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Title: Solved -PJ637- Innocenti proposal for a 500cc van, 1967-68
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 10:48:36 AM
What is this?
1 point for you!
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 07:27:25 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 07, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
looks like a scale model?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 08:02:23 AM
It's not a production model...it was a prototype. Not sure if it was 1:1.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: richard cuyler on January 07, 2015, 08:47:03 AM
Is it based on a BMC/British Leyland vehicle like a Morris 1300 or a Maxi?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 09:06:59 AM
I have to chek..it's not totally impossible...
Edit: nope, a totally in-house prototype.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: frederick59 on January 07, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Austin mini?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Not Austin...
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 08, 2015, 04:21:13 PM
Triumph ?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 08, 2015, 04:26:02 PM
Not Triumph.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: richard cuyler on January 09, 2015, 09:05:28 AM
Morris?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 09:08:20 AM
Not Morris
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 09, 2015, 12:57:37 PM
Rootes/Commer
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 01:05:15 PM
Nope...
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 09, 2015, 01:13:09 PM
Is it by a car manufacturer
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 01:17:50 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 09, 2015, 01:26:18 PM
Reliant ?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 02:40:33 PM
Not Reliant.
You are taking something for granted... ;)
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 09, 2015, 03:22:15 PM
do they also make vans ?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 03:32:32 PM
I have to say yes, but this may be misleading.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 09, 2015, 06:31:30 PM
Bedford ?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2015, 04:19:41 AM
Not Bedford or similar.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: morphly on January 10, 2015, 04:50:13 AM
Is it even British? To me it looks more German.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 10, 2015, 08:35:27 AM
Daft thought,Land Rover ?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2015, 02:05:52 PM
Quote from: morphly on January 10, 2015, 04:50:13 AM
Is it even British? To me it looks more German.

Not British or German or Land Rover.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: wingroad on January 10, 2015, 03:40:06 PM
It looks like a version of a Simca van designed by Heuliez.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2015, 04:19:50 PM
Not Simca or Heuliez.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: richard cuyler on January 13, 2015, 08:56:57 AM
French?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
Not French.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: morphly on January 13, 2015, 01:32:01 PM
Italian?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 13, 2015, 03:53:10 PM
Yes!
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: morphly on January 14, 2015, 08:37:34 AM
prototype for a Fiat 600T?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2015, 08:46:16 AM
Not Fiat.
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: richard cuyler on January 14, 2015, 09:20:24 AM
Innocenti?
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 14, 2015, 09:39:08 AM
Yes! Locked for you, but there's not much to add...
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: richard cuyler on January 15, 2015, 08:44:35 AM
Paul, I have researched this as thoroughly as time allows and all I can find is that Innocenti was sold to Leyland in the early 1970s (I hadn't known that before - Leyland certainly did nothing with the brand, sadly) and this van may well have been a Leyland attempt at an Innocenti delivery van, using, as other Innocenti vehicles did, Leyland engines and other sub-structure parts.  ???

It's a lovely, clean design and I'm sad it never made it to the market. Mind you, it probably would have rusted to bits in no time, this era being one of the foremost for manufacturers creating rust-prone vehicles.

I hope this will garner me a point - I was getting to the end of my ideas as to what the van was and kept thinking, those ARE BL wheels, so what else could possibly have had them? After the information as to its origins was confirmed, I just posted 'Innocenti', not expecting to be right at all!
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 15, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
Ok, no need to insist since there's not much more after all.
I can only add that is was a 1967-68 project for a 500cc water cooled 2-cylinder van and was developed by Innocenti alone.
Point for you!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: PJ - 637
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 18, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
Here's your point!
Moving to solved.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ637- Innocenti proposal for a 500cc van, 1967-68
Post by: Carnut on January 18, 2015, 06:46:00 PM
You're right that BL (or BMC) did nothing with Innocenti, but they did make some very nice cars whilst under their ownership.  I'm sure if the UK management had realised that they would have put a stop to it forthwith!
I'm thinking about the Innocenti 950 (Italian-bodied Sprite, much nicer than our version) and the later Innocenti Mini; a thoroughly wasted very nice design indeed.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ637- Innocenti proposal for a 500cc van, 1967-68
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 02, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
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