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Title: Solved: Wendax 867 - HTH 200 Coupé
Post by: Wendax on April 11, 2013, 02:24:09 AM
Hopefully it will be back on its wheels some day.

For one point, please respond and identify this car, its builder and its engine.
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Post by: Wendax on April 18, 2013, 02:28:16 AM
up
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Post by: frederick59 on April 19, 2013, 07:54:11 AM
Panhard Dyna Junior?
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Post by: Wendax on April 19, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
No Panhard connection
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Post by: frederick59 on April 20, 2013, 07:02:26 AM
from Germany?
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Post by: Wendax on April 20, 2013, 06:22:20 PM
Yes
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Post by: frederick59 on April 20, 2013, 06:29:00 PM
Lloyd?
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Post by: Wendax on April 20, 2013, 06:44:10 PM
No
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Post by: targhediferro on April 21, 2013, 04:00:18 AM
Zwickau?
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Post by: Wendax on April 21, 2013, 05:04:18 AM
No
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Post by: targhediferro on April 21, 2013, 05:23:54 AM
Gutbrod?
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Post by: Wendax on April 21, 2013, 05:48:40 AM
No, much more obscure than the above mentioned
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Post by: Wendax on April 28, 2013, 02:22:55 AM
Pros, here comes a hard one
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 28, 2013, 02:30:46 AM
Eigenbau?
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Post by: Wendax on April 28, 2013, 02:44:28 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 28, 2013, 03:06:20 AM
anything to do with Maico?
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Post by: Wendax on April 28, 2013, 01:10:51 PM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 28, 2013, 01:25:55 PM
anything to do with any of the German microcars Thyssen-Bornemissza/Hans Rosellen covered?
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Post by: Wendax on April 28, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
No, Herr Rosellen aka Thyssen-Bornrmissza didn't mention this manufacturer online or in his books.
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 28, 2013, 02:39:34 PM
was this an East German small-scale manufacturer?
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Post by: Wendax on April 28, 2013, 03:47:39 PM
Yes
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2013, 12:14:44 AM
Was the picture sourced from ebay?
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Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2013, 02:14:23 AM
Yes
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2013, 03:10:00 AM
Trabant-based?
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Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2013, 03:23:45 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2013, 03:27:00 AM
VW engine?
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Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2013, 04:37:51 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on April 29, 2013, 04:42:20 AM
hmm, IFA/DKW engine?
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Post by: Wendax on April 29, 2013, 04:58:08 AM
DKW engine
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Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 06:40:59 AM
From any of the eastern "Waggonbau" factories?
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Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 06:44:13 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 01, 2013, 06:54:26 AM
from a werkstatt?
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Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
No, from a company whose main business was not building cars. The owner was mentioned on AutoPuzzles before, in connection with another car he built.
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 01, 2013, 07:49:23 AM
did he build an Eigenbau?
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Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 07:59:21 AM
As far as I know, all cars were meant for sale.
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 01, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
Arno Lindner?
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Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 09:48:12 AM
No
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Post by: Allemano on May 01, 2013, 09:59:06 AM
Schubert/Hainichen?
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Post by: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 10:06:52 AM
No
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Post by: grobmotorix on May 01, 2013, 05:30:43 PM
Dieter Wendt maybe...
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Post by: Wendax on May 02, 2013, 02:03:08 AM
Not him
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 02, 2013, 02:44:51 AM
Was Arbeitsgroup Chemnitz involved?
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Post by: Wendax on May 02, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 02, 2013, 03:38:22 AM
was the other car a sportscar?
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Post by: Wendax on May 02, 2013, 03:43:41 AM
The other car was available as an ordinary car, but also had some racing successes.
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 02, 2013, 05:56:33 AM
Is this a Melkus?
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Post by: Wendax on May 02, 2013, 06:21:28 AM
No
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Post by: Wendax on August 01, 2013, 02:15:58 AM
To the Black Hole, little beauty!
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Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2014, 08:51:55 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 01, 2013, 07:08:51 AM
No, from a company whose main business was not building cars. The owner was mentioned on AutoPuzzles before, in connection with another car he built.
Meanwhile several cars.  ;)
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Post by: Wendax on February 03, 2014, 07:48:54 AM
A rear view might bring this one back into the light?
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Post by: Allemano on February 10, 2014, 10:17:07 AM
Schüler who also built this?: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4945.0 (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4945.0)
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Post by: Wendax on February 10, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
Not him
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 03:09:05 AM
Schwarze?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 03:21:08 AM
No
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 03:28:59 AM
any connection to Autowolf?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 03:34:57 AM
None that I know of
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 04:07:56 AM
was the other car which was mentioned AP a passenger car?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 04:58:51 AM
As I said before, meanwhile there is more than one car at AutoPuzzles that was built by this man's companies. All were passenger cars.
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 05:54:33 AM
were these built after the 2nd WW?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 05:58:14 AM
Before, during and after
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 06:28:08 AM
I am sure the solution is very simple and I am dumb. Is there a connection to Auto Union?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 06:37:28 AM
I can assure you that the solution is not simple. While the prewar company is contained in the usual encyclopedias, the car production by his second company is not covered in any book as far as I know. The only website covering all cars is - surprise, surprise - autopuzzles.com. There is no direct connection with Auto Union, except for using Auto Union parts.
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 06:45:52 AM
Hans Tautenhahn?
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Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 06:51:48 AM
Aaaah!

Yes, Hans Tautenhahn was the builder. Locked for you to answer the other questions.
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Post by: pnegyesi on March 16, 2014, 06:55:41 AM
I found the ad. It is a HTH prototype which was said to be housed in a museum for many years. it was powered by a 200 cc DKW engine. The front was originally modeled after the Porsche 356. It had a Framo front axle.
Title: Re: Wendax 867
Post by: Wendax on March 16, 2014, 12:14:10 PM
Yes, HTH 200 is the correct answer. Two well earned points for you.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 867 - HTH 200 Coupé
Post by: pnegyesi on March 19, 2014, 07:30:31 AM
From Fahrzeugmuseum Chemnitz, clearing up the mystery of two guys with the same name!!!
"There were two Hans Tautenhahn. One lived in Zwickau and was responsible for HATAZ (HAns TAutenhahn Zwickau) cars in the 1920s. The other man lived and worked in Hartenstein and built sidecars and the small car you mentioned in the 1950s (HTH: Hans Tautenhahn Hartenstein). Our museum used to show a HATAZ car and the remains of a HTH 200. Both exhibits have since been given back to their owners and are no longer on display. Both men were not related, just shared the same name and worked in similar trades at different points in time.  There is also very little information on either of them, I'm afraid"
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 867 - HTH 200 Coupé
Post by: autospeurder on March 19, 2014, 07:45:40 AM
I don't know if they were not related because:
1 Hartenstein is near Zwickau
2 The second company was called Fahrzeugbau HTH,Hans Tautenhahn Jun. This implicates that there was a Hans Tautenhahn senior, which could be our Hataz-man.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 867 - HTH 200 Coupé
Post by: Wendax on March 19, 2014, 08:14:48 AM
Thank you very much for that piece of information which is new to me.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 867 - HTH 200 Coupé
Post by: Wendax on August 24, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
This car was not build by Tautenhahn, but by one of his apprentices as part of his craftsman exam. The base car was a Framo Stromer which was converted to a four-wheel car, the DKW engine got a MZ ES 300 cylinder and the rear wings were modified Wartburg 311 front wings.