Another one from the series: How is it possible nobody posted it before?
What is this?
1 point for you.
How is it possible I have no idea what series you are referring to? :D
I'm confused, but acknowledge that that state of mind isn't unusual for me these days.
I don't recognise it as a Brooklands car - is it French?
Not French but it is probably based on a French car.
Not impossible to solve ;)
Made in Europe ?
Yes!
Quote from: Paul Jaray on November 21, 2015, 06:47:39 AM
Not French but it is probably based on a French car.
Does this mean that the donor car is not known ?
It is supposed to use a particular engine, but I do not know for sure.
That engine is from a French car.
Italian car with a French engine ?
Proprietary engine, or from a well-known race car maker?
Straight four engine ?
Amilcar engine?
Not Amilcar.
Salmson?
Yes, it could be a Salmson engine.
Was this car designed by Emile Petit?
Bespoke chassis or is it based on an existing Italian chassis ?
Quote from: nicanary on December 10, 2015, 04:40:39 AM
Was this car designed by Emile Petit?
Nope.
Quote from: oko94 on December 10, 2015, 05:31:50 AM
Bespoke chassis or is it based on an existing Italian chassis ?
Bespoke chassis.
Is the name San Sebastian involved with this car?
Nope.
I think this car is still out there.
The builders are not obscure names after all, but this is the only car they built.
Are the builders known for other types of vehicles than cars (motorbikes, planes, boats...) ?
Not for what they built.
For what they raced or drove ?
Yes!
Did they race motorcycles ?
Built by one of the Marzotto family?
Powered by Peugeot?
They did not race motorcycles (or at least it's not reported in their wikipedia page) but are both not obscure.
I have not much details on the car but It was still out there few years ago.
Not Marzotto.
Were the builders brothers, or unrelated?
Unrelated.(..but forever connected).
Are they known for being plane pilots ?
One for sure...
Was he a WWI hero ?
He was not remembered as an hero. They were both quite known for something else...and still are.
Was Italo Balbo one of the guys ?
Nope...but one of them has been pretty close to him in at least one occasion.
Gabriele D'Annunzio ?
Non him.
Let's get back to the plane pilot : did he become famous because he broke a record / achieved something spectacular ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 23, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Let's get back to the plane pilot : did he become famous because he broke a record / achieved something spectacular ?
Such as the Schneider Trophy pilots Mario de Bernardi (but I doubt it would be him), Adriano Bacula, Tommasso Dal Molin or Federico Guazetti?
Nope. I read it was also a pilot on his page.. I didn't remember that.
In the aviation is also the connection with Balbo, for a specific episode...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 23, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
In the aviation is also the connection with Balbo, for a specific episode...
Was one of the puzzle guys a pilot of one of the flying boats involved in the transatlantic flights led by Balbo in 1930 and 1933 ?
Nope. This episode is not much known. Only if you already know who we are talking about, you could find it in his bio...and I don't know if it's in Balbo's.
Let's say he once was in trouble and received some help.
The builders of this car joined few others to 'do' what assured them their fame.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 23, 2015, 01:54:14 PM
Only if you already know who we are talking about, you could find it in his bio...
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2015, 12:38:01 PM
Not impossible to solve
I see a contradiction here ;D
It is not...but it is hard to explain why.
2 men build this car.
They were also gentlemen drivers.
1 of them was a pilot too.
They did something that will make them known all over the world (of course if we remain in our field, cars ;) )
Reading the bio of 1 of them you can read that episode about Balbo, but it's not that relevant.
A group of gentlemen drivers...joined togheter...what could they possible do of such an importance to be remembered till nowadays?
I think with your next guess will arrive a lock...
Aymo Maggi and Franco Mazzotti ?
:applause: :applause:
See? Wasn't impossible...not easy but with the right hints.
Do you know how did they call it? This is very easy indeed. ;)
MM (Maggi - Mazzotti), built in 1926. There's a video of this car in action on Youtube.
That's it!
It was on display at some events few years ago as a 'racing car derived from a Samson' and 'it probably had a Salmson engine.
There were no pics of it in its current state and It will be nice to see it.
It was built in Chiari by Rino Berardi.
Thank you ! Your hints were helpful indeed.