This is was a serious design proposal for a car that sadly never got built.
So, for a point, what is this car?
Racing along to the Experts...
Did the company that made this proposal build other cars?
Quote from: el_monty on June 24, 2015, 08:00:44 AM
Did the company that made this proposal build other cars?
Yes.
Allard?
British?
British, but not an Allard proposal.
Caparo? But that one was actually built
Early 90s?
Up to the Pros.
Are those meant to be hubless wheels?
Quote from: el_monty on August 02, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
Are those meant to be hubless wheels?
No, not as far as I know (so it's not a Sbarro project, to save you another guess! ;)
Was an F1 team involved ?
BRM?
Made by a company known for other cars ?
By the way, will you move "Djetset 681" to the pros some day ?
*bump*
Aston Martin?
Lotus involved?
Quote from: oko94 on August 03, 2015, 06:18:51 AM
Made by a company known for other cars ?
Yes, but it's not Aston Martin or Lotus.
Lola ?
Is this company specialized in race cars ?
Rover?
Kit car company ?
No to Rover, but yes to a kit car company ;)
Ultima ?
UVA ?
Siva ?
Kit car company specialized in sportscars ?
Ginetta ?
Did this company also build replicas ?
Is the company name an acronym or a proper word ?
Quote from: oko94 on August 08, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
Is the company name an acronym or a proper word ?
Both (that's a big clue ;)
BRA? 8)
TEAL ?
Not BRA or Teal
Triple C ?
Gotta be Marcos
Tiger?
Prova ?
None of the above.
Dax
Did this company make Countach replicas ?
Elva?
Piper?
Did this company make Cobra replicas ?
RAM ?
RAM Cobra's chassis was designed by Adrian Reynard, maybe he was also involved with the puzzle car ?
Quote from: oko94 on August 10, 2015, 03:13:47 AM
RAM ?
RAM Cobra's chassis was designed by Adrian Reynard, maybe he was also involved with the puzzle car ?
Sorry, but not RAM.
Pilgrim ?
ERA?
GD?
Quote from: Carnut on August 10, 2015, 07:31:23 AM
GD?
Yes at last, it is Gardner Douglas (GD). So now locked to you for 48 hours for more information about this proposal.
Quote from: Djetset on August 10, 2015, 07:36:39 AM
Quote from: Carnut on August 10, 2015, 07:31:23 AM
GD?
Yes at last, it is Gardner Douglas (GD). So now locked to you for 48 hours for more information about this proposal.
Thanks Djetset.
I wasn't getting anywhere so contacted Gardner Douglas themselves to see what information they have.
This was their reply:
QUOTE
Hi Norman,
Not something we have knowledge of, maybe someone had sketched the design with that intention.
Kind regards,
Andy Burrows
UNQUOTE
If GD themselves don't know anything about it I'm not confident of my chances of finding anything, but I'll keep searching until my 48 hours are up...!
But is the answer out there on the interweb?!
Isn't that the ultimate puzzle, a car whose creator has never heard of ?
Ha Ha, knowing what a resourceful chap you are Carnut, I had a feeling you might contact GD directly. I'm not surprised that no body there knew of this car, as I mentioned this design concept to them some time back, and they were blissfully unaware of it, as it was a proposal by an employee that left the firm many years ago.
As you still have 24 hours left of your lock, I will make this easier for you Carnut and just ask (guess) the proposed model name to complete the puzzle. The name's clue is in the car's design.
Thanks!
The plot thickens..
How about "Wedge"?
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 09:24:17 AM
Thanks!
The plot thickens..
How about "Wedge"?
Not Wedge.
Le Mans?
Named after a race-track? Monza?
Named after a race then? Daytona?
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 11:53:46 AM
Named after a race then? Daytona?
No, on the wrong track as not named after a circuit.
More like Mille Miglia then?
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 01:43:24 PM
More like Mille Miglia then?
No, more a form of motor sport ;)
Rally Cross ?
Quote from: wingroad on August 11, 2015, 02:33:48 PM
Rally Cross ?
Sorry, still locked to Carnut until tomorrow, but does the styling of this proposal really suggest rally cross?!
Can-Am?
Grand Prix (not that it looks much like a GP car...)?
Or Group C perhaps?
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Grand Prix (not that it looks much like a GP car...)?
Getting much much warmer...
Formula One (it doesn't look much like an F1 car either!)?
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Formula One (it doesn't look much like an F1 car either!)?
It may not look like an F1, but that's what this proposal was called, so well done, another point to you.
I'll post more details and another image later today.
Quote from: Djetset on August 12, 2015, 03:54:13 AM
Quote from: Carnut on August 11, 2015, 04:04:54 PM
Formula One (it doesn't look much like an F1 car either!)?
It may not look like an F1, but that's what this proposal was called, so well done, another point to you.
I'll post more details and another image later today.
I think Bernie Ecclestone would have had his lawyers on the case if this had gone ahead. Pretty sure he's got the name "Formula One" under copyright. And "Grand Prix" - that's why these days nobody can hold any race and call it a grand prix even though it's just a French phrase.
Quote from: nicanary on August 12, 2015, 07:58:38 AM
I think Bernie Ecclestone would have had his lawyers on the case if this had gone ahead. Pretty sure he's got the name "Formula One" under copyright. And "Grand Prix" - that's why these days nobody can hold any race and call it a grand prix even though it's just a French phrase.
That's why they chose F1 I guess, as McLaren in the same period.
More info and another image of this still-borne GD F1 proposal. The car was conceived by Melvyn Gardner, a co-founder of Gardner Douglas, in the early 1990s. The F1 remained purely a dream on paper, with no models made. It's a shame, as it was a great looking machine.
Thanks Djetset. Fascinating. So he beat McLaren to the name by a couple of years!
Thanks for the point.