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Title: SOLVED: Djetset #300 - Prospect Four aircraft, designed to carry the BMC Mini and its passengers
Post by: Djetset on January 18, 2010, 03:54:17 PM
No, you haven't tuned into AeroPuzzles by mistake, this is AutoPuzzles, with a rather unusual one for my 300th mystery (only 1,200 more to go to follow Otto's amazing tally; well done Otto :)).

There is a car connection here (otherwise I wouldn't have posted an aircraft puzzle!) so for a point, please tell me what this is, ideally including which car is connected to this plane.

A better photo will be added once this one has been solved.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 29, 2010, 01:52:46 PM
Get ready for take off Experts.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: guido66 on January 29, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
Does it share it's engine with a car?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on February 01, 2010, 08:47:03 AM
No.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on February 05, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
Pros, something for the weekend for you, as I fear this one may stay grounded for too long with the Experts.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Arunas on February 05, 2010, 05:18:27 PM
Is it Havilland?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on February 06, 2010, 06:32:01 AM
I'm no aviation expert, but a colleague of mine who is assures me that this aircraft was produced by at least two companies, but sadly de Havilland was not one of them.  This specific example though has a car connection.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Arunas on February 06, 2010, 06:46:42 AM
I have read that Franc Costin has worked/designed something for Havilland.

Is it British plane & car?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Allan L on February 06, 2010, 07:13:09 AM
I know some of you are working in a second language, but the names are de Havilland and Frank Costin please.
Both were English.
Frank Costin worked at de Havilland for a while, but at a pretty junior level.

The aeroplane looks as if it might be a preliminary study for the Richard Noble ARV Super2 (which became this)
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on February 06, 2010, 08:51:47 AM
No, it's not an ARV Super 2.  However, bizzarely there is a very remote link with Frank Costin and the car that is connected to this aircraft!  The car and aircraft are both British.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on April 06, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
As I've not been actively involved with AutoPuzzles for a couple of months, to mark my more regular return I am feeling generous, so I will now award one point to anyone that can correctly name the car connected with this aircraft (and ideally how and why), plus another point for anyone that can identify the aircraft itself.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: jotage21 on April 06, 2010, 10:10:58 AM
This is an airplane with the Porsche-designed aero engine?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on April 06, 2010, 10:13:18 AM
No, not that.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Allemano on April 06, 2010, 10:20:05 AM
Is it a real plane or only a drawing? (In the René Magritte-sense it's not a real plane in both cases, but let's ignore that for a while.. ;D )
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on April 06, 2010, 10:36:44 AM
The illustration is just a drawing, but I am told by a reliable aviation source that at least one real aircraft was made.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on December 04, 2010, 06:23:34 AM
This flight has been delayed for too long, so it will be flying into the Black Hole very shortly. :-\
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Allan L on December 04, 2010, 09:34:15 AM
I feel I should know something about this, but my field of aviation is rather larger aeroplanes. It looks about right as a contemporary of the ARV I suggested 10 months ago. Is that date (mid 1980s) right or are we looking at something older but forward-looking?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on December 04, 2010, 09:39:15 AM
Much more forward-looking Allan, as this aircraft is from the early 1960s.

As a strong clue, the car associated with this aircraft was big news and gaining an increasing following in the early 1960s.  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: DynaMike on December 04, 2010, 12:28:17 PM
Any relation to the Mini, then ?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on December 04, 2010, 12:32:15 PM
Perhaps that clue was rather too strong!  Yes, it is related to the Mini, so a point to you for identifying the right car.  Any ideas how it is related though?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on March 22, 2011, 07:41:53 PM
This one will finally be flying into the Black Hole as it's been waiting on the runway for far too long now, so any more ideas?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on March 24, 2011, 03:19:55 PM
Now coming into land at the Black Hole!
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 18, 2011, 11:36:00 AM
Any relation with Austin Aircraft?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on September 18, 2011, 11:49:13 AM
Not directly; no.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 21, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
Was the plane built by Auster/Beagle?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 24, 2015, 04:02:42 PM
Quote from: Majeko on January 21, 2015, 07:56:52 AM
Was the plane built by Auster/Beagle?
Thank you for reviving this one Majeko after being grounded for so long.  Sadly though it is not an aircraft built by Auster/Beagle.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
Is the link between the aircraft and the Mini a person or a company?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 24, 2015, 04:38:17 PM
Quote from: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:29:42 PM
Is the link between the aircraft and the Mini a person or a company?
Hmm, a tricky one to answer, as it is neither of these really.  Sorry I can't be more clear.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:47:39 PM
OK. So the link isn't the engine nor the designers of the Mini. Nor any company involved with the two. Not much left to work with. Do they have the same wheels?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 24, 2015, 04:50:50 PM
Quote from: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:47:39 PM
OK. So the link isn't the engine nor the designers of the Mini. Nor any company involved with the two. Not much left to work with. Do they have the same wheels?
Sorry, but this is a tough one I think!  They don't have a same wheels, but they do have a connection!  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
Built in the same place?
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on January 24, 2015, 04:57:44 PM
Quote from: Majeko on January 24, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
Built in the same place?
No, not that.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 30, 2015, 03:31:38 PM
I had to search a long time for this one. But I found it: it's a Prospector Four, designed to carry a Mini inside the fuselage.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Tom_I on January 30, 2015, 05:34:16 PM
Wow! A result after four years. Well done!

Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 31, 2015, 06:23:54 AM
I have a feeling that the Edgar Percival E.P.9/Lancashire Aircraft EP-9 Prospector was the predecessor of the Prospector Four.
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Majeko on January 31, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on January 30, 2015, 05:34:16 PM
Wow! A result after four years. Well done!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Djetset #300 Special Edition
Post by: Djetset on February 01, 2015, 02:29:52 PM
Hey Hey!  Bravo Majeko, at last after 5 years, this one has finally landed.  Well done, and 2 very well deserved points to you.  :applause:

I am amazed this puzzle lasted for 5 years, as information about this aircraft, and its Mini connection, can be found on a number of websites and Mini books.  Basically the aircraft's passengers sat in the Mini, which was loaded into the Prospect through the opening rear end.

Well done again - and thanks for the extra photo Tom I, which saves me now having to post the same image.  I now have just 40 other Black Hole puzzles to be solved. Good luck!:D