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Title: Solved - NEH 4011: Zafer Triumph 12/50 prototype to be built in Turkey
Post by: Carnut on April 07, 2015, 07:57:35 AM: Identify this car correctly and where it was built, for 1 point:

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Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Cars on April 08, 2015, 05:56:35 PM: Is this a Hillman? Or extending it further, is it part of the Rootes group?
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 08, 2015, 06:24:11 PM: Quote from: Cars on April 08, 2015, 05:56:35 PM
Is this a Hillman? Or extending it further, is it part of the Rootes group?

Nothing to do with the Rootes Group!
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Cars on April 08, 2015, 07:06:13 PM: Was it made in Europe?
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 09, 2015, 04:49:35 AM: Quote from: Cars on April 08, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
Was it made in Europe?

The particular car shown might have been but production was not intended to take place in Europe.
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: iani on April 10, 2015, 12:59:21 PM: Herald based?
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 10, 2015, 02:20:16 PM: Quote from: iani on April 10, 2015, 12:59:21 PM
Herald based?

Yes; I should have hidden those hub-caps!
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: iani on April 10, 2015, 03:04:30 PM: I've a dozen in my garage!
Israeli Autocars gilboa, the 13/60 4 door carmel?
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 10, 2015, 03:19:26 PM: Quote from: iani on April 10, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
I've a dozen in my garage!
Israeli Autocars gilboa, the 13/60 4 door carmel?

Hub-caps or Triumph Heralds?!
Not a Carmel and not Israeli - despite appearances!
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: iani on April 10, 2015, 04:06:06 PM: hubcaps, though there are enough spares for half another herald...

There were some Greek ones too on the same moulds, zafer 12/50?
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 10, 2015, 06:14:25 PM: Quote from: iani on April 10, 2015, 04:06:06 PM
hubcaps, though there are enough spares for half another herald...

There were some Greek ones too on the same moulds, zafer 12/50?

Zafer is right, but it's not Greek (don't forget the earlier statement that production was not intended to take place in Europe).
Locked for you to try again.
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: iani on April 11, 2015, 09:09:00 AM: Turkish!
Crikey, they built kitcars out of Heralds everywhere, even then!
Title: Re: NEH 4011
Post by: Carnut on April 11, 2015, 03:44:22 PM: Quote from: iani on April 11, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
Turkish!
Crikey, they built kitcars out of Heralds everywhere, even then!

Correct!
The plan was for TOE to build it in Kocaeli province in the Asian part of Turkey, but in fact only this one prototype was ever built and the project was canned. I have also seen it referred to as "Victory-Triumph" but I don't know if it was official or not. Another title was "Zafer Triumph 12/50".

Well done.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4011: Zafer Triumph 12/50 prototype to be built in Turkey
Post by: Wendax on April 11, 2015, 04:13:16 PM: The picture doesn't show "this" prototype. The background is the city of Haifa, where the Sabra was built. The picture was taken from this brochure:
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4011: Zafer Triumph 12/50 prototype to be built in Turkey
Post by: Bill Murray on April 11, 2015, 04:25:54 PM: Budget Restrictions.

Triumph figured most folks wouldn't know one port from another.

Bill
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4011: Zafer Triumph 12/50 prototype to be built in Turkey
Post by: Carnut on April 12, 2015, 06:44:16 PM: Quote from: Wendax on April 11, 2015, 04:13:16 PM
The picture doesn't show "this" prototype. The background is the city of Haifa, where the Sabra was built. The picture was taken from this brochure:

Quite so.
That particular could have been built in any one of number of places; perhaps in Staffordshire, England!