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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2014 => Topic started by: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 04:32:07 AM

Title: Solved TGF-322: Austro-Daimler by Healey & Co, NY
Post by: targhediferro on December 31, 2013, 04:32:07 AM
I'd like to have an answer with Maker, model and coachbuilder.
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Post by: targhediferro on January 15, 2014, 04:29:49 AM
No interest among Experts. Up
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Post by: nicanary on January 15, 2014, 05:36:58 AM
Bianchi ?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 15, 2014, 07:04:57 AM
Not a Bianchi.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 15, 2014, 07:47:20 PM
Italian marque?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 16, 2014, 12:43:16 AM
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 16, 2014, 01:42:43 AM
European marque?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 16, 2014, 03:19:28 AM
Yes, the car is European.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 16, 2014, 03:29:03 AM
French marque?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 16, 2014, 03:45:39 AM
not french.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 16, 2014, 03:49:05 AM
German marque?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 16, 2014, 09:06:38 AM
not German.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 16, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
Belgian marque?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 04:25:11 AM
not Belgian.
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Post by: Wendax on January 17, 2014, 04:33:55 AM
Spanish?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 06:53:11 AM
Neither Spanish.
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Post by: Wendax on January 17, 2014, 06:57:30 AM
Austrian?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 07:25:47 AM
Ja, Osterreich.
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Post by: Wendax on January 17, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Austro-Fiat?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 08:53:56 AM
Not Austro-Fiat.
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Post by: Wendax on January 17, 2014, 09:25:27 AM
WAF (Wiener Automobil-Fabrik)?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 17, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
RAF?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 09:40:18 AM
Not WAF and not RAF.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 17, 2014, 01:15:18 PM
1910?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 01:43:19 PM
I don't know the correct year, but I suppose it's a bit younger.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 17, 2014, 04:15:10 PM
Austro-Daimler 13/32 Torpedo-Limousine by Armbruster from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 17, 2014, 05:37:23 PM
It's an Austro-Daimler, I presume it actually is a 13/32 model, but it's not by Armbruster.
Locked for another guess.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 17, 2014, 06:16:03 PM
Austro-Daimler Double-Phaeton by Schafranek from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 04:00:51 AM
Not Schafranek.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 18, 2014, 08:53:16 AM
Keibl?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 10:02:56 AM
Not Keibl.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 18, 2014, 10:52:18 AM
Wieser&Sohn?
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 12:48:50 PM
Austro-Daimler by Lohner from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Twice not.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 01:12:45 PM
Austro-Daimler by Czerny from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 01:34:22 PM
Not Czerny.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 01:48:02 PM
Austro-Daimler by ÖFAG from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 02:38:33 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 01:48:02 PM
Austro-Daimler by ÖFAG from about 1912?
Neither that one.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Austro-Daimler by Köllensperger from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 04:52:42 PM
Not Kollensperger.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 05:27:05 PM
Last one on my current list (assuming that the coachbuilder is Austrian): Austro-Daimler by Anton Karner from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 05:54:31 PM
Not Karner...and not Austrian coachbuilder.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
I was beginning to think that the coachbuilder was not Austrian, since all of those normally associated with Austro-Daimler were incorrect.  As this car is probably pre-1918, the territory once called Czechoslovakia would have been part of Austria.  I'll try a Czech coachbuilder who did Austro-Daimler.  Might the coachbuilder be Petera? 
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Post by: targhediferro on January 18, 2014, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
I was beginning to think that the coachbuilder was not Austrian, since all of those normally associated with Austro-Daimler were incorrect.  As this car is probably pre-1918, the territory once called Czechoslovakia would have been part of Austria.  I'll try a Czech coachbuilder who did Austro-Daimler.  Might the coachbuilder be Petera? 
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 18, 2014, 06:41:47 PM
You didn't say if the coachbuilder was Czech, but I will assume it isn't and move on to Germany.  In 1911 Austro-Daimler asked Ernst Neumann-Neander to design a car for the Berlin Autoshow.  At the time he worked for Delmenhorster Wagenfabrik.  Might this be the Austro-Daimler by Delmenhorster Wagenfabrik?   
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Post by: targhediferro on January 19, 2014, 05:26:52 AM
Not Ernst Neumann-Neander, not Delmenhorster W., not Czech...and not Germany.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 19, 2014, 05:57:11 AM
D'Ieteren?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 19, 2014, 08:40:12 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 19, 2014, 05:57:11 AM
D'Ieteren?
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 19, 2014, 02:30:38 PM
Austro-Daimler by Swedish coachbuilder Hofslageri?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 19, 2014, 02:47:34 PM
Not a Swedish coachbuilder.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 21, 2014, 01:20:54 AM
I'm pretty much at a loss.  Have we ruled out Belgium, or just D'Ieteren?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 21, 2014, 05:42:09 AM
Not Belgian coachbuilder.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 21, 2014, 01:52:54 PM
Although I haven't been able to locate a carrossier in Switzerland who worked on Austro-Daimler, I have to start somewhere, and Switzerland is adjacent to Austria.  So, is the coachbuilder Swiss?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 21, 2014, 03:25:19 PM
Not from Switzerland.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 21, 2014, 04:52:16 PM
Italian coachbuilder?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 21, 2014, 05:37:25 PM
Not Italian.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 21, 2014, 05:45:59 PM
Well it doesn't look French, but I've got to ask.  Is the coachbuilder French?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 21, 2014, 05:52:21 PM
Neither French.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 21, 2014, 06:04:11 PM
Hmmmm.  Perhaps I had better ask: Is the coachbuilder European?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 22, 2014, 10:18:44 AM
No, not European...sorry, I was tempted to tell you more than once, but this is Autopuzzles!
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 22, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
North American coachbuilder?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 22, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 22, 2014, 11:59:21 AM
North American coachbuilder?
Yes.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 22, 2014, 03:04:35 PM
Austro-Daimler by Brewster from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 09:09:58 AM
Not Brewster, a more obscure one.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
Austro-Daimler by J. M. Quinby & Co. from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 12:30:54 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
Austro-Daimler by J. M. Quinby & Co. from about 1912?
Not that one.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
Austro-Daimler by A.T. Demarest  & Co. from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 01:04:07 PM
Austro-Daimler by A.T. Demarest  & Co. from about 1912?
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Austro-Daimler by the Derham Body Co. from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 23, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 03:52:19 PM
Austro-Daimler by the Derham Body Co. from about 1912?
I'm sorry, but I must tell you "no" once more.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 06:36:07 PM
Austro-Daimler by Willoughby & Co. from about 1912?.
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Post by: targhediferro on January 24, 2014, 05:32:51 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 23, 2014, 06:36:07 PM
Austro-Daimler by Willoughby & Co. from about 1912?.
Not Willoughby & Co.
A little help...this coachbuilder name is the same of another car manufacturer.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
That hint ought to make it easy, assuming the other car manufacturer is from North America.  The first one that comes to mind is: Austro-Daimler by Biddle & Smart from about 1912?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 24, 2014, 02:26:37 PM
No, and the other car manufacturer is not American.
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Post by: 4popoid on January 24, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Unless the puzzle car was rebodied later (and the photograph doesn't look like it), the only American coachbuilder, having a foreign motorcar name, that fits the approx. 1912 time frame, that I can think of, would be Healey & Company of New York City.  They existed much prior to the Donald Healey Motor Company, but they bore the same Healey name, and the dressed expensive foreign and domestic motorcars, although I have no reference that says they ever did an Austro-Daimler.
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Post by: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 02:43:57 AM
Yes!  ;D
You got the right one; I'm happy you reached this hard target. A very well deserved point for you; I'm now typing with a smart-phone, but when I'll be at home I post the unmolested picture with the overwritten caption.
Title: Re: Solved TGF-322: Austro-Daimler by Healey & Co, NY
Post by: targhediferro on January 25, 2014, 11:16:47 AM
Here you are the unmolested picture.
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