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Title: Solved: Wendax 1575 - BMW Eigenbau by Günter Hildebrandt
Post by: Wendax on April 26, 2015, 02:00:58 AM
He should have covered the tires before spraying the wheels.

For one point, please respond and identify this car.
Title: Re: Wendax 1575
Post by: Wendax on May 03, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
up
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Post by: Wendax on May 10, 2015, 01:45:45 AM
up again
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Post by: pnegyesi on May 10, 2015, 02:29:59 AM
Melkus?
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Post by: Wendax on May 10, 2015, 05:47:04 AM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 10, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
Looks very much like a Cooper copy. Is it German?
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Post by: Wendax on May 10, 2015, 06:47:12 AM
Yes
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Post by: nicanary on May 10, 2015, 05:30:30 PM
I can't find this in the usual places. Is it one of Gottfried Vollmer's modified Cooper cars, which he called Atlas?
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Post by: Wendax on May 11, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 12, 2015, 08:36:51 AM
Willy Krenkel's eigenbau?
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Post by: Wendax on May 12, 2015, 10:44:07 AM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 13, 2015, 06:31:27 AM
I'm sorry to be boring, but I'm going to have to try to solve this by a process of elimination. I'm fairly sure it's an eigenbau, and probably from the second half of the '50s, so I'll start offering names for which I have no photo.

Gerhard Brembach?

Title: Re: Wendax 1575
Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 06:43:16 AM
It is an Eigenbau, but not by Gerhard Brembach.
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Post by: nicanary on May 13, 2015, 07:05:56 AM
How long have you got?  :D

Siegfried Seifert?
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Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 07:32:11 AM
Just keep asking... I had puzzles with almost 150 replies before.  ;D

Not Seifert.
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Post by: nicanary on May 13, 2015, 07:40:16 AM
Frieder Radlein ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 08:50:03 AM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 13, 2015, 08:54:13 AM
Willi Stiehler ?
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Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 09:53:35 AM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 13, 2015, 11:23:47 AM
Hans Senf?
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Post by: Wendax on May 13, 2015, 12:15:27 PM
No
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Post by: nicanary on May 14, 2015, 08:25:34 AM
Is this car from 1955 or after?
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Post by: Wendax on May 14, 2015, 08:50:34 AM
Before
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Post by: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 08:54:46 AM
Günter Hildebrandt's Hildebrandt-Norton from 1952?
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Post by: Wendax on May 14, 2015, 09:16:47 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 08:54:46 AM
Günter Hildebrandt's Hildebrandt-Norton from 1952?
Almost correct. It is Günter Hildebrandt's Eigenbau racer from 1952, but I have a different engine. Locked for you.
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Post by: nicanary on May 14, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
Congratulations PJ!  That name was on my next list of 6 builders, but only third behind 2 others ;).

The car looks like it should come from about 1956/57, so for an eigenbau it's better than most.

(The race number suggests that the car is pictured at the 1952 Grenzlandring races. I have two sources of information about the engine fitted to the car and they both say something different! Good hunting.)
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Post by: Paul Jaray on May 14, 2015, 04:02:46 PM
Quote from: nicanary on May 14, 2015, 09:25:57 AM
Congratulations PJ!  That name was on my next list of 6 builders, but only third behind 2 others ;).

The car looks like it should come from about 1956/57, so for an eigenbau it's better than most.

(The race number suggests that the car is pictured at the 1952 Grenzlandring races. I have two sources of information about the engine fitted to the car and they both say something different! Good hunting.)

Thank you, I think it's a 'BMW Eigenbau' then, according to all the sources I found but the one where I saw a pic of it  ;D
Title: Re: Wendax 1575
Post by: Wendax on May 14, 2015, 04:23:43 PM
That's what I have, too. One more point for you.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1575 - BMW Eigenbau by Günter Hildebrandt
Post by: nicanary on May 14, 2015, 07:06:01 PM
One site has an entry list for that race which states BMW, another site has the results which claims Norton. Maybe he stopped in the middle of the race and changed the engine  ;D.
Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1575 - BMW Eigenbau by Günter Hildebrandt
Post by: g5yes on January 05, 2022, 04:16:10 AM
in fact this is almost certainly Heinz Grimm trying out Günter Hildebrandt's eigenbau car out towards the end of the 1952 season, pending driving the car the following year.

this particular picture revealed the unusual position of the 500cc BMW boxer engine as side on, with one barrel facing forwards and one backwards.

As Günter Hildebrandt owned a Manx Norton it was thought that was the engine until this picture came light.


Title: Re: Solved: Wendax 1575 - BMW Eigenbau by Günter Hildebrandt
Post by: Wendax on January 05, 2022, 04:36:30 AM
Thank you very much for this additional information.