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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2015 => Topic started by: DHoffmann on May 09, 2015, 06:21:26 AM
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What's this vehicle, and what inspired it?
1 point up for grabs!
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Up.
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is it a autonova concept car?
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is it a autonova concept car?
Nope, Autonova was not involved with this whatsoever.
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by any chance American concept?
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by any chance American concept?
Not this chance I'm afraid!
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was it ever actually built?,pretty neat place for suit case.
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was it ever actually built?,pretty neat place for suit case.
No I don't believe this ever made it past the drawing board unfortunately. The inspiration for it was a reality however, but also illustrates why this one never progressed further...
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was it European,if so german?
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was it European,if so german?
Yes but no.
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British ?
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Italian?
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2xNo
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swiss sketch proposal?
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swiss sketch proposal?
No, not Swiss.
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Is it a Renault, I believe they had a similar lay out in one of their prototypes
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Is it a Renault, I believe they had a similar lay out in one of their prototypes
This car is not a Renault, and has no actual ties to an existing car manufacturer.
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Brooke Stevens design ?
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Brooke Stevens design ?
No it is not.
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Time for the pros methinks!
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Russian project inspired by Ghia Selene ?
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Russian project inspired by Ghia Selene ?
Not Russian, but the inspiration is spot on!
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Designed in Eastern Europe ?
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Designed in Eastern Europe ?
No it was not.
I'll add another image now that we have the inspiration!
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Designed in a Mediterranean country ?
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Designed in a Mediterranean country ?
Yes it was.
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Designed in France ?
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Seat taxi proposal?
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Designed in France ?
Yes indeed.
Seat taxi proposal?
No it was not.
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Designed by Charbonneaux ?
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Designed by Charbonneaux ?
No it was not.
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Designed by a French designer who eventually worked for a major car make (like Renault or BMW) ?
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Designed by a French designer who eventually worked for a major car make (like Renault or BMW) ?
No, quite the contrary.
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Is this designer known for other cars ?
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Voisin?
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Is this designer known for other cars ?
Not at all.
Voisin?
So not likely to be Voisin. ;D
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Is this designer known for anything else or is he totally obscure ?
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Is this designer known for anything else or is he totally obscure ?
Yes, even has a Wikipedia page.
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So it's a known French industrial designer who designed only one car during his career ? Did he design other vehicles ?
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So it's a known French industrial designer who designed only one car during his career ? Did he design other vehicles ?
As far as I can tell, he (they... Brothers designed this but only one is known.) made only this as a car concept.
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Let me rephrase my question : did he design other means of transportation (like trains, boats or planes) or was he specialized in static objects like furniture or appliances ?
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Let me rephrase my question : did he design other means of transportation (like trains, boats or planes) or was he specialized in static objects like furniture or appliances ?
Ah sorry, to the best of my knowledge this is the only transport related design he made, the rest - and what he was known for - was all static objects.
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Was he specialized in furniture design ?
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Indeed, that seems to have been his primary job.
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Pierre Paulin ?
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Pierre Paulin ?
Nope.
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Jacques Adnet ? He had a twin brother, Jean, who worked with him.
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Jacques Adnet ? He had a twin brother, Jean, who worked with him.
Nope but that would be an equally great answer given that fact!
I'm not sure the brother contributed past his involvement with this project...
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First letter of the designer's surname between A and M ?
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First letter of the designer's surname between A and M ?
Yes, it is.
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First letter between A and F ?
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First letter between A and F ?
Also yes.
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Starts with a C, like Pierre Cruège ?
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Starts with a C, like Pierre Cruège ?
No, thus not him.
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Starts with an F, like Etienne Fermigier ?
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Starts with an F, like Etienne Fermigier ?
...from 0-100 in 2 guesses!
Yup, this is Etienne and his brother Claude joined forces to design this 'forward control saloon car' very much inspired by the Ghia Selene.
The text that went along with the images:
Etienne and Claude Fermigier, French engineer and industrial designer, presented this scheme for a rear-engined forward control car inspired by Ghia's Selene. By placing driver and front passengers ahead of the front wheels it is hoped that the weight distribution will be such as to avoid excessive oversteer. The rear seat is also advanced, leaving space behind it for a big transverse luggage locker, thus solving a common problem on this type of vehicle. The engine can be a flat four or a four in line placed transversely. Cooling air is drawn in at the base of the rear window, reducing turbulence at this point.
With critique:
Such a layout can obviously give good all round vision, easy access to all seats, effective streamlining, good luggage space and free access to the engine. However, the front seats are right over the wheels, where they receive maximum upward acceleration on road bumps. The pedals are placed too high in relation to the driving seat in order to allow ground clearance under the nose which will be swinging out among pedestrians and parking meters when pulling up at the kerb. The steering gear and control runs will also be complex but solutions are not suggested in the drawings. Finally it remains to be seen whether the public would accept a type of vehicle which appears to leave the front seat occupants so vulnerable.
Once again, well done!
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Well that was pure luck but thanks for the point anyway !