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Title: Solved -PJ640- Kurt Schröder's Hallore, 1950s
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 10:59:52 AM
What is this?
1 point for you.
(I have only a name!)
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: frederick59 on December 28, 2014, 11:30:04 AM
Veritas?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 11:38:00 AM
Not the name I have.  :-\
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Post by: datsone on December 28, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
Renault-based Vernet et Pairard?
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Post by: kwgibbs on December 28, 2014, 12:11:21 PM
is it a Porsche?
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 12:40:56 PM
Quote from: datsone on December 28, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
Renault-based Vernet et Pairard?
Quote from: kwgibbs on December 28, 2014, 12:11:21 PM
is it a Porsche?
All I have is a small magazine clipping with a name.
The name is not a known one (VP or Porsche) and the article is quite small to be read, but not impossible.

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Post by: datsone on December 28, 2014, 12:46:52 PM
French?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 01:28:51 PM
The article is in German and I believe it's from there.
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Post by: Limo on December 28, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
DDR eigenbau-Porsche van Miersch called Super-VW
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 28, 2014, 05:55:33 PM
Not that...
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Post by: Limo on December 29, 2014, 08:36:08 AM
But it is a DDR eigenbau Porsche, right?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2014, 09:34:11 AM
Unfortunately I can barely read that article and just the title is clear. There's written a name and that is all I know. In the article I can read some names and places but it's in German and I can't get the meaning of the blurred words..
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 07:30:33 AM
Pros?
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Post by: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 08:09:39 AM
We've had this car in its present disguise erroneously identified as a Miersch-Porsche before: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=15676.msg153680#msg153680
As stated before, the chassis is from a 1944 VW Kübelwagen, chassis number 2-048504. The car was registered for road use on August 17, 1957. The body is a steel body on a wooden frame, the engine is a VW 30hp.

One of the names oftenly related to the GDR-Porsches is the coachbuilder Helfried Lindner. Is that the name you are looking for?
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 08:12:03 AM
Not one of the names I can barely read and not the name of this car reported in the article.
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 08:13:21 AM
The Reimann brothers were the initiators of the Lindner-Porsche. Is it them?
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 08:21:10 AM
You know what? Trying again and again to read it, I can understand more and more. I have now 'isolated' a name for the one I think is the builder and it's not Reimann. I'm sure you'll be able to read it and there should be all the story of it.
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Post by: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 08:36:29 AM
I just found that it was built in Osterburg(Altmark), but no name of the builder.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 08:59:32 AM
According to my source, (that now seems to be more readable  ;D), it was not very far from Osterburg, but not from there.
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Post by: Wendax on January 07, 2015, 09:01:25 AM
From Stendal?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 07, 2015, 09:03:51 AM
Not there but you are getting 'geographically' closer...less than 200km.
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Post by: Allemano on January 08, 2015, 05:24:49 PM
"The Halore" is written in the text you probably have too Paul. I'm not with my HD so I'm not absolutely sure if I recall the right name
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 07:26:45 AM
You are almost there...it's Hallorè, and here's the text:
Kurt Schedder should be the name.
I can read the text but I can't understand it and it's a pain like that: "Zwei grosse hallen - die blechachmlede un die Moentagmataubung- diverse lagenrrsume un die...."
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2015, 07:57:27 AM
The builder's name is Kurt Schröder, and the car is called Hallore (without any accent), which denotes a historic worker from Halle cooking brine to obtain salt.
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Allemano on January 09, 2015, 10:49:09 AM
So, is it solved?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: Allemano on January 09, 2015, 10:49:09 AM
So, is it solved?
Yes...If anyone can read and translate the text, I'd like to know more.
Point for you!
Quote from: Wendax on January 09, 2015, 07:57:27 AM
The builder's name is Kurt Schröder, and the car is called Hallore (without any accent), which denotes a historic worker from Halle cooking brine to obtain salt.
Is there anything more on that article? I recognize some words but can't translate it.  :-\
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Post by: Allemano on January 09, 2015, 12:27:08 PM
Thank you!
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Post by: Allemano on January 09, 2015, 12:44:19 PM
Apparently Schröder built 18 of this car + 5 in the pipeline (autumn 1954). It's mainly based on Wehrmacht-VW-Kübel chassis and parts. All bodies were handbuilt and the car was capable to run 120 km/h. Schröder built only the body, customers had to have their own old VW parts and engines to complete the car. Electric stuff was done by other (non named) companies.The name "Hallore" named after the city of "Halle" was coincidentally given by a client (goldsmith) who came in Schröder's workshop. The car had no name before.
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 12:48:40 PM
Thank you...have you got another source or a better eyesight?
Title: Re: PJ - 640
Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2015, 12:53:18 PM
By the time of the article, he had already built 15 minibuses also and was working on his first full size bus.
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Post by: Allemano on January 09, 2015, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2015, 12:48:40 PM
Thank you...have you got another source or a better eyesight?
No. I stumbled on it most probaly the same way you did. Never heard of this before.
Title: Re: Solved -PJ640- Kurt Schröder's Hallore, 1950s
Post by: Wendax on April 22, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
Another Hallore: