Here's the second iteration of my personal Bits 'n Pieces.
Very straightforward once more, guess what the piece presented belongs to and points are up for grabs.
As #6 is carried over from the first puzzle without being solved I think I shall put up a bounty of 3 points for the correct answer to this puzzle.
1. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/01.jpg)
2. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/02.jpg)
3. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/03.jpg)
4. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/04.jpg)
5. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/05.jpg)
6. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/06.jpg)
7. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/07.jpg)
8. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/08.jpg)
9. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/09.jpg)
10. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/10.jpg)
11. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/11.jpg)
12. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/12.jpg)
13. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/13.jpg)
14. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/14.jpg)
15. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/15.jpg)
16. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/16.jpg)
17. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/17.jpg)
18. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/18.jpg)
19. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/19.jpg)
20. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/20.jpg)
21. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/21.jpg)
22. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/22.jpg)
23. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/23.jpg)
24. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/24.jpg)
25. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/25.jpg)
26. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/26.jpg)
27. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/27.jpg)
28. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/28.jpg)
29. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/29.jpg)
30. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/30.jpg)
31. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/31.jpg)
I meant to have 30 but my counting seemed to have been off...
Good luck!
#2 Mellberg Mayo based on Saab
#8 OTAS KL112 ;)
#13 Jensen Nova by Vignale
#25 Zagato Zele
#15 Rumpler Tropfenwagen
#22 Volkswagen Beetle convertible by Hebmüller.
Ooh, forgot the solved post:
1. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/01A-level-GAZ-51-based-Escalade.jpg)
@re
A-Level GAZ 51 based Escalade
2. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/02Mellberg-Customs-Majo.jpg)
Allemano
Mellberg Customs Mayo
3. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/03Oldsmobile-O4.jpg)
@re
Oldsmobile O4
4. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/04GDT-Speedster.jpg)
Paul Jaray
GDT Speedster
5. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/05PTV-Ballena.jpg)
Arunas
PTV Ballena
6. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/062008-Iveco-Campagnola-Image-07.jpg)
75america (3 points)
Iveco Campagnola
7. (http://i.imgur.com/AejOUd9.jpg)
oko94
Sbarro Foliatec Millenium
8. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/08Sessano-Otas-KL112.jpg)
Allemano
Sessano Otas KL 112
9. (http://i.imgur.com/eZ0lSwB.jpg)
Paul Jaray
MMI Avocet
10. (http://i.imgur.com/aHr81NY.jpg)
Wendax
La Licorne 420 Duval Coupe
11. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/11BMW-Z1-Break.jpg)
Allemano
BMW Z1 Break
12. (http://i.imgur.com/JBTvDca.jpg)
oko94
Heuliez Intruder
13. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/13Jensen-Nova-Vignale.jpg)
Allemano
Jensen Nova Vignale
14.(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/14Toyota-MR2-TTE2.jpg)
@re
Toyota MR2 TTE
15. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/15rumpler-tropfenwagen.jpg)
DynaMike
Rumpler Tropfenwagen
16.(http://i.imgur.com/RV4VNH5.jpg)
João
Chevrolet Celta Spider Concept
17. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/17Lamberti-LS1-Concept.jpg)
Paul Jaray
Lamberti LS1 Concept
18. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/18Russo-Baltique-Porsche-SUV.jpg)
@re
Russo Baltique Porsche SUV Proposal
19. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/19Huet-Brothers-HB-Special.jpg)
Paul Jaray
Huet Brothers HB Special
20. (http://i.imgur.com/BIh00pj.jpg)
Paul Jaray
Gurgel Jag
21. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/21EDAG-Luv-Concept.jpg)
Ehhxekt
EDAG Luv Concept
22. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/221948-VW-Hebmuller-Cabriolet.jpg)
DynaMike
VW Beetle Cabriolet by Hebmüller
23. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/23Mercedes-Benz-Auto-2000.jpg)
Allemano
Mercedes Benz Auto 2000 Concept
24. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/24Webasto-Welcome-Concept.jpg)
Allemano
Webasto Welcome Concept
25. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/25Zagato-Zele-1000.jpg)
Allemano
Zagato Zele
26. (http://i.imgur.com/uITvJ0t.jpg)
oko94
BMW C1 Concept Cycle
27. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/27Ferrari-Studio-OR25.jpg)
Allemano
Ferrari Studio OR25
28. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/hoffmannoz/Daan/Cars/Autopuzzles/Details%202/28Triking-3-wheeler.jpg)
neilshouse
Triking 3-Wheeler
29. (http://i.imgur.com/dzCsdbr.jpg)
oko94
Lada Rapan Concept
30. (http://i.imgur.com/Qo6Fvg0.jpg)
Wendax
Dragon Motors Astero
31. (http://i.imgur.com/Xx7Bhqn.jpg)
João
Lancia Aprillia Sport by Viotti/Motto
#28, I think, is a Triking.
4 - GDT Speedster
17 - Lamberti LS1
#27 Ferrari CR25
#1 - GAZ-51?
#11 1991 BMW Z1 Break
hmmm... is number #6 a Landrover Defender...? ;D
Quote from: Allemano on December 02, 2008, 08:43:09 AM
#2 Mellberg Mayo based on Saab Yes!
#8 OTAS KL112 ;) Yes, although I have it as Sessano OTAS KL112
#13 Jensen Nova by Vignale Yep!
#25 Zagato Zele {b]Indeed[/b]
Quote from: DynaMike on December 02, 2008, 08:44:00 AM
#15 Rumpler Tropfenwagen Yes...
#22 Volkswagen Beetle convertible by Hebmüller.Yes....
I'm dumbfounded, these 2 were meant to be 2 of my crowning pieces, and they're gone in the second post!
Quote from: neilshouse on December 02, 2008, 08:47:04 AM
#28, I think, is a Triking. Correct, a Trinking 950cc Three-Wheeler
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 02, 2008, 09:01:45 AM
4 - GDT Speedster Yes!
17 - Lamberti LS1 Yup, no surprises that you're guessing correctly. ;D
Quote from: Allemano on December 02, 2008, 09:37:09 AM
#27 Ferrari CR25 Ferrari Studio CR25, yes
Quote from: ImpishGrin on December 02, 2008, 09:39:18 AM
#1 - GAZ-51? You're not right. You're also not entirely wrong.
Quote from: Allemano on December 02, 2008, 09:49:40 AM
#11 1991 BMW Z1 Break Yup
hmmm... is number #6 a Landrover Defender...? ;D
It would be highly entertaining if it were so, but no, it's not a Land Rover.
#3 - 2001 Oldsmobile O4
#14 - 2001 Toyota MR2 TTE
Quote from: DHoffmann on December 02, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
#1 - GAZ-51? You're not right. You're also not entirely wrong.
One of the licence versions? Or just a different model designation?
#5 - Tachó Ballena (4-wheeled)
#1 is a GAZ-51 hot rod, supposedly built by the creators of the Volga V12 Coupé, which would then be A.Level. But then again, this website that I visited says the creators originally called themselves "Pemespiba" and then changed the name to "Grand Garage".
Here is a very interesting automatic translation, courtesy of Google:
"Like Volga V12 Coupe and the Volga Roadster? The good news - now the creators are working on a new project - hot come in the style of Soviet gruzovichka GAZ-51. When work began, the staff called Pemespiba, now renamed the "Grand Garage." The machine is based on Cadillac Escalade. His frame shortened, and put her cabin from GAZ-51. Inside the old shell vvarena powerful structure of sheet steel. Bonnet joined with wings. Light as a flock of carboxylic detail otkidyvaetsya forward, offering easy access to the unit. Baggage "box" will also be made of ugleplastika and the lid will have an original electric machinery created specifically for this machine. All luxury "navoroty" Cadillac will be saved.
Work on the project promised to complete by the summer."
In my opinion, the most interesting detail is the sentence I've put in bold...
#23 1981 Mercedes-Benz Auto 2000 research car
Quote from: DHoffmann on December 02, 2008, 10:24:57 AM
#8 OTAS KL112 ;) Yes, although I have it as Sessano OTAS KL112
Aldo Sessano was the designer, but the company's name was OTAS — sadly another unsuccessful project .
Quote from: @re on December 02, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
#1 is a GAZ-51 hot rod, supposedly built by the creators of the Volga V12 Coupé, which would then be A.Level. But then again, this website that I visited says the creators originally called themselves "Pemespiba" and then changed the name to "Grand Garage".
Here is a very interesting automatic translation, courtesy of Google:
"Like Volga V12 Coupe and the Volga Roadster? The good news - now the creators are working on a new project - hot come in the style of Soviet gruzovichka GAZ-51. When work began, the staff called Pemespiba, now renamed the "Grand Garage." The machine is based on Cadillac Escalade. His frame shortened, and put her cabin from GAZ-51. Inside the old shell vvarena powerful structure of sheet steel. Bonnet joined with wings. Light as a flock of carboxylic detail otkidyvaetsya forward, offering easy access to the unit. Baggage "box" will also be made of ugleplastika and the lid will have an original electric machinery created specifically for this machine. All luxury "navoroty" Cadillac will be saved.
Work on the project promised to complete by the summer."
In my opinion, the most interesting detail is the sentence I've put in bold...
wow, we're with daan really surprised someone guessed it. in fact i received the pictures of that car via email from it's creator just today. the car's nearly finished right now. those are the same people who built volga V12 and in close connection to creator of russo-baltique impression
Do you know if they really went through with their crazy plan to make the baggage "box" out of ugleplastika?
;D
#6 - Santana SP-10
#12 - Daewoo Bucrane
#29 - Peugeot Crysalis
#21 - 2007 EDAG LUV concept
#19 - Huet Brothers HB Special
It appears that #18 is the Russo-Baltique offroad project (which I don't think ever became anything else than a scale model).
Don't know if it's got a proper name, though - here are a couple of images:
#3 Oldsmobile O4 Concept 2001
Quote from: @re on December 02, 2008, 10:33:53 AM
#3 - 2001 Oldsmobile O4
#14 - 2001 Toyota MR2 TTE
;)
Quote from: @re on December 29, 2008, 05:07:52 PM
It appears that #18 is the Russo-Baltique offroad project (which I don't think ever became anything else than a scale model).
Thank goodness!
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on December 30, 2008, 03:53:03 PM
Quote from: @re on December 29, 2008, 05:07:52 PM
It appears that #18 is the Russo-Baltique offroad project (which I don't think ever became anything else than a scale model).
Thank goodness!
In fact I quite like it! Aggressive but still proportionate. Looks much better than, say for example, any X-series BMW... or even the Impression concept...!
BTW, where's Dustin? Hasn't answered any of his topics for quite a while...
Is #10 a Hispano Suiza K6?
Quote from: neilshouse on January 05, 2009, 05:39:59 PM
Is #10 a Hispano Suiza K6?
Nah! I'd say it's an Hispano-Suiza H6B instead.
let's solve this!
I think only 7, 9, 10, 16, 20, 24, 26, 30 & 31 are missing, but there are some guesses without answers.
Quote from: @re on December 02, 2008, 10:33:53 AM
#3 - 2001 Oldsmobile O4 Yes!
#14 - 2001 Toyota MR2 TTE Yes!
Quote from: Arunas on December 02, 2008, 11:00:47 AM
#5 - Tachó Ballena (4-wheeled) I believe the correct name is PTV Ballena, but Yes!
Quote from: @re on December 02, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
#1 is a GAZ-51 hot rod, supposedly built by the creators of the Volga V12 Coupé, which would then be A.Level. But then again, this website that I visited says the creators originally called themselves "Pemespiba" and then changed the name to "Grand Garage". Amazingly, yes! The name I have is A Level GAZ 51 based Escalade
Quote from: Allemano on December 02, 2008, 11:42:26 AM
#23 1981 Mercedes-Benz Auto 2000 research car Yes!
Quote from: Joao Gois on December 04, 2008, 05:03:46 AM
#6 - Santana SP-10 No!
#12 - Daewoo Bucrane No!
#29 - Peugeot Crysalis No!
Quote from: Ehhxekt on December 09, 2008, 05:40:17 AM
#21 - 2007 EDAG LUV concept Yes!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2008, 06:54:14 AM
#19 - Huet Brothers HB Special Yes!
Quote from: @re on December 29, 2008, 05:07:52 PM
It appears that #18 is the Russo-Baltique offroad project (which I don't think ever became anything else than a scale model). Yes! - best name I have is 'Russo-Baltique Porsche SUV'
Quote from: Joao Gois on January 06, 2009, 06:03:00 AM
Quote from: neilshouse on January 05, 2009, 05:39:59 PM
Is #10 a Hispano Suiza K6? No!
Nah! I'd say it's an Hispano-Suiza H6B instead. Nope!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 01, 2009, 01:45:23 PM
let's solve this!
I think only 7, 9, 10, 16, 20, 24, 26, 30 & 31 are missing, but there are some guesses without answers.
Sorry about the delay, but I'm still not stopping you from solving this. ;D
6, 7, 9, 10, 12 , 16, 20, 24, 26, 29, 30 and 31 are still answerless.
Good luck guys!
#6 Iveco Campagnola
Quote from: 75america on March 13, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
#6 Iveco Campagnola
Yes!! Very well done, that's a 3 point answer right there. It's been waiting to be solved for a very long time now, good job.
7, 9, 10, 12 , 16, 20, 24, 26, 29, 30 and 31 are still waiting for a good home people, please put them out of their misery!
24.: 2001 Webasto Welcome
Quote from: Allemano on May 29, 2009, 03:51:32 AM
24.: 2001 Webasto Welcome Yes!
#24 most certainly is the Webasto Welcome. Anyone else recognize some of the remaining tidbits? Don't hold back now...
I've been getting the itch recently for another one of these, and I've found some fantastic candidates, but there's so many left here!
So far the technique that works best when noone knows the answer, is to start asking questions.....
DHoffmann, the problem is....there are so many unsolved puzzles by many puzzlers and it's getting more and more each day! :-\
Quote from: Allemano on October 04, 2009, 02:49:20 PM
DHoffmann, the problem is....there are so many unsolved puzzles by many puzzlers and it's getting more and more each day! :-\
I know. This is why I ended up doing mostly group puzzles, because they contain (in my 4 current puzzles) something like 200 individual puzzles, but this way they're kept neatly in 4 threads. Perhaps it's a way to save some space, just merge one users' threads into one larger 'multi-guess' one once they get long in the tooth?
Let's solve this.
Still missing:
#7 - Is it a 3-wheeler?
#9 - Japanese concept?
#10 - Delage D8?
#12 - German?
#16 - A manufacturer's prototype or an independant's (Sbarro-Rinspeed-etc..)
#20 - American?
#26 - Japanes?
#29 - German?
#30 - German?
#31 - One-off?
Let's change strategy:
#10 - Voisin C15 Roadster Saliot
I think that number #31 is a Lancia Aerodinamica by Zagato
#20 - Thank to Allemano I can say that is a JAG
#31 - Should be the Lancia Aprilia by Viotti
I know there is a discussion about this Aprilia in the expert section, but since I'm not allowed to post there....
This pic cames from an opera dedicated to the Lancia Story: 47 booklets. This one comes from the booklet dedicated to the Lancia Aprilia Derivate...they are all there, Zagato, Pininfarina and others.
(Of course João get the point, because he found the car.)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Let's solve this.
Still missing:
#7 - Is it a 3-wheeler?
#9 - Japanese concept?
#10 - Delage D8?
#12 - German?
#16 - A manufacturer's prototype or an independant's (Sbarro-Rinspeed-etc..)
#20 - American?
#26 - Japanes?
#29 - German?
#30 - German?
#31 - One-off?
B U M P !
If my memory doesn't play tricks on me you exactly know what #20 is.. ;)
I think it is solved now, so technically you know it too!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on August 20, 2010, 09:38:35 AM
I think it is solved now, so technically you know it too!
Did I miss something? ???
You are right, I know what is #20...but I can't remember why I did not post the answer...do you remember where is that UFO-car?
PM sent
Thank You Allemano.
#20 is the brazilian JAG.
If I remeber correctly it was made by Gurgel.
Here's the pic:
At your service! (http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/boese/1/0004.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
Let's solve this puzzle!
Number #16 it's the 2001 Chevrolet Celta Spyder (Again!)
DHoffmann was last active in August.
Hope he's alright! :-[
Black Hole for this one, until Mr. Hoffmann comes home.
31. Porsche 356 on a VW Beetle
Quote from: João on March 22, 2010, 01:24:49 PM
I think that number #31 is a Lancia Aerodinamica by Zagato
Quote from: Oguerrerob on August 28, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
31. Porsche 356 on a VW Beetle
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2010, 03:12:24 AM
#20 - Thank to Allemano I can say that is a JAG
#31 - Should be the Lancia Aprilia by Viotti
Though DHoffmann has never been answered #31 is definetly solved I guess. Bad luck this time Oguerrerob ;).
I'm OK with that. I'm just trying to reduce the quantity of Black Hole Post
Quote from: Oguerrerob on August 28, 2011, 05:46:01 PM
I'm OK with that. I'm just trying to reduce the quantity of Black Hole Post
I guess I'm not the only one who really appreciates that :), but you shouldn't waste the energy you need for other BHolers. ;D
Oh wow, I was happily cruising the black hole for puzzles I might recognize when to my horror this pops up! I had no idea it had gone unfinished and relegated to the last (!!) page of the black hole. Of course this must be resolved quickly! I shall do my best to gather up what guesses have been correctly made since my last appearance here and get an idea of how many are left to solve.
Anyone for or against this leaving the black hole whilst it gets completed?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Let's solve this.
Still missing:
#7 - Is it a 3-wheeler? Nope, 4 firmly planted wheels.
#9 - Japanese concept? Also decidedly not.
#10 - Delage D8? Not a Delage.
#12 - German? Not German, but close
#16 - A manufacturer's prototype or an independant's (Sbarro-Rinspeed-etc..) Manufacturer's prototype is correct.
#20 - American? Nyet.
#26 - Japanes? Nee.
#29 - German? Nein.
#30 - German? Ne.
#31 - One-off? I believe so
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2010, 05:31:26 PM
Let's change strategy:
#10 - Voisin C15 Roadster Saliot Not Voisin either.
Quote from: João on March 22, 2010, 01:24:49 PM
I think that number #31 is a Lancia Aerodinamica by Zagato See discussion at the bottom of this page...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2010, 03:12:24 AM
#20 - Thank to Allemano I can say that is a JAG Combined with the Gurgel answer below, yes that is correct!
#31 - Should be the Lancia Aprilia by Viotti See discussion at the bottom of this page...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 15, 2010, 03:20:20 AM
I know there is a discussion about this Aprilia in the expert section, but since I'm not allowed to post there....
This pic cames from an opera dedicated to the Lancia Story: 47 booklets. This one comes from the booklet dedicated to the Lancia Aprilia Derivate...they are all there, Zagato, Pininfarina and others.
(Of course João get the point, because he found the car.) See discussion at the bottom of this page...
Quote from: João on February 15, 2011, 10:16:28 AM
Let's solve this puzzle!
Number #16 it's the 2001 Chevrolet Celta Spyder (Again!) Yes that is correct!
Quote from: Allemano on February 15, 2011, 01:09:27 PM
DHoffmann was last active in August.
Hope he's alright! :-[ Thanks for the concern :)
Quote from: Oguerrerob on August 28, 2011, 04:32:07 PM
31. Porsche 356 on a VW Beetle As discussed by others, no it isn't.
So for 31 most of the details are there, but the name I have of the coachbuilder is different. I have no source for my image anymore, it does not seem to appear on google images anymore either. I do see that there is a single source for the Zagato name, with the image posted by Joao and PJ featuring there. The Viotti name adds some images of scale models but the same image already posted is the only one of the real car.
I'm thus a little uncertain how to proceed. If my source is correct, I don't think I can give the point? If viotti is correct does the point go to PJ despite the base of the car being guessed earlier by Joao? Anyone with thoughts on this?
So currently still unsolved are:
#7, #9, #10, #12, #26, #29 and #30 (sort of #31?)
OK I've moved this here for more exposure and the final push to finally get the images solved!
To reiterate, the remaining unsolved cars are: #7, #9, #10, #12, #26, #29 and #30 (sort of #31?)
#10 = 1934 Renault Vivastella
I think #10 could be a Renault Vivasport. If so, the last guess wasn't far off.
Quote from: Tom_I on May 11, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
I think #10 could be a Renault Vivasport. If so, the last guess wasn't far off.
Not a Renault, but thus far all the guesses have been in the correct country.
1933/34 Citroën Rosalie?
Quote from: ropat53 on May 11, 2015, 09:31:58 PM
1933/34 Citroën Rosalie?
It's not a Citroen, but there is a Citroen connection.
1934 Berliet 9CV
#10: Unic U6?
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 02:30:07 AM
#10: Unic U6?
Getting very close in looks, but not a Unic either.
#10: Salmson S4D?
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 04:36:37 AM
#10: Salmson S4D?
Not them either, but even closer looks wise!
#10: Chenard et Walcker Aiglon?
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 05:10:06 AM
#10: Chenard et Walcker Aiglon?
Another no, I'm afraid!
#10: 1934 Talbot T105
#10: Rosengart LR505?
Quote from: ropat53 on May 12, 2015, 07:38:19 AM
#10: 1934 Talbot T105
Not a Talbot
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 07:39:54 AM
#10: Rosengart LR505?
Once again, exceptionally similar, but not a Rosengart...
#10: La Licorne 8 CV?
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
#10: La Licorne 8 CV?
It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!
#31- May I ask which is your answer? The car is quite known, I have a picture of it few steps from Luigi Pagani's workshop, were the Lancia engine was tuned. It was built for Luciano Agosti and it ended in Enrico Adanti's hands.
I have some articles about, but Zagato is never mentioned.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 12, 2015, 08:43:06 AM
#31- May I ask which is your answer? The car is quite known, I have a picture of it few steps from Luigi Pagani's workshop, were the Lancia engine was tuned. It was built for Luciano Agosti and it ended in Enrico Adanti's hands.
I have some articles about, but Zagato is never mentioned.
So that would mean the Viotti is the correct answer? This would mean that the point is yours rather than Joao's with his Zagato guess...
I'm very happy to admit that my source at the time would have been incorrect, especially considering the lack of results I'm getting now, it was named as a Lancia Aprilia Sport by Motto.
We had that car here:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.0
I'll look for a pic of a Motto bodied Lancia of 1938 that, according to my index, should be in the Catalogue Raissonee.
Joao's obviously found the car, you can give him his point. ;)
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 12, 2015, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
#10: La Licorne 8 CV?
It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!
Going by the louvers, it seems to be a 1935 model. Since it is not an 8 CV, it could be an 11 CV.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 12, 2015, 10:23:37 AM
We had that car here:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11907.0
I'll look for a pic of a Motto bodied Lancia of 1938 that, according to my index, should be in the Catalogue Raissonee.
Joao's obviously found the car, you can give him his point. ;)
Thanks for the link, in your thread America75 says: "While I agree with PJ that it is most probably a Viotti creation, I want to point out that in the book 'La Lancia' by Wim Oude Weernink, the car is identified as: ...Turin coachbuilder Motto with his interpretation for an aerodynamic Mille Miglia coupé in 1938, to be driven by Luigi 'Gigi' Villoresi."
which may very well be where my source got Motto from, but my image quite clearly shows it in the same race configuration as your bottom image at the '6 ore di Pescara' so I'll mark it as solved, and your upon your insistence by Joao. :)
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 12, 2015, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 08:13:31 AM
#10: La Licorne 8 CV?
It IS a La Licorne, but not 8 CV. Held for you for the correct model!
Going by the louvers, it seems to be a 1935 model. Since it is not an 8 CV, it could be an 11 CV.
The louvres actually point to a very specific configuration, which I do believe is based on the 11 CV, but La Licorne appear to have given their own names to so I do still require that name.
I know which one you are talking about, I came across it yesterday while going through my books. I'll have to look up the correct name tonight.
It should be the Licorne Type MIR Grand Confort.
Quote from: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 12:14:46 PM
It should be the Licorne Type MIR Grand Confort.
That's... not what I have...
Have you got any photos to go with that name?
Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:
I finally found the #10 car. It is a 1935 Licorne 11CV Type B4 Coupé by Duval. Licorne called its three-window coupe usually La Baule. Is that the name you are looking for?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 08:38:46 AM
Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:
Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...
Quote from: Wendax on May 14, 2015, 09:11:41 AM
I finally found the #10 car. It is a 1935 Licorne 11CV Type B4 Coupé by Duval. Licorne called its three-window coupe usually La Baule. Is that the name you are looking for?
There we go! I have it as La Licorne 420 (internal name for 11CV it seems) Coupe by Duval. I hadn't seen the La Baule designation before, but you've already provided the requisite information so this is just a cherry on top! Well done!
This leaves just 5 puzzle pieces before this one can finally be retired! I've attached them here for easier finding:
7. (http://i.imgur.com/2W0DVgf.jpg)
9. (http://i.imgur.com/Ok9njSW.jpg)
12. (http://i.imgur.com/Q1cMfhy.jpg)
26. (http://i.imgur.com/xbayMSV.jpg)
29. (http://i.imgur.com/OeWk33W.jpg)
Home stretch folks, any questions to help identify any of these vehicles?
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 14, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 08:38:46 AM
Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:
Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...
My idea is the car was 'presumed' bodied by Motto when that pic was published, but then it was definetly credited to Viotti. The catalogue says 'probably built by Motto'.
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 14, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
This leaves just 5 puzzle pieces before this one can finally be retired! I've attached them here for easier finding:
7. (http://i.imgur.com/2W0DVgf.jpg)
9. (http://i.imgur.com/Ok9njSW.jpg)
12. (http://i.imgur.com/Q1cMfhy.jpg)
26. (http://i.imgur.com/xbayMSV.jpg)
29. (http://i.imgur.com/OeWk33W.jpg)
Home stretch folks, any questions to help identify any of these vehicles?
What about #30
#7 : German concept car built between 2000 and 2005 ?
#9 : rear-engined car with sliding roof built in Europe after 2000 ?
#12 : Austrian concept car built between 1995 and 2000 ?
#26 : concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ?
#29 : Japanese concept car built between 1986 and 1992 ?
#30. Concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ?
Is any of the missing ones from the States?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 15, 2015, 04:25:06 AM
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 14, 2015, 09:20:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 08:38:46 AM
Finally I had the time to scan that page from the Lancia catalogue:
Thanks! There the name Motto appears once again, so my initial labelling was correct. Was it a Viotti design BUILT by Motto or was Motto behind it the whole way? Or was the Lancia catalogue incorrect...
My idea is the car was 'presumed' bodied by Motto when that pic was published, but then it was definetly credited to Viotti. The catalogue says 'probably built by Motto'.
I'm happy to go with that as the answer, given that the puzzle images came from the web ~4 years ago I wouldn't have had the up to date answer.
Quote from: Oguerrerob on May 15, 2015, 04:34:58 AM
What about #30
Hah, whoops! And that one too - thanks for adding that on there!
Quote from: oko94 on May 15, 2015, 04:56:21 AM
#7 : German concept car built between 2000 and 2005 ? Not German, not from that period.
#9 : rear-engined car with sliding roof built in Europe after 2000 ? Not rear engined nor sliding roof, but post 2000 European, yes.
#12 : Austrian concept car built between 1995 and 2000 ? Not Austrian, period is correct.
#26 : concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ? Yes European, wrong period.
#29 : Japanese concept car built between 1986 and 1992 ? Not Japanese nor from that period.
Quote from: oko94 on May 15, 2015, 05:19:36 AM
#30. Concept car built in Europe between 1990 and 1995 ? Not a concept car, yes European but I cannot find a date actually, so I'm not sure...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 15, 2015, 08:22:07 AM
Is any of the missing ones from the States?
No, none of them are.
#7. Made in Europe before 2000 ?
#9. Mid-engined, made in a Mediterranean country after 2005 ?
#12. Made in Switzerland before 1995 ?
#26. Made in Germany before 1995 ?
#29. Made in Europe after 1992 ?
#30. Made in a Mediterranean country ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 04:17:12 AM
#7. Made in Europe before 2000 ? Yes to both.
#9. Mid-engined, made in a Mediterranean country after 2005 ? Yes, no, yes.
#12. Made in Switzerland before 1995 ? Not Swiss, not before 1995 as the period selected was correct last guess. ;)
#26. Made in Germany before 1995 ? Yes to both.
#29. Made in Europe after 1992 ? Yes to both.
#30. Made in a Mediterranean country ? No it was not.
Is #26 one of Luigi Colani's creations?
#7. Made in a Mediterranean country between 1995 and 2000 ?
#9. Made in Germany between 2005 and 2010 ?
#12. Made in Benelux between 1995 and 1997 ?
#26. BMW design study ?
#29. Made in a Mediterranean country between 1992 and 1995 ?
#30. Made in Benelux ?
Ok, I'll join:
#7: Not a 3-wheeler. European pre 2000. British?
#9: Mid-engined post 2005 European but not mediterranean. Swedish?
#12: Not Swiss or Austrian between 1995-2000. European?
#26: Germany pre 1995. From Design studio?
#29: Europe post 1992. German?
#30: European not mediterranean. Not a concept. Year unknown. Swedish?
Quote from: Wendax on May 18, 2015, 04:58:18 AM
Is #26 one of Luigi Colani's creations?
No, Colani was not involved.
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 05:02:35 AM
#7. Made in a Mediterranean country between 1995 and 2000 ? Not from the Med. Correct period.
#9. Made in Germany between 2005 and 2010 ? Not German. Correct period.
#12. Made in Benelux between 1995 and 1997 ? Not from the Benelux. One of those years is correct.
#26. BMW design study ? Yes, this is from BMW! This point is held for your next post with (hopefully) the correct model!
#29. Made in a Mediterranean country between 1992 and 1995 ? Not from the Med. Wrong period.
#30. Made in Benelux ? Not from the Benelux area.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 18, 2015, 05:03:06 AM
Ok, I'll join:
#7: Not a 3-wheeler. European pre 2000. British? No, not British.
#9: Mid-engined post 2005 European but not mediterranean. Swedish? Not Swedish
#12: Not Swiss or Austrian between 1995-2000. European? Indeed it is European.
#26: Germany pre 1995. From Design studio? As per oko94's response, this one is currently locked! But it's by BMW.
#29: Europe post 1992. German? Not German.
#30: European not mediterranean. Not a concept. Year unknown. Swedish? Not Swedish.
#12 is the 1996 Heuliez Intruder concept, based on Mercedes-Benz G, with targa roof. The 1998 version with retractable hardtop had a slightly different design.
Your "not German but close" answer confused me until I figured out that it had to be a non-German concept based on a German car.
#26 is 1991 BMW C1 Concept
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 10:38:26 AM
#12 is the 1996 Heuliez Intruder concept, based on Mercedes-Benz G, with targa roof. The 1998 version with retractable hardtop had a slightly different design.
Your "not German but close" answer confused me until I figured out that it had to be a non-German concept based on a German car.
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 03:18:05 PM
#26 is 1991 BMW C1 Concept
2 down, just 4 to go!
#7. Made in Benelux between 1995 and 1997 ?
#9. Made in UK between 2005 and 2007 ?
#29. Made in UK between 1995 and 1997 ?
#30. Made in UK ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 06:04:34 PM
#7. Made in Benelux between 1995 and 1997 ? No to both.
#9. Made in UK between 2005 and 2007 ? UK is correct, period is not.
#29. Made in UK between 1995 and 1997 ? No to both.
#30. Made in UK ? Not from the UK.
#7. Made in Switzerland between 1998 and 2000 ?
#9. Made in UK in 2008 ?
#29. Made in Scandinavia between 1998 and 2002 ?
#30. Made in Austria ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 18, 2015, 07:26:59 PM
#7. Made in Switzerland between 1998 and 2000 ? Yes on both counts!
#9. Made in UK in 2008 ? Yes on both also!
#29. Made in Scandinavia between 1998 and 2002 ? Not Scandinavian.
#30. Made in Austria ? Not Austrian.
#7. Was Sbarro involved ?
#9. Made by a design studio ?
#29. Made in Benelux between 1998 and 2000 ?
#30. Made in Switzerland ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 19, 2015, 12:04:27 PM
#7. Was Sbarro involved ? Why yes, yes he was! Held for you.
#9. Made by a design studio ? Nope, this is a fully fledged product.
#29. Made in Benelux between 1998 and 2000 ? No from the Benelux region, period is correct.
#30. Made in Switzerland ? Not Swiss, no.
I'm totally confused by #7. I've checked all Sbarros from 1998 to 2000 and I can't find any car with the detail you've posted. Is it an obscure Sbarro, or a non-Sbarro project he was involved in ?
#9. Made by a small car make known for other cars ?
#29. 1998 Lada Rapan concept car
#30. Made in Eastern Europe ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 20, 2015, 04:11:49 AM
I'm totally confused by #7. I've checked all Sbarros from 1998 to 2000 and I can't find any car with the detail you've posted. Is it an obscure Sbarro, or a non-Sbarro project he was involved in ? I vividly remember being excited when I found this one due to the location of the detail. ;) I can't give any more clues without giving it away, but it's definitely a Sbarro.
#9. Made by a small car make known for other cars ? Not known for anything else, no.
#29. 1998 Lada Rapan concept car Yessir it is! One more down!
#30. Made in Eastern Europe ? Bingo! That hopefully narrows it down some.
#7. 1999 VW Golf Foliatec Millenium ?
#9. Based on an existing British mechanical base ?
#30. Made in Czech Republic ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 21, 2015, 07:49:27 AM
#7. 1999 VW Golf Foliatec Millenium ? Created by Sbarro, yes!
#9. Based on an existing British mechanical base ? I believe it would have to be, but they're a little vague on their website.
#30. Made in Czech Republic ? No it was not.
#9. Is it a 2-door 2-seat car ?
#30. Made in Russia ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 22, 2015, 02:59:51 AM
#9. Is it a 2-door 2-seat car ?
#30. Made in Russia ?
Both correct.
#30: Dragon Motor Astero
Quote from: Wendax on May 22, 2015, 03:29:07 AM
#30: Dragon Motor Astero
Yes indeed it was. Happen to know a rough period? Short of going through Russian classifieds I can't seem to find a way of pinning down when these were made.
And so, that leaves just ONE before this one can finally see it's well deserved resting place in the solved section!
I think the Astero appeared first in 1997.
#9 - Is it a kit-car?
#9 - Is it a competition car?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 22, 2015, 06:02:15 AM
#9 - Is it a competition car?
Nope, regular road car.
Kind of Buggy or Sports car (or none?)
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 22, 2015, 06:21:56 AM
Kind of Buggy or Sports car (or none?)
Sports car, is there any other kind in Britain? ;D
#9. Is it a coupé or a roadster ?
First letter of the manufacturer between A and M ?
Was it featured here before?
Quote from: oko94 on May 26, 2015, 02:59:58 AM
First letter of the manufacturer between A and M ?
Yes.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 26, 2015, 04:22:08 AM
Was it featured here before?
It has indeed been through the halls of Autopuzzles, yes.
First letter between A and F ?
First letter between F and I ?
Is the first letter "J" ?
Is the first letter "K" ?
Is the first letter "L" ?
Or 'M'? ;D
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 27, 2015, 03:33:50 AM
Or 'M'? ;D
Lucky last! ;D
Yes it begins with M, not L.
Is the brand name an acronym ?
Sequana by Madness Design?
Forget it... :-\
MMI AVOCET!!!
Well done !
Hi, DHoffmann, would you be so kind to include the names of the vehicles in the Solved post please?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 27, 2015, 06:11:04 AM
MMI AVOCET!!!
Spot on! Congratulations!! Finally 7 years after this puzzle was first started it can be put to rest!
Quote from: el_monty on May 29, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
Hi, DHoffmann, would you be so kind to include the names of the vehicles in the Solved post please?
Yep, can do.
Thanks!