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Title: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Wendax on November 10, 2014, 03:03:41 AM
Winter is coming.

For one point, please respond and identify this car and its coachbuilder.
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 17, 2014, 02:32:52 AM
up
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Post by: Wendax on November 24, 2014, 03:36:14 PM
Easy pro point
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Post by: mekubb on November 24, 2014, 03:46:39 PM
Mercedes ?
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Post by: grobmotorix on November 24, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
It has got a certain BMW taste...
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 24, 2014, 03:56:12 PM
Neither Mercedes nor BMW
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Post by: oko94 on November 24, 2014, 04:20:10 PM
Bristol 400 ?
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Post by: Wendax on November 24, 2014, 04:25:08 PM
No
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Post by: Bill Murray on November 24, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
Just winging it today.....

Wanderer?

Bill
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 24, 2014, 04:47:33 PM
No
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Post by: targhediferro on November 24, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
Hansa?
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Post by: pguillem on November 24, 2014, 05:11:50 PM
Adler ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 24, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
Quote from: targhediferro on November 24, 2014, 05:03:50 PM
Hansa?
Yes!
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Bill Murray on November 24, 2014, 05:39:35 PM
Sorry, Fabrizio, I do not think I am stealing this one from you, I have 2 hours in research on the vehicle and had found the solution.

Hansa 2000 from 1938 with body by Gläser.

Bill
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Post by: ropat53 on November 24, 2014, 05:39:49 PM
 As this puzzle isn't locked I'll post my answer.

1938 Hansa 2000 Cabriolet by Gläser.
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: ropat53 on November 24, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
14 seconds too late ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Bill Murray on November 24, 2014, 05:52:33 PM
Sorry both Robbie and Fabrizio.... so it goes sometimes.

Same car with top/hood down.

Bill
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Post by: targhediferro on November 25, 2014, 01:13:15 AM
It's my fault....I recognised it as an Hansa 2000, but I had no time to dig about a coachbuilder, so I hoped in a lock. No matter Bill:)
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2014, 02:32:09 AM
Don't worry, it is a Gläser bodied Hansa, but not a 2000.  ;D
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Post by: mekubb on November 25, 2014, 03:00:35 AM
Still not locked ? Could it be a Hansa 3500 by Gläser ?
Title: Re: Wendax 1410
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2014, 03:04:18 AM
Yes, a Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser.

One point for you.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Bill Murray on November 25, 2014, 06:23:05 AM
Interesting....

I'm not going to argue the point as I don't have a lot of evidence, but a normally very accurate site had my photo as well as yours described as a Hansa 2000.  The site also had the rendering posted below of a proposed 3500 cabriolet and I found the same rendering elsewhere including a very good site on the coach builder.

Bill

Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2014, 06:31:56 AM
The Hansa 2000 and 2300 had different hood louvers: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=14888.msg134409#msg134409
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Bill Murray on November 25, 2014, 04:14:43 PM
Hmmmm!!

I am rather embarrassed here and I apologize.

I took as "the absolute truth"  the information I got on this car from a source I have used for years that has almost always been 100% correct.  I did not pay too much attention to the louvers in the motor hood on the artist rendering and I should have.

As Hansa and Borgward civilian vehicles are not part of my normal research outside of a general interest in coach built cars of the 1930's, I was not up to speed on the different models and I apologize for that.

In any case, the short lived Hansa 2000 certainly is different with respect to the hood louvers as is the 2300.

I have a new source now and it states that only 200 Hansa 3500 cars were made 1936-1939 and most seem to be 4 door limousine type sedans with full sun-roof.

The 2000 was apparently made in 1938 as a Hansa and in 1939 as a Borgward after the takeover.  2,000 examples.

The 2300 was the successor to the 2000 and was built in 1,000 examples from 1939-1942.

Below are some example photos.

Bill

Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Wendax on November 25, 2014, 04:34:47 PM
No need to apologize, Bill. I always take these comments as a good reason to have a second look, and you can believe me that I quite often find some errors or vagueness in my own information.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1410 - Hansa 3500 Cabriolet by Gläser
Post by: Bill Murray on November 25, 2014, 04:48:25 PM
Thanks for the kind words, Gerd.  I also edited my post as I mis-typed  the 3500 model designation.

Bill