.
In this case I prefer to have all Kurtis' cars under the same 'roof' even if they are from different companies.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 09:39:20 AM
15600:VERGA
La Carrozzeria Verga fu fondata nel 1830 da Beniamino VERGA, bisnonno dell'attuale proprietario Simone VERGA. Nata come fabbrica di carri e carrettelle con lavorazione meccanica del legno e del ferro, si trasformò in seguito con il nonno Giovanni ed il fratello Galdino, in Carrozzeria per auto, camion e ribaltabili.
#15651 ? Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 09:39:20 AM
15600:VERGA
La Carrozzeria Verga fu fondata nel 1830 da Beniamino VERGA, bisnonno dell'attuale proprietario Simone VERGA. Nata come fabbrica di carri e carrettelle con lavorazione meccanica del legno e del ferro, si trasformò in seguito con il nonno Giovanni ed il fratello Galdino, in Carrozzeria per auto, camion e ribaltabili.
#15651 ? Thanks.
Yes!
+21
15651:VICKSTOW
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
15651:VICKSTOW
Vickers, Bristow & Co. (1913-1914); London; United Kingdom ?
Next #15710, please. Thanks
BTW, this game becomes to be very addictive :)
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
15651:VICKSTOW
Vickers, Bristow & Co. (1913-1914); London; United Kingdom ?
Next #15710, please. Thanks
BTW, this game becomes to be very addictive :)
Thank you...I'm glad you enjoy it!
It's a pity it's gonna end soon but I'm going to relax a bit, then.
15710:VINCENT (2)
+21
15710:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
BTW, this game becomes to be very addictive :)
Thank you...I'm glad you enjoy it!
It's a pity it's gonna end soon but I'm going to relax a bit, then.
15710:VINCENT (2)
+21
15710:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Thank you...I'm glad you enjoy it!
It's a pity it's gonna end soon but I'm going to relax a bit, then.
I fully agree with you. How do you manage your statistics ? :faint:
15710:VINCENT (2)
Let's try the first possibility :
The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, "The Vincent Bantam" was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased. Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.
Two questions remaining ? Next will be #15761 Thank you.
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 01:58:53 PM
BTW, this game becomes to be very addictive :)
Thank you...I'm glad you enjoy it!
It's a pity it's gonna end soon but I'm going to relax a bit, then.
15710:VINCENT (2)
+21
15710:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Thank you...I'm glad you enjoy it!
It's a pity it's gonna end soon but I'm going to relax a bit, then.
I fully agree with you. How do you manage your statistics ? :faint:
15710:VINCENT (2)
Let's try the first possibility :
The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, "The Vincent Bantam" was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased. Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.
Two questions remaining ? Next will be #15761 Thank you.
For the statistics, I've a long log of all your guesses-clues-numbers etc that I update in the same time I reply.
The ones I post are sometimes not updated.
About your guess, it's not my VINCENT (2).
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
About your guess, it's not my VINCENT (2).
Second guess : Vincent MPH Historic Replica Cars ?
Next will be #15761 Thank you.
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 03:38:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
About your guess, it's not my VINCENT (2).
Second guess : Vincent MPH Historic Replica Cars ?
Next will be #15761 Thank you.
Not that.
I've hit a dry spell...
8759, please
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 04:49:53 PM
I've hit a dry spell...
8759, please
8759:LA POINTE SIMPLEX
Pguillem tried 31 numbers and scored 421. Last active today.
Last number was 15710:VINCENT (2)
You have 2 more tries.
Otto Puzzell tried 24 numbers and scored 309. Last active today.
Last number was 8759:LA POINTE SIMPLEX
You have 9 more tries.
Faksta tried 8 numbers and scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
You have 12 more tries to spot a top maker
You have 25 more tries to score more than 1580.
Finally, an easy one! ;)
LA POINTE SIMPLEX — Hancock, Michigan — (1903) — The La Pointe Simplex was built in Hancock by the Hodge Iron Company, makers of brass and iron castings. It had been designed by C.J. Costelle and N.M. Benson of Chicago. Charles J. Hodge put up the money for the building of the prototype. It was a small 8 hp runabout with shaft drive, selective sliding gear transmission, wood wheels and a Mercedes-type radiator. Its projected price tag was $750. Local Houghton County capitalists were interested in the project, and it was announced that if the "sample proves satisfactory," Charles Hodge would organize a company for manufacture. No such company ensued, and no reason ever was given for the curious name of the car.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 13, 2014, 05:08:21 PM
Finally, an easy one! ;)
LA POINTE SIMPLEX — Hancock, Michigan — (1903) — The La Pointe Simplex was built in Hancock by the Hodge Iron Company, makers of brass and iron castings. It had been designed by C.J. Costelle and N.M. Benson of Chicago. Charles J. Hodge put up the money for the building of the prototype. It was a small 8 hp runabout with shaft drive, selective sliding gear transmission, wood wheels and a Mercedes-type radiator. Its projected price tag was $750. Local Houghton County capitalists were interested in the project, and it was announced that if the "sample proves satisfactory," Charles Hodge would organize a company for manufacture. No such company ensued, and no reason ever was given for the curious name of the car.
Perfect!
+21
Pguillem 31 numbers. Score: 421
Last number: 15710:VINCENT (2)
2 more numbers to try.
Otto Puzzell 24 numbers. Score: 330
Last number: 8759:LA POINTE SIMPLEX
9 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
8810, please
Quote from: pguillem on January 13, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
Not that.
I'd better go to #15761. Thank you.
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.
15761:VLACHOS
Pguillem 32 numbers. Score: 411
Last number: 15761:VLACHOS
1 more numbers to try.
Otto Puzzell 24 numbers. Score: 330
Last number: 8759:LA POINTE SIMPLEX
9 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 14, 2014, 04:20:41 AM
8810, please
8810: LAIDLAW ELECTRIC
Pguillem 32 numbers. Score: 411
Last number: 15761:VLACHOS
1 more numbers to try.
Otto Puzzell 25 numbers. Score: 330
Last number: 8810:LAIDLAW ELECTRIC
8 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.
This company was what I had in mind with my first guess. On 3-wheelers.com site, the 1955 Vincent prototype is associated with it
"
The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, "The Vincent Bantam" was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased. Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.
In 1954 / 1955 in Stevenage. (UK) a one off prototype Vincent 3-wheeler was produced. The vehicle was powered by a Vincent Rapide 998cc engine and was unofficially named "Polyphemus*" by its previous owner Roy Harper. Before this the vehicle had the name "Locomotion. The names were as a result of the single large cooling opening in the nose panel. This duct ran from the orifice at the front of the body, directly onto the front cylinder of the engine. Additional vents at the side of the Vincent helped cool down the engine further."
Anyway.
15761:VLACHOS
I just found the Tri-Phibian, an amphibious air-powered venicle which couls also fly. It was created in 1935 by Constantinos Vlachos, who had great problems with the US patent office.
Last number : #16388. Thanks a lot !
Patrick
Quote from: pguillem on January 14, 2014, 10:52:07 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 07:20:36 AM
Vincent Engineers (Stevenage) Ltd, Stevenage, Hertfordshire built a 3-wheeler in 1955.
This company was what I had in mind with my first guess. On 3-wheelers.com site, the 1955 Vincent prototype is associated with it
"The Vincent motorcycle company was founded in the late 1920s by Phil Vincent and it was in 1932 that their first 3-wheeler, "The Vincent Bantam" was first introduced. Powered by a 293cc SV JAP engine (later to be replaced by a 250cc Villiers engine) the vehicle was a 2.5 cwt delivery van which unusually used a car type seat and steering wheel rather than a motorcycle saddle and handlebars favoured by some 3-wheelers produced by motorcycle manufacturers. The standard van was priced at £57-10- 0 though for a extra £5-10- 0 a windscreen and hood could be purchased. Production of the Bantam ceased in the mid 1930s.
In 1954 / 1955 in Stevenage. (UK) a one off prototype Vincent 3-wheeler was produced. The vehicle was powered by a Vincent Rapide 998cc engine and was unofficially named "Polyphemus*" by its previous owner Roy Harper. Before this the vehicle had the name "Locomotion. The names were as a result of the single large cooling opening in the nose panel. This duct ran from the orifice at the front of the body, directly onto the front cylinder of the engine. Additional vents at the side of the Vincent helped cool down the engine further."
Anyway.
15761:VLACHOS
I just found the Tri-Phibian, an amphibious air-powered venicle which couls also fly. It was created in 1935 by Constantinos Vlachos, who had great problems with the US patent office.
Last number : #16388. Thanks a lot !
Patrick
Now I see, but in your reply there was not a single line about 'Vincent Engineers', 'Stevenage' or '1955' that were some of the key words I associated with Vincent (2).
In my index there was nothing about 'Bantam' ' Phil Vincent' or a '293cc JAP engine'. There was just the 1000cc one....
...BUT...
you are right, in my HD I had them togheter (but I can't double check there too!) and my source, the Beaulieu, reports briefly that Phil Vincent was the founder.
Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 14, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 07:27:54 AM
8810: LAIDLAW ELECTRIC
Pass
8861, please
James Laidlaw from Jersey City, New Jersey, built a motor sleigh in 1903.
8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)
Pguillem 33 numbers. Score: 470
Last number: 16388:WOLF (1)
Otto Puzzell 26 numbers. Score: 320
Last number: 8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)
7 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71. Last active January 10.
No last number.
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)
Thank you. May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
I'm back with #5713 - a jackpot either for me or for one of the remaining players :D
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)
I hope it's this one :)
From the 1907 Olympia Industrial Vehicle Show:
Lancaster Motor Garage. Lancaster Gate W, Stand 63
This firm exhibits three vehicles of the smaller class, and a class that is destined to become a very large one. That is, it is no novice at the business is shown by one of the cars, which has been running for some 18 months, doing the firm's own work as a demonstration van. It has an 8 h.p. single-cylinder De Dion engine, and a capacity of about 7 cwt. The next machine is of the same power, but has a two cylinder Gnome engine, and is fitted with a neat and capacious box body suitable for parcels, travellers' samples, and so forth. Lastly, there is an open trolley with a four cylinder motor, and having a capacity of about 12 cwt. It is well adapted for milk traffic and similar work. All these cars have s cardan shaft drive and accumulator ignition., though magneto ignition can be substituted if required. A picture of the Lancaster Demonstration van is below (first pic).
Interestingly, in 1903, Mr. W.J. Masser, proprietor of Lancaster Motor Garage, was involved in another type of public exhibition, which put him in trouble with the law (next two pics).
Next, also in 1903, the The Motor-Car Journal, illuminating the confusion that surrounded the proliferation of vehicle manufacturers in the early 20th century, reported:
Some confusion having arisen as to the Lanchester car and the Lancaster Motor Garage, we are requested to state that the Lanchester Engine Company, Limited, and the Lancaster Motor Garage are in no way connected to each other. Finally, Lancaster Motor Garage was also a sales agent for Mass and De Dion-Bouton automobiles (last pic)
PJ: The detailed and organized fashion in which you keep track of all these makes, more than 100 years later, is a most impressive achievement indeed!
Quote from: pguillem on January 14, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
Since you knew it, I'll restore your correct score: +10 + 21 +6.
And with Vlachos, +22 for you. Sorry about that.
16388:WOLF (1)
Thank you. May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.
Quote from: faksta on January 14, 2014, 06:04:23 PM
I'm back with #5713 - a jackpot either for me or for one of the remaining players :D
5713:FIANDRI
Remember, the list is 'moving' in the meantime...I'm updating it daily with new names ;)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 15, 2014, 04:04:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2014, 12:36:30 PM
8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)
I hope it's this one :)
From the 1907 Olympia Industrial Vehicle Show:
Lancaster Motor Garage. Lancaster Gate W, Stand 63
This firm exhibits three vehicles of the smaller class, and a class that is destined to become a very large one. That is, it is no novice at the business is shown by one of the cars, which has been running for some 18 months, doing the firm's own work as a demonstration van. It has an 8 h.p. single-cylinder De Dion engine, and a capacity of about 7 cwt. The next machine is of the same power, but has a two cylinder Gnome engine, and is fitted with a neat and capacious box body suitable for parcels, travellers' samples, and so forth. Lastly, there is an open trolley with a four cylinder motor, and having a capacity of about 12 cwt. It is well adapted for milk traffic and similar work. All these cars have s cardan shaft drive and accumulator ignition., though magneto ignition can be substituted if required.
A picture of the Lancaster Demonstration van is below (first pic).
Interestingly, in 1903, Mr. W.J. Masser, proprietor of Lancaster Motor Garage, was involved in another type of public exhibition, which put him in trouble with the law (next two pics).
Next, also in 1903, the The Motor-Car Journal, illuminating the confusion that surrounded the proliferation of vehicle manufacturers in the early 20th century, reported:
Some confusion having arisen as to the Lanchester car and the Lancaster Motor Garage, we are requested to state that the Lanchester Engine Company, Limited, and the Lancaster Motor Garage are in no way connected to each other.
Finally, Lancaster Motor Garage was also a sales agent for Mass and De Dion-Bouton automobiles (last pic)
PJ: The detailed and organized fashion in which you keep track of all these makes, more than 100 years later, is a most impressive achievement indeed!
Very, very interesting.
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.
PS. Thank you, but I just collect other's work and make it easily available.
Pguillem 33 numbers. Score: 466
Last number: 16388:WOLF (1)
Otto Puzzell 26 numbers. Score: 307
Last number: 8861:LANCASTER MOTOR (2)
7 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71.
Last number:5713:FIANDRI
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 04:58:41 AM
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.
Ugh. Here's the only Lancaster company automobile I can find:
Lancamobile
The James H. Lancaster Co.
New York, NY
1899-1901
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 15, 2014, 05:55:02 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 04:58:41 AM
It's not the one I have but it was an interesting reading.
Ugh. Here's the only Lancaster company automobile I can find:
Lancamobile
The James H. Lancaster Co.
New York, NY
1899-1901
Not that...
I guess I'll have to pass again.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 04:27:36 AM
May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.
I just found Wolf Automobile Wilcox Motor Co., Minneapolis, Mn (1907-1909) If it's not this one, I suppose that I am finished, as it was my last guess. Right ?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 15, 2014, 08:41:20 AM
I guess I'll have to pass again.
Lancaster Motor Company from Lancaster, New York was incorporated in 1910. Production is doubted.
Quote from: pguillem on January 15, 2014, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 04:27:36 AM
May I have the first clue for 16388:WOLF (1) ?
Around 1905.
I just found Wolf Automobile Wilcox Motor Co., Minneapolis, Mn (1907-1909) If it's not this one, I suppose that I am finished, as it was my last guess. Right ?
That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number. :-\
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 01:57:42 PM
That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number. :-\
That's what I found for Wolfe :
Wolfe
In 1906, car salesman Maurice Wolfe, joined the Wilcox Brothers in Minneapolis, MN, to form the H. E. Wilcox Motor Car Company in making the Wolfe automobile. They were either air-cooled or water-cooled four-cylinder engines with double-chained drive. 30 cars were made in 1907 and 153 in 1908. The name was changed to WilcoxI it's not that, may I have another clue ? Thanks
Quote from: pguillem on January 15, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 01:57:42 PM
That should be Wolfe. Not that. You can ask for clues or leave it but it was your last number. :-\
That's what I found for Wolfe :
Wolfe
In 1906, car salesman Maurice Wolfe, joined the Wilcox Brothers in Minneapolis, MN, to form the H. E. Wilcox Motor Car Company in making the Wolfe automobile. They were either air-cooled or water-cooled four-cylinder engines with double-chained drive. 30 cars were made in 1907 and 153 in 1908. The name was changed to Wilcox
I it's not that, may I have another clue ? Thanks
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.
Another clue ?
Quote from: pguillem on January 15, 2014, 02:49:54 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2014, 02:31:21 PM
Yes, that is Wolfe but the one you pick was WOLF (1) and the date is just 1 year: around 1905.
Another clue ?
It was American.
thank you for playing!
It was quite hard: the car that Maurice Wolf from Jamestown, North Dakota built according to a pubblication of 1905.
Here we are, now.
Otto Puzzell 30 numbers. Score: 387
Last number: 9065:LEMAITRE
3 more numbers to try.
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 71.
Last number:5713:FIANDRI
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Hello?
Hello :)
8912, please
The Larmar could well make a valid claim for being the narrowest car in history. At two feet four inches wide, it was designed to pass through a standard garden gate of two feet six inches.
It was Britain's newest and smallest car when it was introduced in 1946. While it was aimed primarily at the invalid market, the company went out of its way to say that apart from its extra-wide doors, low sill height, and interchangeable controls, there was nothing to indicate that it was an invalid car, and that its large storage compartment, easy hand-starting, and its 15 foot turning circle would be appreciated by women for use as a runabout or a shopping car.
Its mechanical underpinnings were quite sophisticated compared to other vehicles of the type, having four-wheel independent suspension with large coils at the front and torque tubes with quarter elliptic springs at the rear. It was constantly being developed, finally receiving a 350-cubic centimeter twin in 1950.
The parent company is still i operations, though the Larmar car is long gone.
The Larmar Engineering Company Ltd has over 85 years of precision engineering experience as a supplier for the Aerospace, Communications, Electronic and Medical Industries. Operating from our own factory site we offer a fast response to enquiries, quality competitive manufacturing and on time delivery.
We believe strongly in continual investment in machine tools, electronic commerce and training to remain at the top for service and reliability.
The company encompasses the very latest ideas in manufacturing technology, blends these with traditional values and personal service at Director level to develop total engineering solutions.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 17, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
The Larmar could well make a valid claim for being the narrowest car in history. At two feet four inches wide, it was designed to pass through a standard garden gate of two feet six inches.
It was Britain's newest and smallest car when it was introduced in 1946. While it was aimed primarily at the invalid market, the company went out of its way to say that apart from its extra-wide doors, low sill height, and interchangeable controls, there was nothing to indicate that it was an invalid car, and that its large storage compartment, easy hand-starting, and its 15 foot turning circle would be appreciated by women for use as a runabout or a shopping car.
Its mechanical underpinnings were quite sophisticated compared to other vehicles of the type, having four-wheel independent suspension with large coils at the front and torque tubes with quarter elliptic springs at the rear. It was constantly being developed, finally receiving a 350-cubic centimeter twin in 1950.
That's it!
+22
Woo-hoo!
8963, please
Wow - this is a tough one! :o
All I can find is this (no pic):
L.C.S. (Fort Wayne), 1910
After an experience as New York City agents for three makes of unlicensed cars, J.M. Carmer and Charles La Due, together with C. C. Snyder, of New York City, have formed the L.C.S Motor Company, which has taken a factory in Ft. Wayne, Ind.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 18, 2014, 05:33:55 AM
Wow - this is a tough one! :o
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 18, 2014, 05:46:30 AM
All I can find is this (no pic):
L.C.S. (Fort Wayne), 1910
After an experience as New York City agents for three makes of unlicensed cars, J.M. Carmer and Charles La Due, together with C. C. Snyder, of New York City, have formed the L.C.S Motor Company, which has taken a factory in Ft. Wayne, Ind.
Not enough for you it seems!
That's it.
They should have built a 40hp car.
+21!
Yay! :D
9014, please
This one?
1907 Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ. The Leblanc Carburetor Co, was incorporated with Jean Leblanc, H. C. Cryden and C. T. Van Steenburg as the principals, to manufacture self propelling vehicles. Capital, $2,000
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 18, 2014, 07:43:13 AM
This one?
1907 Hoboken, Hudson County, NJ. The Leblanc Carburetor Co, was incorporated with Jean Leblanc, H. C. Cryden and C. T. Van Steenburg as the principals, to manufacture self propelling vehicles. Capital, $2,000
Yes! I had it from Trenton, but it's that!
+21
9065, please
Hm. Date range, please?
(1912-1934)
The carrossier that cloaked such cars as this 1926 Donnet Zedel G2 Torpédo?
Georges Lemaitre, carrossier from Levallois-Perret, Senie!
+21
(I had it just an Amilcar bodied by them).
9116, please
LESSHAFT
Otto Puzzell 32 numbers. Score: 429
Last number: 9167:LIEBRE
Faksta 8 numbers. Scored 92.
Last number:5713:FIANDRI
12 more numbers to spot a top maker
25 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 20, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
LESSHAFT
LESSHAFT. A 3-wheel voiture built in Berlin in 1925 -1926. Powered by 2-stroke Rinne engine. Sorry, no pic.
If that's correct, 9167, please
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 20, 2014, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 20, 2014, 07:46:18 AM
LESSHAFT
LESSHAFT. A 3-wheel voiture built in Berlin in 1925 -1926. Powered by 2-stroke Rinne engine. Sorry, no pic.
If that's correct, 9167, please
Yes!
+21
9167:LIEBRE
Liebre-Torino were a series of prototypes that raced in the '60s and '70s in the Argentina Republic Turismo Carretera. There were four evolutions of the Liebre-Torino, constructed by Heriberto Pronello, with the go-fast bits engineered by Oreste Berta . The 4 generations were know as Liebre Mk I, Liebre Mk I y 1/2, Liebre Mk II and Liebre Mk III.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 21, 2014, 04:43:01 AM
Liebre-Torino were a series of prototypes that raced in the '60s and '70s in the Argentina Republic Turismo Carretera. There were four evolutions of the Liebre-Torino, constructed by Heriberto Pronello, with the go-fast bits engineered by Oreste Berta . The 4 generations were know as Liebre Mk I, Liebre Mk I y 1/2, Liebre Mk II and Liebre Mk III.
That's it!
+21
Great!
9218, please.
LINGYANG
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 21, 2014, 11:20:44 AM
LINGYANG
There is a Chinese-market Suzuki Cultus clone called the Ling Yang. I'm pretty sure you're looking for something different...
The last one has always to make troubles!
It is a chinese company (hear hear!) but my source doesn't report the Suzuki connection.
I have model name, in the usual chinese-friendly style (letters and numbers) and some characteristics. I have the full name of the company, the place and the year they build theyr cars.
Jiangling Machinery Works; Chongqing Municipality; China.
1993/94
Model name JLJ 1010
It's said to be a "microcar"
Perfect!
+21.
Now, faksta told me he would like to play, but a week passed and he just received 1 number.
Since he is the last player around and I'd like to end the game soon, I'll let him decide, again, if he want to play and if positive, he will post 5 numbers each time and fortunately we'll speed up a bit.
I have a complete log of all your games, if you want to know how did you reach your score, how many missed cars, clues and wrong id you had.
Otto, you had 33 numbers, asked 4 times for a clue (-4), 8 times you got the wrong maker (-24) and 8 times you pass your number (-80).
Your 25 correctly identified numbers (+500) had a total of 58 models (+58).
An average 2,32 for each maker, best result was Kaiser-Willys with 11 models.
You beated your bad luck with your knowledge.
Pguillem in your 33 numbers, you look for a clue 9 times (-9), guess incorrectly 14 times (-42) and skip your number 11 times (-110).
Your 22 valid numbers (+440) had a total of 176 models (+176).
Average 8 model x maker, best results were Shelby (2) +58, and Rolls Royce of America (+45).
Not bad, you played with a hint of strategy but you tried each one and hit good ones.
Targhediferro with 41 numbers you never needed a clue and got it wrong 13 times (-39). You quit 13 numbers (-130).
Your 27 good numbers (+560) brought you 339 models (+339).
Average 12,5 model x maker thanks to just 2 best results: Bugatti (1) with 184 models and Minerva with 77.
You missed quite a number of good ones helping others but also took a couple of good ones thanks to others...a well balanced game, good mix of strategy, knowledge and luck.
D-type in 33 numbers just 2 clues (-2) and 16 wrong guesses (-58). You changed your number 16 times (-160).
With 17 valid guesses (+340) you got 815 models (+815).
Average 47,9 model x maker thanks to your 2 excellent shots: BMW (1) with 406 models and Maserati (+296).
You were nearly there and you used a simple strategy, try to spot good makers also consulting the list. Your luck and knowldege did the rest!
Wendax 45 numbers and 7 clues (-7) but only 6 wrong guesses (-18). You drop just 2 numbers (-20).
43 good numbers (+860) added to 187 models (+187) made you reach 1000.
Average 4,35 model x maker and just 3 numbers with nearly 30 models (ACME 1 +34, D'Ieteren 1 +29 and Spoerer +28).
You are the proof that you do not need luck if you have knowledge. You randomically picked up numbers after numbers, regardless of the list and reached your score. Teutonic!
Joao with 33 numbers and 7 clues (-7) you were wrong 9 times (-27). You skip 10 numbers (-10).
With just 23 good numbers (+460) and theyr 1256 models (+1256) you hit both goals.
Average 54,6 model x maker (but it was 89,7 considering also Lancia's +808!) and a couple of big hits: Renault (+619) and Ferrari (1) (+555).
You were hard to beat: mixing knowldege, strategy and just a hint of luck, you planned you victory.
A fascinating and enjoyable game. Thank you for investing so much time and effort!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 21, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
A fascinating and enjoyable game. Thank you for investing so much time and effort!
thank you, it's been a terrific game for me too!
Thank you for an enjoyable game.
Thank you Francesco, I presume this game will last in our memory and in Autopuzzle's history; a very addictive game that I'm sure it forced you to an enormous work, something you did perfectly. As usual in Autopuzzles I learned a lot about cars I hardly have heard before, thanks also to the other quizzers' answers. ;D
Grazie mille Francesco ! I'm totally flabbergasted by your analytics and your ability at characterizing each player. I was hesitant at playing, but with Google help and my modest knowledge I was able to be in the party. An historic moment, as targhediferro said. :faint: :faint: :faint:
Quote from: D-type on January 21, 2014, 05:17:23 PM
Thank you for an enjoyable game.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 21, 2014, 05:51:39 PM
Thank you Francesco, I presume this game will last in our memory and in Autopuzzle's history; a very addictive game that I'm sure it forced you to an enormous work, something you did perfectly. As usual in Autopuzzles I learned a lot about cars I hardly have heard before, thanks also to the other quizzers' answers. ;D
Quote from: pguillem on January 21, 2014, 07:55:22 PM
Grazie mille Francesco ! I'm totally flabbergasted by your analytics and your ability at characterizing each player. I was hesitant at playing, but with Google help and my modest knowledge I was able to be in the party. An historic moment, as targhediferro said. :faint: :faint: :faint:
Grazie Mille!
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
I'm curious!
5219, 80405, 100197
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 03:22:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
I'm curious!
5219, 80405, 100197
This is just to keep you busy while I'm waiting for faksta's answers. ;)
Wendax:
5219: 10hp 1924
80405: Mark1 hatchback 1988
100197: Model 18 7-passenger Touring 50hp 1918
Can you find the makers? Going backwards, now.
You have 100 credits, +50 if you find it, -30 each one you skip, -10 wrong guesses, -3 each clue you need.
Clues: #1: type of car #4: tech specs #2:nationality #3:firsts letters of the maker #4 & #5: various
those clues won't be given in that order, I'll give you one or the other according to the model you choose.
I'll give the useless ones first and then the ones that will bring you almost there., if possible.
Errrr...oh..oh my...Apologies for becoming an obstacle, but I can't play as often as I did before anymore :(
As for Fiandri - probably Carrozzeria Fiandri, a coachbuilder related to Maserati?
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 03:49:00 AM
Errrr...oh..oh my...Apologies for becoming an obstacle, but I can't play as often as I did before anymore :(
As for Fiandri - probably Carrozzeria Fiandri, a coachbuilder related to Maserati?
Not an obstacle, as long as you can keep posting ;)
Yes, that Fiandri. They coachbuilt a MASERATI A6 gcs\53 spider around 1953!
+21
Now, since you are the last one you can tell me 5 numbers for your game, I'll tell you the makers and you can take your time to find them...there's no hurry if you want to continue and I know that there's a real life to take care of...(do I?)
...beside that, I think I found a way to keep other players busy, while they wait. ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
Yay! :D
3728, 5714 and 8387, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:53:02 AM
Not an obstacle, as long as you can keep posting ;)
Yes, that Fiandri. They coachbuilt a MASERATI A6 gcs\53 spider around 1953!
+21
Now, since you are the last one you can tell me 5 numbers for your game, I'll tell you the makers and you can take your time to find them...there's no hurry if you want to continue and I know that there's a real life to take care of...(do I?)
...beside that, I think I found a way to keep other players busy, while they wait. ;)
OK, let's try these then:
#305
#10600
#11303
#12062
#15059
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 22, 2014, 04:32:58 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
Yay! :D
3728, 5714 and 8387, please.
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 06:01:08 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:53:02 AM
Not an obstacle, as long as you can keep posting ;)
Yes, that Fiandri. They coachbuilt a MASERATI A6 gcs\53 spider around 1953!
+21
Now, since you are the last one you can tell me 5 numbers for your game, I'll tell you the makers and you can take your time to find them...there's no hurry if you want to continue and I know that there's a real life to take care of...(do I?)
...beside that, I think I found a way to keep other players busy, while they wait. ;)
OK, let's try these then:
#305: ALART
#10600: MORETTE
#11303: ONE SIX TWO
#12062: PONTIAC (1)
#15059: Too close to your 15102
There you are!
Oh..here you are, my great maths abilities ;D
Let it be #15051 instead :)
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 06:46:24 AM
Oh..here you are, my great maths abilities ;D
Let it be #15051 instead :)
TONGBAO
#305 ALART - Alart Coupe, a little French sportscar from 1959. Saw one in the Cite de l'Automobile museum in Mulhouse a couple years back.
#10600 MORETTE - is it a company that manufactures bodykits for cars, mainly dealing with headlamps? Doesn't sound enough to be in your list to me actually, but who knows. They have originated in France, but later seemingly moved elsewhere.
#11303 ONE SIX TWO - I'll use a time range hint here.
#12062 PONTIAC - pretty obviously, an American manufacturer established in 1926, part of GM.
#15051 TONGBAO - Suzuki-based small commercial vehicles. Sounds like they must be Chinese, but all of the sales ads I've seen were from Uruguay for some reason.
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 07:50:54 AM
#305 ALART - Alart Coupe, a little French sportscar from 1959. Saw one in the Cite de l'Automobile museum in Mulhouse a couple years back.
#10600 MORETTE - is it a company that manufactures bodykits for cars, mainly dealing with headlamps? Doesn't sound enough to be in your list to me actually, but who knows. They have originated in France, but later seemingly moved elsewhere.
#11303 ONE SIX TWO - I'll use a time range hint here.
#12062 PONTIAC - pretty obviously, an American manufacturer established in 1926, part of GM.
#15051 TONGBAO - Suzuki-based small commercial vehicles. Sounds like they must be Chinese, but all of the sales ads I've seen were from Uruguay for some reason.
#305: Right! (+21)
#10600: Not that but I found out that other sources (all but 1) list that under the builder's name. I'll let you have another try on this.(and I'll fix this bug in my list ;) )
#11303: apporx 1983-86 (-1)
#12062 not that -3 (it's harmless now to reveal that Pontiac 4 is the GM one ;))
#15051 later known as 'ZONGSHEN TONGBAO', right! (+21)
#12062 - Pontiac Spring and Wagon Works?
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
#12062 - Pontiac Spring and Wagon Works?
Not that...
#10600 - a Morette three-wheeler built by B.E. Dickinson in 1902?
#12062 - cca 1915, Pontiac Chassis Co.?
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:48:07 AM
#10600 - a Morette three-wheeler built by B.E. Dickinson in 1902?
Yes!
Burgess-Wise's book is the only that lists it as Morette but in this case I'll fix it.
+22
#12062 - Pontiac Buggy Company? But in this case I'm not sure at all this fits, as they might have only produced horse-driven carriages, not motor cars.
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
#12062 - Pontiac Spring and Wagon Works?
This is said to have been renamed as Pontiac Vehicle Company later on...
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:57:58 AM
#12062 - Pontiac Buggy Company? But in this case I'm not sure at all this fits, as they might have only produced horse-driven carriages, not motor cars.
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Quote from: faksta on January 22, 2014, 08:43:25 AM
#12062 - Pontiac Spring and Wagon Works?
This is said to have been renamed as Pontiac Vehicle Company later on...
Not Pontiac Buggy Company and not the Spring Wagon Works (or Vehicle Company).
Remember you have 3 hints, if you like.
Faksta 13 numbers. Scored 143.
7 more numbers to spot a top maker
20 more numbers to score more than 1580.
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 03:22:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
I'm curious!
5219, 80405, 100197
I'm curious too !
1048, 10048, 100048
Ok, Let's try:
6017 - 10017 - 15017.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:41:16 AM
5219: 10hp 1924
80405: Mark1 hatchback 1988
100197: Model 18 7-passenger Touring 50hp 1918
100197 hopefully is the 1918 Westcott Model 18.
For the other 2 numbers I need the first hint.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
3728: American Balanced - The American was an American automobile, built in Plainfield, New Jersey, manufactured from 1917 to 1924. The company also used names American Balanced Six or American Six, "Balanced" referred to its chassis, not the engine. It was an assembled car, one of many built in its time, and it used components from several manufacturers like Borg & Beck for clutch, Warner transmission, Stromberg carburetor and Rutenber engines. I can't find a picture of a 1922, but here's a '21.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
5714: The Asia Rocsta is a four-wheel drive off-road vehicle built by Asia Motors Corporation in South Korea.
The Rocsta is derived from the Korean army's 4WD vehicle, also developed by Asia Motors. Because this model was cheaper than competing 4WD vehicles, it contributed to the increase in popularity of offroad racing in Korea.
Asia Motors launched the Rocsta in 1990, and retired it in 1997. From 1998, the Rocsta's replacement, the Asia Retona, was sold under the Kia badge.
UK sales of the Rocsta ran from 1994–1997, which included both 1.8 litre petrol and 2.2 litre diesel models. Both could be purchased with either a hard or soft-top. Both models were distributed by Kia Motors and used Kia copies of standard Mazda engines, with five-speed manual transmission.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
8387: ERA Replica Automobiles manufactures the 427 Cobra replica in New Britain, Connecticut.
"E.R.A. began in 1968, doing restorations of Porsches, BMW's and several British cars. In the first year, we fixed a totalled 289 Cobra (bought for only $1500 at the time by our current general manager, Pete Portante. The car was sold about 8 years later - before the prices went crazy, of course.) and a Fiberfab kit car, among other projects. In 1981, we started on our 427 replica. By 1985, all our restoration work ceased - we were just too busy doing our 427. So far, we've delivered over 800 kits to 30+ states and a half-dozen countries."
Quote from: pguillem on January 22, 2014, 10:09:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 03:22:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:10:01 AM
..and only for you 6 players a special extension of the game:
Post 3 numbers each, between 100 and 103200 and let's see what happens!
I'm curious!
5219, 80405, 100197
I'm curious too !
1048, 10048, 100048
1048: Six 1927
10048: ARNAGE GREEN LABEL 2000
100048: 2HP MOTOR ROAD WAGON 1895
Quote from: targhediferro on January 22, 2014, 10:24:26 AM
Ok, Let's try:
6017 - 10017 - 15017.
6017: VIRAGE 1988
10017: S3 SALOON 1962
15017: MODEL 61 TOURING SEDAN 1939
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 12:11:57 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:41:16 AM
5219: 10hp 1924
80405: Mark1 hatchback 1988
100197: Model 18 7-passenger Touring 50hp 1918
100197 hopefully is the 1918 Westcott Model 18.
For the other 2 numbers I need the first hint.
Very good!
+50
5219: 1st useless clue: just a production car, not a coachbuilt one, a racer, a replica etc.
80405: 1st useless clue: it's British
You can ask another number in order to have always 3 active numbers, if you like to.
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 22, 2014, 12:53:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
3728: American Balanced - The American was an American automobile, built in Plainfield, New Jersey, manufactured from 1917 to 1924. The company also used names American Balanced Six or American Six, "Balanced" referred to its chassis, not the engine. It was an assembled car, one of many built in its time, and it used components from several manufacturers like Borg & Beck for clutch, Warner transmission, Stromberg carburetor and Rutenber engines. I can't find a picture of a 1922, but here's a '21.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 22, 2014, 12:57:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
5714: The Asia Rocsta is a four-wheel drive off-road vehicle built by Asia Motors Corporation in South Korea.
The Rocsta is derived from the Korean army's 4WD vehicle, also developed by Asia Motors. Because this model was cheaper than competing 4WD vehicles, it contributed to the increase in popularity of offroad racing in Korea.
Asia Motors launched the Rocsta in 1990, and retired it in 1997. From 1998, the Rocsta's replacement, the Asia Retona, was sold under the Kia badge.
UK sales of the Rocsta ran from 1994–1997, which included both 1.8 litre petrol and 2.2 litre diesel models. Both could be purchased with either a hard or soft-top. Both models were distributed by Kia Motors and used Kia copies of standard Mazda engines, with five-speed manual transmission.
Yes x 2!
+100
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 22, 2014, 01:06:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 06:24:25 AM
3728: MODEL SIX C-60 SEDAN 1922
5714: ROCSTA 4WD 1994
8387: COBRA 427 1985
8387: ERA Replica Automobiles manufactures the 427 Cobra replica in New Britain, Connecticut. "E.R.A. began in 1968, doing restorations of Porsches, BMW's and several British cars. In the first year, we fixed a totalled 289 Cobra (bought for only $1500 at the time by our current general manager, Pete Portante. The car was sold about 8 years later - before the prices went crazy, of course.) and a Fiberfab kit car, among other projects. In 1981, we started on our 427 replica. By 1985, all our restoration work ceased - we were just too busy doing our 427. So far, we've delivered over 800 kits to 30+ states and a half-dozen countries."
Not ERA.
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
No rules here, you can play as you like, it's just for fun now ;).
3179: RUNABOUT 1903
3289: GTA TURBO EUROPA CUP 1985
5713: ROCSTA 1994
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
Very good!
+50
5219: 1st useless clue: just a production car, not a coachbuilt one, a racer, a replica etc.
80405: 1st useless clue: it's British
You can ask another number in order to have always 3 active numbers, if you like to.
Two more (hopefully more useful) clues, please.
And number 2209, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
No rules here, you can play as you like, it's just for fun now ;).
3179: RUNABOUT 1903
3289: GTA TURBO EUROPA CUP 1985
5713: ROCSTA 1994
I've obviously missed something here.
I was sure these would be
3179: Chevrolet
3289: Citroen
5713: Fiat (Italy)
So I'll have to ask for a clue for each of them please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
Very good!
+50
5219: 1st useless clue: just a production car, not a coachbuilt one, a racer, a replica etc.
80405: 1st useless clue: it's British
You can ask another number in order to have always 3 active numbers, if you like to.
Two more (hopefully more useful) clues, please.
And number 2209, please.
I can give you two less useless ones...(but if you read between the lines there was a subtle clue in my previous ...clues).
5219: 2nd less useless clue: 4 cilinders, 1094cc.
80405: usually Ford powered.
2209: GIULIETTA BERLINA ZAGATO 1958
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
No rules here, you can play as you like, it's just for fun now ;).
3179: RUNABOUT 1903
3289: GTA TURBO EUROPA CUP 1985
5713: ROCSTA 1994
I've obviously missed something here.
I was sure these would be
3179: Chevrolet
3289: Citroen
5713: Fiat (Italy)
So I'll have to ask for a clue for each of them please.
it's adifferent game now, you can pick numbers between 100 and 103200 and those are models...you have to find the makers!
I've written few lines about in page 1, 2nd post.
Wanna try again without clues now?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 04:08:49 PM
2209: GIULIETTA BERLINA ZAGATO 1958
I have that distant feeling that the manufacturer might be an Italian company by the name of, er.... Alfa Romeo?
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 04:20:49 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 04:08:49 PM
2209: GIULIETTA BERLINA ZAGATO 1958
I have that distant feeling that the manufacturer might be an Italian company by the name of, er.... Alfa Romeo?
And you'd be right! ;D
80405 should be a Quantum.
Now, considering that there are no rules but I can change my mind, you can always pick numbers in sequence but if you pick a maker already discovered, you'll get 5 and not 50. I will apply this rule from now on. ;D
5219 is an Ariel.
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 04:27:33 PM
80405 should be a Quantum.
Almost there...
The subtle clue was that I couldn't say it was a kit car, because that was a very useful clue!
It's just a matter of numbers, now ;)
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 04:31:26 PM
5219 is an Ariel.
Now, that's impressive...but again it's a matter of numbers, now.
Almost there.
I fear I don't understand what you mean by "almost there" and "it's a matter of numbers now". ??? ???
Do you need the full name of the manufacturer like "Quantum Sports Cars" and "Ariel Motors Ltd"?
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 04:45:14 PM
I fear I don't understand what you mean by "almost there" and "it's a matter of numbers now". ??? ???
Do you need the full name of the manufacturer like "Quantum Sports Cars" and "Ariel Motors Ltd"?
it's the opposite of the previous game where a Bugatti (1) was the builder of the type 57.
Now if you pick a TYPE 57, the answer will be Bugatti
(1) ;)
Aaaaah! :idea:
I go for Ariel(1) and Quantum(2).
Quote from: Wendax on January 22, 2014, 04:55:23 PM
Aaaaah! :idea:
I go for Ariel(1) and Quantum(2).
+100
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
No rules here, you can play as you like, it's just for fun now ;).
3179: RUNABOUT 1903
3289: GTA TURBO EUROPA CUP 1985
5713: ROCSTA 1994
I've obviously missed something here.
I was sure these would be
3179: Chevrolet
3289: Citroen
5713: Fiat (Italy)
So I'll have to ask for a clue for each of them please.
it's adifferent game now, you can pick numbers between 100 and 103200 and those are models...you have to find the makers!
I've written few lines about in page 1, 2nd post.
Wanna try again without clues now?
I think I get the idea, are they
Ajax Runabout
Alfa Romeo GTA Turbo Europa Cup
Asia Rocsta
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
1048: Six 1927
10048: ARNAGE GREEN LABEL 2000
100048: 2HP MOTOR ROAD WAGON 1895
1048: there are different Sixes from 1927. May I have a hint ?
10048: the Bentley BMW V8 Arnage was renamed the Arnage Green Label for the 2000 model year. In addition, from 2000-2001, a special edition "Birkin" was produced
100048: is it a Duryea ?
I carry on with the numbers 7038, 40123 and 102013.
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:54:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 03:13:32 PM
Quote from: D-type on January 22, 2014, 03:08:50 PM
My trio (still looking for volume manufacturers)
3179
3289
5713
No rules here, you can play as you like, it's just for fun now ;).
3179: RUNABOUT 1903
3289: GTA TURBO EUROPA CUP 1985
5713: ROCSTA 1994
I've obviously missed something here.
I was sure these would be
3179: Chevrolet
3289: Citroen
5713: Fiat (Italy)
So I'll have to ask for a clue for each of them please.
it's adifferent game now, you can pick numbers between 100 and 103200 and those are models...you have to find the makers!
I've written few lines about in page 1, 2nd post.
Wanna try again without clues now?
I think I get the idea, are they
Ajax Runabout
Alfa Romeo GTA Turbo Europa Cup
Asia Rocsta
Not Ajax
Not Alfa Romeo :o
Yes! +50
Quote from: pguillem on January 22, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
1048: Six 1927
10048: ARNAGE GREEN LABEL 2000
100048: 2HP MOTOR ROAD WAGON 1895
1048: there are different Sixes from 1927. May I have a hint ?
10048: the Bentley BMW V8 Arnage was renamed the Arnage Green Label for the 2000 model year. In addition, from 2000-2001, a special edition "Birkin" was produced
100048: is it a Duryea ?
1048: the most useless clue can be this: active from 1923 to 1930 circa.
10048: Yes! +50
100048: Not a Dureya (list arrives till 103300 ;))
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 02:12:55 AM
I carry on with the numbers 7038, 40123 and 102013.
7038:MODEL 50 LIMOUSINE 60 HP 1909
40123:HQ 2006
102013:7 1\2 HP 1902
(Note that years may always be inaccurate)
Note for all:
if the makers may have some bugs, my list of models have many of these: years may be inaccurate, model designation may be incorrect and so on...I can't fix them all (I copy from books when available) and sometimes I need them that way for my personal use (I can call the Giulietta Zagato 'Bicolore' -two tones- because I want to recognize it right away without opening the pic, for example).
Always keep in mind that this was a list for personal use and it may be different in many aspects from what you know about ;)
6017 - Aston Martin Virage 1988
10017 - Bentley S3 saloon 1962
15017 - Cadillac 61 Touring 1939
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 09:33:00 AM
6017 - Aton Martin Virage 1988
10017 - Bentley S3 saloon 1962
15017 - Cadillac 61 Touring 1939
Yes x 3! +150
May I go on?....very amusing. If yes I try with 20017 30017 40017.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 09:35:38 AM
May I go on?....very amusing. If yes I try with 20017 30017 40017.
Yes, no rules now but if you pick a maker already found by others (or by yourself) you'll receive 5, not 50.
(otherwise you or others can go 6018,6019,6020 and it will be boring...now it will be useless too)
Why 5 and not 0? Because I won't make a list of all the makers already out and you can't look back to check them all, so if it happens, you won't be too penalized.
20017: MODEL A 40 HP TOURER 1910
30017: 4 HP GASOLINE VEHICLE 1895
40017: VOLGA M21 DIESEL 1962
40017 I think GAZ-Volga M21 diesel 1962; for the Others 20017 and 30017 I need a clue, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 10:00:06 AM
40017 I think GAZ-Volga M21 diesel 1962; for the Others 20017 and 30017 I need a clue, please.
40017: correct! +50
20017: From the USA
30017: From the USA
20017 Coates-Goschen A 40hp tourer 1910
30017 Duryea 4hp Gasoline vehicle 1895
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:39:44 AM
7038:MODEL 50 LIMOUSINE 60 HP 1909
40123:HQ 2006
102013:7 1\2 HP 1902
7038 should be the Austin Automobile Company from Grand Rapids, Michigan. As they started in 1902, I hope it is Austin(1).
40123 should be Geely from China.
102013 is Wolseley.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:36:21 AM
1048: the most useless clue can be this: active from 1923 to 1930 circa.
10048: Yes! +50
100048: Not a Dureya (list arrives till 103300 ;))
1048: Brocklebank ?
100048: so it should be near the end of the alphabet. Morris & Salom Experimental Wagon ?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
20017 Coates-Goschen A 40hp tourer 1910
30017 Duryea 4hp Gasoline vehicle 1895
20017: Not that...(I have them as 45, BTW)
30017 : Not that..(I have that as a Buggy of 1893, BTW)
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:39:44 AM
7038:MODEL 50 LIMOUSINE 60 HP 1909
40123:HQ 2006
102013:7 1\2 HP 1902
7038 should be the Austin Automobile Company from Grand Rapids, Michigan. As they started in 1902, I hope it is Austin(1).
40123 should be Geely from China.
102013 is Wolseley.
Wow...just wow!
+150
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 23, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:42:31 AM
1st useless clue: it's from the States.
Pass :-[
In this 'game' you can have up to 5 clues...and they will lead to the solution sooner or later.
I decided to give the useless ones first in order to keep it going...you can either tell me your next numbers or ask for clues ;)
9103, 35777 and 60359, please.
Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2014, 01:39:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:36:21 AM
1048: the most useless clue can be this: active from 1923 to 1930 circa.
10048: Yes! +50
100048: Not a Dureya (list arrives till 103300 ;))
1048: Brocklebank ?
100048: so it should be near the end of the alphabet. Morris & Salom Experimental Wagon ?
1048: not that. (thank you for the pic!)
100048: yes, nearer than Morris & Salom.
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
9103, 35777 and 60359, please.
9103: TYPE AS2 12\24 HP 1932
35777: FIREBIRD SPRINT 1965
60359: 8\10 HP 3-WHEELER 1913
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 02:34:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
60359: 8\10 HP 3-WHEELER 1913
That is a Matchless.
Ok, I'll stop to be surprised each time.
But just for information, I have 175 models '8\10hp' and 3 of them are also 3-wheelers (probably more but I did not write it in the model's name)...2 of them are pretty close alphabetically and not too distant for the year.
...oh, I forgot to add: you are right.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
9103: TYPE AS2 12\24 HP 1932
35777: FIREBIRD SPRINT 1965
Two useless clues, please. :)
9103: Production Model
35777: From the States
In this case too there's a subtle clue...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 23, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
In this 'game' you can have up to 5 clues...and they will lead to the solution sooner or later.
I decided to give the useless ones first in order to keep it going...you can either tell me your next numbers or ask for clues ;)
OK - clue, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:11:20 PM
35777: From the States
Although the year doesn't fit really, my mind is circling around the name Fitch, as John Fitch built tuned Corvair Sprints and Firebird Sprints, but the Firebird appeared first in 1967.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
9103: TYPE AS2 12\24 HP 1932
How about a twist in the year? Looking at 1923, it could be an Autocrat:
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 23, 2014, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 23, 2014, 01:16:31 PM
In this 'game' you can have up to 5 clues...and they will lead to the solution sooner or later.
I decided to give the useless ones first in order to keep it going...you can either tell me your next numbers or ask for clues ;)
OK - clue, please.
2nd less useless clue: type of car is obvious, engine is obvious, I don't have a defined time range...the place will give it away..it starts with A!
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 03:24:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:11:20 PM
35777: From the States
Although the year doesn't fit really, my mind is circling around the name Fitch, as John Fitch built tuned Corvair Sprints and Firebird Sprints, but the Firebird appeared first in 1967.
That was the name and since I've mislead you, you'll have back +3 but since it's not Fitch but again it's a matter of numbers, I'll take back -3 ;D
(That is only because it's a game to spend time, I won't play like that if there were points at stake)
I'll try Fitch(3)
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 03:40:19 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
9103: TYPE AS2 12\24 HP 1932
How about a twist in the year? Looking at 1923, it could be an Autocrat:
I look into a quite reliable source to double check...it could be 1929, but not 23 and not Autocrat.
In order to avoid such 'erratic' info, I'll provide more generic dates from now on.
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
I'll try Fitch(3)
not (3)
I need another clue about 20017 and 30017, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:18:26 PM
9103: TYPE AS2 12\24 HP 1932
Another clue, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 03:48:28 PM
I'll try Fitch(3)
not (3)
Fitch(4)?
#50000, please
9103: A French Marque.
Not (4), wrong direction.
50000:XJR-14 1991
9103: Barré?
Fitch(2)
50000: Jaguar
Sorry to keep changing things but I had not the time to prepare this game right.
If you nail the maker and it's just a matter of number, you'll get -1 and not -10.
(I know you won't care, it's up to me to follow my calculations!)
Quote from: Wendax on January 23, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
9103: Barré?
Fitch(2)
50000: Jaguar
Yes, yes and yes!
I changed the point system (again)...I don't think it's fair that you (and all the other players) lose -10 once you found a maker just because you don't know how many more alias I have there...-1 is fair enough.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:15:50 PM
1048: not that. (thank you for the pic!)
100048: yes, nearer than Morris & Salom.
May I have clues for these two ? Thanks.
[quote ]
Ajax Runabout
Alfa Romeo GTA Turbo Europa Cup
Asia Rocsta
[/quote]
Not Ajax
Not Alfa Romeo :o
Yes! +50
[/quote]
Acme Runabout ?
Alpine GTA Turbo Europa Cup ?
new number 98765
To all players of the extended version, I wrote all you need to know about this game at the end of the 2nd reply on page 1!
Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 02:15:50 PM
1048: not that. (thank you for the pic!)
100048: yes, nearer than Morris & Salom.
May I have clues for these two ? Thanks.
1048: Nationality will help you too much ;), it's a Six by CIME.
100048: 1st useless clue: from the States.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
I need another clue about 20017 and 30017, please.
20017: time range 1910-1912
30017: it has a KANE-PENNINGTON engine.
Quote from: D-type on January 23, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
[quote ]
Ajax Runabout
Alfa Romeo GTA Turbo Europa Cup
Asia Rocsta
Not Ajax
Not Alfa Romeo :o
Yes! +50
[/quote]
Acme Runabout ?
Alpine GTA Turbo Europa Cup ?
new number 98765
[/quote]
Not Acme
Yes, Alpine!
98765:POLO 1100 CLE 1981
Can I have a clue for the Runabout please.
Volkswagen Polo 1100 CLE 1981
New number: 54321
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
1048: Nationality will help you too much ;), it's a Six by CIME.
100048: 1st useless clue: from the States.
1048 : ADK 8 from Belgium ? If it's not, I'll try Jean Gras.
100048: the nationality doesn't help me so much. I'm struggling with early American automobiles, but to no avail. Another clue, maybe ?
My next ones, please:
46375
88447
102838
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
2nd less useless clue: type of car is obvious, engine is obvious, I don't have a defined time range...the place will give it away..it starts with A!
Antique and Collectible Autos Inc. 35 Dole Street Buffalo NY?
Is 30017 a De La Vergne? If not I need another clue.
Quote from: D-type on January 23, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
Can I have a clue for the Runabout please.
Volkswagen Polo 1100 CLE 1981
New number: 54321
1st useless clue: From the States.
Yes! +50
54321: APRILIA SERIE II CABRIOLET PININFARINA 1939
Quote from: pguillem on January 23, 2014, 10:17:56 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 05:16:03 PM
1048: Nationality will help you too much ;), it's a Six by CIME.
100048: 1st useless clue: from the States.
1048 : ADK 8 from Belgium ? If it's not, I'll try Jean Gras.
100048: the nationality doesn't help me so much. I'm struggling with early American automobiles, but to no avail. Another clue, maybe ?
1048: Yes! +50
100048: Built in New York city.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 02:12:43 AM
My next ones, please:
46375
88447
102838
46375:HIGHWHEELER MODEL 10 RUNABOUT 4\5 HP 1908
88447:HORIZON GL 1978
102838:JAGUAR XK140 COUPE 1957
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 05:20:29 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
2nd less useless clue: type of car is obvious, engine is obvious, I don't have a defined time range...the place will give it away..it starts with A!
Antique and Collectible Autos Inc. 35 Dole Street Buffalo NY?
Not that. :-\
Quote from: targhediferro on January 24, 2014, 05:31:28 AM
Is 30017 a De La Vergne? If not I need another clue.
Not that.
An american vehicle using a KANE-PENNINGTON engine. Now for the 3rd clue I have to help a bit more...the builder (there was no company) was from Charlevoix, Michigan.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 05:20:29 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
2nd less useless clue: type of car is obvious, engine is obvious, I don't have a defined time range...the place will give it away..it starts with A!
Antique and Collectible Autos Inc. 35 Dole Street Buffalo NY?
Not that. :-\
Blimey! Another clue, please.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 07:56:28 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 05:20:29 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 23, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
2nd less useless clue: type of car is obvious, engine is obvious, I don't have a defined time range...the place will give it away..it starts with A!
Antique and Collectible Autos Inc. 35 Dole Street Buffalo NY?
Not that. :-\
Blimey! Another clue, please.
8387 is not a small number but yet it starts with 'A'. Ok that's not a clue...it's from South Carolina but probably that is useless too.
The Company is named after it's builders, not a long name, BTW.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:33:40 AM
100048: Built in New York city.
100048 : 1895 2HP "Motor Road Wagon" "New York City" : I can't find anything. Am I going in the wrong direction ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:37:15 AM
46375:HIGHWHEELER MODEL 10 RUNABOUT 4\5 HP 1908
That's a Holsman.
I'm getting nowhere. Cobra Kit Car companies are virtually uncountable. Are there any more clues on offer?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:37:15 AM
102838:JAGUAR XK140 COUPE 1957
Sounds like a Zagato to me.
Quote from: pguillem on January 24, 2014, 01:04:42 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:33:40 AM
100048: Built in New York city.
100048 : 1895 2HP "Motor Road Wagon" "New York City" : I can't find anything. Am I going in the wrong direction ?
So far you are pretty ..stable ;D
This makers, starts with 'W' and it's the union of 2 surnames Wxxxx & Lxxxxxx. It's not a well documented maker and useful clues may be hard here.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 01:34:22 PM
I'm getting nowhere. Cobra Kit Car companies are virtually uncountable. Are there any more clues on offer?
You are right, but fortunately this one is not that known...it means that if you find a Cobra manufactuer, starting with A (near the very bottom of the A-named makers, but not Az), named after its builder, it's probably your guy.
Just to give you an idea, this maker is reported in 3 books of mine, ERA, for example, in 6.
I can say that it rymes with something He sure was looking for! (more or less)
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:37:15 AM
46375:HIGHWHEELER MODEL 10 RUNABOUT 4\5 HP 1908
That's a Holsman.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 01:42:37 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:37:15 AM
88447:HORIZON GL 1978
That should be a Simca.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 07:37:15 AM
102838:JAGUAR XK140 COUPE 1957
Sounds like a Zagato to me.
Why I'm not surprised?
+150!
25886,71558, 92633, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
25886,71558, 92633, please.
25886:MK II B early 50s
71558:COTTIN-DESGOUTTES TYPE M DE COURSE GRAND PRIX TORPEDO BATEAU mid 20s
92633: 1400 GSR COUPE mid 70s
So far so good..
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
71558:COTTIN-DESGOUTTES TYPE M DE COURSE GRAND PRIX TORPEDO BATEAU mid 20s
That must be the coachbuilder Ottin.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 02:53:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
71558:COTTIN-DESGOUTTES TYPE M DE COURSE GRAND PRIX TORPEDO BATEAU mid 20s
That must be the coachbuilder Ottin.
+50!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
25886:MK II B early 50s
Different sources report 1951 as a correct year.
A useless clue, please.
Further on, numbers 22222 and 27500, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 03:20:33 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
25886:MK II B early 50s
Different sources report 1951 as a correct year.
A useless clue, please.
Further on, numbers 22222 and 27500, please.
Probably not so useless...it's British.
22222: Grand Prix 1911
27500: MONACO 500 COUPE 1967
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
25886:MK II B early 50s
Different sources report 1951 as a correct year.
Probably not so useless...it's British.
22222: Grand Prix 1911
27500: MONACO 500 COUPE 1967
22222 is quite hard, as there were three Grand Prix cars in 1911 having names beginning with C. I have atry at Cottin-Desgouttes.
25886 must be a Dellow then.
27500 is a Dodge.
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 04:30:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 03:10:46 PM
25886:MK II B early 50s
Different sources report 1951 as a correct year.
Probably not so useless...it's British.
22222: Grand Prix 1911
27500: MONACO 500 COUPE 1967
22222 is quite hard, as there were three Grand Prix cars in 1911 having names beginning with C. I have atry at Cottin-Desgouttes.
25886 must be a Dellow then.
27500 is a Dodge.
Did you took a copy of my index? ;D
Yes x 3!
Numbers 63558, 74625 and 81477, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 01:34:22 PM
I'm getting nowhere. Cobra Kit Car companies are virtually uncountable. Are there any more clues on offer?
You are right, but fortunately this one is not that known...it means that if you find a Cobra manufactuer, starting with A (near the very bottom of the A-named makers, but not Az), named after its builder, it's probably your guy.
Just to give you an idea, this maker is reported in 3 books of mine, ERA, for example, in 6.
I can say that it rymes with something He sure was looking for! (more or less)
Ron Ayers Classic Cars; Simpsonville, SC?
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 04:42:56 PM
Numbers 63558, 74625 and 81477, please.
63558:COMET 404 V8 STATION WAGON 1965
74625:BB1 2009
81477:FORMULA 1 1964
3179 - Acadia Runabout?
If not can I have another useless clue please
54321 - Lancia Aprilia Serie II Cabriolet Pininfarina
New number 43210
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 01:34:22 PM
I'm getting nowhere. Cobra Kit Car companies are virtually uncountable. Are there any more clues on offer?
You are right, but fortunately this one is not that known...it means that if you find a Cobra manufactuer, starting with A (near the very bottom of the A-named makers, but not Az), named after its builder, it's probably your guy.
Just to give you an idea, this maker is reported in 3 books of mine, ERA, for example, in 6.
I can say that it rymes with something He sure was looking for! (more or less)
Ron Ayers Classic Cars; Simpsonville, SC?
Yes! +50
Which clue help you most?
Quote from: D-type on January 24, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
Acadia Runabout?
If not can I have another useless clue please
54321 - Lancia Aprilia Serie II Cabriolet Pininfarina
New number 43210
Not Acadia. It's quite obscure, reported in just 1 book, later become the American importer of a better known French maker, if my list was in Greek, this one will be one of the 1st makers...active just in 1903.
54321: Yes! +50
43210: ALVIS SA 3.5 LITRE SALOON 1935
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
63558:COMET 404 V8 STATION WAGON 1965
74625:BB1 2009
81477:FORMULA 1 1964
63558 is a Mercury, and I hope it is Mercury(9).
74625 is a Peugeot.
81477 could be the R.E.-Alfa Romeo driven by Ray Reed (R.E. stood for Ray's Engineering)
I quit 20017 and 30017, too difficult for me.
May I have 50017, 60017 and 70017?
Quote from: Wendax on January 24, 2014, 05:03:45 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
63558:COMET 404 V8 STATION WAGON 1965
74625:BB1 2009
81477:FORMULA 1 1964
63558 is a Mercury, and I hope it is Mercury(9).
74625 is a Peugeot.
81477 could be the R.E.-Alfa Romeo driven by Ray Reed (R.E. stood for Ray's Engineering)
63558: Yes, not (9) but not very far from that.
74625: Yes
81477: Actually was the REALPHA, later known as RE, but I can't say its' wrong....was that easy?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 24, 2014, 05:20:48 PM
I quit 20017 and 30017, too difficult for me.
May I have 50017, 60017 and 70017?
20017: It was not easy, CLARK (10) Clark Motor Car Company, Shelbyville, Indiana
30017: another hard one, ELSTON, by R. W. Elston, Charlevoix, Michigan
50017: XJS 4.0 CELEBRATION 1995
60017: 8 CM/34 1934
70017: CUTLASS CONCEPT 1954
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
63558: Yes, not (9) but not very far from that.
74625: Yes
81477: Actually was the REALPHA, later known as RE, but I can't say its' wrong....was that easy?
Mercury(10) then?
Never heard of Realpha or R.E.-Alfa Romeo before. ;D
50017: Jaguar XJS 4.0 Celebration 1995
60017: Maserati 8CM/34 1934
70017: Oldsmobile Cutlass concept 1954
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:57:05 PM
Not Acadia. It's quite obscure, reported in just 1 book, later become the American importer of a better known French maker, if my list was in Greek, this one will be one of the 1st makers...active just in 1903.
43210: ALVIS SA 3.5 LITRE SALOON 1935
Last try - is 3179 an Alpha Runabout? if not, I'll give up and go for 40001
This must be a coach builder. Is it a Charlesworth Alvis SA 3.5 litre saloon?
Next number: 50001
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 24, 2014, 04:46:29 PM
Ron Ayers Classic Cars; Simpsonville, SC?
Yes! +50
Which clue help you most?
Actually, it was South Carolina. I had to look at a lot of different kit car sites until I found a rather comprehensive one.
Do I get to try three more numbers?
I've few minutes:
Wendax, not (10), right direction and now you are very close.
Targhediferro, Yes X 3: +150!
D-Type: 3179 is correct! 43210: is a coachbuilder but not that.
Otto: yes, if you like.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 05:07:47 AM
I've few minutes:
Wendax, not (10), right direction and now you are very close.
Targhediferro, Yes X 3: +150!
D-Type: 3179 is correct! 43210: is a coachbuilder but not that.
Otto: yes, if you like.
Yes, please.
556
5329
8488
Mercury(11)
If correct, new numbers 62596, 82775, 101101, please.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 25, 2014, 05:36:44 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 05:07:47 AM
I've few minutes:
Wendax, not (10), right direction and now you are very close.
Targhediferro, Yes X 3: +150!
D-Type: 3179 is correct! 43210: is a coachbuilder but not that.
Otto: yes, if you like.
Yes, please.
556
5329
8488
556:AUDI TT LIMITED II 2002
5329:NEW TWENTY 20 HP BURLINGTON SALOON early 30s (32?)
8488:10.8 hp early 20s (1921?)
Quote from: Wendax on January 25, 2014, 06:14:29 AM
Mercury(11)
If correct, new numbers 62596, 82775, 101101, please.
Yes!
62596:190E 2.5-16 Gr.A AMG 1989
82775: Requa 1912
101101: MODEL 77 SEDAN 48 HP 1936
Quote from: D-type on January 24, 2014, 06:23:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 04:57:05 PM
Not Acadia. It's quite obscure, reported in just 1 book, later become the American importer of a better known French maker, if my list was in Greek, this one will be one of the 1st makers...active just in 1903.
43210: ALVIS SA 3.5 LITRE SALOON 1935
Last try - is 3179 an Alpha Runabout? if not, I'll give up and go for 40001
This must be a coach builder. Is it a Charlesworth Alvis SA 3.5 litre saloon?
Next number: 50001
50001:MKVIII 3.5 LITRE SALOON 1956
Quote from: targhediferro on January 24, 2014, 05:36:08 PM
50017: Jaguar XJS 4.0 Celebration 1995
60017: Maserati 8CM/34 1934
70017: Oldsmobile Cutlass concept 1954
Actually is 105: 5+50+50.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 24, 2014, 02:19:08 PM
This makers, starts with 'W' and it's the union of 2 surnames Wxxxx & Lxxxxxx. It's not a well documented maker and useful clues may be hard here.
The list of defunct manufacturers doesn't help. May I have 100100 ?
They were WELCH & LAWSON.
100100:BMW 501 CABRIOLET mid 50s
I did three lucky numbers...let's continue the 17 line...80017, 90017, 100017, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
62596:190E 2.5-16 Gr.A AMG 1989
82775: Requa 1912
101101: MODEL 77 SEDAN 48 HP 1936
I would be surprised, if 62596 weren't a Mercedes-Benz.
Are you sure that you haven't given the name away with #82775? There was a Requa European Motor Company of New York in 1912. Production is doubted.
101101 must be a Willys.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
They were WELCH & LAWSON.
100100:BMW 501 CABRIOLET mid 50s
WELCH & LAWSON : I never could have found it. Google only shows pumps and woodworking machinery
100100: is it the Baur cabriolet ?
If I'm right, may I have 1151, 10151,100151 ? Thanks.
50001 - Jaguar Mk VIII 3.4 litre saloon 1956
43210 - Hooper Alvis 3.5 litre saloon
I've already requested 40001
As a new number can I try 85001 please
Quote from: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 11:29:59 AM
I did three lucky numbers...let's continue the 17 line...80017, 90017, 100017, please.
80017:AP02, 1999
90017:SS1 DROPHEAD COUPE 20HP, 1935
100017:875, mid 20s (it's not the actual model name but the displacement 875cc, year should be around 1927)
Quote from: Wendax on January 25, 2014, 11:54:01 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 08:16:23 AM
62596:190E 2.5-16 Gr.A AMG 1989
82775: Requa 1912
101101: MODEL 77 SEDAN 48 HP 1936
I would be surprised, if 62596 weren't a Mercedes-Benz.
Are you sure that you haven't given the name away with #82775? There was a Requa European Motor Company of New York in 1912. Production is doubted.
101101 must be a Willys.
62596: No surpise, then.
82775: when production is doubted I use to file a 'model' named as the maker just to have that maker in the 'model' list too.
10101: Yes!
+150
Quote from: pguillem on January 25, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
They were WELCH & LAWSON.
100100:BMW 501 CABRIOLET mid 50s
WELCH & LAWSON : I never could have found it. Google only shows pumps and woodworking machinery
100100: is it the Baur cabriolet ?
If I'm right, may I have 1151, 10151,100151 ? Thanks.
Not Baur...100100 is near the bottom of the list, Baur is in the upper part of it.
12332, 32665 and 84663, please.
Quote from: D-type on January 25, 2014, 12:48:00 PM
50001 - Jaguar Mk VIII 3.4 litre saloon 1956
43210 - Hooper Alvis 3.5 litre saloon
I've already requested 40001
As a new number can I try 85001 please
50001:Right! +5
43210:Not Hooper
QuoteLast try - is 3179 an Alpha Runabout? if not, I'll give up and go for 40001
...but you were right ;)
40001 4 Pick-Up Truck, 1933
85001 P6 BS, 1967
Quote from: pguillem on January 25, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 11:19:41 AM
They were WELCH & LAWSON.
100100:BMW 501 CABRIOLET mid 50s
WELCH & LAWSON : I never could have found it. Google only shows pumps and woodworking machinery
100100: is it the Baur cabriolet ?
If I'm right, may I have 1151, 10151,100151 ? Thanks.
Wendler is right!
1151: ADVANCE, 1913
10151: 24\40 PS, 1907
100151: '27 FORD T, 1986
Quote from: Wendax on January 25, 2014, 01:56:14 PM
12332, 32665 and 84663, please.
You reached 25 numbers.
I'll give you one at a time to let others catch up with you. I won't let everyone play the same amount of games again or I'll have to think yet another game for who will wait ;)
12332:FIAT 6C 1500 CABRIOLET ROYAL 4-POSTI, 1936
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 03:40:23 PM
12332:FIAT 6C 1500 CABRIOLET ROYAL 4-POSTI, 1936
Boneschi?
Yes! +50
I'll take 32665 then.
80017: Prost AP02 1999
90017: SS SS1 drophead 1935
100017: I quit this one.
Quote from: Wendax on January 25, 2014, 04:29:43 PM
I'll take 32665 then.
32665:PUNTO SPUNTO PININFARINA, 1994
Quote from: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 04:42:18 PM
80017: Prost AP02 1999
90017: SS SS1 drophead 1935
100017: I quit this one.
Yesx2
100017: Weiss-Manfred
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
43210 - Hooper Alvis 3.5 litre saloon
I've already requested 40001
As a new number can I try 85001 please
50001:Right! +5
43210:Not Hooper
QuoteLast try - is 3179 an Alpha Runabout? if not, I'll give up and go for 40001
...but you were right ;)
40001 4 Pick-Up Truck, 1933
85001 P6 BS, 1967
[/quote]
43210 Another hint please (coachbuilders aren't my forté)
40001 Not a clue - Hint please
85001 Rover P6 BS 1967 The mid engined coupe that Rover weren't allowed to develop as it would have been in direct competition with the E Type Jaguar
Quote from: D-type on January 25, 2014, 05:12:54 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 02:08:32 PM
43210 - Hooper Alvis 3.5 litre saloon
I've already requested 40001
As a new number can I try 85001 please
50001:Right! +5
43210:Not Hooper
QuoteLast try - is 3179 an Alpha Runabout? if not, I'll give up and go for 40001
...but you were right ;)
40001 4 Pick-Up Truck, 1933
85001 P6 BS, 1967
43210 Another hint please (coachbuilders aren't my forté)
40001 Not a clue - Hint please
85001 Rover P6 BS 1967 The mid engined coupe that Rover weren't allowed to develop as it would have been in direct competition with the E Type Jaguar
[/quote]
4321: 1st useless clue: British Coachbuilder.
40001: 1st useless clue: 'utility' version of the 1st car of this maker.
85001: Yes!
I would try 22517, 32517 and 42517 please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
1151: ADVANCE, 1913
10151: 24\40 PS, 1907
100151: '27 FORD T, 1986
1151 : The Advance Auto Co. ?
10151 : Benz ?
100151 : is it a replica ?
# 84663, then.
556:AUDI TT LIMITED II 2002
With its Abt-Audi TT-R, Abt Sportsline has won the title in the DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters), which was the biggest success in the history of the company. And according to the corporate motto "From the race track to the street", the world's leading tuning company for makes of the Volkswagen-concern has created a new highlight off the track as well: the Abt TT-limited II. "We want to give people the pure motorsport feeling for road use", says managing director and DTM-driver Christian Abt. The result incorporates pure passion with 195 kW (265 hp), quattro drive and a fascinating sport package.
5329:NEW TWENTY 20 HP BURLINGTON SALOON early 30s (32?)
Burlington Carriage Company was purchased by Siddeley-Deasy in 1913 and would continue to act as the firm's in-house coachbuilder until car production ended in 1960. So I'm going for the sedan pictured below.
8488:10.8 hp early 20s (1921?)
How about a zippy little Riley 1923 - 10.8hp 2 Seater?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 06:03:08 PM
I would try 22517, 32517 and 42517 please.
22517:SPECIAL MK2, 1951
32517:24\40 HP DOUBLE PHAETON 'SPARVIERE' LANZA, 1905
42517:GRAND CENTER, 1913
Quote from: pguillem on January 25, 2014, 10:49:27 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 25, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
1151: ADVANCE, 1913
10151: 24\40 PS, 1907
100151: '27 FORD T, 1986
1151 : The Advance Auto Co. ?
10151 : Benz ?
100151 : is it a replica ?
1151: not that.
10151: Yes, but it's a matter of numbers now...
100151: Are you looking for a clue?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 26, 2014, 03:53:30 AM
556:AUDI TT LIMITED II 2002
With its Abt-Audi TT-R, Abt Sportsline has won the title in the DTM (Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters), which was the biggest success in the history of the company. And according to the corporate motto "From the race track to the street", the world's leading tuning company for makes of the Volkswagen-concern has created a new highlight off the track as well: the Abt TT-limited II. "We want to give people the pure motorsport feeling for road use", says managing director and DTM-driver Christian Abt. The result incorporates pure passion with 195 kW (265 hp), quattro drive and a fascinating sport package.
5329:NEW TWENTY 20 HP BURLINGTON SALOON early 30s (32?)
Burlington Carriage Company was purchased by Siddeley-Deasy in 1913 and would continue to act as the firm's in-house coachbuilder until car production ended in 1960. So I'm going for the sedan pictured below.
8488:10.8 hp early 20s (1921?)
How about a zippy little Riley 1923 - 10.8hp 2 Seater?
556: Yes!
5329: YES!
8488: Nice guess, but not that.
Number 42684, please.
Not Henley...
Oops, a clue, please.
1st useless clue: from the Sates.
I agree about the uselessness, another clue is needed.
2 words.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
1151: not that.
10151: Yes, but it's a matter of numbers now...
100151: Are you looking for a clue?
1151 : The Advance was an English tricar producing 6 hp (4.5 kW) offered from 1902 to 1912 by a Northampton motorcycle manufacturer. This one ?
10151 : Benz 24\40 PS 1907-1910 ? I don't understand what is the missing part
100151 : A clue would be helpful
Thanks,
Quote from: pguillem on January 26, 2014, 10:53:38 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:17:43 AM
1151: not that.
10151: Yes, but it's a matter of numbers now...
100151: Are you looking for a clue?
1151 : The Advance was an English tricar producing 6 hp (4.5 kW) offered from 1902 to 1912 by a Northampton motorcycle manufacturer. This one ?
10151 : Benz 24\40 PS 1907-1910 ? I don't understand what is the missing part
100151 : A clue would be helpful
Thanks,
1151: Not that. As I wrote in a previous reply, when I have a manufacturer with no-models built, I just put the manufacturer's name as a model, to have it in the model's list too. It means that the maker is 'Advance' but its production is doubted.
10151: In the 2nd post I explained few info about this game: when I have multiple makers with the same name (like Bugatti (1), Bugatti (2), etc..) and you pick one of those, to complete the answer you should guess at that number. In case you are wrong it will be just a -1 (instead of -10).
100151:1st useless clue: from the States.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 11:03:24 AM
1151: Not that. As I wrote in a previous reply, when I have a manufacturer with no-models built, I just put the manufacturer's name as a model, to have it in the model's list too. It means that the maker is 'Advance' but its production is doubted.
10151: In the 2nd post I explained few info about this game: when I have multiple makers with the same name (like Bugatti (1), Bugatti (2), etc..) and you pick one of those, to complete the answer you should guess at that number. In case you are wrong it will be just a -1 (instead of -10).
100151:1st useless clue: from the States.
1151 : I think I'd better leave this one
10151 : Benz (1) ?
100151 : Ford Model T 'T-Bucket' Hot Rod in the movie The Money Pit ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 06:03:08 PM
I would try 22517, 32517 and 42517 please.
22517:Dellow SPECIAL MK2, 1951
32517:Fiat 24\40 HP DOUBLE PHAETON 'SPARVIERE' LANZA, 1905
42517:I need a clue about GRAND CENTER, 1913
Quote from: Wendax on January 26, 2014, 12:57:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 09:23:44 AM
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Number 42684, please.
TF-V8, 1986
Third clue, please.
This american replica was known with another name before (when they built this replica with Mg parts) and yet another name after, when it was acquired by another company. Starts with 'G'.
Quote from: pguillem on January 26, 2014, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 11:03:24 AM
1151: Not that. As I wrote in a previous reply, when I have a manufacturer with no-models built, I just put the manufacturer's name as a model, to have it in the model's list too. It means that the maker is 'Advance' but its production is doubted.
10151: In the 2nd post I explained few info about this game: when I have multiple makers with the same name (like Bugatti (1), Bugatti (2), etc..) and you pick one of those, to complete the answer you should guess at that number. In case you are wrong it will be just a -1 (instead of -10).
100151:1st useless clue: from the States.
1151 : I think I'd better leave this one
10151 : Benz (1) ?
100151 : Ford Model T 'T-Bucket' Hot Rod in the movie The Money Pit ?
1151:Advance Garage Company, Chicago, Illinois
10151: Yes!
100151: I have a list of manufacturers and theyr models. The manufacturer you are looking for builds a series of T-Bucket, Roadster, Pick-Up or Track-T cars inspired to '23, '27 and '32 Ford. I don't know if they are the builders of the car in that movie.
I'll leave you a clue: if you mispell this name you'll have a quite known German maker of BMW-based retro roadsters.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 26, 2014, 02:43:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:11:36 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 06:03:08 PM
I would try 22517, 32517 and 42517 please.
22517:Dellow SPECIAL MK2, 1951
32517:Fiat 24\40 HP DOUBLE PHAETON 'SPARVIERE' LANZA, 1905
42517:I need a clue about GRAND CENTER, 1913
.
22517: Not Dellow
32517: Yes!
42517: 1st useless clue: from the States.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 03:56:21 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 26, 2014, 12:57:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 09:23:44 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 26, 2014, 09:22:41 AM
Number 42684, please.
TF-V8, 1986
Third clue, please.
This american replica was known with another name before (when they built this replica with Mg parts) and yet another name after, when it was acquired by another company. Starts with 'G'.
Seems to be a hard nut. Next clue, please.
Yep, not one of the most known but it's reported in the best sources...at least 3 books have that name.
Now, to help you find it, I can say that: 1. it's reported in a site of one of our members too, 2. a site discussing of MG replicas name it (togheter with the former company), 3. the former company started with 'V' and the one you are looking for is Gxxxx Lxxxx (you can count the Xs).
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 04:44:02 PM
it's reported in a site of one of our members too
I should have looked there before! :bag:
It is the Chevrolet-engined Great Lakes TF-V8.
Number 41111, please.
GENIE, 1967
Yes!
Number 41678, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2014, 02:42:09 AM
Number 41678, please.
MODEL 40 5-PASSENGER TOURING 45 HP, 1920
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 05:45:43 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 03:37:02 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:21:19 AM
8488: Nice guess, but not that.
Perhaps a GWK, Type F?
Not GWK and not that known.
How could I have been so blind? The number should place this cat nearer the middle of your alphabetical list. I can't find a picture, but I think it could be the Lewis.
The Abbey was a short-lived friction drive car assembled by the Abbey Auto Engineering Co. Ltd in Westminster, England. It used a 10.8 hp 1498 cc Coventry-Simplex engine. It was built in 1922 only and cost £315. It also had Marles steering and friction drive. The two-seater model sold for ₤315.
Very few seem to have been made. After 1922 the car was sold as the Lewis.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 05:50:26 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 05:45:43 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 03:37:02 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 08:21:19 AM
8488: Nice guess, but not that.
Perhaps a GWK, Type F?
Not GWK and not that known.
How could I have been so blind? The number should place this cat nearer the middle of your alphabetical list. I can't find a picture, but I think it could be the Lewis.
The Abbey was a short-lived friction drive car assembled by the Abbey Auto Engineering Co. Ltd in Westminster, England. It used a 10.8 hp 1498 cc Coventry-Simplex engine. It was built in 1922 only and cost £315. It also had Marles steering and friction drive. The two-seater model sold for ₤315.
Very few seem to have been made. After 1922 the car was sold as the Lewis.
...ehmm...my list arrives till 103450...8488 is much closer to the top of it ;)...
Argh!
Makes in the 8,000's seemed grouped around the letter "L".
OK - Clyno is nearer the beginning of the alphabet. How about a 1922 model?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 06:04:28 AM
Argh!
Makes in the 8,000's seemed grouped around the letter "L".
OK - Clyno is nearer the beginning of the alphabet. How about a 1922 model?
They are but makers are 16700, more than the double...models are 103000...nearly 13 times more.
Not a Clyno and not that known.
Clue, please
1st useless clue: it's British.
I suppose you may want a 2nd clue: active briefly (1921-1923) and that model have some French influences.
22517: Crosley?
42517: I need another clue, please.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 27, 2014, 07:47:40 AM
22517: Crosley?
42517: I need another clue, please.
22517: Very close alphabetically but not that and not that known. It was a series of Specials and you pick #2.
42517: As I wrote before, when I have a maker with no models, I just write the Make as if it was a model just to have it under the list of models too. This company was called Grand Center and was from 1913.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 27, 2014, 07:47:40 AM
22517: Crosley?
42517: I need another clue, please.
22517: Very close alphabetically but not that and not that known. It was a series of Specials and you pick #2.
42517: As I wrote before, when I have a maker with no models, I just write the Make as if it was a model just to have it under the list of models too. This company was called Grand Center and was from 1913.
If I correctly understand, 42517 is Grand Center, and I've nothing to guess....while I need a clue for 22517.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 27, 2014, 08:13:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 07:55:59 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 27, 2014, 07:47:40 AM
22517: Crosley?
42517: I need another clue, please.
22517: Very close alphabetically but not that and not that known. It was a series of Specials and you pick #2.
42517: As I wrote before, when I have a maker with no models, I just write the Make as if it was a model just to have it under the list of models too. This company was called Grand Center and was from 1913.
If I correctly understand, 42517 is Grand Center, and I've nothing to guess....while I need a clue for 22517.
42517 is Grand Center, do you know any info about?
22517: 1st useless clue: It's British. 2nd clue: those specials where racing cars built around early 1950s
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 05:44:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2014, 02:42:09 AM
Number 41678, please.
MODEL 40 5-PASSENGER TOURING 45 HP, 1920
That should make it the last model year for Glide from Peoria, Illinois.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
1st useless clue: it's British.
I suppose you may want a 2nd clue: active briefly (1921-1923) and that model have some French influences.
I'm getting nowhere. One more clue?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
1st useless clue: it's British.
I suppose you may want a 2nd clue: active briefly (1921-1923) and that model have some French influences.
I'm getting nowhere. One more clue?
I have 2 models for this makers. The other has got a smaller Peter engine, 1200cc 9.5hp. They are from Chelsea. Short name.
Number 42123, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2014, 02:17:04 PM
Number 42123, please.
BUGATTI TYPE 57 C BERLINA GALIBIER,1937
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 27, 2014, 02:17:04 PM
Number 42123, please.
BUGATTI TYPE 57 C BERLINA GALIBIER,1937
That one should relate to the coachbuilder Graber.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
1st useless clue: it's British.
I suppose you may want a 2nd clue: active briefly (1921-1923) and that model have some French influences.
I'm getting nowhere. One more clue?
I have 2 models for this makers. The other has got a smaller Peter engine, 1200cc 9.5hp. They are from Chelsea. Short name.
That was a very generous clue! :D
British Automotive Co. Ltd., Chelsea, London
This was a light car whose prototype was based on the Mathis, though production cars used Belgian-designed and British-built Peters engines in two sizes 1207cc 9.5hp and 1498cc 10.8hp. They were 4 cylinder side-valve units, and attempts to convert them to ohv were apparently unsuccessful. The gearbox was a 4-speed Meadows, and final drive was by shaft. Body styles included a 2 seater with dickey and a 4 seater. Probably no more than 20 were made. If I'm allowed three more, I would like:
607
5380
8539
Thanks!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
1151:Advance Garage Company, Chicago, Illinois
10151: Yes!
100151: I have a list of manufacturers and theyr models. The manufacturer you are looking for builds a series of T-Bucket, Roadster, Pick-Up or Track-T cars inspired to '23, '27 and '32 Ford. I don't know if they are the builders of the car in that movie.
I'll leave you a clue: if you mispell this name you'll have a quite known German maker of BMW-based retro roadsters.
100151 : I'm completely lost in T-Buckets and I'm not particularly fond of Hot Rods, so I prefer to leave. Sorry. Thanks anyway for your hint.
May I have 1251, 10251 and 100251 ?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 02:07:09 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 27, 2014, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 27, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
1st useless clue: it's British.
I suppose you may want a 2nd clue: active briefly (1921-1923) and that model have some French influences.
I'm getting nowhere. One more clue?
I have 2 models for this makers. The other has got a smaller Peter engine, 1200cc 9.5hp. They are from Chelsea. Short name.
That was a very generous clue! :D
British Automotive Co. Ltd., Chelsea, London
This was a light car whose prototype was based on the Mathis, though production cars used Belgian-designed and British-built Peters engines in two sizes 1207cc 9.5hp and 1498cc 10.8hp. They were 4 cylinder side-valve units, and attempts to convert them to ohv were apparently unsuccessful. The gearbox was a 4-speed Meadows, and final drive was by shaft. Body styles included a 2 seater with dickey and a 4 seater. Probably no more than 20 were made.
If I'm allowed three more, I would like:
607
5380
8539
Thanks!
BAC is correcto but it's a matterof numbers now...
607:2 LITRE DROPHEAD COUPE, early 50s (1952?)
5380:MARLENE ROADSTER, 1988
8539:MODEL 15 RUNABOUT, 1909
Quote from: pguillem on January 27, 2014, 09:22:07 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 26, 2014, 04:05:05 PM
1151:Advance Garage Company, Chicago, Illinois
10151: Yes!
100151: I have a list of manufacturers and theyr models. The manufacturer you are looking for builds a series of T-Bucket, Roadster, Pick-Up or Track-T cars inspired to '23, '27 and '32 Ford. I don't know if they are the builders of the car in that movie.
I'll leave you a clue: if you mispell this name you'll have a quite known German maker of BMW-based retro roadsters.
100151 : I'm completely lost in T-Buckets and I'm not particularly fond of Hot Rods, so I prefer to leave. Sorry. Thanks anyway for your hint.
May I have 1251, 10251 and 100251 ?
1151: Yes!
100151:It's fine, it's not one of the best known...Wessman Enterprises from Roy, Utah.
1251: 700 Aerocupe, 1947
10251:20\35 PS DOPPEL PHAETON, 1910
100251:F50, 1998
Number 41823, please
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 06:53:42 AM
Number 41823, please
41823:CRITERIUM DE FRANCE, 1907
(when I do not know the model name of the car in a race or its technical specs, I call it as the race)
I found a newspaper clipping where one of the starters is (misspelt?) Gnataud (see red box below), but his name could have been Gantaud (see green box) as well. Is it him you are after?
I've to quit my 22517 and 42517; I'm not expert about specials and I can't find that Grand Center.
I'd choose 52517, 62517 and 72517, thank you.
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 08:21:44 AM
I found a newspaper clipping where one of the starters is (misspelt?) Gnataud (see red box below), but his name could have been Gantaud (see green box) as well. Is it him you are after?
Not that. Not an obscure name.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 08:30:18 AM
I've to quit my 22517 and 42517; I'm not expert about specials and I can't find that Grand Center.
I'd choose 52517, 62517 and 72517, thank you.
22517: Syd Creamer, London, built 3 (or 5) specials.
42517: Grand Center Motor Car Company, St. Joseph, Missouri.
Those were not that easy.
52517:MODEL D11 FORE-DOOR 5-PASSENGER TOURING 50 HP,1911
62517:270, 1932
72517:MODEL 6-60 LANDAULET, 1911
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 08:21:44 AM
I found a newspaper clipping where one of the starters is (misspelt?) Gnataud (see red box below), but his name could have been Gantaud (see green box) as well. Is it him you are after?
Not that. Not an obscure name.
Gobron-Brillié?
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 08:53:14 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 08:32:51 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 08:21:44 AM
I found a newspaper clipping where one of the starters is (misspelt?) Gnataud (see red box below), but his name could have been Gantaud (see green box) as well. Is it him you are after?
Not that. Not an obscure name.
Gobron-Brillié?
Yes!
At professional level one is tempted to look for obscure names first. 8)
Number 41900, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 09:04:42 AM
At professional level one is tempted to look for obscure names first. 8)
Number 41900, please.
41900:RD1 RENNWAGEN, 1951
I dare:
52217: Kissel Kar D-11 Fore-Door 5 Passenger Touring 50HP 1911
62217: Mercedes-Benz 270, 1932
72217: Palmer-Singer Model 6-60 Landaulet 1911
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 09:07:33 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 09:04:42 AM
At professional level one is tempted to look for obscure names first. 8)
Number 41900, please.
41900:RD1 RENNWAGEN, 1951
Not sure, but I try Goliath.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 09:29:52 AM
I dare:
52217: Kissel Kar D-11 Fore-Door 5 Passenger Touring 50HP 1911
62217: Mercedes-Benz 270, 1932
72217: Palmer-Singer Model 6-60 Landaulet 1911
Yes!
Yes!
Yes!
+105!
Can I have 82217, 92217 and 102217?
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
Can I have 82217, 92217 and 102217?
82217:R5 LS COPPA RENAULT, 1975
92217:SCEPTRE 4-DOOR HARDTOP, 1965
102217:14 HP by MALTBY, 1935
# 57222, please.
Her name was Lola ...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
1251: 700 Aerocupe, 1947
10251:20\35 PS DOPPEL PHAETON, 1910
100251:F50, 1998
1251 : Aerocupe suggest a Spanish designation, but I just found a plane. Suspecting a typo, I looked for Aerocoupe, but it didn't help. May I have a hint ?
10251 : Benz ?
100251 : the only 1998 F50 I found is a Ferrari, but it seems improbable, as the number suggest the end of your list. Another hint ?
Thanks.
# 56977, please.
Quote from: pguillem on January 28, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
1251: 700 Aerocupe, 1947
10251:20\35 PS DOPPEL PHAETON, 1910
100251:F50, 1998
1251 : Aerocupe suggest a Spanish designation, but I just found a plane. Suspecting a typo, I looked for Aerocoupe, but it didn't help. May I have a hint ?
10251 : Benz ?
100251 : the only 1998 F50 I found is a Ferrari, but it seems improbable, as the number suggest the end of your list. Another hint ?
Thanks.
1251: Ooops..It was Aerocoupe indeed...actually it was not the official designation and only 1 source reports it. To amend my mistake I can tell you that its name should be just 700 (1 source calls it 4CV 700), as reported in many brochures. A free clue: it's the only car built, plenty of sources describes it but very few pics...
10251: Yes but it's amatter of numbers now...(shouldn't be hard, you've found it before ;))
100251:1 useless clue, it's a replica.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
Can I have 82217, 92217 and 102217?
82217:R5 LS COPPA RENAULT, 1975
92217:SCEPTRE 4-DOOR HARDTOP, 1965
102217:14 HP by MALTBY, 1935
Renault, Singer, Wolseley.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 02:28:25 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: targhediferro on January 28, 2014, 10:00:33 AM
Can I have 82217, 92217 and 102217?
82217:R5 LS COPPA RENAULT, 1975
92217:SCEPTRE 4-DOOR HARDTOP, 1965
102217:14 HP by MALTBY, 1935
Renault, Singer, Wolseley.
+50, Nope, +5
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
1251 : Talbot 105 from 1936 ?
10251 : Benz (1) :doh:
100251 : Tojan Motor Car Company ?
# 100077, please
92217: Studebaker Sceptre 4-door hardtop 1965
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 06:44:48 AM
607:2 LITRE DROPHEAD COUPE, early 50s (1952?)
5380:MARLENE ROADSTER, 1988
8539:MODEL 15 RUNABOUT, 1909
607: The AC 2-Litre is an automobile that was produced by AC of Thames Ditton in Surrey, England between 1947 and 1956. Two and, from 1952, four-door saloons were sold. In addition, as from 1949, a small number of drophead coupés and "Buckland" tourers were produced. The pic below is a 1949 example, but they remained more or less the same through '56.
5380: Mercedes 500K 1932 Convertible Replica Marlene, built by Classic Roadsters Ltd, Fargo North Dakota in 1988. The company was founded in 1979 by Gary Rutherford. The Duchess was their first car, a VW based MG TD. The front engine Duchess was introduced in 1982. They also produced the Duke (based on an SS 100 Jaguar), Marlene (a 7/8ths scale Mercedes), Baron (a four seat version of the Marlene), Sebring (a stock appearing Austin Healy 5000; available in front engine and rear engine (VW), Sebring MX (a Healey on steroids, their high performance answer to the Cobra, and the MX, their own Cobra, with a longer wheelbase and longer passenger compartment than the typical Cobra kits.
8539: I had convinced myself this was the Cameron. The September, 1908 issue of Horseless Age, in an article about the new crop of Pneumatic Runabouts, gave a detailed overview of Cameron's Model 14 Runabout, followed by this: "Model 15 is identical with Model 14, with the exception that the wheel base is 94 inches, the body hung lower, wire wheels used, and the weight reduced to about 1,000 pounds". But a copy of an advertisement from 1909 suggests their model 15 runabout was a 1918 model only, or perhaps didn't reach production. So, can can I get a clue
Quote from: pguillem on January 28, 2014, 04:37:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
1251 : Talbot 105 from 1936 ?
10251 : Benz (1) :doh:
100251 : Tojan Motor Car Company ?
1251: you are more than 90000 numbers far from that. ;)
10251: Yes!
100251: Not Tojan (or Knudsen).
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 29, 2014, 04:04:27 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 28, 2014, 06:44:48 AM
607:2 LITRE DROPHEAD COUPE, early 50s (1952?)
5380:MARLENE ROADSTER, 1988
8539:MODEL 15 RUNABOUT, 1909
607: The AC 2-Litre is an automobile that was produced by AC of Thames Ditton in Surrey, England between 1947 and 1956. Two and, from 1952, four-door saloons were sold. In addition, as from 1949, a small number of drophead coupés and "Buckland" tourers were produced. The pic below is a 1949 example, but they remained more or less the same through '56.
5380: Mercedes 500K 1932 Convertible Replica Marlene, built by Classic Roadsters Ltd, Fargo North Dakota in 1988. The company was founded in 1979 by Gary Rutherford. The Duchess was their first car, a VW based MG TD. The front engine Duchess was introduced in 1982. They also produced the Duke (based on an SS 100 Jaguar), Marlene (a 7/8ths scale Mercedes), Baron (a four seat version of the Marlene), Sebring (a stock appearing Austin Healy 5000; available in front engine and rear engine (VW), Sebring MX (a Healey on steroids, their high performance answer to the Cobra, and the MX, their own Cobra, with a longer wheelbase and longer passenger compartment than the typical Cobra kits.
8539: I had convinced myself this was the Cameron. The September, 1908 issue of Horseless Age, in an article about the new crop of Pneumatic Runabouts, gave a detailed overview of Cameron's Model 14 Runabout, followed by this: "Model 15 is identical with Model 14, with the exception that the wheel base is 94 inches, the body hung lower, wire wheels used, and the weight reduced to about 1,000 pounds". But a copy of an advertisement from 1909 suggests their model 15 runabout was a 1918 model only, or perhaps didn't reach production. So, can can I get a clue
607: Yes, but it's amatter of numbers, now.
5380: As always very detailed replies but this is not the Classic Roadster's Marlene...another company built that car too.
8539: After such a detective work it's a pity to say it's wrong...there was a Model 15 in Cameron's line-up too, it was a 2-passenger open car but was called 'FEATHERWEIGHT FLYER'.
Not by him...but you are on the right track. ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:36:38 AM
607: Yes, but it's amatter of numbers, now.
I'm sorry - I don't know what this means. :scratch:
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 29, 2014, 05:16:01 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:36:38 AM
607: Yes, but it's amatter of numbers, now.
I'm sorry - I don't know what this means. :scratch:
Quote**If you find the right name and the answer is correct but 'it's a matter of numbers' it means that the maker share its name with one or more others -Bugatti (1), Bugatti (2), etc..-.
In this case, your nearly right (or nearly wrong) answer will bring you -1.
I have quite a number of AC...which one is this?
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 05:06:52 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
# 100077, please
JEEP WAGON, 1946c
Another one by Wendler?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
Not by him...but you are on the right track. ;)
A useless clue, please.
I guess I'm in over my head here.
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 05:32:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 05:06:52 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
# 100077, please
JEEP WAGON, 1946c
Another one by Wendler?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
Not by him...but you are on the right track. ;)
A useless clue, please.
1st uselss clue, a coachbuilder.
2nd clue: from Germany, active for more than 20 years.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on January 29, 2014, 05:39:41 AM
I guess I'm in over my head here.
The worse is over, now!
The maker is AC, but in my index I have AC (1), AC (2), AC (3) and so on.
You just have to guess which one (1,2,3, etc..) is this one, and in case you are wrong, it won't be -10, but just a -1, because ...it's just a matter of numbers! ;D
15017, 25017 and 35017 please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:40:42 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 05:32:21 AM
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# 100077, please
JEEP WAGON, 1946c
Another one by Wendler?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
Not by him...but you are on the right track. ;)
A useless clue, please.
1st uselss clue, a coachbuilder.
2nd clue: from Germany, active for more than 20 years.
Perhaps, the numbers moved a bit, as 100077 should be alphabetically behind 100017 (Weiss-Manfred), but I have a try at Karosseriewerke Weinsberg, because they made some bodywork for the US Army after WW2.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 29, 2014, 05:51:00 AM
15017, 25017 and 35017 please.
15017:CYCLECAR 8 HP, 1914
25017:TYPE CN, 1910c
35017:REGATA WEEKEND 100S, 1984
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 06:28:36 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:40:42 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 05:32:21 AM
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Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:27:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 28, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
# 100077, please
JEEP WAGON, 1946c
Another one by Wendler?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 05:10:47 AM
Not by him...but you are on the right track. ;)
A useless clue, please.
1st uselss clue, a coachbuilder.
2nd clue: from Germany, active for more than 20 years.
Perhaps, the numbers moved a bit, as 100077 should be alphabetically behind 100017 (Weiss-Manfred), but I have a try at Karosseriewerke Weinsberg, because they made some bodywork for the US Army after WW2.
I added more than 200 models in the meantime ;)
Not Weinsberg.
Ludwig Weinberger?
Yes, that is Weinberger #...?
As Karl Weinberger was the older company, Ludwig Weinberger should be Weinberger(2).
I have them as (1904-1939) for Ludwig's and (1908-1930) for Karl's company, even if Karl's one was estabilished earlier.
I took those years from Georgano's Enyclopedia (not the most accurate but a valid source) where they are in the order you suggested but I listed them according to those years.
I have Ludwig Weinberger (1898-1953) and Karl Weinberger (1865-1944), but this certainly includes non-automotive years. So it should be Weinberger(1).
# 100300, please.
MODEL O 3-PASSENGER ROADSTER 35 HP, 1915
Sorry, I asked for 15017, but I've already answered at that number (Cadillac model 61); Now you tell me it's a Cyclecar 8hp 1914, perhaps there has been a shifting movement.
If I have to change I'll go for 45017.
Quote from: targhediferro on January 29, 2014, 09:57:05 AM
Sorry, I asked for 15017, but I've already answered at that number (Cadillac model 61); Now you tell me it's a Cyclecar 8hp 1914, perhaps there has been a shifting movement.
If I have to change I'll go for 45017.
You can keep 15017 in this case.
As I told Wendax, in the meantime my index is growing and I added some hundreds of models so far. Once the game will be over, I'll tell you how the list was at the beginning and how it was at the end.
45017: MINX CONVERTIBLE by ARROW COACHWORKS, 1931
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 09:40:02 AM
MODEL O 3-PASSENGER ROADSTER 35 HP, 1915
That's a Westcott again.
# 100155, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 11:46:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 09:40:02 AM
MODEL O 3-PASSENGER ROADSTER 35 HP, 1915
That's a Westcott again.
# 100155, please.
Correct.
This is your 39th number.
Once you'll reach 50, we'll take a break.
I like this game but it's taking too much time...
100155:MODEL S 7-PASSENGER TOURING 40HP, 1910
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:26:16 AM
1251: you are more than 90000 numbers far from that. ;)
10251: Yes!
100251: Not Tojan (or Knudsen).
1251 : 700 is its name, 4CV 700 in one case, sometimes called Aerocoupe... It's the only car built, but very few pics... For sure it's not the Crossley Aerocoupe from 1936. I doubt that it is the Ford 1936 Aerocoupe Hotrod. May I have a hint ?
100251 : my problem with the replicas is that there are many references, but it is difficult to find the name of the manufacturer. I prefer to leave it. 100301, perhaps ?
Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Correct.
This is your 39th number.
Once you'll reach 50, we'll take a break.
I like this game but it's taking too much time...
:-[ :'( ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
100155:MODEL S 7-PASSENGER TOURING 40HP, 1910
That is a Welch-Detroit.
# 100172, please.
Quote from: pguillem on January 29, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:26:16 AM
1251: you are more than 90000 numbers far from that. ;)
10251: Yes!
100251: Not Tojan (or Knudsen).
1251 : 700 is its name, 4CV 700 in one case, sometimes called Aerocoupe... It's the only car built, but very few pics... For sure it's not the Crossley Aerocoupe from 1936. I doubt that it is the Ford 1936 Aerocoupe Hotrod. May I have a hint ?
100251 : my problem with the replicas is that there are many references, but it is difficult to find the name of the manufacturer. I prefer to leave it. 100301, perhaps ?
Thanks.
1251: it's a rare car but not too obscure and not at all for autopuzzles. One book calls it Aerocoupe, a brochure 4CV 700, all the other sources just 700.
1st useless clue: French.
2nd clue: it's a 3-wheeler.
100251: it was built by West Coast Exotics
100301:MODEL 6-50 5-PASSENGER TOURING 50 HP, 1914
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 12:11:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Correct.
This is your 39th number.
Once you'll reach 50, we'll take a break.
I like this game but it's taking too much time...
:-[ :'( ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
100155:MODEL S 7-PASSENGER TOURING 40HP, 1910
That is a Welch-Detroit.
# 100172, please.
I thought you had enough...I thought you all would like to end it.
I can always change my mind..I usually do it ;)
100155: correct!
100172: EXPERIMENTAL CAR N.2, 1902c
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
100172: EXPERIMENTAL CAR N.2, 1902c
That is the Weller from Elyria, Ohio.
Let's see whether # 100181 brings the one I'm looking for.
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
100172: EXPERIMENTAL CAR N.2, 1902c
That is the Weller from Elyria, Ohio.
Let's see whether # 100181 brings the one I'm looking for.
Weller is right...but which number?
Oh...now I see!
100181:Wells, 1912
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
100181:Wells, 1912
This must be the R.C.Wells Manufacturing Company of Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
#100192, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 01:18:49 PM
100181:Wells, 1912
This must be the R.C.Wells Manufacturing Company of Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.
#100192, please.
Yes!
100192:ADLER TRUMPF,1948
That's another Wendler. I don't know how many of the more than Adler that were Wendler-bodied are in your list. I just hope that # 100188 will do its job.
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
That's another Wendler. I don't know how many of the more than Adler that were Wendler-bodied are in your list. I just hope that # 100188 will do its job.
Right...you know what, I'm updating the index like a mad to shake things a bit...I hope I can keep your pace! ;D
100188:WL1200 FRONT, 1950
Ah, I've hit my goal.
# 100188 is a WENDAX!
Yes! And trying to make things harder for you I actually served your car!
When you asked for 100188, it was another Wendler (a BMW 326), but as I always do before revealing the number, I had to refresh the list (I'm using 'microsoft access') to have the list with the lates few updates....and there you got it, the 1st Wendax from my list!
I won't try the other ones. ;)
How about number #13122?
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
I won't try the other ones. ;)
How about number #13122?
They are moving ;)
13122:KNIGHT 25.6 HP RUNABOUT, 1918
#13122 should be a Brewster(2).
Yes!
#33333, please
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
#33333, please
1900 BERLINA 2 PORTE PININFARINA, 1953
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
100301:MODEL 6-50 5-PASSENGER TOURING 50 HP, 1914
1251 : Aérocarène from 1947
100301 : Halladay (1) ?
May I have #1301 ? Thanks.
25017: De Dion & Bouton Type CN 1910
35017: Fiat Regata Weekend 100S 1984
45017: Hillman Minx convertible by Arrows Coachworks 1931
Quote from: pguillem on January 29, 2014, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 12:57:11 PM
100301:MODEL 6-50 5-PASSENGER TOURING 50 HP, 1914
1251 : Aérocarène from 1947
100301 : Halladay (1) ?
May I have #1301 ? Thanks.
1251: Yes!
100301: Not that...it's close to the end of the list ;).
1301:FIAT 500A TOPOLINO, 1948
Quote from: targhediferro on January 30, 2014, 07:10:55 AM
25017: De Dion & Bouton Type CN 1910
35017: Fiat Regata Weekend 100S 1984
45017: Hillman Minx convertible by Arrows Coachworks 1931
Yes x3!
What about 15017?
Sorry, I misunderstood; when you gave me 45017 I though it was in change of 15017...I'll try to solve it, together with 55017 and 65017.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 07:18:11 AM
1251: Yes!
100301: Not that...it's close to the end of the list ;).
1301:FIAT 500A TOPOLINO, 1948
100301 : 1914 Westcott Model 6-50 ?
1301: so many Topolinos. May I have a hint ?
may I try #10301 ? Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 30, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 07:18:11 AM
1251: Yes!
100301: Not that...it's close to the end of the list ;).
1301:FIAT 500A TOPOLINO, 1948
100301 : 1914 Westcott Model 6-50 ?
1301: so many Topolinos. May I have a hint ?
may I try #10301 ? Thanks.
100301: Yes! +5
1301: 1st useless clue, it's Italian. 2nd clue: quite obscure, from Turin. There's 1 pic in 1 book and that's all.
10301: 16\50 PS SPORT, 1923
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
100301: Yes! +5
1301: 1st useless clue, it's Italian. 2nd clue: quite obscure, from Turin. There's 1 pic in 1 book and that's all.
10301: 16\50 PS SPORT, 1923
1301 : So obscure... I'd better leave it.
10301 : another Benz (1) ?
#1401 and #10401, please. Thanks.
Quote from: pguillem on January 30, 2014, 02:42:59 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 02:13:33 PM
100301: Yes! +5
1301: 1st useless clue, it's Italian. 2nd clue: quite obscure, from Turin. There's 1 pic in 1 book and that's all.
10301: 16\50 PS SPORT, 1923
1301 : So obscure... I'd better leave it.
10301 : another Benz (1) ?
#1401 and #10401, please. Thanks.
1301: Yes, that's was the clue! It was a Topolino by G. Amerio. The name was AG (1)
10301: Yes!
10401:SPORTS 300 B60 SPORTS 300, 1956
1401:AIR DRIVE CAR 7-PASSENGER TOURING, 1914
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
#33333, please
1900 BERLINA 2 PORTE PININFARINA, 1953
I assume you haven't added 31,000 Alfa Romeos in the meantime, so it should be a Fiat.
#67678, please.
Quote from: Wendax on January 30, 2014, 03:26:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 29, 2014, 04:32:14 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 29, 2014, 03:17:46 PM
#33333, please
1900 BERLINA 2 PORTE PININFARINA, 1953
I assume you haven't added 31,000 Alfa Romeos in the meantime, so it should be a Fiat.
#67678, please.
Actually I had to slow down a bit...
Fiat is right!
67678:PAN AMERICAN 25 HP, 1920
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
10401:SPORTS 300 B60 SPORTS 300, 1956
1401:AIR DRIVE CAR 7-PASSENGER TOURING, 1914
10401 : Berkeley ?
1401 : the only air-drive car I can find is the Burt from 1932. May I have a hint ?
Next one : # 100401
Good night !
Quote from: pguillem on January 30, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 30, 2014, 03:04:10 PM
10401:SPORTS 300 B60 SPORTS 300, 1956
1401:AIR DRIVE CAR 7-PASSENGER TOURING, 1914
10401 : Berkeley ?
1401 : the only air-drive car I can find is the Burt from 1932. May I have a hint ?
Next one : # 100401
Good night !
10401:Yes...just a matter of numbers, now.
1401:Not Burt. 1st useless clue: It's from the states. 2nd clue: the name of that maker suggest a different kind of vehicles, nowadays.
100401: Gasoline Car, 1900
I need a clue, then.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2014, 03:08:32 PM
10401:Yes...just a matter of numbers, now.
1401:Not Burt. 1st useless clue: It's from the states. 2nd clue: the name of that maker suggest a different kind of vehicles, nowadays.
100401: Gasoline Car, 1900
10401 : I found a Berkeley from 1913. So, Berkeley (2) ?
1401 : I'm afraid that Google will not help me at all. Maybe #1501 instead ?
100401 : Locomobile ? If I'm wrong, could you give me a hint ? Thanks.
Quote from: Wendax on January 31, 2014, 04:09:33 PM
I need a clue, then.
1. Useless clue: active from 1920c to 1924c
2. Clue...French!
Quote from: pguillem on January 31, 2014, 09:30:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 31, 2014, 03:08:32 PM
10401:Yes...just a matter of numbers, now.
1401:Not Burt. 1st useless clue: It's from the states. 2nd clue: the name of that maker suggest a different kind of vehicles, nowadays.
100401: Gasoline Car, 1900
10401 : I found a Berkeley from 1913. So, Berkeley (2) ?
1401 : I'm afraid that Google will not help me at all. Maybe #1501 instead ?
100401 : Locomobile ? If I'm wrong, could you give me a hint ? Thanks.
10401: Yes!
1401: It was the Airmobile.
100401: Not Locomobile. 1clue: from the States. 2clue: only 1 car was ever built.
1501:GIANNINI 750 SPORT, 1949
Paul:
I have not given up; I've been working very long hours, and often don't have the gumption to work on this. I'll be back, in time.
It's a game and it can't be stressfull ;)
all of you can take your time to play or leave, there's no pressure.
I'm sending a PM to Faksta to propose a strategy to speed up his game, I'll let you know.
I have to quit 15017, too many chances.
May I have 45017, 65017 and 75017?
Quote from: targhediferro on February 03, 2014, 05:57:28 AM
I have to quit 15017, too many chances.
May I have 45017, 65017 and 75017?
15017:C&H (Corfield & Hurle Ltd, Stamford Hill, London)
45017: the model changed but the maker is still the same in this case. You already took this number. ;)
65017:TOURING, 1957
75017:MODEL 6-40 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1920
Sorry, I called the wrong number...85017 please.
Is 75017 a Pierce-Arrow 6-40 5 passenger 1920?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2014, 05:41:53 AM
10401 : I found a Berkeley from 1913. So, Berkeley (2) ?
1401 : I'm afraid that Google will not help me at all. Maybe #1501 instead ?
100401 : Locomobile ? If I'm wrong, could you give me a hint ? Thanks.
10401: Yes!
1401: It was the Airmobile.
100401: Not Locomobile. 1clue: from the States. 2clue: only 1 car was ever built.
1501:GIANNINI 750 SPORT, 1949
[/quote]
100401 : Is it the Autocar at the Henry Ford Museum ?
1501 : Is it that one ?
"
This Giannini 750 Sport with starting number 233 broke the speed record in its category during the 1949 Mille Miglia covering the 1.593 Km in 16h 55min which resulted in an average speed of 94 Km/h in a race from Brescia to Rome and back to Brescia over the Apenine mountains in 1949, a time when there were no motorways !"
If it's not, could you give me a hint ?
BTW, may I also have #10501 ?
Thanks.
Quote from: targhediferro on February 03, 2014, 10:36:59 AM
Sorry, I called the wrong number...85017 please.
85017:T2A SALOON TURBINE, 1954
Quote from: targhediferro on February 03, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
Is 75017 a Pierce-Arrow 6-40 5 passenger 1920?
Not that.
Quote from: pguillem on February 03, 2014, 12:19:08 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2014, 05:41:53 AM
10401 : I found a Berkeley from 1913. So, Berkeley (2) ?
1401 : I'm afraid that Google will not help me at all. Maybe #1501 instead ?
100401 : Locomobile ? If I'm wrong, could you give me a hint ? Thanks.
10401: Yes!
1401: It was the Airmobile.
100401: Not Locomobile. 1clue: from the States. 2clue: only 1 car was ever built.
1501:GIANNINI 750 SPORT, 1949
100401 : Is it the Autocar at the Henry Ford Museum ?
1501 : Is it that one ?
"
This Giannini 750 Sport with starting number 233 broke the speed record in its category during the 1949 Mille Miglia covering the 1.593 Km in 16h 55min which resulted in an average speed of 94 Km/h in a race from Brescia to Rome and back to Brescia over the Apenine mountains in 1949, a time when there were no motorways !"
If it's not, could you give me a hint ?
BTW, may I also have #10501 ?
Thanks.
[/quote]
100401: Nope, it can't be the Autocar. If 1401 was Airmobile, nearly 99000 numbers later it can't be starting with A!
1501: I would have told you just '750 Sport' then. In this case I'm after who built a particular Giannini-powered 750 sport.
1st clue: it's Italian, 2nd clue: mostly associated with the one of best known of the Etceterini
10501:8 HP UNICUM SPIDER, 1904
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2014, 05:37:31 AM
Quote from: Wendax on January 31, 2014, 04:09:33 PM
I need a clue, then.
1. Useless clue: active from 1920c to 1924c
2. Clue...French!
Then it has to be a Mourre.
# 40214, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
100401: Nope, it can't be the Autocar. If 1401 was Airmobile, nearly 99000 numbers later it can't be starting with A!
1501: I would have told you just '750 Sport' then. In this case I'm after who built a particular Giannini-powered 750 sport.
1st clue: it's Italian, 2nd clue: mostly associated with the one of best known of the Etceterini
10501:8 HP UNICUM SPIDER, 1904
100401 : Ransom E. Olds Motor Vehicle Company ?
1501 : Dagrada-Giannini ?
10501 : The only Unicum I can find is a Berna from 1904. But it's said to have a 5 HP engine. May I have a clue ?
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:41:55 AM
# 40214, please.
40214: 30\60 HP 3/4-PASSENGER ROADSTER, 1909
Quote from: pguillem on February 04, 2014, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 03, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
100401: Nope, it can't be the Autocar. If 1401 was Airmobile, nearly 99000 numbers later it can't be starting with A!
1501: I would have told you just '750 Sport' then. In this case I'm after who built a particular Giannini-powered 750 sport.
1st clue: it's Italian, 2nd clue: mostly associated with the one of best known of the Etceterini
10501:8 HP UNICUM SPIDER, 1904
100401 : Ransom E. Olds Motor Vehicle Company ?
1501 : Dagrada-Giannini ?
10501 : The only Unicum I can find is a Berna from 1904. But it's said to have a 5 HP engine. May I have a clue ?
Nox2
10501: Berna is correct!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
100401 : Ransom E. Olds Motor Vehicle Company ?
1501 : Dagrada-Giannini ?
10501 : The only Unicum I can find is a Berna from 1904. But it's said to have a 5 HP engine. May I have a clue ?
Nox2
10501: Berna is correct!
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100401 : I can't find it. May I have #100501 ?
1501 : Giaur ?
May I have also #10601 ?
Thanks.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:41:55 AM
# 40214, please.
40214: 30\60 HP 3/4-PASSENGER ROADSTER, 1909
A clue, please.
40214: From the States. Active from 1907 to 1909.
Aaah, I see. It is the Gearless Transmission Company of Rochester, NY.
#36546, please.
Quote from: pguillem on February 04, 2014, 02:47:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 11:28:22 AM
100401 : Ransom E. Olds Motor Vehicle Company ?
1501 : Dagrada-Giannini ?
10501 : The only Unicum I can find is a Berna from 1904. But it's said to have a 5 HP engine. May I have a clue ?
Nox2
10501: Berna is correct!
100401 : I can't find it. May I have #100501 ?
1501 : Giaur ?
May I have also #10601 ?
Thanks.
[/quote]
100401: WESTERN (2), Western Iron Works Inc., Los Angeles, California
1501: Not Giaur.
10601:TYPE X 40 HP TOURER, 1908c
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 04:33:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 11:49:59 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 11:25:40 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:41:55 AM
# 40214, please.
40214: 30\60 HP 3/4-PASSENGER ROADSTER, 1909
A clue, please.
40214: From the States. Active from 1907 to 1909.
Aaah, I see. It is the Gearless Transmission Company of Rochester, NY.
#36546, please.
Just a matter of numbers now.
36546: CUSTOM 500 V8 4-DOOR SEDAN, 1964
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2014, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
It is the Gearless Transmission Company of Rochester, NY.
#36546, please.
Just a matter of numbers now.
36546: CUSTOM 500 V8 4-DOOR SEDAN, 1964
I'll be looking for the Gearless number tonight.
#36546 should be Ford(1).
Quote from: Wendax on February 05, 2014, 04:59:50 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 05, 2014, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 04, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
It is the Gearless Transmission Company of Rochester, NY.
#36546, please.
Just a matter of numbers now.
36546: CUSTOM 500 V8 4-DOOR SEDAN, 1964
I'll be looking for the Gearless number tonight.
#36546 should be Ford(1).
It's a Ford, no number here. ;)
The Gearless should be Gearless(1).
#56382, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
1501: Not Giaur.
10601:TYPE X 40 HP TOURER, 1908c
1501 : Benedetti ?
10601 : Bertolet ?
If I'm right, I'll try #1601 and #10701. Thanks.
Quote from: Wendax on February 05, 2014, 12:18:25 PM
The Gearless should be Gearless(1).
#56382, please.
Yes.
56382: JS11-15, 1980
Quote from: pguillem on February 05, 2014, 01:41:06 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 04, 2014, 04:45:18 PM
1501: Not Giaur.
10601:TYPE X 40 HP TOURER, 1908c
1501 : Benedetti ?
10601 : Bertolet ?
If I'm right, I'll try #1601 and #10701. Thanks.
1501: Not Benedetti.
10601: Yes!
1601:MODEL 40 TOY TONNEAU, 1910
10701:FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 06, 2014, 03:58:30 PM
56382: JS11-15, 1980
That makes it a Ligier.
#22998, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 06, 2014, 04:16:17 PM
22998:MODEL E-52 ROADSTER, 1915
That's a Crow-Elkhart.
# 78963, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 06, 2014, 04:02:36 PM
1501: Not Benedetti.
10601: Yes!
1601:MODEL 40 TOY TONNEAU, 1910
10701:FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941
1501 : It should be an Etceterini make beginning with A, but it can't be Abarth. May I have a clue ?
1601 : ALCO ?
10701 : I don't find any corresponding fuoriserie. The only Victoria I have is the 1500 by Garavini. May I have a clue ?
#10710, please.
Thanks
Quote from: pguillem on February 07, 2014, 08:36:54 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 06, 2014, 04:02:36 PM
1501: Not Benedetti.
10601: Yes!
1601:MODEL 40 TOY TONNEAU, 1910
10701:FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941
1501 : It should be an Etceterini make beginning with A, but it can't be Abarth. May I have a clue ?
1601 : ALCO ?
10701 : I don't find any corresponding fuoriserie. The only Victoria I have is the 1500 by Garavini. May I have a clue ?
#10710, please.
Thanks
1501: It's Italian and the name is formed by more words...not surnames.
1601: Yes! Which one? Just a number is missing.
10701: Not Garavini. It's an italian coachbuilder, one of the biggest ones.
Active from 1902 to 1910 circa.
2 hyphenated words.
This one knows how to hide from me.
One more clue, please.
A decisive one now: from Belgium.
Bovy-D'Heyne?
# 12583, please.
P100, 1960
Bull's eye!
That's the Borgward 2,3 Liter aka P100, one of my favorite cars.
Just a matter of numbers, now.
Borgward (1)
:thumbsup:
# 93511, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2014, 04:36:13 AM
1501: It's Italian and the name is formed by more words...not surnames.
1601: Yes! Which one? Just a number is missing.
10701: Not Garavini. It's an italian coachbuilder, one of the biggest ones.
1501 : I don't have the Etceterini Register. My last guess will be Pasqualin Parisotti, even if the only car I'm aware of is a Lancia. If that's not good, I'll try #1701
1601 : ALCO first built some Berliets Under license. Maybe ALCO (2) ?
10701 : Pininfarina ? It built a Lancia Astura Victoria Coupe. If I'm right, please give me #10801
Thanks. Have a nice weekend
Quote from: pguillem on February 08, 2014, 03:17:04 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2014, 04:36:13 AM
1501: It's Italian and the name is formed by more words...not surnames.
1601: Yes! Which one? Just a number is missing.
10701: Not Garavini. It's an italian coachbuilder, one of the biggest ones.
1501 : I don't have the Etceterini Register. My last guess will be Pasqualin Parisotti, even if the only car I'm aware of is a Lancia. If that's not good, I'll try #1701
1601 : ALCO first built some Berliets Under license. Maybe ALCO (2) ?
10701 : Pininfarina ? It built a Lancia Astura Victoria Coupe. If I'm right, please give me #10801
Thanks. Have a nice weekend
1501: Don't give up. ;) Another clue: 1 word, 1 letter and 1 word: all 3-letter palindrome words, starting with 'A'!
1601: Not 2...
10701: Not Pininfarina.
1701:MORRIS MINI MINOR, 1960
10801:ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT SPECIALE SERIE II, 1959
T. Green?
Why I'm not surprised?
93667, please
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2014, 04:52:15 PM
1501: Don't give up. ;) Another clue: 1 word, 1 letter and 1 word: all 3-letter palindrome words, starting with 'A'!
1601: Not 2...
10701: Not Pininfarina.
1701:MORRIS MINI MINOR, 1960
10801:ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT SPECIALE SERIE II, 1959
1501 : two palindrome words starting with A, so something like A_A X A_A. My first Italian-like guess : ALA 1 ALA (with respect to Ala D'Oro")
1601 : ALCO (1) ?
1701 : many Minis. I suspect a kit car. May I have a clue ?
10801 : the racing version ?
To save weight, these racing versions had aluminum hood, trunk and doors, as well as plexiglass rear windows, and had no bumpers. Vehicle weight was less than 1,900 pounds. Compared to the later production cars, these pre-series cars also had a lower, more rounded front end, and are therefore commonly referred to as the 'low nose' configurationBuona notte !
Quote from: pguillem on February 08, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2014, 04:52:15 PM
1501: Don't give up. ;) Another clue: 1 word, 1 letter and 1 word: all 3-letter palindrome words, starting with 'A'!
1601: Not 2...
10701: Not Pininfarina.
1701:MORRIS MINI MINOR, 1960
10801:ALFA ROMEO GIULIETTA SPRINT SPECIALE SERIE II, 1959
1501 : two palindrome words starting with A, so something like A_A X A_A. My first Italian-like guess : ALA 1 ALA (with respect to Ala D'Oro")
1601 : ALCO (1) ?
1701 : many Minis. I suspect a kit car. May I have a clue ?
10801 : the racing version ?
To save weight, these racing versions had aluminum hood, trunk and doors, as well as plexiglass rear windows, and had no bumpers. Vehicle weight was less than 1,900 pounds. Compared to the later production cars, these pre-series cars also had a lower, more rounded front end, and are therefore commonly referred to as the 'low nose' configuration
Buona notte !
1501: The maker starts with A and there are 2 palindrome words: Ala d'Oro is correct! +50
1601: Yes! +50
1701: My index is simple, if I list a kit car, you'll find the model name and not the donor ;). In this case it means that this maker did something to a Morris Mini Minor and it can be listed under his name too.
10801; again, I listed this Alfa Romeo under another name too, because that other name did something to it. If you'll read "Aston Martin DB5 Shooting Brake" you'll knew right away the name I'm after is 'Radford'. If you read 'Lamborghini Countach' or 'De Tomaso Pantera' it can be 'Gandini' and so on. ;)
10701: ?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 09, 2014, 10:12:43 AM
1501: The maker starts with A and there are 2 palindrome words: Ala d'Oro is correct! +50
1601: Yes! +50
1701: My index is simple, if I list a kit car, you'll find the model name and not the donor ;). In this case it means that this maker did something to a Morris Mini Minor and it can be listed under his name too.
10801; again, I listed this Alfa Romeo under another name too, because that other name did something to it. If you'll read "Aston Martin DB5 Shooting Brake" you'll knew right away the name I'm after is 'Radford'. If you read 'Lamborghini Countach' or 'De Tomaso Pantera' it can be 'Gandini' and so on. ;)
10701: ?
1701 : Mini Van ?
10801 : your examples suggest the names of a designer. Nuccio Bertone ?
10701 : Grazie !
Quote from: pguillem on February 09, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 09, 2014, 10:12:43 AM
1501: The maker starts with A and there are 2 palindrome words: Ala d'Oro is correct! +50
1601: Yes! +50
1701: My index is simple, if I list a kit car, you'll find the model name and not the donor ;). In this case it means that this maker did something to a Morris Mini Minor and it can be listed under his name too.
10801; again, I listed this Alfa Romeo under another name too, because that other name did something to it. If you'll read "Aston Martin DB5 Shooting Brake" you'll knew right away the name I'm after is 'Radford'. If you read 'Lamborghini Countach' or 'De Tomaso Pantera' it can be 'Gandini' and so on. ;)
10701: ?
1701 : Mini Van ?
10801 : your examples suggest the names of a designer. Nuccio Bertone ?
10701 : Grazie !
1701: You should tell me a maker\designer\tuner\coachbuilder and so on, who worked on a Morris Mini Minor in the '60s. Given the number, 1701, you can assume it's starting with 'A', and my clue is that is quite known.
10801: Bertone it is!
10701: ?? I already gave you that number, (FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941). It's not Garavini or Pininfarina but one of the biggest ones.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 09, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
93667:10 HP TOURER WHITTINGHAM & MITCHEL, 1935
I guess this number was chosen too close to the last one. Whittingham & Mitchel built tourer bodies for the Talbot 10 hp, so it is (British) Talbot again.
# 94112, please.
Quote from: Wendax on February 10, 2014, 04:32:53 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 09, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
93667:10 HP TOURER WHITTINGHAM & MITCHEL, 1935
I guess this number was chosen too close to the last one. Whittingham & Mitchel built tourer bodies for the Talbot 10 hp, so it is (British) Talbot again.
# 94112, please.
Yes, not the same company (one was a Chrysler branch and this was the Clement Talbot Ltd, but you knwo that) and in this case too I won't ask for the number.
94112:TF66, 1966
Sorry, I can't find something about my last numbers; I have not a lot of time in these days so I think I'd better quit.
#94222, please
Quote from: targhediferro on February 10, 2014, 06:04:39 AM
Sorry, I can't find something about my last numbers; I have not a lot of time in these days so I think I'd better quit.
As you prefer, thank you for playing!
In case you change your idea here are the clues:
65017:TOURING, 1957 sounds like the start of a Spanish sentence to welcome someone in your house, but it's Japanese!
75017:MODEL 6-40 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1920, from the States, anagram of Demo Pint.
5017:T2A SALOON TURBINE, 1954, this is easy, from a series of British sperimental cars but you can't find this brand, it closed (but don't tell it to chinese people!)
You have your own list, haven't you? ;D
It is not as good as yours. ;D
#94255, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 10, 2014, 04:17:29 AM
1701: You should tell me a maker\designer\tuner\coachbuilder and so on, who worked on a Morris Mini Minor in the '60s. Given the number, 1701, you can assume it's starting with 'A', and my clue is that is quite known.
10801: Bertone it is!
10701: ?? I already gave you that number, (FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941). It's not Garavini or Pininfarina but one of the biggest ones.
1701 : Alec Issigonis ?
10701 : Allemano ?
May we continue with #100801 ?
Ciao,
:bag: :bag: :bag:
#11303 - ONE SIX TWO - a second hint maybe? :-[
#12062 - Pontiac - I'll use the first hint
Quote from: Wendax on February 10, 2014, 04:06:07 PM
It is not as good as yours. ;D
#94255, please.
SHADOWFAX, 1969
Quote from: pguillem on February 10, 2014, 04:49:30 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 10, 2014, 04:17:29 AM
1701: You should tell me a maker\designer\tuner\coachbuilder and so on, who worked on a Morris Mini Minor in the '60s. Given the number, 1701, you can assume it's starting with 'A', and my clue is that is quite known.
10801: Bertone it is!
10701: ?? I already gave you that number, (FIAT 1100 COUPE VICTORIA, 1941). It's not Garavini or Pininfarina but one of the biggest ones.
1701 : Alec Issigonis ?
10701 : Allemano ?
May we continue with #100801 ?
Ciao,
1701: Not Issigonis. Starts with 'A', ends with 'R' and contains an 'X'.
10701: Not Allemano. Clue: this number is very close to your 10801 guess.......
100801:MODEL GA 5-PASSENGER GASOLINE TONNEAU, 1910
Quote from: faksta on February 11, 2014, 01:07:59 AM
:bag: :bag: :bag:
#11303 - ONE SIX TWO - a second hint maybe? :-[
#12062 - Pontiac - I'll use the first hint
#11303: It's British.
#12062: Just 1906.
Still fishing for another manufacturer: # 94280, please
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 04:37:41 AM
Still fishing for another manufacturer: # 94280, please
MODEL K SPECIAL CONVERTIBLE COUPE, 1932
PJ
I'm afraid I'm going to have to abandon this puzzle. Tanks for letting me play - it was a blast! :thumbsup:
It's been a pleasure.
Just for information you had AC (1), ARMSTRONG (6) AND BABCOCK (1).
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 04:47:02 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 04:37:41 AM
Still fishing for another manufacturer: # 94280, please
MODEL K SPECIAL CONVERTIBLE COUPE, 1932
That's the (Essex-)Terraplane.
#94268, please.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 04:26:56 AM
1701: Not Issigonis. Starts with 'A', ends with 'R' and contains an 'X'.
10701: Not Allemano. Clue: this number is very close to your 10801 guess.......
100801:MODEL GA 5-PASSENGER GASOLINE TONNEAU, 1910
1701 : Alexander ?
10701 : Is it Balbo ? It bodied a Fiat 1400 Vittoria
100801 : White ?
Next choices ; #1901, #10901 and #100901, if the above answers are OK
Thanks.
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 04:47:02 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 04:37:41 AM
Still fishing for another manufacturer: # 94280, please
MODEL K SPECIAL CONVERTIBLE COUPE, 1932
That's the (Essex-)Terraplane.
#94268, please.
94268: 930S, late 80s
Quote from: pguillem on February 11, 2014, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 04:26:56 AM
1701: Not Issigonis. Starts with 'A', ends with 'R' and contains an 'X'.
10701: Not Allemano. Clue: this number is very close to your 10801 guess.......
100801:MODEL GA 5-PASSENGER GASOLINE TONNEAU, 1910
1701 : Alexander ?
10701 : Is it Balbo ? It bodied a Fiat 1400 Vittoria
100801 : White ?
Next choices ; #1901, #10901 and #100901, if the above answers are OK
Thanks.
1701: Yes!
10701: Not Balbo...that is close, but I said VERY close ;)
100801: Yes! Just a matter of numbers now.
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
94268: 930S, late 80s
A clue. please.
Quite obscure. From California. Reported in just an issue of a magazine about Kit Cars but without further details...same company seems to be operating in Canada in 2007 but as a repair and paint shop.
All the above is the useless clue.
The name is quite long, 4 words. Last one is 'coachworks'.
Quote from: pguillem on February 11, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 01:04:52 PM
1701: Yes!
10701: Boneschi ?
100801: White (1) ?
10701: not Boneschi...very close to 10801, and your 10801 was quite a prolific name... ;)
100801: not 1...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:03:35 AM
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94268: 930S, late 80s
A clue. please.
Quite obscure. From California. Reported in just an issue of a magazine about Kit Cars but without further details...same company seems to be operating in Canada in 2007 but as a repair and paint shop.
All the above is the useless clue.
The name is quite long, 4 words. Last one is 'coachworks'.
Sounds as if I should skip this one.
#93939, please.
OK, but if I tell you that first word was a number?
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:05:45 AM
10701: not Boneschi...very close to 10801, and your 10801 was quite a prolific name... ;)
100801: not 1...
10701 : very close to 10801, which was a prolific name. I think I don't catch the hint. I'm thinking of Bartoletti and Bianchi, but both of them don't seem very goog guesses. Another hint ?
100801 : White (2) ?
Quote from: pguillem on February 14, 2014, 12:39:34 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:05:45 AM
10701: not Boneschi...very close to 10801, and your 10801 was quite a prolific name... ;)
100801: not 1...
10701 : very close to 10801, which was a prolific name. I think I don't catch the hint. I'm thinking of Bartoletti and Bianchi, but both of them don't seem very goog guesses. Another hint ?
100801 : White (2) ?
10701: those are close...yours is VERY close and since 10801 was very prolific, you can assume I listed more than 100 models under that name! I won't penalize you, I know I've not been that clear. ;)
100801: Yes!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:03:35 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
94268: 930S, late 80s
A clue. please.
Quite obscure. From California. Reported in just an issue of a magazine about Kit Cars but without further details...same company seems to be operating in Canada in 2007 but as a repair and paint shop.
All the above is the useless clue.
The name is quite long, 4 words. Last one is 'coachworks'.
With the "first word is a number" hint given, it must be Ten Quality Custom Coach Works.
Quote from: Wendax on February 14, 2014, 03:29:44 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:03:35 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 11, 2014, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 11, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
94268: 930S, late 80s
A clue. please.
Quite obscure. From California. Reported in just an issue of a magazine about Kit Cars but without further details...same company seems to be operating in Canada in 2007 but as a repair and paint shop.
All the above is the useless clue.
The name is quite long, 4 words. Last one is 'coachworks'.
With the "first word is a number" hint given, it must be Ten Quality Custom Coach Works.
Yes! I have it as 'Coachworks' but that's it!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
I guess I need a clue.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 14, 2014, 03:07:38 AM
10701: those are close...yours is VERY close and since 10801 was very prolific, you can assume I listed more than 100 models under that name! I won't penalize you, I know I've not been that clear. ;)
100801: Yes!
10701 : assuming that it is a carrozzeria... Boano ?
Quote from: Wendax on February 14, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
I guess I need a clue.
Active till 1907 circa. Production started, according to different sources in 1900 (or 1897 and 1899 according to others!)
1908 is a crucial year for the company.
Quote from: pguillem on February 14, 2014, 11:22:40 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 14, 2014, 03:07:38 AM
10701: those are close...yours is VERY close and since 10801 was very prolific, you can assume I listed more than 100 models under that name! I won't penalize you, I know I've not been that clear. ;)
100801: Yes!
10701 : assuming that it is a carrozzeria... Boano ?
10801 was Bertone...that was a very prolific name: I have more than 100 models listed under Bertone's name. Your next number is 10701, very close (100 numbers) to a name that made more than 100 models...I can't be more specific than that ;)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 15, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 14, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
I guess I need a clue.
Active till 1907 circa. Production started, according to different sources in 1900 (or 1897 and 1899 according to others!)
1908 is a crucial year for the company.
Still can't find it. :( Another clue, please.
Quote from: Wendax on February 16, 2014, 03:30:20 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 15, 2014, 06:02:22 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 14, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
I guess I need a clue.
Active till 1907 circa. Production started, according to different sources in 1900 (or 1897 and 1899 according to others!)
1908 is a crucial year for the company.
Still can't find it. :( Another clue, please.
Let's say that nationality will reveal too much! They did cars with 1,2,3 and 4 cylinders, one of them had a Benz engine.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 15, 2014, 06:05:09 AM
10801 was Bertone...that was a very prolific name: I have more than 100 models listed under Bertone's name. Your next number is 10701, very close (100 numbers) to a name that made more than 100 models...I can't be more specific than that ;)
Maybe I was going in the wrong direction. I always thought that the 100 models listed Under Bertone's name were beginning at #10801, so my next guess (Flaminio Bertoni) would be around #10901. Quite improbable, as Bertoni was working for Citroën. But who knows if #10701 was also Bertone ? It would explain your hint to Bertone being very prolific.
So, my final answer is : Bertone. If it's not, I must confess my total ignorance. Sorry, and thanks for your help.
Quote from: pguillem on February 16, 2014, 10:36:00 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 15, 2014, 06:05:09 AM
10801 was Bertone...that was a very prolific name: I have more than 100 models listed under Bertone's name. Your next number is 10701, very close (100 numbers) to a name that made more than 100 models...I can't be more specific than that ;)
Maybe I was going in the wrong direction. I always thought that the 100 models listed Under Bertone's name were beginning at #10801, so my next guess (Flaminio Bertoni) would be around #10901. Quite improbable, as Bertoni was working for Citroën. But who knows if #10701 was also Bertone ? It would explain your hint to Bertone being very prolific.
So, my final answer is : Bertone. If it's not, I must confess my total ignorance. Sorry, and thanks for your help.
Yes, Bertone it is!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 16, 2014, 04:12:33 AM
Quote from: Wendax on February 16, 2014, 03:30:20 AM
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Quote from: Wendax on February 14, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 13, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
#93939: 3-cylinder car, around 1900
I guess I need a clue.
Active till 1907 circa. Production started, according to different sources in 1900 (or 1897 and 1899 according to others!)
1908 is a crucial year for the company.
Still can't find it. :( Another clue, please.
Let's say that nationality will reveal too much! They did cars with 1,2,3 and 4 cylinders, one of them had a Benz engine.
Should this be the Tarrant from Australia?
Yes!
# 37562, please
THUNDERBIRD PPG, 1984
That's a Ford.
Yes!
# 77463, please.
FURY 4-DOOR SEDAN, 1964
Yes, which one?
Plymouth (2)
# 6437, please
Hello again ! My next choices ; #1901, #10901 and #100901 please.
Thanks
Quote from: Wendax on February 19, 2014, 01:25:24 PM
Plymouth (2)
# 6437, please
6437:6-39 BEAUTY SIX COUPE, 1919
Quote from: pguillem on February 19, 2014, 01:35:20 PM
Hello again ! My next choices ; #1901, #10901 and #100901 please.
Thanks
1901: 6C 1750 GRAN SPORT SERIE V COUPE-SPIDER AERODINAMICO ZAGATO, 1931
10901: ALFA ROMEO GT 1300 JUNIOR, 1969
100901: MODEL GE GASOLINE 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1911
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 10, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on February 10, 2014, 06:04:39 AM
Sorry, I can't find something about my last numbers; I have not a lot of time in these days so I think I'd better quit.
As you prefer, thank you for playing!
In case you change your idea here are the clues:
65017:TOURING, 1957 sounds like the start of a Spanish sentence to welcome someone in your house, but it's Japanese!
75017:MODEL 6-40 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1920, from the States, anagram of Demo Pint.
5017:T2A SALOON TURBINE, 1954, this is easy, from a series of British sperimental cars but you can't find this brand, it closed (but don't tell it to chinese people!)
anyone wanna find these?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2014, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 10, 2014, 02:52:53 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on February 10, 2014, 06:04:39 AM
Sorry, I can't find something about my last numbers; I have not a lot of time in these days so I think I'd better quit.
As you prefer, thank you for playing!
In case you change your idea here are the clues:
65017:TOURING, 1957 sounds like the start of a Spanish sentence to welcome someone in your house, but it's Japanese!
75017:MODEL 6-40 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1920, from the States, anagram of Demo Pint.
5017:T2A SALOON TURBINE, 1954, this is easy, from a series of British sperimental cars but you can't find this brand, it closed (but don't tell it to chinese people!)
anyone wanna find these?
65017: Mikasa
75017: Piedmont
Yes, (Piedmont 2)!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
1901: 6C 1750 GRAN SPORT SERIE V COUPE-SPIDER AERODINAMICO ZAGATO, 1931
10901: ALFA ROMEO GT 1300 JUNIOR, 1969
100901: MODEL GE GASOLINE 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1911
1901 : it should be Alfa Romeo, but I just fin a 8C 2300 aerodinamico Zagato. Strange
10901 : Zagato ?
100901 : may I have a hint ?
Thanks
Quote from: pguillem on February 20, 2014, 10:51:07 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 19, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
1901: 6C 1750 GRAN SPORT SERIE V COUPE-SPIDER AERODINAMICO ZAGATO, 1931
10901: ALFA ROMEO GT 1300 JUNIOR, 1969
100901: MODEL GE GASOLINE 5-PASSENGER TOURING, 1911
1901 : it should be Alfa Romeo, but I just fin a 8C 2300 aerodinamico Zagato. Strange
10901 : Zagato ?
100901 : may I have a hint ?
Thanks
1901: Alfa Romeo is correct.
10901: 10.701 and 10.801 were Bertone...Zagato is around 103.300. I have more than 400 cars under Bertone and given the fact that I'm updating my list daily, they seem to be even more...but that's another Bertone!
100.901: Very, very close to your 100.801: White (2)!
Now, faksta told me he can't keep playing anymore and we can call it solved!
Have you got one last number?
My last number is 73127
TYPE O, 1905 circa
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 24, 2014, 07:11:48 AM
TYPE O, 1905 circa
What a nice way to finish this puzzle (hopefully) with a car of one of the finest makers: Panhard.
Yes!
Thank you all for playing! :applause:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 24, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
Yes!
Thank you all for playing! :applause:
You probably have the most complete encyclopedia. Grazie Mille ! :faint: :faint: :faint: