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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2014 => Topic started by: Wendax on July 22, 2014, 02:12:47 AM

Title: Solved: Wendax 1315 - Georges Baudier 3 CV
Post by: Wendax on July 22, 2014, 02:12:47 AM
My red car for the day.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
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Post by: Wendax on July 29, 2014, 02:07:27 AM
up
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Post by: DavePieman on July 29, 2014, 07:26:02 PM
Dunkley?
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Post by: Wendax on July 30, 2014, 02:14:06 AM
No
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Post by: Wendax on August 06, 2014, 02:08:42 AM
up again
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Post by: nicanary on August 06, 2014, 05:49:18 AM
French ?
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Post by: Wendax on August 06, 2014, 06:17:58 AM
Oui, monsieur
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Post by: 4popoid on August 06, 2014, 10:40:39 AM
Manufactured in Paris, not including suburbs?
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Post by: Wendax on August 06, 2014, 12:32:51 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 06, 2014, 01:18:10 PM
Manufactured in the Paris suburbs?
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Post by: Wendax on August 06, 2014, 02:20:14 PM
Yes
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Post by: 4popoid on August 07, 2014, 01:34:13 AM
Ouzou, mfg. in Levallois-Perret and Poissy, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 07, 2014, 02:24:09 AM
No, and not from there
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Post by: 4popoid on August 07, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
Gallet et Itasse (Gazelle?), mfg. in Boulogne-Billancourt, from 1900-1901?
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Post by: Wendax on August 07, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
No, and not from there.

I just saw that some sources list the manufacturer in question as Paris-based, because they had the bureau in Paris, but the factory was in a suburb. A view from where the factory was:
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Post by: 4popoid on August 07, 2014, 02:23:29 PM
Boyer, mfg. in Suresnes, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 07, 2014, 03:18:02 PM
Not that one and not from there
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Post by: 4popoid on August 07, 2014, 05:50:34 PM
Cenia, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 08, 2014, 01:58:02 AM
Neuilly-sur-Seine is correct, Cenia is not.
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Post by: 4popoid on August 08, 2014, 11:07:45 AM
Ravel (Joseph Ravel and Edouard Ravel), mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from 1901/1902?
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Post by: Wendax on August 08, 2014, 12:47:29 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 08, 2014, 02:30:25 PM
Filtz, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1901/1902?
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Post by: Wendax on August 08, 2014, 02:51:10 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 08, 2014, 06:56:24 PM
Vinet, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1902?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 01:40:39 AM
Sorry, no
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 12:09:11 PM
Reyrol, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1901?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 01:20:58 PM
Benois & Damas, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1903?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 01:32:46 PM
Although I think the puzzle car is earlier, did the manufacturer exist after 1904?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Goujon, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1901?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 03:45:57 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 04:12:01 PM
Mignonette, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 04:20:54 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
Last name on the list: Koch, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, from about 1901?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 04:56:19 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Garcin (BGS?), mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, about 1904?
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Post by: Wendax on August 09, 2014, 05:22:41 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 09, 2014, 06:11:05 PM
Henriod, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, about 1904?
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Post by: Wendax on August 19, 2014, 10:35:56 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 19, 2014, 11:22:46 PM
MLB (Landry et Beyroux) from about 1901?
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Post by: Wendax on August 20, 2014, 05:01:16 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 21, 2014, 12:38:21 AM
Claudius from about 1903?
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Post by: Wendax on August 21, 2014, 11:57:31 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 21, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
Rigal, from about 1902?
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Post by: Wendax on August 21, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
No. The correct year is about 1900.
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Post by: 4popoid on August 21, 2014, 06:58:00 PM
Hurtu, mfg. in Neuilly-sur-Seine, about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2014, 04:10:32 AM
No
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Post by: grobmotorix on August 22, 2014, 05:33:28 PM
Phillipon & Cie.?
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Post by: Wendax on August 22, 2014, 05:55:12 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 22, 2014, 06:05:38 PM
 Foucher et Delachanal?
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Post by: Wendax on August 23, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 23, 2014, 10:24:35 PM
Doctor Esse (Doctoresse?) from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 24, 2014, 02:02:19 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 24, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
Empress from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 24, 2014, 09:08:37 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 24, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
Éole from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 24, 2014, 10:27:20 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 24, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Knowles Chain from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 24, 2014, 02:46:36 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 25, 2014, 12:28:18 AM
D&B (David & Bourgeois) from about 1900?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on August 25, 2014, 03:57:13 AM
Benois & Damas
Boyer
Cenia
Claudius
Doctor Esse (Doctoresse?)
Empress
Éole
Filtz
Foucher et Delachanal
Gallet et Itasse (Gazelle?)
Garcin (BGS?)
Goujon
Henriod
Hurtu
Knowles Chain
Koch
Mignonette
MLB (Landry et Beyroux)
Ouzou
Phillipon & Cie
Ravel
Reyrol
Rigal
Vinet

Still a long list...Audineau?
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Post by: 4popoid on August 25, 2014, 01:09:49 PM
Durey-Sohy, from about 1900?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on August 25, 2014, 03:06:54 PM
Sorry 4popoid, I put your D&B (David & Bourgeois) in the list of wrong guesses...I changed that list.
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Post by: Wendax on August 29, 2014, 03:39:19 PM
None of the guesses above
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Post by: 4popoid on August 29, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
Élan, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 29, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 29, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Montier, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2014, 01:19:45 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 30, 2014, 01:49:42 AM
This one is turning out to be much more difficult than I was expecting.  The last name on my current list of possibilities is, appropriately: Omega, from about 1900.
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Post by: Wendax on August 30, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 30, 2014, 09:12:37 PM
Brierre, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 31, 2014, 02:29:20 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 31, 2014, 06:26:00 AM
Gautier-Wehrle, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on August 31, 2014, 07:32:17 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on August 31, 2014, 08:26:00 PM
Le Blon, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2014, 04:35:25 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 01, 2014, 01:27:13 PM
Levenn, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 01, 2014, 05:26:02 PM
Crouan, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 01, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 02, 2014, 03:25:41 AM
Peillon, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2014, 03:46:51 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 02, 2014, 03:59:00 AM
Hanzer, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 02, 2014, 10:22:39 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 02, 2014, 10:24:04 PM
La Nationale, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2014, 02:18:28 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on September 03, 2014, 11:58:01 AM
Henri-Dubray, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
No.

How to help you without giving it away? Hmmmm...
There is still an existing car of this brand in a museum.
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Post by: 4popoid on September 03, 2014, 02:56:47 PM
Baudier, from about 1900?
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Post by: Wendax on September 03, 2014, 04:14:39 PM
The hint was quite helpful, I guess.  ;)
It is a Georges Baudier 3 CV from 1900:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1315 - Georges Baudier 3 CV
Post by: 4popoid on September 03, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
Thanks for the point Gerd!  I was beginning to despair on this one.

I had considered the Baudier early on, but dismissed it for the following reasons (among others).
   1.  My reference says manufactured in Paris, not Neuilly.  However, when you said that you had a reference giving Paris, not Neuilly, I reconsidered it after I ran out of Neuilly possibilities.
   2.  My only photograph of a 1900 Baudier shows completely different rear seating, and a slanted (not vertical) steering column.
   3.  I had convinced myself that I saw a chain, or belt, drive in the puzzle photograph, but my reference said the Baudier had a shaft drive.

However, I was getting desperate, so when you said there was one example in a museum, and I had no information regarding a museum for any of my few other possibilities, I went back to review the discards, and decided to try the first one that I found that mentioned a single museum car: Baudier.

So, yes, the museum clue was helpful, but it was still a guess, albeit an educated one.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1315 - Georges Baudier 3 CV
Post by: Wendax on October 29, 2023, 08:52:21 AM
The museum car, at the Musée National de l'Automobile in Mulhouse: