Solved -PJ589- Etceterini Madness #2

[Paul Jaray]

Here you are as promised the 2nd edition of my group puzzle dedicated to Etceterini.

ETCETERINI:They are hand made small displacement Italian racing cars which were produced from the late 1940's to the early 1960's
That name mimic some Italians surnames ending with -ini, like Stanguellini, Ermini, Bandini, Giannini, Volpiti, etc...eterini!

Here you will find some cars that will fit the term, others won't.
2 is the key number here.
You'll have 18 cars (2x2x2x2+2) to identify.
I know there is a good book about this cars (La Sport e i suoi Artigiani), but don't you think you'll be penalized if you do not have it, not a single picture of this puzzle cames from there.
This puzzle has got some easy ones and some hard nuts.

2 cars are not strictly speaking etceterinis.: Giai Spéciale 1949 & Tassy & Glenat Simca Huit Barchetta 1949
2 cars are still unidentified because I was too lazy, they can be the easiest ones or not[/u]: Fiat-BMW & Fiat 500a Siata
2 cars are not in that book and nowhere else, it seems.: Fiat 508c Giordano
2 cars are not in that book but somewhere else.:Fiat 1100 sport Panepinto 1951 & ?
2 cars are in that book but it won't be easy. Ala d'Oro JAP 1100 Sport
2 cars are in that book but you won't see them.: FDS-Fiat 1100 1951 & ?
2 cars will be mistaken. Buoncristiani 1100 Sport derivata Ermini
2 different names I need for 1 car: Motor RG-1 Lancia Sport by Garage Rondine
2 data can be found of a car but not its builder: Fiat 500 Sport driven by Giorgio Guerrieri
2 cars will be easily found: Fona-Fiat 1100 1949 & Fiat 1100s Raviola

Hurry up, I'll move it after 2 days of inactivity!
Enjoy!

[Paul Jaray]

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[Paul Jaray]

Answers:

Etc.1: Giuliani 750 Sport Carnut
Etc.2: Fiat 500a Barchetta Siata targhediferro
Etc.3: Buoncristiani 1100 derivata Ermini Carnut
Etc.4: Fiat 500 Sport driven by Giorgio Guerrieri targhediferro
Etc.5: Fiat 508C by Giordano targhediferro
Etc.6: Giai Spéciale 1949 targhediferro
Etc.7: Fiat-BMW targhediferro
Etc.8: FDS-Fiat 1100 1951 Iluvatar
Etc.9: Tassy & Glenat Simca Huit Barchetta 1949  Wendax
Etc.10: Fiat 508 C Poponi Barchetta Corsa 1954 Carnut
Etc.11: Motor RG-1 Lancia Sport by Garage Rondine Wendax
Etc.12: Fiat 1100 sport Panepinto 1951 targhediferro
Etc.13: Ciarelli 750 Sport targhediferro
Etc.14: Fona-Fiat 1100 1949 Iluvatar
Etc.15: Ala d'Oro JAP 1100 Sport Wendax
Etc.16: Fiat 1100 Rosselli driven by Carmine Diaferia Carnut
Etc.17: Fiat 1100s Barchetta Raviola 1946-68 mekubb
Etc.18: Fiat 1100 Sport Orlando 1951 targhediferro

[Iluvatar]

 

[Iluvatar]

Etc.8 - FDS-Fiat 1100 with Agostino Accadia at 1951 Catania-Etna

[Iluvatar]

Etc.14 - Fona-Fiat 1100

[Iluvatar]

The car behind Etc.18 is a Volpini Fiat 1100...  but maybe I won't earn a point for that

[Paul Jaray]

2 cars are not strictly speaking etceterinis.
2 cars are still unidentified because I was too lazy, they can be the easiest ones or not, I just don't know.
2 cars are not in that book and nowhere else, it seems.
2 cars are not in that book but somewhere else.
2 cars are in that book but it won't be easy.
2 cars are in that book but you won't see them.: FDS-Fiat 1100 1951
2 cars will be mistaken.
2 different names I need for 1 car
2 data can be found of a car but not its builder
2 cars will be easily found: Fona-Fiat 1100 1949

So far so good!

[Paul Jaray]

Fortunately I'm not late...I forgot to add the only rule: max 2 correct id per puzzler each day. You can guess at all of them but once you find 2 you'll have to wait to proceed.

[Iluvatar]

Fortunately I'm not late...I forgot to add the only rule: max 2 correct id per puzzler each day. You can guess at all of them but once you find 2 you'll have to wait to proceed.

[mekubb]

Etc.11  Lancia Ardea Barchetta 1952  Great puzzle by the way !

[Paul Jaray]

Etc.11  Lancia Ardea Barchetta 1952  Great puzzle by the way !

Not enough...
(thank you!)

[mekubb]

Etc.11  Lancia Ardea Barchetta 1952  Great puzzle by the way !

Not enough...
(thank you!)

What more info do you need ?

[Paul Jaray]

Lancia never produced that car and your answer is too generic.
90% of Etceterinis can be described as 'Fiat Sport', but there are dozens of 'artigiani' behind those cars, not Fiat.
Incidentally, you pick the car that as to be identified with 2 names.

[mekubb]

I will come back on Et11. Meanwhile I found Et17 : a 1946 Fiat 1100 S Barchetta, rebodied in 1968 by Giulio Raviola, it started as a saloon car

[Paul Jaray]

Et17 is correct!

2 cars are not strictly speaking etceterinis.
2 cars are still unidentified because I was too lazy, they can be the easiest ones or not, I just don't know.
2 cars are not in that book and nowhere else, it seems.
2 cars are not in that book but somewhere else.
2 cars are in that book but it won't be easy.
2 cars are in that book but you won't see them.: FDS-Fiat 1100 1951
2 cars will be mistaken.
2 different names I need for 1 car
2 data can be found of a car but not its builder
2 cars will be easily found: Fona-Fiat 1100 1949 & Fiat 1100s Raviola

[mekubb]

Et11, was one of the names Rondine ?

[Paul Jaray]

Et11, was one of the names Rondine ?

Yes. Locked for you.

[Paul Jaray]

Pros...start you engines...

[Paul Jaray]

Go!

[targhediferro]

I suppose that number 4 is the Fiat 500 Sport Guerreri (SR-6669);

[targhediferro]

Number 12 should be a Fiat 1100 sport Panepinto, from 1951.

[Paul Jaray]

#4. According to my source Guerrieri should be the pilot, was He the builder too?
#12. Yes! I hope you have not the same source of mine...

see you tomorrow!

[SACO]

et3 :Ermini of Roberto Rosa ?

[SACO]

et11 : Stanguellini sport 1948