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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2016 => Topic started by: pnegyesi on June 05, 2016, 11:33:08 AM

Title: Solved: PN #904 -- Butcher & Gage, 1903
Post by: pnegyesi on June 05, 2016, 11:33:08 AM
Please identify this car - brand name and model year will be sufficient for a point
Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: pnegyesi on June 12, 2016, 01:02:02 PM
Experts?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2016, 12:44:37 PM
Professionals?
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Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
European?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2016, 12:58:24 PM
no
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Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2016, 01:05:29 PM
From the US?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2016, 01:10:06 PM
yes
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Post by: Wendax on June 19, 2016, 01:17:04 PM
pre 1900?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 19, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
no
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 29, 2016, 12:56:10 PM
Steam car?
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Post by: pnegyesi on June 29, 2016, 01:05:12 PM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 09:54:30 AM
Was the maker active only between 1900 and 1910?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 10:13:37 AM
yes
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 10:44:02 AM
More than 5 years?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 10:50:47 AM
less than a year. The company built 2 cars
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 10:58:30 AM
1905?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 11:01:37 AM
earlier
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
1903?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 11:59:01 AM
yes
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
still 14 names...from New York, like Blaisdell?
That was a steamer...
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 02:30:16 PM
not from NY
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 05, 2016, 04:04:31 PM
From Massachusetts, like Ernest Johnson's?
Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: pnegyesi on July 05, 2016, 04:11:13 PM
not from there
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Post by: Oguerrerob on July 06, 2016, 09:42:38 AM
Gasoline?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 06, 2016, 09:47:05 AM
yes
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2016, 05:22:43 AM
Is it featured in any book or in the Standard Catalog?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 08, 2016, 07:08:00 AM
It is mentioned in the Standard Catalog
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2016, 07:28:41 AM
Was it later or previously known like something else, like Shelby/Darling, Reinerston/Rex Buckboard and similar?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 08, 2016, 08:40:51 AM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2016, 08:48:41 AM
I hope it's from Ohio...
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 08, 2016, 10:55:31 AM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 08, 2016, 04:28:02 PM
Cleaver?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 12:12:37 AM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 11:10:09 AM
From Michigan?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 11:51:41 AM
yes
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 12:21:16 PM
M.B. Martin's?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 12:49:11 PM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 01:09:42 PM
Charles H. Wisner?
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 01:12:49 PM
no
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Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
A company that built 2 cars, from Michigan, active for less than one year in 1903.
This one is a gasoline car.
Is the other a gasoline car as well?
Just a clarification: active for more than 1 year as a 1903-1903 company or as a late 1902 early 1903 (or late 1903 early 1904)?
Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 01:34:21 PM
oops, the material just disappeared from the web. But this was a company set up in 1903. It made two cars, then realised it's not working, so they stopped. Apparently the company survived afterwards. Probably both cars were petrol powered
Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 02:15:56 PM
I'm not looking for it on the web but on my index...I already browsed all the Standard Catalog and now I know it's not pictured there...I hope the info online matches with the ones in that book.
If I sort my info according to what I know (2 models, 1903 only, Michigan, gasoline) I got nothing...
Not a Jackson, right?

Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 02:35:35 PM
no, there's no picture in the Standard Catalog - in fact, they say that it is not known whether the two cars were really built at all. But here we have proof. No, it's not a Jackson, but you're onto something
Title: Re: PN #904
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
Butcher & Gage ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on July 09, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
I gave you a lot of clues :)! Congrats
Title: Re: Solved: PN #904 -- Butcher & Gage, 1903
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 09, 2016, 04:42:10 PM
You did, but I found it only because I put a special tag in my index when the production of the maker is in doubt.
Without THAT clue I don't think I could have made it...I filed 6713 makers from those catalogs!
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