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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2015 => Topic started by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 08:08:23 AM

Title: Solved: 288. of All. - 1961 DKW Roadster by Karosserie J. Welsch
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 08:08:23 AM
A hard nut to crack
(not the best pic, I know! Try to get a better one in the next few days)
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
still not the real McCoy:
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Arunas on August 16, 2009, 10:50:33 AM
British?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 10:58:04 AM
Not British!
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Arunas on August 16, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
Custom car?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
I wouldn't call it a custom car.... rather coachbuilt..
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: grobmotorix on August 16, 2009, 03:26:24 PM
There was a 1956 Zündapp Coupé prototype that was looking very much like this one.
And as far as I know, this Coupé was deigned by Pininfarina.

Is there any relation to Zündapp or Pininfarina at all?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 04:02:57 PM
There's no Zündapp relation and Pininfarina wasn't involved.

Unfortunately I only got small pics. Maybe I get bigger ones tomorrow, but can't make any promises.
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Arunas on August 16, 2009, 04:20:13 PM
American?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 16, 2009, 04:21:08 PM
Not American..
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: pnegyesi on August 17, 2009, 07:13:36 AM
Rings a very distant bell. French?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 17, 2009, 07:40:32 AM
Not French either!
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Arunas on August 17, 2009, 07:50:17 AM
European? If yes, German?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 17, 2009, 07:59:22 AM
Quote from: Arunas on August 17, 2009, 07:50:17 AM
European? If yes, German?

Yes!
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: grobmotorix on August 18, 2009, 02:32:24 AM
Is it DKW/Auto-Union-based?
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 18, 2009, 03:40:46 AM
Yes!
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: spider murphy on August 23, 2009, 05:37:46 PM
DKW Roadster, built by Joh. Welsch Karosserie & Fahrzeugbau, from Mayen (Germany) in 1968. Design; Kurt Welsch.

Kind regards,

Spider Murphy
Title: Re: 288. of All.
Post by: Allemano on August 23, 2009, 10:39:00 PM
For heaven's sake how did you get this one?  :faint:

Everything is correct except of the year! It was built in 1961.  :thumbsup:
Title: Solved - NEH 3939: Auto Union 1000 S special by Johannes Welsch - 1962
Post by: Carnut on March 04, 2015, 07:32:14 AM
What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

Remember - solving puzzles using 'Google Search by Image' is BANNED on AutoPuzzles!
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on March 18, 2015, 06:28:39 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: richard cuyler on March 20, 2015, 10:17:03 AM
Lancia?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on March 20, 2015, 10:48:52 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on March 20, 2015, 10:17:03 AM
Lancia?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: kwgibbs on March 22, 2015, 11:36:58 AM
Innocenti?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on March 22, 2015, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on March 22, 2015, 11:36:58 AM
Innocenti?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: datsone on March 22, 2015, 01:08:08 PM
Fiat?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: kwgibbs on March 22, 2015, 01:15:24 PM
siata?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on March 23, 2015, 06:48:00 AM
Neither Fiat nor Siata.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: datsone on March 23, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Fiberglass body on a production car?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on March 23, 2015, 02:59:29 PM
Quote from: datsone on March 23, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Fiberglass body on a production car?

It's probably fiberglass (or maybe aluminium, I don't know for sure), though I would phrase it "based on a production car".
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 05:29:23 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 06:09:22 AM
DKW base?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Wendax on April 15, 2015, 06:14:49 AM
Carina?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 06:33:01 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 15, 2015, 06:14:49 AM
Carina?

No..

Quote from: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 06:09:22 AM
DKW base?

Almost!
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 06:48:10 AM
Auto Union base car ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 15, 2015, 07:08:22 AM
Special by Kaiserslautern Meisterschule ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 07:44:46 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 06:48:10 AM
Auto Union base car ?

Yes..

Quote from: SACO on April 15, 2015, 07:08:22 AM
Special by Kaiserslautern Meisterschule ?

..and No.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Swiss builder?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 15, 2015, 08:30:53 AM
From Bresil ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 15, 2015, 08:24:20 AM
Swiss builder?

No..

Quote from: SACO on April 15, 2015, 08:30:53 AM
From Bresil ?

..and No!
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: oko94 on April 15, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
German coachbuilder ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 11:23:54 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 15, 2015, 11:16:04 AM
German coachbuilder ?

German but not a known coachbuilder..
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Wendax on April 15, 2015, 01:58:15 PM
Private one-off or obscure coachbuilder?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 02:01:27 PM
Quote from: Wendax on April 15, 2015, 01:58:15 PM
Private one-off or obscure coachbuilder?

Private one-off!
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 15, 2015, 04:39:25 PM
DKW by Welch ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 15, 2015, 05:59:15 PM
Quote from: SACO on April 15, 2015, 04:39:25 PM
DKW by Welch ?

You're on to something there, so I'll lock it for you to be a bit more specific.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 16, 2015, 01:45:40 AM
DKW 1000 by Günter Welsch (from Mayen ) 1959 ?
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 16, 2015, 04:35:51 AM
Quote from: SACO on April 16, 2015, 01:45:40 AM
DKW 1000 by Günter Welsch (from Mayen ) 1959 ?

It's already been established by nicanary that the base was Auto Union rather than DKW, and the 1000 is right so it's an Auto Union 1000 SP Special.
The builder's surname was indeed Welsch and he was from Mayen in Germany, although I had the build date as slightly later.
So all we need now is his correct forename (not Günter).
Still locked for SACO.
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 16, 2015, 07:23:45 AM
DKW 1000 by Kurt Welsch from Mayen in Germany ,1961 ! :P
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 16, 2015, 07:28:49 AM
Quote from: SACO on April 16, 2015, 07:23:45 AM
DKW 1000 by Kurt Welsch from Mayen in Germany ,1961 ! :P

As mentioned it's an Auto Union rather than a DKW, so the car's base is already established.
Just the builder's forename to get; not Kurt!
Still locked for you..
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: SACO on April 16, 2015, 10:18:03 AM
Perhaps Johann Welsch !!!
Title: Re: NEH 3939
Post by: Carnut on April 16, 2015, 11:13:50 AM
All right, I'll accept that (Johannes according to the picture below, who was most probably Johann's grandson!)
Well done.

I had no idea there was a Karrosserie behind it; I understood it to be a home-build.  I thought it looked quite professional though so I'm not entirely surprised.  Sorry to have misled you Wendax.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3939: Auto Union 1000 S special by Johannes Welsch - 1962
Post by: Wendax on April 16, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
It was the masterpiece of Johannes Welsch.
And it is also a repost: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9061  :(
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3939: Auto Union 1000 S special by Johannes Welsch - 1962
Post by: Carnut on April 17, 2015, 05:45:46 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 16, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
It was the masterpiece of Johannes Welsch.
And it is also a repost: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9061  :(

Thanks Wendax.
I've merged the puzzles but I really can't understand it; the only word I used for the Search was 'Welsch' so it really should have shown up..
Or maybe I also added Auto Union, which then would explain it as it was a DKW before...
Title: Re: Solved: 288. of All. - 1961 DKW Roadster by Karosserie J. Welsch
Post by: Wendax on February 15, 2019, 04:55:37 PM
A better picture:
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