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Title: Solved TGF-301: Autovia AV1 Minas Y Ferrocarril de Utrillas, Zaragoza, by Seida
Post by: targhediferro on December 08, 2013, 08:07:09 AM
Can you identify this vehicle?  I'd like to know where it was used, the company name and which engine it used?
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Post by: targhediferro on December 25, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
I'm sure there is a Professional who knows this vehicle.
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Post by: Wendax on December 25, 2013, 04:12:08 PM
A rail car? If so, is it a Tatra?
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Post by: targhediferro on December 25, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
Yes, it's a sort of rail car, but not a Tatra.
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 02, 2014, 03:27:41 PM
It looks very french.

Maybe a Renault?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 04:11:06 PM
Not French, so not a Renault.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 02, 2014, 04:20:50 PM
Is it from Holland?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 02, 2014, 06:04:09 PM
Not from Holland.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 03, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
European?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 03, 2014, 04:19:03 PM
Yes, European.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2014, 07:42:44 PM
German?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 07, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Not German.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 07, 2014, 09:56:32 PM
Eastern Europe?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2014, 04:22:23 AM
Not from Eastern Europe.
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Post by: Wendax on January 08, 2014, 04:23:10 AM
Scandinavian?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2014, 05:34:19 AM
Not Scandinavian.
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Post by: Bill Murray on January 08, 2014, 06:24:35 AM
Hispanic country?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 08, 2014, 07:00:29 AM
Swiss?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2014, 07:30:25 AM
Quote from: Bill Murray on January 08, 2014, 06:24:35 AM
Hispanic country?
Yes...so not Swiss.
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Post by: thorax on January 08, 2014, 08:33:17 AM
Eucort?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 08, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Not Eucort.  Remember that I'm not searching for a marque, but for the denomination of this vehicle, for the operator and it's engine.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 08, 2014, 10:09:05 PM
Ferrobus?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 09, 2014, 01:24:11 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 08, 2014, 10:09:05 PM
Ferrobus?
Yes, I presume it can be considered a sort of ferrobus, but this is not its name.
Title: Re: TGF-301
Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2014, 08:04:15 AM
It is the Autovia AV1, a five-seater railcar. It was used in Zaragoza by MFU (Minas y Ferrocarril de Utrillas). The bodywork was done by Seida.

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Post by: targhediferro on January 09, 2014, 01:21:28 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 09, 2014, 08:04:15 AM
It is the Autovia AV1, a five-seater railcar. It was used in Zaragoza by MFU (Minas y Ferrocarril de Utrillas). The bodywork was done by Seida.
Absolutely correct. Locked for Wendax to add the engine it used.
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Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2014, 01:24:08 PM
They didn't say where I found it, but it was a page about Hispano-Suiza-engined trolleybuses, so I just guess that the AV1 had a Hispano-Suiza engine as well.
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 09, 2014, 01:31:59 PM
 :applause:
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Post by: targhediferro on January 10, 2014, 08:34:43 AM
I apologize, but I cannot find the source where I found another engine marque, (Ford);  so I'll consider this quiz solved and I give a well earned point to Wendax. 
Title: Re: Solved TGF-301: Autovia AV1 Minas Y Ferrocarril de Utrillas, Zaragoza, by Seida
Post by: Wendax on January 10, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Solved TGF-301: Autovia AV1 Minas Y Ferrocarril de Utrillas, Zaragoza, by Seida
Post by: Bill Murray on January 10, 2014, 09:01:54 AM
Interesting puzzle.

Because of my research on draisenes/railroad inspection cars for a future thread, I too had partially solved the puzzle but could not verify the engine maker.  I suspect Gerd and I were using the same source.

In any case, to round out a bit more on the vehicle, here are two photos, one of the completed vehicle and another of the concept drawings of AV1 and AV2.

Bill
Title: Re: Solved TGF-301: Autovia AV1 Minas Y Ferrocarril de Utrillas, Zaragoza, by Seida
Post by: Tom_I on January 10, 2014, 10:00:45 AM
The puzzle picture can be found on Flickr, with a brief caption which mentions a Ford engine.

QuoteFerrocarril Utrillas Zaragoza Automotor Seida.

Carroceria e del autovia AV 1 . Construido por Seida en 1943. Dadas la penalidades de la posguerra se utilizo un motor de Ford A propiedad de la compañia MFU para motorizarlo. Funcionaba a gasolina y tenía 17 caballos.
Title: Re: Solved TGF-301: Autovia AV1 Minas Y Ferrocarril de Utrillas, Zaragoza, by Seida
Post by: Bill Murray on January 10, 2014, 12:05:24 PM
Thanks for the tip, Tom!!

That site and a couple of linked sites adds more to my research on draisines/track inspection cars.

Bill