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Title: Solved - NEH 3967: Panther Solo I prototype - 1984
Post by: Carnut on March 13, 2015, 10:28:37 AM
What's this, by whom, from when - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 14, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
1989-1990 Panther Solo
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Carnut on March 14, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
Quote from: Dowdeswell on March 14, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
1989-1990 Panther Solo

The 1989-90 Panther Solo is pictured below.
So I'll lock this for you to look into and have another stab as it is of course a Solo.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 14, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Korean Young C. Kim amend the Solo, 4 wheel drive, 2litre Cosworth engine.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Carnut on March 16, 2015, 06:43:12 AM
Quote from: Dowdeswell on March 14, 2015, 11:38:52 PM
Korean Young C. Kim amend the Solo, 4 wheel drive, 2litre Cosworth engine.

No!
One more go then I'll have to open it up again.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 16, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
South Korean original owner of Panther Young C. Kim made the decision to amend the Solo,because he saw the early MR2. New Design for the Solo was created by Ken Greenley. The body engineering designers were Martin Freestone (composites), Keith Hunter (underbody & structure), William "Bill" Davies (details) and Mert Wreford.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Carnut on March 16, 2015, 10:52:57 AM
Quote from: Dowdeswell on March 16, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
South Korean original owner of Panther Young C. Kim made the decision to amend the Solo,because he saw the early MR2. New Design for the Solo was created by Ken Greenley. The body engineering designers were Martin Freestone (composites), Keith Hunter (underbody & structure), William "Bill" Davies (details) and Mert Wreford.

The information is correct but doesn't refer to my puzzle car!
The Ken Greenley Solo is the one in my Reply #2 and the Ssanyong Solo is pictured below.
So the questions remains, what is my puzzle car?
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 17, 2015, 01:12:39 AM
I find some information about the Solo, include Panther Car Club......
Not Solo2, Y C. Kim, Ken Greenley... Is Solo1 or Solo Prototype ?
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Carnut on March 17, 2015, 05:07:02 AM
Quote from: Dowdeswell on March 17, 2015, 01:12:39 AM
I find some information about the Solo, include Panther Car Club......
Not Solo2, Y C. Kim, Ken Greenley... Is Solo1 or Solo Prototype ?

The info on the Panther Car Club site is not very good..
But you are right, it's the original Panther Solo prototype before it was comprehensively re-styled by Ken Greenley.  Personally I prefer the original..
But in my original post I asked for the date it was built so can you have a stab at that before I aware you your point and move this?!
Still locked for you.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 17, 2015, 06:09:13 AM
If it's prototype...... the 1984 Birmingham Motor Show.
Title: Re: NEH 3967
Post by: Carnut on March 17, 2015, 06:33:34 AM
Quote from: Dowdeswell on March 17, 2015, 06:09:13 AM
If it's prototype...... the 1984 Birmingham Motor Show.

That'll do!
This was one of those cars (like the AC 3000ME) with a very long gestation period, so by the time it was actually on sale the impact was lost.
Also the cost for what it was was way too high.  Almost no-one was going to pay the fancy price for a 4 cylinder car no matter how well it went.  It never ceases to amaze me how little some of the manufacturers of these kind of cars know about the psyche of their potential buyers.  I can't remember the price now but it was the equivalent of about £60/70000 today, and for that money buyers expect at the very least a V6 or a V8 engine;  Lotus made the same mistake with the Esprit and it never got the buyers such a car deserved then by the time it did get a V8 it was so stale nobody was really interested.  Jaguar made the same mistake as well with the XJ220; buyers in that stratospheric marketplace were never going to fork out a quarter of a million pounds for a puny little V6, no matter how fast it was!

But it's something the British motor industry management excelled at: not understanding how to market their cars properly!  To me it was perfectly obvious the Americans were never going to buy the Triumph TR7 for instance, with a puny little pea-shooter exhaust sticking out of the back and narrow steel wheels with plastic hub-caps; did they know absolutely nothing?!

Anyway, rant over and you get your point now!
Interesting car.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 3967: Panther Solo I prototype - 1984
Post by: Dowdeswell on March 17, 2015, 07:33:33 AM
Thank you for the introduction.