Solved: Wendax 1794 - Monteverdi 375 L high speed

[Wendax]

An easy Rookie point.

For one point, please respond and identify car and coachbuilder.

[Wendax]

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[72Must]

Monteverdi 375L "high speed" 1968 by Frua ?

[Wendax]

I said it was easy. 

[Carnut]

Here's the finished version.
Frua also used the same design for the AC 429, which was planned to replace the 428 but never did (also pictured)..
Beautiful cars.

[SACO]

Please , make , model and coachbuilder of this car , and the first owner ! 

[kitaharo]

 hmm.... Maserati Ghibli  ？

[SACO]

hmm.... No !

[SACO]

Experts!

[sichel]

Monteverdi?

[SACO]

Yes ! Locked for you !

[sichel]

Monteverdi 375 L Coupé, by Frua in 1968. I bought it by Gunter Sachs 

[SACO]

Yes ! , Monteverdi 375 L Coupé ( one off ) ; bought by Gunter Sachs , Brigitte Bardot husband's !
1 point for Sichel ! 

[autospeurder]

I think this one has been solved before.
https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2015-44/solved-wendax-1794-monteverdi-375-l-high-speed/

[SACO]

No ,the rear end of the Sachs car's is different to the standard Monteverdi Highspeed 375L but look like  the AC 429 also by Frua !

[Carnut]

The puzzle car is probably the original prototype 4-seat 375L, built by Frua and shown at the Geneva Show in 1968. This was the first 4-seater Monteverdi, and I believe one other similar car was built in 1969; maybe that's the one that Gunter Sachs bought, I don't know.

The 375L pictured in SACO's last picture is, as he says, the production 375L, about 100 of which were built by Fissore and which had a completely different body from Frua's earlier 375L (look at the rear side window).

Wendax's puzzle 1794 is also the Frua prototype, not the Fissore production car, and should therefore be merged.  Agreed?

[SACO]

Ok !

[Carnut]

Merged.

[fromwien]

The puzzle car is probably the original prototype 4-seat 375L, built by Frua and shown at the Geneva Show in 1968. This was the first 4-seater Monteverdi, and I believe one other similar car was built in 1969; maybe that's the one that Gunter Sachs bought, I don't know.

The 375L pictured in SACO's last picture is, as he says, the production 375L, about 100 of which were built by Fissore and which had a completely different body from Frua's earlier 375L (look at the rear side window).

Wendax's puzzle 1794 is also the Frua prototype, not the Fissore production car, and should therefore be merged.  Agreed?

The Monteverdi-book mentions, that only ONE Monteverdi High Speed 375L Frua (1968) has been built:
March 1968 Geneva Show: with wire wheels (some pictures attached)
October 1968 Paris Show: with magnesium wheels and louvers in front fender (some pictures attached)
Today: Monteverdi Museum Binningen (picture attached)

[Carnut]

The Monteverdi-book mentions, that only ONE Monteverdi High Speed 375L Frua (1968) has been built:
March 1968 Geneva Show: with wire wheels (some pictures attached)
October 1968 Paris Show: with magnesium wheels and louvers in front fender (some pictures attached)
Today: Monteverdi Museum Binningen (picture attached)

But then 2 cars are listed at the back, which I took to mean they built a second one in 1969 after the initial prototype in 1968, which was shown at Geneva that year.  I didn't think it just means the same car, which was shown again at Geneva in 1969?

[fromwien]

The Monteverdi 375L High Speed, presented in Geneva 1969 was the Fissore-model (picture attached)

[fromwien]

Monteverdi production-list

[Carnut]

Yes, I thought that was odd too, which is why I copied the previous page rather than that one!
It makes sense, but that must mean the book is wrong? It specifically says "Wie Genf 1968" (which for those who don't speak German means "Like Geneva 1968") but in fact it's a completely different car from the one shown at Geneva in 1968 with different dimensions, so that whole line is wrong...

[fromwien]

I agree with you, that the presentation of the "special features"-column of the table can certainly lead to misunderstandings:
What was meant in my opinion:
"Special feature" Monteverdi 375 L High Speed 1968: "..but four-seater coupé"
"Special feature" Monteverdi 375 L High Speed 1969: "same as with 1968 model"

[Carnut]

I don't know what they mean! Frankly it looks just wrong to me, as the 1969 car doesn't look like the 1968 car at all and was built by a different Carrozzeria!