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Title: Early Automotive Ennui #500 - Rumsey Electric Company, Limited, 1910
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 03, 2013, 06:52:18 AM
For one point: Name That Car!

Only a correct, complete and specific answer will earn a point; tag-on's to other guesses will not. So, be specific and complete!
 
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 14, 2013, 04:38:22 AM
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Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on July 14, 2013, 10:04:10 AM
1914 Saxon at the Christening of Lincoln Highway. Jay Croker and Fred Wilson traveled across the Continent in 30 Days arriving in San Francisco on the 4th of July.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2013, 04:16:57 AM
Not exactly
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on July 15, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
1915 Saxon roadster
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2013, 01:02:35 PM
No sold as a Saxon, nor by Saxon, though I suspect it started life as a Saxon.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on July 15, 2013, 02:12:25 PM
I can't find anything about Saxon built under license, they were originally made by Chalmers but always carried the Saxon name.
Was it made outside USA?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 15, 2013, 03:35:24 PM
It's from the US.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on July 15, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
I give up, I've been unable to find any other car maker that made an exact copy of the 1914 Saxon Model A roadster.
I found Saxons were built at the former Abbott-Detroit and later at the former Scripps-Booth factories but that's all that connects these names. If the puzzle car was a Saxon it would be 1914, because by 1915 the gas cowl head lamps had been replaced by standard front mounted electric lights.
Below is a picture of a 1914 Saxon Model A roadster and I can't find a single difference with the puzzle car other than the lack of a speedometer gear on the right front wheel, even the emblem on the radiator looks the same.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 16, 2013, 08:22:24 AM
The non-automotive site from which I pulled this (cropped) picture may be incorrect. But the part of the photo that is cropped-out seems to corroborate their identification of the car.

Since it's either a modified, licensed or copied Saxon, I've given you a point.

Another point is on offer for anyone who can identify what's missing in this picture, and therefor, the rest of the story.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 20, 2013, 04:31:36 AM
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Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Wendax on July 20, 2013, 02:36:56 PM
Any connection to the Jno D Woodhouse Co?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 21, 2013, 04:24:55 AM
No sir.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 27, 2013, 06:33:18 AM
I'm shocked that there are no current guesses about this one.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 01:58:04 AM
is the non-automotive site a daily?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2013, 03:22:28 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 01:58:04 AM
is the non-automotive site a daily?

No sir
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 03:31:10 AM
is the non-automotive site a picture archive?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2013, 04:23:05 AM
Information in a variety of formats, including photographs, is featured.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 04:35:52 AM
a photo library?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2013, 05:19:21 AM
The site includes many searchable photographs.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 05:24:09 AM
is the site related to a university?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2013, 05:28:54 AM
No.

A substantial clue was proffered in an earlier posting.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on July 29, 2013, 06:17:23 AM
an archive of a newspaper which has recently been put online?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 29, 2013, 06:34:34 AM
No sire.

The clue I referred to preceded your source guesses.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: D-type on August 01, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Was it named Abbott-Detroit or Scripps-Booth?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on August 01, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 27, 2013, 06:33:18 AM
I'm shocked that there are no current guesses about this one.

Is the fact that you are shocked that there are no current guesses, connected to a hydroelectric dam?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 02, 2013, 03:53:35 AM
No sir
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on August 02, 2013, 05:33:21 AM
Is this maker reported in any other source that you know (books or websites)?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 02, 2013, 06:37:19 AM
A quick search says "no"
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: nicanary on August 03, 2013, 03:32:08 PM
Was the car sold by a catalogue company under their name rather than the maker ?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 04, 2013, 03:23:59 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on August 01, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on July 27, 2013, 06:33:18 AM
I'm shocked that there are no current guesses about this one.

Is the fact that you are shocked that there are no current guesses, connected to a hydroelectric dam?

While incorrect, ropat53 gut the meaning of the clue.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 04, 2013, 03:27:30 AM
Quote from: nicanary on August 03, 2013, 03:32:08 PM
Was the car sold by a catalogue company under their name rather than the maker ?

Very little information is available, but I expect that's more or less correct.

You've also stumbled upon the missing element of the puzzle pic.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: nicanary on August 04, 2013, 10:25:35 AM
To be honest, I'm completely baffled. There appears to be a connection with a mail-order company and electric power generation. One thing's for sure, the puzzle car isn't a Sears Highwheeler ! Was it the standard company car for a power company, rebranded with their name ?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 05, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
Not electric power generation.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: nicanary on August 05, 2013, 05:28:07 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 05, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
Not electric power generation.

I thought that this clue might mean that the car was converted to electric power, but there is still an exhaust pipe fitted. So. is it sales? That is, is this car used by a national electric-goods maker, like GEC, to enable door-to-door sales, or similar, and rebadged with their name ?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 05, 2013, 05:55:54 AM
It's a curious one, indeed. The source of this photo says it is an electric car. The longet this puzzle goes, the more I think that source is in error.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 01, 2013, 07:16:29 AM
I'm moving this to the Black Hole. Anyone who can scrounge up the answer I'm after (it's available online), you'll get two points.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 18, 2015, 03:43:14 AM
R _ _ _ _ _  E _ _ _ _ _ _ _  C _ _ _ _ _ _ , L _ _ _ _ _ _
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
Rogers Electric Carrier, Lansign?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 04:25:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
Rogers Electric Carrier, Lansign?

R _ _ _ _ _  Electric C _ _ _ _ _ _ , L _ _ _ _ _ _
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 04:45:56 AM
Ranger Electric Company?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 04:54:28 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 04:45:56 AM
Ranger Electric Company?

R _ _ _ _ _  Electric Company, L _ _ _ _ _ _
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:30:50 AM
Is the 1st word a name, like Ronald?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Wendax on January 19, 2015, 06:52:26 AM
From Lincoln?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 12:09:28 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:30:50 AM
Is the 1st word a name, like Ronald?

I believe it would be a last name.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: Wendax on January 19, 2015, 06:52:26 AM
From Lincoln?

No. The last word referrs to the type of business.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on January 19, 2015, 12:50:30 PM
Roebuck Electric Company Ltd?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 04:08:20 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on January 19, 2015, 12:50:30 PM
Roebuck Electric Company Ltd?

R _ _ _ _ _  Electric Company, Limited.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: 4popoid on January 19, 2015, 04:19:08 PM
Ruland Electric Company, Limited.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on January 19, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
Ragnall Electric Co Ltd?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 19, 2015, 04:19:08 PM
Ruland Electric Company, Limited.

Ru _ _ _ _ Electric Company, Limited.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 05:06:43 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on January 19, 2015, 04:25:26 PM
Ragnall Electric Co Ltd?

No sir
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:10:47 PM
Russel?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 19, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:10:47 PM
Russel?

R u _ s e _ Electric Company, Limited.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:25:16 PM
Runsey?
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: ropat53 on January 19, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Rutsen
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: 4popoid on January 19, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
Rumsey Electric Company, Limited.
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: pnegyesi on January 19, 2015, 11:54:28 PM
And 4popoid kills it! Congrats
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 20, 2015, 03:44:52 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 19, 2015, 05:25:16 PM
Runsey?

Missed it by one letter!
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 20, 2015, 03:45:10 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on January 19, 2015, 05:47:00 PM
Rutsen

No
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500
Post by: Otto Puzzell on January 20, 2015, 03:45:53 AM
Quote from: 4popoid on January 19, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
Rumsey Electric Company, Limited.

Ta da.  :)
Title: Re: Early Automotive Ennui #500 - Rumsey Electric Company, Limited, 1910
Post by: 4popoid on January 20, 2015, 08:32:45 AM
Thanks Otto, and Pal.  Apparently Rumsey is still out there.  Their current logo: