Solved: PN #655 -- Bertrand, 1901

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 12:29:01 AM

Did this company exist prior to 1900?

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 01:11:50 AM

according to the website which tracks the history of this brand, the company launched its first model in 1900 and was gone by the end of 1902

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 02:09:07 AM

Vilain from 1901/1902?

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 02:32:27 AM

no

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 02:38:25 AM

The only other Parisian firm in my data base that remotely fits the criteria supposedly used only Buchet engines, not De Dion, but I will give it a try. Renaux from 1901/1902?

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 02:40:22 AM

no

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 02:48:50 AM

Surely not Soncin (they look nothing like the puzzle car, and made their own engines)?

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 03:35:39 AM

no

btw I found a source which mentioned four different engine sources, including DeDion

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 03:57:21 AM

At the moment I have no more possibilities for the exact dates that you mentioned (1900-1902), but I have a couple of possibilities with very similar dates, and who used De Dion engines. So I will try them, for, as we know, sometime dates vary depending on the source, and I will put the dates I have in parentheses. First, I will try Empress (1899-1901).

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 04:14:24 AM

remember, there is a website devoted to this car.
Not Empress

4popoid · July 17, 2014, 01:58:34 PM

I finally found it! Bertrand 1901!

pnegyesi · July 17, 2014, 02:21:37 PM

perseverance is a great element of success

Wendax · August 01, 2014, 04:56:29 PM

Another picture:

pnegyesi · August 04, 2014, 04:56:07 AM

nice, thank you

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Solved: PN #655 -- Bertrand, 1901