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Title: Solved: Wendax 582 - Sirocco GT by V. Bellia
Post by: Wendax on May 18, 2012, 03:30:26 AM
That's what we like.

For one point, please respond and identify this car, its base and its builder.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Allemano on May 18, 2012, 03:39:14 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: Wendax on May 25, 2012, 02:23:04 AM
up
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Post by: RayTheRat on May 25, 2012, 04:27:13 PM
To start with, is it a Matra?
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Post by: D-type on May 25, 2012, 04:28:42 PM
Alternatively, is it South American?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on May 25, 2012, 04:37:18 PM
To start with, is it a Matra?

No
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Post by: Wendax on May 25, 2012, 04:38:07 PM
Alternatively, is it South American?
No, senor
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Post by: RayTheRat on May 26, 2012, 12:05:41 AM
French?
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Post by: Wendax on May 26, 2012, 01:40:54 AM
No
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Post by: Manuel on May 26, 2012, 02:17:50 AM

Was it one of the Alfa batmobiles?

Manuel in Oz
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Post by: Wendax on May 26, 2012, 02:50:48 AM
No, it's not one of those
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Post by: Tackitt on May 26, 2012, 03:58:24 AM
U.S.?
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Post by: Wendax on May 26, 2012, 03:32:59 PM
Not from the USA
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Post by: Tackitt on May 26, 2012, 11:59:35 PM
Inline 6?
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Post by: Wendax on May 27, 2012, 02:18:51 AM
I only know the maker of the base car, not the type. An inline six could have been possible though.
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Post by: Tackitt on May 27, 2012, 08:49:28 AM
Kit?
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Post by: Wendax on May 27, 2012, 09:00:48 AM
No
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Post by: RayTheRat on May 29, 2012, 12:20:25 AM
One-off?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on May 29, 2012, 02:24:10 AM
I think so, but not the only car of this manufacturer.
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Post by: thorax on May 30, 2012, 01:48:53 PM
Artes from Spain?
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Post by: Wendax on May 30, 2012, 01:59:17 PM
Not Artes and not from Spain
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 01:54:19 AM
Have a go at it, pros!
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 02:21:50 AM
Australian?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 02:35:49 AM
No
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 02:44:21 AM
Based on a German car?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 02:49:14 AM
No
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Post by: Allemano on June 06, 2012, 02:50:54 AM
Based on a Auto Union/DKW?

From Latin America?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 02:53:40 AM
Not from Latin America (and not based on a DKW / Auto Union)
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Post by: Allemano on June 06, 2012, 02:57:25 AM
European?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 02:58:47 AM
No, but European base car
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Post by: Allemano on June 06, 2012, 03:00:41 AM
African colonies?
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 03:02:36 AM
French base car?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 03:03:37 AM
African colonies?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 03:04:17 AM
French base car?
No
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 03:09:46 AM
Car built in South Africa?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
Yes
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Post by: pguillem on June 06, 2012, 09:29:46 AM
Swiss bodywork ?
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 12:26:02 PM
Anything to do with Glassport (GSM)?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Anything to do with Glassport (GSM)?
Not that I know of
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 01:28:17 PM
Built by Eric Brockhoven? (builder of the Lolette)
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 01:35:18 PM
No
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Post by: woodinsight on June 06, 2012, 01:43:10 PM
 have a few more suggestions - Protea?
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Post by: Wendax on June 06, 2012, 01:43:56 PM
No flowers involved  ;D
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Post by: woodinsight on June 07, 2012, 03:30:33 AM
Built by Hahn?
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Post by: Wendax on June 07, 2012, 04:01:23 AM
No
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 07, 2012, 05:00:14 AM
Maserati underneath?

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Post by: Wendax on June 07, 2012, 05:00:54 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Allemano on June 15, 2012, 05:18:30 AM
Fiat based?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 05:29:12 AM
No
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Post by: Allemano on June 15, 2012, 05:43:13 AM
Saab based, maybe on a Sonett?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 06:23:09 AM
No
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 07:23:46 AM
Based upon a Jensen?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
No, getting colder with the last two guesses
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 11:27:23 AM
Thinking of other lumpy, large GT's....

Salmson?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 12:21:09 PM
No
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 12:38:08 PM
Lancia?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 03:13:48 PM
Right country for the base car, but wrong marque
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 03:25:27 PM
A Ferrari?  Sacrilege!
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 03:39:03 PM
No sacrilege done!  :D

Maserati
Fiat
Lancia
Ferrari
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: RayTheRat on June 15, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
Fiat 2300?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 03:45:24 PM
Not a Fiat
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
Siata 208?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 03:49:08 PM
That would have been a sacrilege too, wouldn't it?  ;D

Maserati
Fiat
Lancia
Ferrari
Siata
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 03:49:29 PM
Yes, I guess it would :D
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 15, 2012, 03:51:07 PM
OSCA?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
Maserati
Fiat
Lancia
Ferrari
Siata
OSCA
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Post by: pguillem on June 15, 2012, 04:08:23 PM
Autobianchi ?
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Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 04:17:41 PM
Maserati
Fiat
Lancia
Ferrari
Siata
OSCA
Autobianchi
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: woodinsight on June 15, 2012, 04:22:40 PM
Cisitalia?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 15, 2012, 04:25:10 PM
Maserati
Fiat
Lancia
Ferrari
Siata
OSCA
Autobianchi
Cisitalia
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: woodinsight on June 15, 2012, 04:26:28 PM
Alfa Romeo?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2012, 01:56:57 AM
Yes, that was the easy part  :D
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Post by: woodinsight on June 16, 2012, 04:26:51 AM
Yes, that was the easy part  :D
:D
Was it based on an Alfa 2600?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2012, 05:28:35 AM
I don't know.
Judging by the looks it could be possible.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 16, 2012, 05:45:48 AM
No sacrilege done!  :D

Fibber!  :D
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 16, 2012, 06:59:58 AM
No sacrilege done!  :D

Fibber!  :D
;D
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on June 20, 2012, 06:39:22 AM
Thanks for front page coverage!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Arunas on June 21, 2012, 01:51:53 PM
Other cars by this maker were also one-offs?
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Post by: Wendax on June 21, 2012, 04:03:51 PM
As little as I know, yes.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on September 22, 2012, 01:41:48 AM
Another beauty disappearing into eternal darkness
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 22, 2012, 02:35:44 AM
Built in the 1960s?
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Post by: Wendax on September 22, 2012, 03:36:01 AM
I don't have a year, but telling by the looks I am tempted to agree.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 06, 2012, 05:13:00 PM
Alfa-Romeo based, built in South Africa...not the only car by the builder...Is the answer in a book?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on December 07, 2012, 02:12:02 AM
I found the picture at an online auction and an article online which I can't find right now. That's all I know about this car.
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Post by: SACO on December 20, 2012, 03:27:05 AM
A bad photo !
Alfa 1900 by Giovanni Cecchini  (Karoo _ South Africa  ) ?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2012, 04:02:18 AM
A very nice find. Now we know the Alfa Romeo model it was based on: the 1900.

My Italian isn't good at all, but I understand that Giovanni Cecchini was not the builder. I have another name anyway. Perhaps a native speaker can summarize the text.  ;D

The text contains the location where these specials were built, the Campo Felice station at Three Sisters.

The most important thing is missing though, the name of this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 20, 2012, 04:38:41 PM
It's barely readable but Cecchini was the person who arrived in that Shell distributor, called "Campo Felice" owned by an Italian family and where he saw the car, shown by the family.
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Post by: Wendax on December 20, 2012, 04:50:28 PM
Thanks, I thought so.
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Post by: Ray B. on December 21, 2012, 05:02:06 AM
Googling that name, "Giovanni Cecchini", I find this race driver. Any connection?
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Post by: Wendax on December 21, 2012, 06:55:10 AM
I don't know as I never noticed his name until SACO's post. Perhaps SACO can tell us more about his source.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 22, 2012, 04:59:38 PM
I hope is Quattroruote Magazine...
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on December 01, 2013, 06:18:42 AM
A big hint in order to get this one solved: its name is very similar to a name used by a mass-produced sports car and a low-volume sports car as well.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Djetset on November 03, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
This one has been dormant for too long! Could its name be Alpine?
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Post by: Wendax on November 04, 2014, 02:14:57 AM
No
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Post by: Djetset on November 04, 2014, 03:57:27 AM
How about Tiger? (just keen to see this one solved, as it's an Alfa, and this has been intriguing me now for too long!)  :D
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Post by: Wendax on November 04, 2014, 04:17:32 AM
Keep on trying, not Tiger.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Allemano on November 04, 2014, 11:35:04 AM
"Manta"?
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Post by: Wendax on November 04, 2014, 11:58:51 AM
No, but heading in the right direction.
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Post by: Djetset on November 05, 2014, 09:33:33 AM
Murena?
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Post by: Wendax on November 05, 2014, 09:34:38 AM
No
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Post by: Wendax on November 05, 2014, 09:41:15 AM
Let me expand my hint:
- there were a mass-produced sports car and a low-volume sports car with a similar name
- there was a kit car with exactly the same name
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Post by: Djetset on November 05, 2014, 09:42:57 AM
Thank you for the hint Wendax.  As a further hint, is the name animal related? ;)
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Post by: Wendax on November 05, 2014, 09:46:55 AM
No
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Post by: Djetset on November 05, 2014, 10:07:38 AM
OK, thanks Wendax.  This could take a while, but to start with, how about Sebring?
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Post by: Wendax on November 05, 2014, 11:33:03 AM
No
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Post by: Djetset on November 05, 2014, 07:36:14 PM
Daytona?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 02:19:47 AM
No
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 02:34:03 AM
Elite?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 02:45:36 AM
No
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 03:38:34 AM
Nova?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 03:46:35 AM
No
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2014, 09:53:04 AM
We've eliminated the animal kingdom as a source of names. How about place names?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 09:57:33 AM
Not a place name either
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2014, 10:08:17 AM
Celestial objects?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 11:31:11 AM
No stars etcetera, but the considering that direction could prove worthwhile, just a bit.
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Post by: 4popoid on November 06, 2014, 12:02:42 PM
Rocket?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 02:33:09 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on November 06, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
Astra?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2014, 03:32:50 PM
Let's try weather and climate: Mistral?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 03:42:45 PM
Astra?
No

Let's try weather and climate: Mistral?
That's a much better idea, not Mistral though, but with the previous guesses you will find the solution quickly.
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 04:00:34 PM
Saturn?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
Tempest?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 04:07:58 PM
Saturn?
No, getting colder

Tempest?
No, your previous guess was even better.
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 04:13:53 PM
Bora?
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Post by: 4popoid on November 06, 2014, 04:14:47 PM
Tornado?
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 04:15:29 PM
Twice no
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 04:21:04 PM
Mirage
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Post by: Wendax on November 06, 2014, 04:28:34 PM
No
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 06, 2014, 04:35:54 PM
Storm?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 06, 2014, 04:38:24 PM
Scirocco?
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Post by: Djetset on November 06, 2014, 05:14:20 PM
Typhoon
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Post by: 4popoid on November 06, 2014, 05:24:09 PM
Cyclone?
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Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2014, 02:16:02 AM
Not Storm, Typhoon or Cyclone, but Scirocco is very, very close. Have a look at my reply #100 and you will get the solution.
Locked for Paul Jaray.
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 07, 2014, 12:04:55 PM
It has to be Sirocco, then...
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Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2014, 12:18:59 PM
It has to be Sirocco, then...
Yes, just two letters missing, as it is a Sirocco xx (Fill the xx).
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 07, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
Something easy like GT?
Title: Re: Wendax 582
Post by: Wendax on November 07, 2014, 01:11:42 PM
Yes. After more than two years I'm glad to call this puzzle solved, although I originally asked for the builder. But that information isn't available online anymore. His name was V. Bellia.

One point for Paul Jaray for finding the car's name. The other Black Hole point goes to SACO for providing the information that it was based on an Alfa Rome 1900.

Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 582 - Sirocco GT by V. Bellia
Post by: Djetset on November 07, 2014, 01:35:20 PM
Phew, at last!  Well done to all for a great puzzle.  :applause:
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 582 - Sirocco GT by V. Bellia
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 07, 2014, 02:53:19 PM
Nice find!
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 582 - Sirocco GT by V. Bellia
Post by: Otto Puzzell on November 07, 2014, 04:00:27 PM
PJ - forever the king of AP! :)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 582 - Sirocco GT by V. Bellia
Post by: targhediferro on November 08, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
Your car culture is absolutely amazing!  :applause: :hail: