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It looks like a mixture of such design highlights as Morris Marina or Ford Pinto.
Was it planned for a European subsidiary of one of the Big Three?
Quote from: Wendax on November 02, 2012, 08:12:26 AM
It looks like a mixture of such design highlights as Morris Marina or Ford Pinto.
Was it planned for a European subsidiary of one of the Big Three?
No.
An attempt to 'embiggen' the Ford Fiesta platform for the North American market?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 12:20:31 PM
An attempt to 'embiggen' the Ford Fiesta platform for the North American market?
I admit it has a certain Fiesta resemblance, but it has nothing to do with Ford.
Any Hillman DNA?
No, wrong track.
Audi 80/Fox?
Was this an NSU/Audi project that was co-opted by VW, later to become the Dasher?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Was this an NSU/Audi project that was co-opted by VW, later to become the Dasher?
No, as far as I recall the story went different...
For more accurate info I've to check my source at home. I'll get back to you tomorow.
Quote from: Allemano on November 04, 2012, 05:24:36 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Was this an NSU/Audi project that was co-opted by VW, later to become the Dasher?
No, as far as I recall the story went different...
For more accurate info I've to check my source at home. I'll get back to you tomorow.
Tomorrow never comes...
Thanks Mr. Carnut to help Otto to remind me... ;)
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 02, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
Was this an NSU/Audi project that was co-opted by VW, later to become the Dasher?
There's actually no production car that emerged from that project. My source doesn't mention any VW involvement either.
Is it as simple as a rejected design for the Audi 80?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 12, 2012, 11:33:20 AM
Is it as simple as a rejected design for the Audi 80?
No. It IS a rejected project though.
Wasn't Audi considering a joint venture with MB before they got in bed with VW?
yes, but this is an Audi solo project.
Was it meant to slot below the 80?
The Audi 80 wasn't born when this project was abandoned.
Was it supposed to have a Wankel engine?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 12, 2012, 11:56:39 AM
Was it supposed to have a Wankel engine?
Sorry for the late reply. The possible engine wasn't in the focus here.
So it is an Audi project of the late sixties?
Was it meant to employ all-wheel-drive?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 13, 2012, 08:07:23 AM
Was it meant to employ all-wheel-drive?
No, it was many years before Piëch took the lead..
Is there something special about what the body shell is made from?
Is this a prototype for the first-generation Audi 100 Coupe S, as the front wings/fenders seem to be pure Audi 100?
Quote from: Djetset on November 13, 2012, 09:44:22 AM
Is this a prototype for the first-generation Audi 100 Coupe S, as the front wings/fenders seem to be pure Audi 100?
No.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 13, 2012, 09:18:33 AM
Is there something special about what the body shell is made from?
No.
I told you this car isn't a predecessor of any production model Audi has built.
It's more a project of what might have be.
I'll post more pics later.
Designed by an outsider?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on November 13, 2012, 10:39:01 AM
Designed by an outsider?
No, quite the opposite. ;)
A rendering:
Renault 15 goes Ingolstadt :lmao:
Quote from: Wendax on November 13, 2012, 12:52:05 PM
Renault 15 goes Ingolstadt :lmao:
If you could see all the other sketches... ;D
Quote from: Wendax on November 13, 2012, 08:06:11 AM
So it is an Audi project of the late sixties?
Sorry, I didn't notice your reply. It's from the very early 70s.
Was this an Audi project for a small entry model (pre- Audi 50) to replace the full rear-engined NSU range (Prinz, 1000C, TT, etc.)?
Quote from: Djetset on February 11, 2013, 03:24:22 PM
Was this an Audi project for a small entry model (pre- Audi 50) to replace the full rear-engined NSU range (Prinz, 1000C, TT, etc.)?
As mentioned before it wasn't related to any of the later Audi production cars. It was more a design exercise of a possible future car that wasn't ever built..
One of the designers might have been Mr. Dienst, Angerhöfer or Schulze (sorry for the listing) - just answer if it was one of them, by chance...
I don't know why I didn't reply.. :-\
I'll check my book when I'm at home. After five months I'm sure you can wait a few days longer.. ;D
Two weeks later... ;)
I can't find a bit of a possible storyline that could be hiding behind this picture. Could it be a project for the first non DKW-based Audi, dropped in favour of the 100?
Quote from: grobmotorix on February 25, 2013, 12:28:32 PM
One of the designers might have been Mr. Dienst, Angerhöfer or Schulze (sorry for the listing) - just answer if it was one of them, by chance...
Surprise! Surprise! It's none of them mentioned in that source. Maybe the name "Helmut Warkuß" rings any bells?
Helmut or Hartmut? Hartmut Warkuß started in 1969 at Audi NSU.
Quote from: grobmotorix on August 16, 2013, 03:55:55 AM
Helmut or Hartmut? Hartmut Warkuß started in 1969 at Audi NSU.
:bag:
Of course it must be "Hartmut"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PbALX6Fh8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9PbALX6Fh8)
Was the vehicle ever exhibited publicly?
Quote from: faksta on August 14, 2013, 05:06:55 AM
I can't find a bit of a possible storyline that could be hiding behind this picture. Could it be a project for the first non DKW-based Audi, dropped in favour of the 100?
No. It was a smaller car than the '100'. As mentioned before it's not related to any other Audi production car. It has neither predecessor nor successor. It was more about which way Audi generally wanted to go in the early 70s. This was one of the abandoned projects.
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 17, 2013, 03:51:31 AM
Was the vehicle ever exhibited publicly?
Not that I know. :-\
Not a big clue I know, but I stumbled on it in a book I purchased after one of Quiller's puzzles was solved. His puzzle car is also featured there. ;)
I don't have access to the book, but perhaps somebody else does. Is the book Audi Design: Automobildesign von 1965 bis zur Gegenwart?
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on August 17, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
I don't have access to the book, but perhaps somebody else does. Is the book Audi Design: Automobildesign von 1965 bis zur Gegenwart?
Exactly! :)
A project of a rear wheel drive car?
As it is pictured in the design studio, is the vehicle pictured actually made mostly of clay?
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on August 17, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
As it is pictured in the design studio, is the vehicle pictured actually made mostly of clay?
I think it remained a clay mock-up.
Quote from: faksta on August 17, 2013, 10:21:13 AM
A project of a rear wheel drive car?
I've to check, but think it was about to have FWD.
Nobody has tried this yet, but was it a plan to resurrect an old brand name, like Wanderer?
Quote from: nicanary on August 24, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
Nobody has tried this yet, but was it a plan to resurrect an old brand name, like Wanderer?
It's not about to re-launch a defunkt brand..
The correct answer is an Audi project code.
Audi X 838/1 from around 1970
:bump: :)
Got new books?
Correct answer, another point for Wendax.
At 7,43 € (postage included) I couldn't resist. ;D