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Title: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Carnut on July 07, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
What's this car and where was it built - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 21, 2015, 05:27:37 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: frederick59 on July 21, 2015, 12:33:45 PM
Russian car?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 21, 2015, 03:17:50 PM
Quote from: frederick59 on July 21, 2015, 12:33:45 PM
Russian car?

Yes!
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: wingroad on July 21, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Moskvich?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: mymokke on July 21, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
Those look like the hub caps from my old Ford Cousul (1955).
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 22, 2015, 04:13:10 AM
Quote from: mymokke on July 21, 2015, 10:00:27 PM
Those look like the hub caps from my old Ford Cousul (1955).

It's unlikely they stretch back that far but they probably did come from something else!
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 22, 2015, 04:13:29 AM
Quote from: wingroad on July 21, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
Moskvich?

Not one of those..
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: frederick59 on July 22, 2015, 04:13:50 AM
IZH?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 22, 2015, 04:17:08 AM
Quote from: frederick59 on July 22, 2015, 04:13:50 AM
IZH?

No.
Not one of the major makers.
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: mymokke on July 24, 2015, 11:12:21 PM
Russian?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 25, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
Quote from: mymokke on July 24, 2015, 11:12:21 PM
Russian?

See Reply#3!
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: richard cuyler on July 27, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
I can't find this machine anywhere! Clutching at rusty Volgas: Is it a Pobeda?
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 27, 2015, 11:50:45 AM
Quote from: richard cuyler on July 27, 2015, 08:31:57 AM
I can't find this machine anywhere! Clutching at rusty Volgas: Is it a Pobeda?

No, as I said before, it's not by one of the better-known makers..
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: mymokke on July 27, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
My internet translater, calls this a concept car called "DOE" from 1972? by Parafenko in Ukraine.
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 28, 2015, 04:53:02 AM
Quote from: mymokke on July 27, 2015, 10:35:39 PM
My internet translater, calls this a concept car called "DOE" from 1972? by Parafenko in Ukraine.

It is from Ukraine, yes, but I have a different name for it..
I'll lock it for you until your next reply to look further into it.
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Facel on July 29, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
It is the  Stekloplastik Lany. The first prototype was built in 1972, utilizing GAZ M-21 Volga parts, clothing it with a modern, fibrelgass body. The Stekloplastik Production Association together with a local body shop supported the project and it is claimed that around 8 cars were built.
Title: Re: NEH 4165
Post by: Carnut on July 29, 2015, 03:17:22 PM
Quote from: Facel on July 29, 2015, 03:11:47 PM
It is the  Stekloplastik Lany. The first prototype was built in 1972, utilizing GAZ M-21 Volga parts, clothing it with a modern, fibrelgass body. The Stekloplastik Production Association together with a local body shop supported the project and it is claimed that around 8 cars were built.

Well, that's right  but did you not spot this?:

Quote from: Carnut on July 28, 2015, 04:53:02 AM
I'll lock it for you until your next reply to look further into it.

That was only yesterday and the lock has not been removed..

If you don't respect a lock again I'll subtract a point rather than add one!

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: Stekloplastik Lany from Ukraine
Post by: dzima1985 on July 30, 2015, 05:17:36 AM
Correct name - Lan ("Лань" / Doe)
Without the word ''Stekloplastik'' (aka ''Fiberglass'')
Engine VAZ 1500, rear suspension from the VAZ, front suspension - Moskvich.
In 2015 the car was sold as "Moskvich Lan"
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: Stekloplastik Lany from Ukraine
Post by: Carnut on July 30, 2015, 05:41:20 AM
This is what it said on the site I got the pictures from:

QUOTE
The annual rally of Retrograd, a Ukrainian club of classic cars shapes up to become really interesting. In addition to the Hadi-2, which we already featured, there will be another self-built car there

Lany was conceived by the same students who built the Hadi-2. The first prototype was built in 1972, utilizing GAZ M-21 Volga parts, clothing it with a modern, fibrelgass body. The Stekloplastik Production Association together with a local body shop supported the project and it is claimed that around 8 cars were built.

One has recently been restored and it is for sale. This one will participate at the Retrograd Rally.
UNQUOTE

I guess the word 'Stekloplastik' refers to the Stekloplastik Production Association, who did have some involvement.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: Stekloplastik Production Association Lan / Lany from Ukraine
Post by: dzima1985 on July 30, 2015, 06:11:19 AM
The car was designed and built in 1972 by SARB / САРБ (Северодонецкая Авторемонтная База / Severodonetsk Auto Repair Base) and Severodonetsk Production Association "Stekloplastik" (Северодонецкое производственное объединение «Стеклопластик») from Lugansk region, Ukraine, USSR.
Lan was built by the same students (J. Balyasny and B.Krutenko) who built the Hadi-2, Zarya, Start and other..
Other SARB cars
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=21976.msg232799#msg232799
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9398.msg65605#msg65605
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: Stekloplastik Production Association Lan / Lany from Ukraine
Post by: pnegyesi on July 30, 2015, 06:37:53 AM
Carnut was quoting my article and believe me, I had enough trouble translating the patchy Russian-Ukrainian texts :) But thanks for clearing this up
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: richard cuyler on July 30, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
Very neat, isn't it? And apparently nicely built. Lots of 1961 Chevrolet Impala influence in the rear end design.   ;) :D
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Carnut on July 30, 2015, 09:12:15 AM
Yes, it's very nicely done and doesn't look like a glass-fibre car.
Those rear lights look a bit Italian; or are they French?  Or neither?!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Djetset on July 30, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
The rear lights are taken from a ZAZ 968.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: autospeurder on July 30, 2015, 11:08:48 AM
In reply number 3 this car seems to be falsely accused of being Russian. Ukraine was and is no part of Russia, although some in Russia wouldn't mind to change this.
SARB (SARV?) stands for Severodonetskaya Avtoremontnaya Vaza. The company was based in Severodonetsk, Ukraine.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Carnut on July 30, 2015, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: Djetset on July 30, 2015, 09:35:32 AM
The rear lights are taken from a ZAZ 968.

Crikey, what's one of those?
I'll have to look it up!
Thanks Djetset.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Carnut on July 30, 2015, 11:51:22 AM
Ah yes, one of these:

Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: mymokke on July 31, 2015, 12:04:45 AM
Guess I missed out on the "locked for you" .....
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Carnut on July 31, 2015, 04:16:02 AM
Quote from: mymokke on July 31, 2015, 12:04:45 AM
Guess I missed out on the "locked for you" .....

Sorry about that; see my Reply#17.
Since dzima's posts it's clear you had actually found the right car, as the name you mentioned "Doe" is an English translation of its Russian name "Lan".
I feel inclined to give you a point anyway since what should have been your puzzle was pinched from under your nose..
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: Facel on July 31, 2015, 11:13:26 AM
Sorry, I didn't saw the text that it was locked. I know the rules so apologies.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 4165: SARB Lan / Lany from Ukraine - 1972
Post by: mymokke on August 05, 2015, 12:42:30 AM
Thank you, I appreciate the courtesy!