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Title: Solved - NEH 4520: US-built Triumph-based special with Ford Pinto 2.3
Post by: Carnut on February 23, 2016, 07:18:03 AM
What's this car based on and what powers it - for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on March 01, 2016, 05:14:31 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on March 29, 2016, 04:55:49 AM
Pro's with fewer than 400 points?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: kwgibbs on March 29, 2016, 05:03:20 AM
was it based on a fiat topolino?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on March 29, 2016, 05:19:06 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on March 29, 2016, 05:03:20 AM
was it based on a fiat topolino?

Nothing Fiat in it at all..
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: sixtee5cuda on March 29, 2016, 08:09:29 AM
From the U.S.A.?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on March 29, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: sixtee5cuda on March 29, 2016, 08:09:29 AM
From the U.S.A.?

I didn't make a note of where it was built and now I can't find it anymore - even using Google Search by Image!
I have a feeling it was built in the USA though, yes.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 08, 2016, 05:55:16 AM
Open to all Pro's
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Oguerrerob on April 17, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
VW based?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 17, 2016, 02:59:19 PM
I was a bit taken back when I found out it was American. I thought it might be Ford 10hp based!

It looks too small to be an American chassis, and that exhaust pipe suggests a smallish engine. Is it a BMC motor?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 18, 2016, 04:35:08 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on April 17, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
VW based?

No..

Quote from: nicanary on April 17, 2016, 02:59:19 PM
I was a bit taken back when I found out it was American. I thought it might be Ford 10hp based!

It looks too small to be an American chassis, and that exhaust pipe suggests a smallish engine. Is it a BMC motor?

I'm only 95% sure it was built in the US.
The base is British, but not BMC.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 18, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
Made by a Company/maker/individual known for other cars?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 18, 2016, 07:20:17 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 18, 2016, 07:12:37 AM
Made by a Company/maker/individual known for other cars?

No, it's a home-built.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 18, 2016, 10:52:31 AM
Is it based on a Singer Roadster?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 18, 2016, 11:05:47 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 18, 2016, 10:52:31 AM
Is it based on a Singer Roadster?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 18, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
Standard?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 18, 2016, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: nicanary on April 18, 2016, 02:19:22 PM
Standard?

Close!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 03:55:18 AM
Triumph, then. Not part of BMC but later amalgamated......

TR based?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 19, 2016, 05:14:00 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 03:55:18 AM
Triumph, then. Not part of BMC but later amalgamated......

TR based?

It is Triumph-based,yes.
Unfortunately I've lost the website I got it from (despite saving it to my 'Favourites' - lots of those seem to have vanished...) so I can longer access the other details.  Even Searching by Image doesn't find it, so we'll have to call it solved with just that information.
Well done!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 05:27:02 AM
Well that was an easy point! I'd continued to search the net for more info in case I was correct, but obviously I was wasting my time.

Thanks for the point - I can't see why anyone would do this to a TR, unless the body had been accident-damaged. I actually wondered whether it was a Triumph Roadster.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 19, 2016, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 05:27:02 AM
Well that was an easy point! I'd continued to search the net for more info in case I was correct, but obviously I was wasting my time.

Thanks for the point - I can't see why anyone would do this to a TR, unless the body had been accident-damaged. I actually wondered whether it was a Triumph Roadster.

Sorry nicanary but delving into my archives I find I do have a bit more information about this car so am going to move it back to the Pro's and lock it for you again to come up with other answers (which engine it has, for instance, since it's not Triumph-powered..)
My apologies but sure you'll enjoy searching a bit more...!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 05:42:57 AM
No problem.

Can I take it that this car is Triumph-based but with a non-Triumph engine?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 19, 2016, 05:44:12 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 19, 2016, 05:42:57 AM
No problem.

Can I take it that this car is Triumph-based but with a non-Triumph engine?

Yes, it has a Triumph frame but not a Triumph engine, plus a proprietary gearbox.
I still don't know which actual model of Triumph it was based on, but I suspect it was a TR4.  It could be a Spitfire though, but the point doesn't depend on the model!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: nicanary on April 20, 2016, 03:57:14 AM
Please unlock.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 20, 2016, 04:31:46 AM
Quote from: nicanary on April 20, 2016, 03:57:14 AM
Please unlock.

Done!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 20, 2016, 06:02:12 PM
British engine ?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 20, 2016, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: oko94 on April 20, 2016, 06:02:12 PM
British engine ?

Yes and No..
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 01:57:51 AM
Ford engine ?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 21, 2016, 05:27:26 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 01:57:51 AM
Ford engine ?

Yes!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 10:41:34 AM
What's left to find to score a point ?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 21, 2016, 11:05:32 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 10:41:34 AM
What's left to find to score a point ?

I was hoping to get something a bit more specific about which Ford engine (there must be hundreds of different ones down the years!).
The clue was in the 'Yes and No' answer I gave before; which Ford engine was made in Britain but was fitted to American cars?

This puzzle is now locked for oko94!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 11:24:18 AM
CVH ?
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 21, 2016, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: oko94 on April 21, 2016, 11:24:18 AM
CVH ?

No, that was made in both the UK and the USA for their respective Fords.
The engine in this car was built in the UK but exported to the USA for a car of the same name as the engine..
It's easy - there's only one engine it could be!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 22, 2016, 07:27:21 AM
From 1971 to 1973, base Pintos were powered by a British-built Kent (aka Crossflow) 1600 cc straight four.
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: Carnut on April 22, 2016, 07:56:20 AM
It is a Ford Pinto engine, yes, but in its 2.3 litre OHC version.
It seems this particular version was also known as the Lima engine after the plant in Lima, Ohio, where it was also built.
So only the smaller-engined Pintos used engines made in the UK; the larger engine seems to have been made in the US.  You live and learn.
The car had a BW T5 gearbox.

Let's call it solved!
Title: Re: NEH 4520
Post by: oko94 on April 22, 2016, 08:28:25 AM
Quote from: Carnut on April 22, 2016, 07:56:20 AM
So only the smaller-engined Pintos used engines made in the UK; the larger engine seems to have been made in the US.  You live and learn.

It's even more complicated than that :
- 1971-1974 2-liter Pintos used a German-built engine
- 1975-1979 V6 Pintos used a Cologne V6, but I don't know if it was German-built or US-built.