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Title: Solved TGF-382: Ford with Universal body by R.Mc Reynolds.
Post by: targhediferro on March 31, 2014, 09:29:57 AM
Can you identify this vehicle?  I want to know the base car and the maker and the name of this body.
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Post by: Majeko on April 05, 2014, 02:30:05 PM
European?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 05, 2014, 06:18:52 PM
No, not European.
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Post by: AlexFrance on April 06, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
Is it from South America?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 06, 2014, 05:23:12 PM
Not from south America.
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Post by: Majeko on April 11, 2014, 06:47:30 PM
USA?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 12, 2014, 02:07:14 AM
Yes, USA.
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Post by: Majeko on April 15, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
Does the maker still exist?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 15, 2014, 06:03:56 PM
Yes.
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Post by: Majeko on April 16, 2014, 02:19:46 PM
Cadillac?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 16, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Not Cadillac.
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Post by: Majeko on April 16, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
Dodge?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 16, 2014, 06:04:28 PM
Not a Dodge.
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Post by: Majeko on April 17, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Ford?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 17, 2014, 01:49:37 PM
Yes, it's a Ford.
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Post by: Majeko on April 19, 2014, 05:57:59 PM
Ford Model A 4 door Pheaton 1928?
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Post by: targhediferro on April 19, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
I'm not sure about the model, but I'd rather say it's a late Ford T.
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Post by: targhediferro on May 15, 2014, 06:08:30 AM
Professionals' time.
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Post by: nicanary on May 15, 2014, 08:20:17 AM
Is it one of the Australian Fords "improved" by Browns of Melbourne ?
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Post by: 4popoid on May 15, 2014, 01:05:04 PM
Perhaps an Autowa, by the Ottawa Body Company of Ottawa, Illinois, USA, on a Ford Model T base.
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Post by: targhediferro on May 15, 2014, 05:43:45 PM
Not Australian and not Autowa.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 15, 2014, 06:37:11 PM
Is the custom body also from the USA?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 16, 2014, 03:24:56 AM
Yes, from USA.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 16, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
A Mengel Body Company (Louisville, KY, USA) Meritas clad composite body on a Ford Model T base from about 1926?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 17, 2014, 03:23:58 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on May 16, 2014, 06:10:01 PM
A Mengel Body Company (Louisville, KY, USA) Meritas clad composite body on a Ford Model T base from about 1926?
Not that company.   Please, remember that I suppose it is a Ford T base, but I'm not sure about it.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 17, 2014, 03:33:45 AM
A Dayton Body Company (Dayton, OH, USA) Dayton Classi Body on a Ford Model T base from about 1926?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 17, 2014, 03:35:39 PM
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 17, 2014, 10:50:59 PM
An Ames Body Corporation (Owensboro, KY, USA) Ames-bilt Cloverleaf Body on a Ford Model T base from about 1925?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 18, 2014, 08:13:46 AM
No.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 19, 2014, 02:04:46 AM
A Lehmann-Peterson Co. (Indianapolis, IN, USA) Lamco Body on a Ford Model T base from about 1926?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 19, 2014, 06:51:29 AM
Not that one.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 21, 2014, 01:58:03 AM
I need to tighten up the geography, as there are too many coachbuilders that made aftermarket bodies for Ford.  Is the coachbuilder that I am searching for from the Northeast Central United States (West of the Allegheny Mountains, North of the Ohio River and East of the Mississippi River)?   
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Post by: targhediferro on May 21, 2014, 05:59:07 AM
I'm sorry, but I know very little about this coachbuilder;  on the side of this car (on the White paper) you can read the name of this body, and the name of the firm:  --------- body, by -------- & Son.  Than you have an address but not the city...and I haven't found other news about them.
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Post by: 4popoid on May 21, 2014, 04:58:24 PM
One last try.  They are probably too well known, but otherwise are the only name I can think of that fits your criteria.  Is the coachbuilder: F. B. Wood & Son?
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Post by: targhediferro on May 22, 2014, 01:50:09 AM
No, the name of the body is 9 letters long, the coachbuilder's one is 8.
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2014, 01:55:22 AM
cabriolet body?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 19, 2014, 06:35:21 AM
Not "Cabriolet".
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2014, 06:46:17 AM
Landaulet?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 19, 2014, 10:44:21 AM
Not Landaulet.  I want to give you a clue:  The Body name isn't a proper body definition, but  some Makers of a European State, used it to describe a kind of vehicle during late '50 and '60 (and perhaps later on, but I don't know)...a kind of vehicle different from quiz car.
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Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2014, 12:03:34 PM
Speedster?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 20, 2014, 12:39:27 AM
Not Speedster.
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Post by: oko94 on June 20, 2014, 02:45:49 AM
Barchetta ?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 20, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
Not Barchetta.
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Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2014, 11:17:42 AM
An Italian word?
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Post by: oko94 on June 20, 2014, 11:18:49 AM
Limousine ?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 21, 2014, 05:48:45 PM
Not an Italian word, and not limousine.
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Post by: Wendax on June 22, 2014, 03:04:17 AM
An English word?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 22, 2014, 06:33:44 AM
Familiale?
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Post by: targhediferro on June 22, 2014, 03:52:26 PM
The makers I was thinking about are not English, but the world that describes the body of quiz car has the same meaning also in English. Familiale is wrong but is a good idea...but the name is not French.
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Post by: Tom_I on June 22, 2014, 05:40:48 PM
Is it "Universal"?

DKW called the estate car/wagon body of the F89 "Universal" in the 1950s, and Volga used the same name a bit later in the early 1960s.
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Post by: targhediferro on June 23, 2014, 02:04:01 AM
Ja!!! Trabant and Mercedes-Benz too used Universal for their Station Wagon. So the quiz car has a Universal body, by.....? Locked for Tom_I.
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Post by: Tom_I on June 23, 2014, 04:58:05 PM
Well, this took a lot longer to find than it should, but neither of the web pages where this picture can be found contains the word "universal" in its text, so that was completely useless as a search term.

And there is no supporting information either, but there is a high-resolution picture on the US Library of Congress site which at least allows you to read the notice fixed on the car.

So according to that, this is a Ford with Universal body by R. Mc. Reynolds and Son, of 1423 to 1427 L St. N.W.

I wasn't sure what the address was meant to be at first, but there is a road called "L Street Northwest" in Washington DC, which has street numbers that go higher than 1427, so that might be it, but I'm not completely sure.

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Post by: targhediferro on June 23, 2014, 05:21:46 PM
Clap clap clap! :D Absolutely correct. A well deserved point for you.