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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2014 => Topic started by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2014, 04:17:42 PM
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What is this?
1 point for you!
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1936 Dubonnet, designed by Andreau, powered by a Ford V8 engine
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Not that... ;)
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Any connection to Andreau?
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Walter Dorfin connection?
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The rights relating to the revolutionary DuBonnet Dolphin prototype were sold to the Ford Motor Company in 1936. Ford worked on an aerodynamic project car using some Dolphin ideas, but added other features, including four wheel steering. The Ford was never produced, but may have qualified for some patents. The puzzle drawings appear to resemble patent drawings, and show four wheel steering. Therefore, might these be drawings for a Ford aerodynamic project car, based on DuBonnet Dolphin principles, but including four wheel steering?
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Any connection to Andreau?
Nope.
Walter Dorfin connection?
I really don't think.
The rights relating to the revolutionary DuBonnet Dolphin prototype were sold to the Ford Motor Company in 1936. Ford worked on an aerodynamic project car using some Dolphin ideas, but added other features, including four wheel steering. The Ford was never produced, but may have qualified for some patents. The puzzle drawings appear to resemble patent drawings, and show four wheel steering. Therefore, might these be drawings for a Ford aerodynamic project car, based on DuBonnet Dolphin principles, but including four wheel steering?
This 'drawing' predates the DuBonnet of several years. ;)
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Mac Quay Norris four doors project?
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Not that.
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Is it European?
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Yes!
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Tatra project?
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Not that...
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British?
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Not British.
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Italiano?
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A design by Emile Claveau from about 1928?
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Italiano?
Yes!
A design by Emile Claveau from about 1928?
No.
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Lancia A10 connection?
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Not that I'm aware of.
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The 1st guess was wrong, but it could lead you to the solution.
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Easter gift:
The 1st guess was wrong, but it could lead you to the solution.
You have a streamlined car, you said it's pretty close to a well known one but this one predates the other....can they be related? Or not?
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If it is not a Dubonnet, is it at least an Andreau design?
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Not Andreau.
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Is it Dubonnet?
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Is it Dubonnet?
Still not. ;)
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Antoine-Marie Chedru involved?
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The name is Italian. ;)
Not Antoine-Marie Chedru.
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Any famous constructor involved?
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Nope.
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Maybe some prototype by Luca Barnocchi?
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Nope...
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I think my clue passed unnoticed: it's not a Dubonnet because it predates it of several years...but that car can lead you to the solution and they can be indeed related...
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Giovanni Delfino?
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:lmao:
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Giovanni Delfino?
Nope.
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There are info about this car online too.
The man you are looking for was better known for his involvement with another manufacturer and its GP cars...
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Ricotti?
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Not Ricotti.
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According to some sources, this project was probably known by Dubonnet ;)
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This car was designed few years before Dubonnet's car and its design was patented the year before the Dolphin appeared.
Its designer proposed his design to a well-known French make, that year....
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Ok, let's get it solved!
This man is closely linked to 2 famous italian brands (and they are connected together)...one still alive and one is long gone but not too obscure.
I'll lock it for who will find the 2 brands...and they are quite easy!
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Fiat & SPA? If so, is the designer that we are looking for Michele Ansaldi?
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Not Fiat & Spa or Ansaldi.
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Lancia and Chiribiri?
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Not them...
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Maserati and Osca?
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Maserati and Osca?
Wrong pair... ;)
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Alfa Romeo & Isotta Fraschini? If so, is the designer that we are looking for Giuseppe Merosi?
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Alfa Romeo & Isotta Fraschini? If so, is the designer that we are looking for Giuseppe Merosi?
Not them...
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Maserati and Diatto?
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Maserati and Diatto?
Bingo!
Locked for you now...it won't take long. ;)
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Giuseppe Coda is the name we are looking for. He proposed this design to Citroen.
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:bow: :applause: :applause:
Yes...but the original idea had some special features that went lost in the realization of Dubonnet's car.
From Daniele Neri's interview with Luigi Fittipaldi:
(Automatic Translation)
'It was Ernesto Maserati that a
day, praising the genius of Eng.
Coda, told me that a rich
French Industrial, pilot
and car manufacturer,
Andre Dubonnet, has built in
1936 an aerodynamic car
inspired by the project that Eng.
Coda had patented in 1935.
I later learned that Eng. Coda was very disappointed
by that, because he had
proposed his avant-garde project
to Citroen during his stay in Paris and then
back to Milan, again to Citroen
after he patented his idea in 1935.
He did not have the support for the realization
and a prototype for more
developments of the project. But Dubonnet's aerodynamic vehicle,
called "Dauphin"
(Delfino), lacked the support of
study on the aerodynamics of the body
and cage "carrier" thanks to which Coda removed the
spars, and many other solutions
absolutely avant-garde.'