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Title: Solved: Wendax 1511 - Teocar 13/38 PS
Post by: Wendax on February 20, 2015, 02:19:42 AM
This one may turn out to be a tough one.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on February 27, 2015, 02:30:55 AM
up
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 02:34:07 AM
up again
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 02:36:25 AM
Fulmina 45 PS from about 1913?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 02:45:54 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 02:50:17 AM
German marque?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 03:08:31 AM
Yes
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 03:12:11 AM
Der Dessauer from about 1912?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 03:15:17 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 03:20:40 AM
Manufactured in territory later to become DDR?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 03:30:38 AM
I only have the address of the company, but the factory most probably was somewhere else. The address I have would never become part of the GDR.
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 03:35:07 AM
Is the address you have located in that part of Berlin that was not a part of the DDR?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 03:35:33 AM
Yes  :)
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 03:50:58 AM
Perhaps an Oryx from Berlin-Reinickendorf?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 03:57:16 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 01:43:08 PM
Was this marque produced in 1918 or before?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 02:04:05 PM
Yes
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
Standard (Standard Automobil GmbH) from 1912?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
Anker from Berlin-Tempelhof?
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Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 04:38:48 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 05:10:14 PM
LUC (Loeb-Werke AG) from Berlin-Charlottenburg?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 06, 2015, 05:17:29 PM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 06, 2015, 07:17:07 PM
NAIG from Berlin-Charlottenburg?
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Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 01:33:33 AM
No
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 01:38:40 AM
Perhaps I have been thinking too obscure.  How about: Protos from Nonnendamm (Charlottenburg?) Berlin?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 01:43:03 AM
Not Protos.
For this car you can't think too obscure, I guess.
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Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
I was afraid that you were going to say that.  One more on the current list of possibilities: Brandt from (?) Berlin.
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Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 01:48:59 AM
No
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Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 01:53:22 AM
Back to the mine for more digging.  Just to narrow the field a bit, is my current thinking of 1913 about right (if you know).
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 02:10:57 AM
Almost correct
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Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 02:28:14 AM
EBM of 1912 only?
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Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 03:09:45 AM
Wrong car, wrong year
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Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 03:30:50 AM
1914 Altona?
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Post by: Wendax on March 07, 2015, 03:33:41 AM
1914 is correct, Altona is not.
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Post by: Arunas on March 07, 2015, 02:41:39 PM
Might be totally wrong, but, perhaps, Beckmann?
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Post by: 4popoid on March 07, 2015, 11:25:13 PM
1914 Loeb 10/30 PS by Loeb-Werke AG of Fritschestraße in Berlin-Charlottenburg?  Yes, I know I have already inquired about the LUC, but at some point after 1914 the name of this model was changed from LUC to Loeb, so I've got to ask. 
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Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 01:25:21 AM
Twice no
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Post by: 4popoid on March 08, 2015, 09:19:17 AM
I guess I'll have to try a little more geography.  Is the address that you have located in what would later be the British sector of West Berlin?
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Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 09:25:19 AM
Yes
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Post by: 4popoid on March 08, 2015, 10:12:24 AM
Only because many of ny other possibilities seem to have been clustered there: Is your address located in the Charlottenburg district?
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Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 10:23:49 AM
Yes, the building still exists:
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: 4popoid on March 08, 2015, 01:38:46 PM
I just found the picture/poster below.  I have been unable to find anything else about this manufacturer, but, from what I see here, this might be our mystery car.  So: 1914 Pallas- Vergaser?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 01:41:29 PM
Sorry, no. Vergaser is the German term for carburettor, so Pallas is not an automobile brand.
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Post by: Arunas on March 08, 2015, 02:41:09 PM
NAIG?
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 02:46:52 PM
No
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Post by: Arunas on March 08, 2015, 02:49:00 PM
Standard Automobilfabrik GmbH?
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Post by: Wendax on March 08, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
No
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:10:56 AM
RAW?
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Post by: Wendax on March 09, 2015, 08:11:17 AM
No
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:12:59 AM
And not Reissig or Siegfried either, then?
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Post by: Wendax on March 09, 2015, 08:14:42 AM
Not them either
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:15:16 AM
Was this maker featured in any book, that you know?
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Post by: Wendax on March 09, 2015, 08:25:45 AM
No
This one may turn out to be a tough one.
;)
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:30:46 AM
Cool...we are not looking at a Coachbuilder, right?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:33:18 AM
It's a Schlager 13/38ps!
Called Teocar, by Theodore Tietz from Berlin.
Here you are another:
Title: Re: Wendax 1511
Post by: Wendax on March 09, 2015, 08:42:54 AM
Your answer is right ... and wrong!

Schlager is the German word for hit.  ;D
But this car didn't turn out to be one.
Teocar 13/38 PS is the correct answer.
I don't know, if it was just a badge engineering job, or where it was built.

A well deserved point for you.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1511 - Teocar 13/38 PS
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:51:40 AM
I should learn German too  ;D
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1511 - Teocar 13/38 PS
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 09, 2015, 08:58:17 AM
It was a Partin-Palmer.  ;)
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1511 - Teocar 13/38 PS
Post by: Wendax on March 09, 2015, 09:07:11 AM
Very interesting, thank you!