This car has actually appeared on AP before I have learnt, so what I want now is not just what it is but whoever can post a picture of what the same car looked like at a later stage in its life will get the point. Good hunting!
ANYONE FOUND GIVING ANSWERS OBTAINED BY USING GOOGLE SEARCH BY IMAGE MAY BE BANNED FOR AN INDETERMINATE PERIOD!
Tis a repost - I even used the same picture!
Another to leave for the Rookies and Experts I think.
Thanks Allan.
It's quite an old one so what I'll do is leave it up but change what I want a little to provide a tester!
See the original question, now altered.
Experts?
It's the Drin Drin Testadoro, built by Luigi Giusti on a Gilco chassis with Fiat 500A engine.
Quote from: Carnut on August 27, 2013, 07:14:11 AM
...a picture of what the same car looked like at a later stage in its life will get the point.
I'm not sure at all... but maybe this one?
You've certainly identified the right car.
But as far as the picture of the car at a later stage of its life is concerned, I don't think that's correct. The picture you have posted is certainly another Giusti Drin Drin, but I believe that is a different, newer, car - a Drin Drin Mk 2 if you like.
So you still need to come up with a picture of the Mk 1 car with its later body..
Quote from: Carnut on September 06, 2013, 05:11:42 AM
You've certainly identified the right car.
But as far as the picture of the car at a later stage of its life is concerned, I don't think that's correct. The picture you have posted is certainly another Giusti Drin Drin, but I believe that is a different, newer, car - a Drin Drin Mk 2 if you like.
So you still need to come up with a picture of the Mk 1 car with its later body..
I've not found any picture of the car with a later body, only a picture in Sannia's book with the same body but painted white...
:-\
Was the second body also made by Zagato?
Quote from: ropat53 on September 10, 2013, 12:34:20 PM
Was the second body also made by Zagato?
I believe it was, yes.
Professionals?
Casa dell'Auto Giusti Testadoro at the Circuito di Varese in 1947
EDIT: Ok, Ok...I'll take more time in the future... :P
Here's what I know about:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4143.msg48607#msg48607
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2013, 09:38:40 AM
Casa dell'Auto Giusti Testadoro at the Circuito di Varese in 1947
EDIT: Ok, Ok...I'll take more time in the future... :P
Here's what I know about:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=4143.msg48607#msg48607
I have a photo of what it says is this car with a replacement body; I have no real proof that it is actually what it says it is because it is quite familiar-looking but on the other hand it may be quite likely.
There's a Zagato bodied Barchetta at pag 74 of this book:
I'll upload it but I doubt it's that.
(here's a similar pic)
I see 2 Zagato cars there!
Can you be more specific?
Locked for PJ!
Sorry, I meant the 750 Barchetta, that was later developed in a small serie.
There's a pic in that book but it should be the same car as this one.
That's not the car in the pic I have.
But you're close so I'll keep it locked for you to have another go.
I checked Marchianò's book and the car pictured there is the same barchetta of my previous pic.
Here's a fuzzy pic of a similar car:
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I can only guess you found a Panoramica bodied car that should be the Drin-Drin, then?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2013, 03:32:23 AM
I can only guess you found a Panoramica bodied car that should be the Drin-Drin, then?
Exactly!
See if you can find it..
(still locked)
Ok, thank you for your generosity.
I found an article about Panoramica cars by Zagato: there are 13 cars pictured there and the article lists all the ones that received that body.
According to the article, the Panoramica design was used for a Fiat 500b tuned by Facetti (that raced with #67) and a Fiat 500c with a Testadoro engine, nicknamed 'Scansina' with #623.
The Scansina is quite known and I doubt it was never reported that it was the old Drin-Drin, but it's the only guess I can think of.
...and here's another Panoramica by Zagato:
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You can unlock, then, I'm afraid I'm running out of time!
All my images of this puzzle are on my computer at work and I've been on holiday since the week before last. So in view of what you have now posted I've tracked down my source and taken another look at the picture that I'm asking for. Whilst it is a Zagato body and is very similar to the Panoramica it is actually not quite a Panoramica because the windows don't wrap into the roof.
So it's not the picture you've posted or any other of the Panoramicas in your book but a very similar - but conventional - body. Sorry if I've misled you there, but my memory failed me a bit when I didn't have the images to draw on.
I will keep it locked for you since I led you up the garden path a bit, to see if you can find the picture I'm looking for.
There's something I need to know: I have several pics of Zagato-bodied cars but no-one is said to be the old Drin-Drin.
Is the one you are looking for a particular model, a specific car you can recognize among others or a car widely known as something else but not in your source?
You can unlock, then, I'll be guessing without any proof.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 25, 2013, 02:33:07 PM
There's something I need to know: I have several pics of Zagato-bodied cars but no-one is said to be the old Drin-Drin.
Is the one you are looking for a particular model, a specific car you can recognize among others or a car widely known as something else but not in your source?
You can unlock, then, I'll be guessing without any proof.
There are quite a few pictures of very similar-looking cars on the net, although I haven't found one with exactly the same grille. The bottom half (below the waistline) looks almost the same as the coupé you posted but with a different grille, then the cabin is slightly different without the Panoramica-style windows. There is only one picture I have found which claims it is the pictured Testa d'Oro car re-bodied, and the claim is made by the owner of the car.
I hope that answers your question, or would you like me to name the cars I've found that look very similar? They all seem to be the same model.
thank you, I think It's fair to let others join the puzzle.
My next move will be take a scan of those Zagato cars that may be close to the one you are looking for and post them one by one untill I find the right one.
Quote from: Carnut on September 25, 2013, 03:22:51 PM
The bottom half (below the waistline) looks almost the same as the coupé you posted but with a different grille, then the cabin is slightly different without the Panoramica-style windows. There is only one picture I have found which claims it is the pictured Testa d'Oro car re-bodied, and the claim is made by the owner of the car.
I hope that answers your question, or would you like me to name the cars I've found that look very similar? They all seem to be the same model.
You mean the red one, not the BW, right?
Sorry, no I meant the coupe in the B&W picture.
Ok, from that article, Ruoteclassiche April 2003:
1st one is my guess.
No, they are all what I would call Panoramicas; the correct car has all-flat glass.
?
Much more similar, but the one I'm looking for has rounded wheelarches and a different front grille.
Although I was looking for a specific picture, that's not to say there aren't other pictures of the same car around, which would also be OK if it can be shown to be the rebodied Testa' d'Oro.
There was a 'regular' model with bodywork that looks just about the same.
This one ?
I'm going to photoshop the pictures I have ... ;D
Is the front grille smaller than the one in my last post? Let's say rounder and smaller?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 30, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
I'm going to photoshop the pictures I have ... ;D
Is the front grille smaller than the one in my last post? Let's say rounder and smaller?
Yes, it's a different shape entirely.
Going by the hole for it the grille looks almost round, although there is a grille lying on the floor beside it which doesn't look like it would fit the hole to me, being more rectangular with rounded corners and wider than it is high!
Perhaps it was going to be fitted behind the hole... :huh:
smaller than this?:
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 30, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
Perhaps it was going to be fitted behind the hole... :huh:
smaller than this?:
No, about the same size but a more rounded slightly egg-shaped one.
I would say the same as the one pictured in your reply #19, so it's very similar to that car but with different headlights and glasshouse.
Does it retain the wire wheels and the RHD?
Quote from: ropat53 on October 01, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
Does it retain the wire wheels and the RHD?
It's still RHD and believe it still has wire wheels, though in the photo it's wheel-less on axle stands.. There is a wire wheel next to it which looks like it belongs.
Black Hole-bound...
I have stumbled across a blog with the photo below, which looks like the photo you are describing (RHD, on axle stands, loose wire wheel, rounded grill, etc.), and is said to be a Zagato bodied Testa d´oro from the early 1950s. Is this the one you are looking for?
You certainly do seem to stumble across some good answers! Despite spending hours on websites researching all my puzzles I never ever stumble across any answers!
You've stumbled across the right one this time as that is the picture I was looking for. Said to be the same car as that in the puzzle picture but a few years further on.
So that's 2 points! Well done.
Should be "Topolino"... ;)