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Title: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: Allemano on February 28, 2015, 06:40:14 AM
I guess this won't be for long in the rookies, but we shall see...

One point if you can tell me what it is..
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 02, 2015, 06:24:09 AM
a quick move upwards...
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: wingroad on March 02, 2015, 12:06:23 PM
American ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 02, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
Partly.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: wingroad on March 02, 2015, 12:22:19 PM
So its an American owned company with a European subsiduary
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 02, 2015, 12:25:05 PM
No it's a bit more complicated I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: wingroad on March 02, 2015, 03:21:20 PM
Designed by an American ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2015, 02:20:53 PM
I don't know the designer who sketched this car, but the company is not American.

Sorry for the late reply!
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: wingroad on March 08, 2015, 04:26:36 PM
Japanese ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 08, 2015, 05:26:32 PM
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 02:16:41 AM
Pro's have a go!
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2015, 02:40:39 AM
Nothing to do with Cadillac then?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 02:53:31 AM
Nothing to do with Cadillac then?
Not with Cadillac.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: 4popoid on March 12, 2015, 03:04:28 AM
A Daewoo (GM owned) designed and manufactured from a Chevrolet concept?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 03:08:06 AM
A Daewoo (GM owned) designed and manufactured from a Chevrolet concept?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 12, 2015, 03:18:39 AM
AMC/Eagle related ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 03:24:05 AM
AMC/Eagle related ?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2015, 04:28:12 AM
Those look like Oldsmobile taillights.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 04:56:13 AM
Those look like Oldsmobile taillights.
Not Oldsmobile, but as close as Cadillac and Chevrolet..
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 12, 2015, 04:59:54 AM
Pontiac ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 05:07:51 AM
Pontiac ?
So far so good!
There are still a lot of puzzle pieces missing, so, I'm not going to lock it, yet. ;)
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2015, 01:13:21 PM
D'oh! Why did I think Oldsmobile?  :doh:

Those taillights are much like those of the last-gen Bonneville. As Pontiac was selling "Le Mans" that was a re-badged Daewoo-built Opel for some time, is this an attempt to move to a purpose-designed follow-up Le Mans?.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
No. I know what it was about to be, but can't say which bits belong to that company and which came from the other. It's a stillborn project which was shelved because of changing circumstances. You tell me which companies were involved and why it ended before finishing.

One company is already disclosed.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
Is there an Australian connection?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2015, 05:38:37 PM
Is there an Australian connection?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: wingroad on March 12, 2015, 07:40:48 PM
Saturn ?/Opel
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 13, 2015, 01:02:24 AM
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 13, 2015, 04:16:37 AM
Connection with a European brand, like Lotus ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: 4popoid on March 13, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Was a Chinese company involved?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 13, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
Connection with a European brand, like Lotus.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 13, 2015, 08:31:04 PM
Was a Chinese company involved?
No.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 14, 2015, 05:15:27 AM
I'm guessing FIAT.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 14, 2015, 05:17:22 AM
Opel has already been ruled out, so maybe Vauxhall ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2015, 12:55:23 PM
Opel has already been ruled out, so maybe Vauxhall ?
not another GM company.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 14, 2015, 12:56:45 PM
So maybe a coachbuilder, like Pininfarina ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2015, 12:57:13 PM
I'm guessing FIAT.
not FIAT, but other involved companies come from the same country.
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
So maybe a coachbuilder, like Pininfarina ?
not exactly a coachbuilder, but it's getting closer
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Wendax on March 14, 2015, 01:31:06 PM
IDEA institute?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 14, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: oko94 on March 16, 2015, 03:52:42 AM
So there's another Italian company involved ? Maybe Coggiola ?
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 16, 2015, 05:19:37 AM
Was that a possible new model for Alfa Romeo to be built with Pontiac? (oh my...)
Title: Re: Allemano's new series #05
Post by: Allemano on March 16, 2015, 11:46:48 AM
Was that a possible new model for Alfa Romeo to be built with Pontiac? (oh my...)

Yes it is!!!
It was a cancelled after Ford showed interest to buy Alfa Romeo. I.DE.A. provided the design, but my source doesn't report which parts were done by AR or Pontiac.

Another point for you!
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 16, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing. Oh..those magazines..... :D
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: als15 on March 18, 2015, 04:39:34 AM
The chassis was Alfa Romeo 164. IDEA did styling and body.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: Allemano on March 18, 2015, 12:37:00 PM
The chassis was Alfa Romeo 164. IDEA did styling and body.
...and what was Pontiac's part?
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: als15 on March 19, 2015, 05:10:23 AM
I believe almost none. The study was aimed to develop an Alfa 164-based Pontiac, as far as I know. It should have been just branded as a Pontiac.
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: DHoffmann on April 20, 2015, 08:53:04 PM
And it had a name....

(For search results, it's called Portello. Named after the first Alfa factory.)
Title: Re: Solved: Allemano's new series #05 - Alfa Romeo & Pontiac project designed by I.DE.A. Institute
Post by: Allemano on April 23, 2015, 04:52:31 AM
Great post!