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Title: SAC#917 : Car built at Technical College Hatfield for London-Paris race in 1959
Post by: SACO on February 03, 2015, 02:57:36 AM
What's this, for 1 point ?  :)
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Post by: SACO on February 15, 2015, 07:23:24 AM
Experts !
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 02:26:49 AM
Pros !
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Post by: oko94 on March 02, 2015, 03:54:48 AM
Interesting front fender design.

Made in UK ?
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 03:59:02 AM
Yes !
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Post by: oko94 on March 02, 2015, 04:20:27 AM
Related to Costin ?
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 05:16:02 AM
Not related to Costin !
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Post by: oko94 on March 02, 2015, 05:44:55 AM
Obscure carmaker or known one ?
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Post by: nicanary on March 02, 2015, 06:24:22 AM
Rejo?
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 07:02:36 AM
Obscure carmaker !
Not Rejo !
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Post by: nicanary on March 02, 2015, 07:09:37 AM
Attila-Climax Mk1 ?
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 08:09:01 AM
Not Attila !
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Post by: D-type on March 02, 2015, 04:00:43 PM
Any Elva connection?
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Post by: SACO on March 02, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
Not Elva connection !
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Post by: nicanary on March 03, 2015, 07:39:11 AM
Did the builder make a small series of cars, or is this a one-off (eigenbau)?
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Post by: SACO on March 03, 2015, 11:22:42 AM
 This is a one-off !
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Post by: nicanary on March 05, 2015, 06:38:56 AM
I don't know if you know what the engine is, but it may help me reduce my number of guesses......

Is it an MG XPAG ?
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Post by: SACO on March 05, 2015, 09:25:03 AM
I don't unfortunately know the engine !
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Post by: nicanary on October 01, 2015, 06:33:27 AM
Pegasus?
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Post by: SACO on October 08, 2015, 02:24:46 AM
Not Pegasus !
It's a car built for a very special race in 1959 !  ;)
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Post by: oko94 on October 08, 2015, 02:25:45 AM
Car versus plane race ?
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Post by: SACO on October 08, 2015, 05:28:54 AM
Not only !
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Post by: oko94 on October 08, 2015, 05:38:33 AM
1959 Daily Mail Paris to London race ?

edit: DH Technical College plane and car for 1959 London-Paris race
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Post by: nicanary on October 08, 2015, 06:17:21 AM
The college became part of Hatfield Tech, and they entered a Terrier prepared by Brian Hart. The Terrier was at that time a clubmans racing car, so that would explain the "added-on" valances over the wings to comply with road regulations.

PS That's Brian Hart in the white shirt.
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Post by: oko94 on October 08, 2015, 08:17:14 AM
So will we get half a point each ?  ;D
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Post by: nicanary on October 08, 2015, 08:27:04 AM
Quote from: oko94 on October 08, 2015, 08:17:14 AM
So will we get half a point each ?  ;D

No. You found it. I was getting nowhere - I'd forgotten about that race.
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Post by: Allan L on October 08, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
How did I miss that one!
I was at Hatfield Tech (and de Havillands) at the time, too!
The aeroplane was Druine Turbi G-AOTK, built by a group of de Havilland students, the TK Flying Group, as a successor to the series of "TK" aeroplanes designed and built at the de Havilland Technical School. If I remember correctly there was another home-made car in Paris, so they competed in a home made aeroplane and two home made cars.
Brian Hart was at DH and must have had some involvement with the engine(s) of the car(s). 1959 Hart teamed up with Len Terry to drive his Terrier Mk2 in the 1172 formula championship and won the Chapman Trophy
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Post by: nicanary on October 08, 2015, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: Allan L on October 08, 2015, 09:44:57 AM
How did I miss that one!
I was at Hatfield Tech (and de Havillands) at the time, too!
The aeroplane was Druine Turbi G-AOTK, built by a group of de Havilland students, the TK Flying Group, as a successor to the series of "TK" aeroplanes designed and built at the de Havilland Technical School. If I remember correctly there was another home-made car in Paris, so they competed in a home made aeroplane and two home made cars.
Brian Hart was at DH and must have had some involvement with the engine(s) of the car(s). 1959 Hart teamed up with Len Terry to drive his Terrier Mk2 in the 1172 formula championship and won the Chapman Trophy

It was your own post on another well-known forum which gave me the Brian Hart lead! You mentioned the plane and two homebuilt cars, and thought that one of them could have been Hart's Terrier. Well the man in the photo is definitely Hart, but the car doesn't look like his Terrier, unless it was rebodied just for this event. I think 1172-Formula cars were often road-legal, even if that wasn't in the regulations.

I can't find anything to confirm or deny exactly what this car is.
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Post by: SACO on October 09, 2015, 01:51:51 AM
Well, I don't know about it more !
Car built at Technical College Hatfield for London-Paris race in 1959 !
1 point for oko94 !  :)