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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2015 => Topic started by: Carnut on January 19, 2015, 07:25:03 AM
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What's this, from when, who designed it and who built it - for 1 point?:
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Familiar after the recent Triumph quest - TR4B 6206VC, Michelotti's Zest concept circa 1962.
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Familiar after the recent Triumph quest - TR4B 6206VC, Michelotti's Zest concept circa 1962.
It's a Triumph of course, but this is the Zest:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11589.msg96453#msg96453
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Apparently 2 TR prototypes carried the same number plate and only 1 was the Zest exercise - conflicting details out there require a bit more research :)
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In-house product of Triumph's styling studio but still missing crucial details . . .
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In-house product of Triumph's styling studio but still missing crucial details . . .
Actually it wasn't an in-house design!
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Rats - think I'm high-centered! So backtrack to Michelotti design and Vignale build?
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Rats - think I'm high-centered! So backtrack to Michelotti design and Vignale build?
Michelotti did the pencil-work, yes, but Vignale were only involved at an early stage, not with the finished item..
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Experts then?
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I believe this is a modified version of the Michelotti designed Zest, by Karmann Ghia from about 1966?
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I believe this is a modified version of the Michelotti designed Zest, by Karmann Ghia from about 1966?
Yes, you're right, but by Karmann rather than Karmann Ghia...
Locked for you just to say what it was actually known as.
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According to my source, this model was designated "6206 VC (non popup)" dated December, 30, 1965. Being the predecessor of the TR6.
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According to my source, this model was designated "6206 VC (non popup)" dated December, 30, 1965. Being the predecessor of the TR6.
You're so very nearly there.
The site I got the picture from gives it a specific name though, which I am looking for for the point. I can't actually confirm that was its official name but the site does seem authoritative about it.
There is a clue in the answer you've given as there was an earlier prototype registered 6206 VC but with pop-up headlights.. One thing led to another..
I'll keep it locked for you to have one more go.
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Of the 3 sites on the web that I've found this automobile, they appear to call both the pop-up and non pop-up 6206 VC the ZEST II . One site, however, captions the photo as "L'ultima". Is that the designation you were looking for?
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Of the 3 sites on the web that I've found this automobile, they appear to call both the pop-up and non pop-up 6206 VC the ZEST II . One site, however, captions the photo as "L'ultima". Is that the designation you were looking for?
Yes it is!
The one without pop-up lights is said to be a modification of the original Zest II, but I believe it to be a completely different car as the Zest II with pop-up lights still exists (it was featured in a classic car mag a few years ago).
Neverthless the 1965 version without pop-up lights is said to have been a modification to suit the American market because it seems they were not keen on pop-up lights. Didn't they eventually outlaw them, leading to the many cars with them being replaced by models without them?
That's solved then and another point for you.
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The United States didn't really "outlaw" hidden headlamps . . . they just fell from favor as new technology allowed headlamps to assume sizes, shapes and configurations never possible with the old incandescent lights - which sometimes had to be hidden to conform to the stylists whims. That, and the added weight and complexity of the pop-up mechanisms finally did them in. They simply weren't necessary any more, as the headlamps could now be made part of the exterior styling of the front end no matter what the contours. Witness the C6 and now C7 Corvettes abandoning the feature, for example.
I wondered when someone would pick up on the "Zest II" appellation for the puzzle car. Sometimes the solution is pretty simple, but we don't see it. Another good puzzle.