What's this car, for 1 point?:
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Experts?
Porsche based?
Is it based on a German car?
Is it made on a European car?
French?
Italian?
Any connection with Fiat and/or Abarth?
Is it of the Fiat Abarth 1000 family?
Quote from: AlexFrance on July 10, 2015, 07:17:14 AM
Is it of the Fiat Abarth 1000 family?
Yes, so let's give you a lock until your next reply to see if you can find it exactly.
Please unlock as I wasn't able to find that car.
Actually, I think I just found some new info on that car.
Apparently it's a Simca Abarth 1450 Spider Sport from 1962. It raced in the 1000 kilometers of Paris on the Monthléry racetrack.
Quote from: AlexFrance on July 12, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
Actually, I think I just found some new info on that car.
Apparently it's a Simca Abarth 1450 Spider Sport from 1962. It raced in the 1000 kilometers of Paris on the Monthléry racetrack.
That's actually a bit different from what I have it as, though I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong! It's the usual Internet confusion so I'll have to check out the right answer and come back!
I've looked into this and I've found several Simca Abarth pictures with similar (and different...) descriptions to what you have said.
But I've also found quite a few with the car as what I have it as.
I can only conclude that they used very similar bodywork for both Fiat and Simca Abarths of the period; as yet I'm not convinced which car my puzzle photo is of, although it was For Sale at a well-known and respected classic car dealer, which is where I got the picture and description from. I wouldn't expect them to be describing it as the wrong car..
I'll have to check in my Abarth books when I'm home this evening but in the meantime this is locked for you; maybe you can come up with the description I have too, then you've covered all the angles?
I'm fairly sure it's a Fiat Abarth rather than a Simca Abarth but let's see if I can resolve it tonight.
Here's an Abarth Simca 1300, though it might have a 1450 cc engine..:
Quote from: Carnut on July 13, 2015, 05:04:18 AM
Quote from: AlexFrance on July 12, 2015, 05:27:59 PM
Actually, I think I just found some new info on that car.
Apparently it's a Simca Abarth 1450 Spider Sport from 1962. It raced in the 1000 kilometers of Paris on the Monthléry racetrack.
That's actually a bit different from what I have it as, though I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong! It's the usual Internet confusion so I'll have to check out the right answer and come back!
I PMed you a link to an article online.
I've checked further into this.
It's not an Abarth Simca but it is a Fiat Abarth.
Locked for you to dig into further.
Quote from: Carnut on July 13, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
I've checked further into this.
It's not an Abarth Simca but it is a Fiat Abarth.
Locked for you to dig into further.
Any luck Alex?
Shall I open this up again?
Open to all again.
Is it the Abarth 1000 SP that ran at 1969 Le Mans 24 hours?
Quote from: frederick59 on July 29, 2015, 11:49:05 AM
Is it the Abarth 1000 SP that ran at 1969 Le Mans 24 hours?
It was built for Le Mans, but not in 1969.
Name is slightly different.. (Abarth 1000 ** ***** ********)
Seems the Pro's are going to have to sort this one out then!
Abarth 1000 MC Sport Tubolare from 1962
This name will fit your clue (Abarth 1000 ** ***** ********) and I found this name in my index.
Checking the source, (Abarth Catalogue Raissonnee), it appears to be this one, the MC:
Googling that name, I think I found your source, but I still think the MC is different.
The puzzle car should be called 1000 Spider Sport, or Spider Tubolare, and had engines from 700 to 1000cc.
That is the name I was looking for, yes. It was For Sale and that's how it was described and was built for Le Mans. You'd think the seller would know what it was..
I dug a bit of information out about the car built for Le Mans which is reproduced below; I assume this is the same car but a lot of these names have been attributed down the years rather than by Abarth when the car was first made, I think. You'll note that in neither article do they actually mention a name for the car!
You seem to be right that the MC Sport Tubolare is a different car so I'll try to give it the correct name in the heading!
I think this is probably the same car but with some later body modifications.
Here's the original puzzle picture: