Solved: Wendax 1492 - Panhard 8 CV racecar

Wendax · February 01, 2015, 03:29:32 AM

A thick coat recommended.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.

Wendax · February 08, 2015, 02:38:41 AM

up

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 03:56:27 AM

up again

pnegyesi · February 15, 2015, 04:38:24 AM

Austrian?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 04:53:40 AM

No

pnegyesi · February 15, 2015, 05:17:27 AM

German?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 05:22:47 AM

No

4popoid · February 15, 2015, 06:05:18 AM

Panhard-Levassor 8CV from 1899.

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 07:01:21 AM

No

pnegyesi · February 15, 2015, 07:04:47 AM

Swiss?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 07:19:30 AM

No

pnegyesi · February 15, 2015, 07:26:07 AM

Benelux?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 08:09:45 AM

No

targhediferro · February 15, 2015, 10:36:09 AM

Scandinavian?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 11:03:32 AM

No

nicanary · February 15, 2015, 11:11:37 AM

We know it's not a Panhard-Levassor, but nobody's asked. Is it French?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 11:13:19 AM

It is French.

nicanary · February 15, 2015, 11:17:20 AM

Mors?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 11:18:57 AM

No

4popoid · February 15, 2015, 02:39:09 PM

From a standard on-line reference site (link provided by PM upon request). Is this old photograph incorrect?

Wendax · February 15, 2015, 03:00:11 PM

I have to admit that I must have been identified the car with the company CGV in the background without further research.
It is in fact the 1899 racecar which was driven by Fernand Charron to victory at the Paris-Bordeaux race.

A well-earned point for you.

ropat53 · February 15, 2015, 09:12:12 PM

I think the driver is Léonce Girardot and the car had already taken part in the 1898 Paris-Amsterdam.

First picture is Léonce Girardot.
Second picture Fernand Charron
Third picture says "Coupe de Perigord" Paris-Rouen February 4th 1899.
Maybe the car is from 1898?

4popoid · February 16, 2015, 02:13:27 AM

Thanks for the point Gerd! I deliberately did not try to identify the driver because of so much conflicting information. For example the picture I posted clearly identifies the driver as Charron, yet in my reference this very picture has an added caption which states that the driver is Girardot. My opinion is the driver shown in the picture is Charron, as the information seems to be part of the original photograph, whereas the caption was added later, however this could be faulty logic. In another reference I found that Charron and Girardot were competitors who drove identical P-L 8 CV cars for the same team. Still it is extremely unlikely that both names were correct for the same photograph unless the drivers were identical twins who dressed alike.

Wendax · February 16, 2015, 02:27:15 AM

It seems as if ropat is right that the driver is Girardot. Grace's Guide has a comment that the original caption is wrong about the driver. Further on , it looks as if Charron's car was slightly different:

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Solved: Wendax 1492 - Panhard 8 CV racecar