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Title: Solved -PJ668- Oliver CLubine's Torus leading Bill Huffman's MG and Jim Muzzin's Porsche, 1961
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2015, 11:38:19 AM
Here you are a 3-point puzzle:
Identify 1 car: 0 points.
Identify 2 cars: 1 point,
Identify 3 cars: 2 points


(One of them is what it seems  ;D )
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 08:43:34 AM
Is the year 1956?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 08:46:17 AM
Later...
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: datsone on April 26, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
Going for the easy point, that must mean the Porsche RS60 at the rear is what it seems. Maybe . . .
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 10:12:34 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2015, 11:38:19 AM
Here you are a 3-point puzzle:
Identify 1 car: 0 points.
Identify 2 cars: 1 point,
Identify 3 cars: 2 points


(One of them is what it seems  ;D )

Well, that is a Porsche indeed.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: datsone on April 26, 2015, 10:26:25 AM
Down payment on a point  ;D

Is this in Australia?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 10:29:38 AM
Not Australia.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Is #201 a Panhard ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
In order to help my fellow puzzlers, I will let you all know that I have been through all results and entry lists that I could find for the period from 1957/59, and there was no car entered as race #201. If indeed this is the US, which I'm fairly sure it is - it could be many tracks, it looks a bit like Elkhart Lake.

The second car (#201) looks a lot like many H-mod cars, but somehow looks a bit too big.

I haven't a clue.........
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Is #201 a Panhard ?
Not Panhard.
Quote from: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
In order to help my fellow puzzlers, I will let you all know that I have been through all results and entry lists that I could find for the period from 1957/59, and there was no car entered as race #201. If indeed this is the US, which I'm fairly sure it is - it could be many tracks, it looks a bit like Elkhart Lake.

The second car (#201) looks a lot like many H-mod cars, but somehow looks a bit too big.

I haven't a clue.........

1st clue, not 1957/1959 but later
2nd clue, not US.

Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 12:47:59 PM
Quote from: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 10:58:37 AM
Is #201 a Panhard ?
Not Panhard.
Quote from: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
In order to help my fellow puzzlers, I will let you all know that I have been through all results and entry lists that I could find for the period from 1957/59, and there was no car entered as race #201. If indeed this is the US, which I'm fairly sure it is - it could be many tracks, it looks a bit like Elkhart Lake.

The second car (#201) looks a lot like many H-mod cars, but somehow looks a bit too big.

I haven't a clue.........

1st clue, not 1957/1959 but later
2nd clue, not US.

Crikey! I wasted half-an-hour of my life.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 01:06:56 PM
Not the US and not Australia, in the UK ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 01:08:35 PM
Not UK.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Hiawatha on April 26, 2015, 01:09:37 PM
Germany?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 01:20:40 PM
Not Germany.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Europe ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
Not Europe...tic tac tic tac...who will be 1st?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 01:23:48 PM
Argentina ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 01:26:03 PM
Not Argentina.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: mekubb on April 26, 2015, 01:30:13 PM
South Africa may be ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 02:23:50 PM
Not South Africa.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
The leading car is the Torus-Triumph of Oliver Clubine.

I'm not saying any more because it will help the others!  ;D

PS Is the Porsche being driven by Ludwig Heimrath?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Leading car is correct.
Not Ludwig Heimrath.
(BTW, 1 point for 2 cars....)
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Leading car is correct.
Not Ludwig Heimrath.
(BTW, 1 point for 2 cars....)

Yes, I realised that after I'd posted. :'(

Is the Porsche driver Jim Muzzin ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 03:15:58 PM
Quote from: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Leading car is correct.
Not Ludwig Heimrath.
(BTW, 1 point for 2 cars....)

Yes, I realised that after I'd posted. :'(

Is the Porsche driver Jim Muzzin ?
Yes!
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 03:30:52 PM
The remaining unidentified car is a real enigma. I know the track, and I'm pretty sure I know the year, but there are no records of an entry with that race number. It looks smaller than the Triumph car - is it based on an MG ?
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 03:33:51 PM
Yes, it's MG based. I know just the driver.
Locked for you now for the 3 cars plus drivers.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 03:52:47 PM
The leading car is the Torus-Triumph of Oliver Clubine, the rear car is the Porsche 550RS of Jim Muzzin, and the second-placed car is an MG special, maybe George Barrett?

It's Mosport, Ontario probably 1961.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 26, 2015, 04:13:01 PM
All correct but the MG Special was not Barrett's one.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 27, 2015, 07:34:58 AM
Sorry PJ, I'm getting nowhere with this one. I wondered whether the MG was a visitor from the US, and checked suitable records, but found nothing. The certain site where such things can be discovered has no mention of an MG, although we know that this site is not infallible. The body looks a little bit like the Campbell shell, which was sold in Canada normally with a Ford 1172 engine, and designed originally in the UK by Peel. But only a "little bit"   ;D, and that rear headrest and fin would have been added.

Please unlock.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 27, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 26, 2015, 03:52:47 PM
The leading car is the Torus-Triumph of Oliver Clubine, the rear car is the Porsche 550RS of Jim Muzzin, and the second-placed car is an MG special, maybe George Barrett?

It's Mosport, Ontario probably 1961.
Ok, 2 points for you.
Now, I have not the answer but if there is anyone who can id the 3rd car, there's another point at stake.
I know the driver: B.H.
Unlocked.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Wendax on April 27, 2015, 07:48:36 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 27, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
I know the driver: B.H.
Must be Mr. Black Hole.  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 27, 2015, 08:50:25 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 27, 2015, 07:48:36 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 27, 2015, 07:42:30 AM
I know the driver: B.H.
Must be Mr. Black Hole.  ;D

Not so. Not so.  The driver was Bill Huffman, the date 10 June 1961. (I've been looking through the internet for 30 minutes on this one subject, and my patience paid dividends. That's a very interesting site!)

(PS - I see that he was racing an MG TD in 1952, and by 1958 he was driving an MG Special - those large wheels and narrow track of the car in the puzzle photo make me think this is a special built around a TD chassis.)
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 28, 2015, 02:28:14 AM
And that's him!
Is there anything more on that MG? I couldn't find if Huffman was just the driver or He built it.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: nicanary on April 28, 2015, 07:01:01 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 28, 2015, 02:28:14 AM
And that's him!
Is there anything more on that MG? I couldn't find if Huffman was just the driver or He built it.

I've just looked through a few pages on the net, but there is nothing about the car or driver apart from race results. I guess an e-mail to the site which supplied the puzzle photo may produce a result.
Title: Re: PJ - 668
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 30, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
Two points for you!
I hope someone will find more on that MG.