Here we have a pretty little thing. What is it and who is it by? 1 point available!
On the up'n'up!
A rendering for the Innocenti 1100 Spyder?
Quote from: Zerk on April 27, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
A rendering for the Innocenti 1100 Spyder?
'Fraid not.
Is it Italian?
Quote from: richard cuyler on April 29, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
Is it Italian?
Unfortunately the motherboard of the computer with images of this car exploded a couple days ago and I don't currently have any of my files accessible, so I'm sorry I cannot answer this question right now as I don't remember much of anything about this one!
I assure you I will get back to it as soon as I can.
Quote from: richard cuyler on April 29, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
Is it Italian?
I've managed to track down the source I got this from, and no - it is not Italian.
Is it German and by someone who thought the BMW 507 needed some aesthetic help?
A bit like some overly self-confident plastic surgeon saying he could definitely improve Shakira's face a with complete facialplasty. :D
Quote from: richard cuyler on May 05, 2015, 05:55:40 AM
Is it German and by someone who thought the BMW 507 needed some aesthetic help?
A bit like some overly self-confident plastic surgeon saying he could definitely improve Shakira's face a with complete facialplasty. :D
Not from
Germany as such...
And think of it more as an aesthetic proposal than make-over. This wasn't really attempted to improve on something. The period would be correct, so there may well be some influence there.
...From the BMW, decidedly less so Shakira!
Enough Shakira, more professionals!
Any Virgil Exner involvement?
Quote from: Wendax on May 09, 2015, 06:03:40 AM
Any Virgil Exner involvement?
Not with this one I'm afraid.
Side exhaust is not really a European thing, so it from the USA ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 09, 2015, 06:24:07 AM
Side exhaust is not really a European thing, so it from the USA ?
Not from the USA, there's a hint above in an earlier answer.
Penned by Albrecht von Goertz?
Quote from: nicanary on May 09, 2015, 06:40:18 AM
Penned by Albrecht von Goertz?
Not Goertz either, no.
You did say it was not from Germany as such, but does that mean it was based on a German car?
Quote from: Carnut on May 09, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
You did say it was not from Germany as such, but does that mean it was based on a German car?
You're looking at the correct hint, wrong answer!
Proposal for a new Denzel?
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 09, 2015, 08:05:37 AM
Quote from: Carnut on May 09, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
You did say it was not from Germany as such, but does that mean it was based on a German car?
You're looking at the correct hint, wrong answer!
So a German proposal based on a foreign car?
By Karmann?
Quote from: Carnut on May 09, 2015, 09:42:48 AM
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 09, 2015, 08:05:37 AM
Quote from: Carnut on May 09, 2015, 07:53:58 AM
You did say it was not from Germany as such, but does that mean it was based on a German car?
You're looking at the correct hint, wrong answer!
So a German proposal based on a foreign car?
Not that either! Basically the car is the proposal in and of itself, not to provide a base for anything else. There is something special in the idea behind this vehicle.
Quote from: WayneB on May 09, 2015, 05:21:00 PM
By Karmann?
Not Karmann, no.
The designer did not go on to work in the design process of cars, but did remain in the automotive field in a related way.
BMW related ?
Quote from: mekubb on May 09, 2015, 07:19:56 PM
BMW related ?
No, as far as I'm aware this was purely a styling exercise, and relation to other vehicles is by coincidence or inspiration.
did he became an automotive industry executive?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 10, 2015, 03:07:20 AM
did he became an automotive industry executive?
Not nearly so successful.
did he start his own company which failed?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 10, 2015, 03:56:48 AM
did he start his own company which failed?
Not to my knowledge, from what I can find his work was for other people.
was he a modeller?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 10, 2015, 02:24:25 PM
was he a modeller?
Not as far as I'm aware, but closer to the line of work he did end up in.
- I daresay most people have seen at least some of his work, knowingly or not.
Was he an illustrator ?
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 09, 2015, 05:49:21 AM
Enough Shakira, more professionals!
There is never enough Shakira. :D :D
Quote from: oko94 on May 11, 2015, 03:33:57 AM
Was he an illustrator ?
Yes, yes he was! (Is? I can't really find any biographical information about him for some reason...)
Quote from: richard cuyler on May 11, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
Quote from: DHoffmann on May 09, 2015, 05:49:21 AM
Enough Shakira, more professionals!
There is never enough Shakira. :D :D
;D
Was he an American illustrator of German descent ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2015, 01:19:58 AM
Was he an American illustrator of German descent ?
No, that's not quite the correct 'use' of the clue. ;)
Mark Stehrenberger?
Is it an illustration of an imaginary German car made by an American illustrator ?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 12, 2015, 02:55:46 AM
Mark Stehrenberger?
Not him.
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2015, 03:08:41 AM
Is it an illustration of an imaginary German car made by an American illustrator ?
I don't believe this car to have ever been made, no, but I do have some more images with proof of concept.
He was not American.
I rephrase my previous question : was it an illustration for an imaginary car from an existing German brand (like "NSU Graf" or "BMW 508") or an imaginary car from an imaginary German brand (like "Müller Sport" or "Schröder RS"), or something else entirely ? I'm trying to figure out that German hint...
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2015, 05:04:12 AM
I rephrase my previous question : was it an illustration for an imaginary car from an existing German brand (like "NSU Graf" or "BMW 508") or an imaginary car from an imaginary German brand (like "Müller Sport" or "Schröder RS"), or something else entirely ? I'm trying to figure out that German hint...
Ah sorry misinterpreted that. It was an imaginary concept - no brand name attached - for this vehicle with a specific purpose that would appeal. See the image I've attached here for a hint at what it would be for.
The German hint is that German is a language as well as a country....
So the illustrator in question came up with these nice pictures to advertise a product from a German-speaking country, like Switzerland?
Quote from: pnegyesi on May 12, 2015, 06:51:08 AM
So the illustrator in question came up with these nice pictures to advertise a product from a German-speaking country, like Switzerland?
Not to advertise a product, but rather himself.
Yes, he is Swiss.
Werner Bührer ?
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2015, 08:13:23 AM
Werner Bührer ?
Yes! So, held for you, using the two available images what do you think the purpose of this design study was?
Should be a modular car that can be converted from roadster to shooting brake pretty much like a Nissan Pulsar EXA.
Quote from: oko94 on May 12, 2015, 08:25:08 AM
Should be a modular car that can be converted from roadster to shooting brake pretty much like a Nissan Pulsar EXA.
And coupe, but absolutely that is correct, very well done!
The text accompanying these images:
This idea for different combinations of basic panel and structural elements to produce a range of vehicles at minimum tooling cost comes from Werner Bührer, a 25-year old Swiss student body designer working in Stuttgart. The basic model is a two-seater sports car which can be changed into a convertible or a hard top coupe, retaining the same panels below the waistline. Suggestions are also made for producing an occasional four-seater station wagon by removing the rear deck and fitting a different roof and for a Gran Tusimo coupe with four seats.
The sketches, worked in perspective, show a good feeling for line and balance of masses, although the basic idea is not entirely new. Apparently the intention in this scheme is that the owner should have a stock of sufficient different parts to provide him with a range of body types to suit all his motoring needs. With garage space often impossible to find, the question arises where he would store the parts not in use. The scheme would certainly fail unless sufficient rigidity could be obtained to prevent leaks and rattles.
'Sports car with interchangeable body sections' is as close as this comes to receiving an official name.
Thanks for the point !
A nice case of "How to solve a puzzle without finding the solution anywhere".
Any idea when this work dates from?
Quote from: Zerk on April 27, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
A rendering for the Innocenti 1100 Spyder?
I can see why Zerk asked this, as the upsweep of the grille at the sides leading to the position of the headlights is very similar to the Innocenti, which was of course by Tom Tjaarda. Which came first?
For what it's worth I think the design looks great!
Quote from: Carnut on May 12, 2015, 09:18:36 AM
Any idea when this work dates from?
Quote from: Zerk on April 27, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
A rendering for the Innocenti 1100 Spyder?
I can see why Zerk asked this, as the upsweep of the grille at the sides leading to the position of the headlights is very similar to the Innocenti, which was of course by Tom Tjaarda. Which came first?
For what it's worth I think the design looks great!
Agreed, I think it's a fantastic looking proposal.
This dates from 1960, so actually about a year prior to the Innocenti!