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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2014 => Topic started by: mekubb on December 17, 2013, 06:13:53 PM

Title: Ubb137 Chrysler Imperial Speedster 1927
Post by: mekubb on December 17, 2013, 06:13:53 PM
What car do we have here and when was it raced for the first time ?
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Post by: D-type on December 18, 2013, 04:43:41 AM
One of those Argentinian Bugatti replicas?
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Post by: mekubb on December 18, 2013, 07:52:40 AM
Not a replica and not a Bugatti !
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Post by: spider on December 19, 2013, 03:18:21 PM
aston martin ??
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Post by: mekubb on December 20, 2013, 03:04:07 AM
Not an Aston
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Post by: exekiel on December 20, 2013, 06:59:49 AM
British?
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Post by: mekubb on December 20, 2013, 07:22:33 AM
Not British
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Post by: AlexFrance on January 06, 2014, 05:14:10 PM
French?
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Post by: mekubb on January 07, 2014, 03:39:02 AM
Not French
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Post by: D-type on January 07, 2014, 05:34:11 AM
Italian?
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Post by: mekubb on January 07, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
Quote from: D-type on January 07, 2014, 05:34:11 AM
Italian?
Nope...
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Post by: Majeko on January 29, 2014, 06:10:17 PM
German?
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Post by: mekubb on January 30, 2014, 08:10:44 AM
Not German
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Post by: AlexFrance on January 30, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
Is it as old as it looks?
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Post by: mekubb on January 30, 2014, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: AlexFrance on January 30, 2014, 04:29:36 PM
Is it as old as it looks?
According to my source it is indeed
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Post by: D-type on January 30, 2014, 06:14:28 PM
Not British, Italian, German or French.  Who's left?  From the Netherlands?
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Post by: mekubb on January 31, 2014, 04:15:35 AM
Not Dutch either.. I wish it was....
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Post by: AlexFrance on January 31, 2014, 06:00:10 AM
Belgium?
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Post by: mekubb on January 31, 2014, 06:33:25 AM
Not from Benelux
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Post by: AlexFrance on January 31, 2014, 02:32:21 PM
Spain??  :)
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Post by: mekubb on January 31, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
Not EspaƱa...
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Post by: D-type on January 31, 2014, 04:13:43 PM
Portugal?
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Post by: Majeko on January 31, 2014, 04:16:43 PM
Australia?
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Post by: mekubb on January 31, 2014, 04:50:05 PM
Not Portuguese and not from down under :D
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Post by: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 04:36:31 AM
Pro time
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 04:50:16 AM
Czech ?
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Post by: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 05:41:27 AM
Not Czech either
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 06:00:55 AM
Austrian ?
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Post by: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 08:18:31 AM
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Austrian ?
Nope
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 08:22:02 AM
USA ?
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Post by: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 08:55:36 AM
Yes sir, from USA !
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 10:44:12 AM
Is it American-engined?
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Post by: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 01:07:57 PM
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Is it American-engined?
Yep
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Post by: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 07:09:04 PM
Quote from: mekubb on February 22, 2014, 01:07:57 PM
Quote from: nicanary on February 22, 2014, 10:44:12 AM
Is it American-engined?
Yep

Is the engine one of those 1500cc Offenhausers?
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Post by: mekubb on February 23, 2014, 05:47:37 AM
I don't know which engine it has but I believe it is a lot bigger than 1500 cc
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Post by: nicanary on February 23, 2014, 06:06:22 AM
Is the car a homebuilt one-off or based on a well-known make?
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Post by: mekubb on February 23, 2014, 07:56:03 AM
Well-known make
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Post by: woodinsight on February 23, 2014, 12:24:28 PM
Does it date from the 1930s?
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Post by: nicanary on February 23, 2014, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: mekubb on February 23, 2014, 07:56:03 AM
Well-known make

Ford based ?
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Post by: mekubb on February 23, 2014, 03:58:32 PM
A bit earlier than 1930 according to my source and not Ford based
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Post by: nicanary on February 23, 2014, 04:28:34 PM
I'm having problems with this one! It seems very small to be an American car of that era, especially since you say the engine is bigger than I imagined. Is this an oval racer rebodied for the road?
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Post by: mekubb on February 24, 2014, 07:49:57 AM
I don't know if this is a rebodied oval racer, my source doesn't reveal that info. But personally I don't think so. Here is another pic of the car.
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Post by: nicanary on February 24, 2014, 08:13:09 AM
Packard Speedster ? :huh:
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Post by: mekubb on February 24, 2014, 10:04:01 AM
Not a Packard but 'Speedster' is indeed part of the name  ;)
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Post by: nicanary on February 24, 2014, 11:10:27 AM
It just seems so small. Is it a Stutz Blackhawk Speedster ?
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Post by: woodinsight on February 24, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
It is a mystery - I've never seen such a small American sports of this size.......... :-\

Is there a Chrysler connection?
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Post by: nicanary on February 24, 2014, 11:36:38 AM
Quote from: woodinsight on February 24, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
It is a mystery - I've never seen such a small American sports of this size.......... :-\

Is there a Chrysler connection?

Thanks to Woodinsight, I've found it. But I'm a changed man these days, so I'll leave him to finish the puzzle, and hope nobody tries to "steal" it. Welcome back MJW.
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Post by: mekubb on February 24, 2014, 11:48:10 AM
Woodinsight indeed found the right connection with Chrysler, so I doubt what to do now as Nicanary apparently found the right car. OK, I'll lock it for Woodinsight now but I need the right description and year in the next guess. Otherwise it is open for Nicanary as well. It's a tough world out there gentlemen ....  ;D
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Post by: woodinsight on February 24, 2014, 03:04:07 PM
Thanks Mekubb,

- but this was just another guess from me.

Please allow nicanary to complete it as I would still have to undertake more research to come up with the definitive answer.

I'm intrigued to learn more and what size of engine it was fitted with.
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Post by: mekubb on February 24, 2014, 04:51:40 PM
Nicanary, it's all yours !
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Post by: nicanary on February 24, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
It's named on several sites as a 1927 Chrysler Imperial Speedster. It's Austrian-owned, and that's about all I can tell you. It has been pictured on a Austrian retrospective event, but the captions say nothing about the history or specification of the car. My guess is that it's a 1927 Chrysler Imperial engine fitted into a specially-built lightweight chassis, possibly of more recent date.

(From the start, I couldn't understand how the car was so small - American sports cars of that era were still quite big, like the Stutz and Chrysler cars that raced at Le Mans. I can't believe that this puzzle car was built by the factory.)

PS Thank you Woodinsight for your gracious deference. And Mekubb for allowing me to proceed. I only wish I could have told you more.
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Post by: Wendax on February 25, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
It does have a ROTOR logo prominently on its grille. Does anybody know the background? Could it be the chassis builder?
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Post by: mekubb on February 25, 2014, 03:00:55 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 24, 2014, 06:55:59 PM
It's named on several sites as a 1927 Chrysler Imperial Speedster. It's Austrian-owned, and that's about all I can tell you. It has been pictured on a Austrian retrospective event, but the captions say nothing about the history or specification of the car. My guess is that it's a 1927 Chrysler Imperial engine fitted into a specially-built lightweight chassis, possibly of more recent date.

(From the start, I couldn't understand how the car was so small - American sports cars of that era were still quite big, like the Stutz and Chrysler cars that raced at Le Mans. I can't believe that this puzzle car was built by the factory.)

PS Thank you Woodinsight for your gracious deference. And Mekubb for allowing me to proceed. I only wish I could have told you more.
Yes that's the car, a point for you. I am wondering also if this is a factory car or that the body was fitted later, couldn't find any info as well. May be the Rotor badge might enlighten this as Wendax suggested.