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Title: Solved -PJ682- Fiat Topolino 500 C Barchetta by Otto Semplici, 1957
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 12:14:12 PM
What is this?
1 point for you!
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Post by: Carnut on September 23, 2015, 12:25:32 PM
Wow!
Italian?
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Body by Ghia Aigle ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Carnut on September 23, 2015, 12:25:32 PM
Wow!
Italian?
Yes and yes!
Quote from: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 12:27:51 PM
Body by Ghia Aigle ?
Not Ghia or Ghia Aigle.
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 12:34:20 PM
Home-made Autobianchi Primula-based spider ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 12:39:33 PM
Not Autobianchi in there.
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 12:42:43 PM
Fiat-based ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
Yes!
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 01:00:38 PM
Fiat 850 by Savio ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 01:01:01 PM
Not 850 and not Savio.
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
Fiat 128-based ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 01:14:10 PM
Not 128-based.
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Post by: João on September 23, 2015, 02:18:08 PM
By an individual or a carrozzeria?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 02:27:18 PM
An individual, I'd say.
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Post by: oko94 on September 23, 2015, 03:33:01 PM
Fiat 124-based ?
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Post by: Hiawatha on September 23, 2015, 03:38:44 PM
600 Abarth?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 04:16:26 PM
Not Fiat 124-based and not 600 Abarth.
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Post by: targhediferro on September 23, 2015, 05:58:18 PM
Fiat 1100 Fona?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 06:11:57 PM
Not 1100 and not Fona.
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Post by: targhediferro on September 23, 2015, 06:25:41 PM
The wheels are those of the Fiat 1500 GT Ghia...any connection?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 23, 2015, 07:15:35 PM
Not a 1500 or Ghia.
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Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2015, 03:19:41 AM
Is it based on a Fiat that was produced during the sixties ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 04:42:28 AM
Quote from: oko94 on September 24, 2015, 03:19:41 AM
Is it based on a Fiat that was produced during the sixties ?
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Post by: oko94 on September 24, 2015, 04:52:07 AM
Based on a Fiat from the fifties ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 05:03:21 AM
This should help a bit.
Built in the 50s from a Fiat from the late 40s, smaller than a 1100 ;)
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 05:35:36 AM
Based on a Topolino then?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 05:42:53 AM
Fiat 500c ;)
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 06:24:10 AM
I found a picture but it didn't say much about it..
It was shown at the 2004 Madonnino auto epoca.
Trying to find out a name...
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 06:46:51 AM
How on earth did you find it!?
Locked for you!
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 07:29:48 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 06:46:51 AM
How on earth did you find it!?
Locked for you!

Lots of Googling for "Fiat Topolino Special" or "Fiat 500 Special"!
So far can find no other mention of the car but will carry on looking.
Neither Maremma Press not Fiorenzo Linicchi websites are any help.
I find these sites which show a picture of a car but absolutely no mention of what it is, not even its name in a caption, intensely annoying!
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Post by: Hiawatha on September 24, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
It's probably of no help, but the license plate appears to be from 1955.
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
Quote from: Hiawatha on September 24, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
It's probably of no help, but the license plate appears to be from 1955.

Thanks, but not really because this is a Fiat Topolino 500 C Barchetta built by Otto Semplici in 1957!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 09:27:28 AM
 :applause: :applause: :applause:
This was really hard!
I live near the place where Otto built this car (GR stands for Grosseto, the city I live in) and I have never heard of him...
I've been several times to the Fiera del Madonnino and probably I met him too because he was there more than once with his Ford Model T (that I remember)...
There is not a single line about him in all my books but a magazine I just found in a pile I received not long ago.
Googling 'Otto Semplici', is virtually useless because it means 'Eight simple' and I read thousands of ...eight simple rules for this and that!
I couldn't find anything more myself knowing the answer!
Well done and a well deserved point for you!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 09:28:55 AM
Could you send me the source of that pic (even via PM)?.
I'd like to know about the other barchetta too, that I saw some years ago:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6684.msg46642#msg46642

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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 09:34:48 AM
This car is still in an Officina near my place...I thinkI'll pay a visit...
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 10:10:46 AM
I'll PM you the link.
Thank you for the opportunity to have some fun by posting such a puzzle straight to the Pro's!
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 10:24:37 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 09:28:55 AM
I'd like to know about the other barchetta too, that I saw some years ago:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=6684.msg46642#msg46642

The other barchetta is a Fiat Topolino 500 C Mille Miglia 1952, built by Enrico Vinciguerra.
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Post by: Carnut on September 24, 2015, 11:06:40 AM
I've found a few more pictures.
Apparently the registration number is from 1955.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on September 24, 2015, 02:44:07 PM
Grazie!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ682- Fiat Topolino 500 C Barchetta by Otto Semplici, 1957
Post by: thorax on September 25, 2015, 06:38:26 PM
bellissima!