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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2016 => Topic started by: Djetset on December 21, 2015, 12:29:32 PM

Title: SOLVED: Djetset 758 - Ligier/Heuliez-O F 4x4 (Daihatsu F20-based)
Post by: Djetset on December 21, 2015, 12:29:32 PM
The full detailed name of this vehicle to gain a point please...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 01, 2016, 08:02:20 AM
Climbing up to the next level...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 20, 2016, 06:23:17 AM
I'm amazed that this has not received a single comment as yet, but I'm sure this will not remain the case when it climbs up to the Pros now...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: nicanary on January 20, 2016, 06:25:47 AM
Daihatsu TAF20 ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: kwgibbs on January 20, 2016, 06:33:38 AM
Toyota land cruiser fj40?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 20, 2016, 06:53:29 AM
It's not a Land Cruiser, but it is Daihatsu TAF20 Taft-related, although not a Daihatsu, so locked to Nicanary until your next answer.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: nicanary on January 20, 2016, 03:57:46 PM
Unlock it please. I know the car was sold under different names in different markets, but I assume that this is built under licence in a country other than Japan. I can't find any information to help me.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 20, 2016, 04:08:16 PM
I would have said it could be a Toyota Blizzard LD10, but the front end seems to be a little bit different...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 05:12:25 AM
Not a Toyota Blizzard, and thanks for the unlock Nicanary. As you correctly say, the Daihatsu was sold under any names around the world (Taft, Wildcat, etc.), but this one was not built in Japan...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 05:28:01 AM
Built in Asia ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 06:07:41 AM
Built in Asia ?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 07:02:10 AM
Built in South America ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 07:12:38 AM
Portaro?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 07:23:00 AM
Not built in South America, and not a Portaro.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 07:27:39 AM
European?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 07:28:18 AM
European?
Yes.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 07:30:34 AM
From Eastern Europe?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 07:31:53 AM
From Eastern Europe?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 07:45:24 AM
From a Mediterranean country ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 07:51:37 AM
From a Mediterranean country ?
Yes.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 07:56:53 AM
Spain ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 08:08:28 AM
Spain ?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 08:15:36 AM
Italy ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 08:41:08 AM
Italy ?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 08:44:39 AM
French?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 09:05:39 AM
French?
Mais oui!
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 09:14:04 AM
Auverland?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 09:16:16 AM
Auverland?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 09:32:10 AM
Part of the competition for a French army jeep that led to the Peugeot P4, the Citroen C44 and the Renault TRM500?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 09:54:15 AM
Part of the competition for a French army jeep that led to the Peugeot P4, the Citroen C44 and the Renault TRM500?
It was intended for both military and civilian use, but I am not 100% certain if it was part of the French army 'jeep' competition.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 10:01:50 AM
By a known French car maker?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 10:03:13 AM
By a known French car maker?
Quite a well known name...
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 10:07:44 AM
Talbot?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 10:19:50 AM
Talbot?
No, slightly lesser-known.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Poncin?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 10:32:35 AM
Poncin?
I like your thinking, but its not Poncin.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 10:43:44 AM
Teilhol?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 10:44:23 AM
Panhard ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 10:47:11 AM
None of the above.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 10:48:29 AM
Sovamag?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 10:49:50 AM
Dallas?
No, better known than Dallas (Grandin).
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 10:58:04 AM
Cournil ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 11:17:25 AM
Is the company still active?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 11:34:41 AM
Cournil ?
No.  As a clue, this vehicle has two reasonably well-known French names  ;)
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 11:35:52 AM
Is the company still active?
One yes, one no. Now that's an even bigger clue!!
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 12:27:25 PM
Was Dangel involved ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 12:47:48 PM
Was Dangel involved ?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 12:51:47 PM
Matra?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
Poncin?
I like your thinking, but its not Poncin.

So one of the names involved is known for off-road vehicles ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 01:32:26 PM
Matra?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 21, 2016, 01:34:41 PM
Poncin?
I like your thinking, but its not Poncin.

So one of the names involved is known for off-road vehicles ?
No, not really.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
Ligier?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: oko94 on January 21, 2016, 04:12:40 PM
Heuliez ?
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: nicanary on January 21, 2016, 04:45:02 PM
Which one gets the point? ;D.

Fascinating. Heuliez-O but Heuliez F written on the plans. Built in 1983 on a base from the 1970s and powered by a Peugeot XD3 engine, and with Ligier logo on the bonnet and Heuliez logo on the bumper!

I don't want a point, but how do you respond to the two previous questions? :lmao:
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Wendax on January 21, 2016, 04:49:13 PM
We'll take half a point each!  ;D
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: nicanary on January 22, 2016, 04:08:56 AM
Rather than send a PM, I'll apologise to the puzzle-setter publicly. Basically I wrecked this puzzle.

I am by nature a very curious person. Even if I have not taken part in a puzzle, I very often do a bit of research/checking after it has been solved. Seeing the answers from wendax and oko94 I looked up the source and for some stupid reason I revealed the full details. I'm fairly sure the puzzle-setter would have locked it for either of them on the basis of their posts, but he didn't get the chance thanks to my "enthusiasm".

Sorry Djetset. I'm not sure if I'll ever learn.
Title: Re: Djetset 758
Post by: Djetset on January 22, 2016, 05:12:38 AM
Gosh, I went out last night for a very nice, long relaxing meal with friends, so switched my 'phone off not to be disturbed.  Coming back on-line this morning, I see that there has been some major progress with this puzzle overnight!!!

So, what to do now?!  As Nicanary says, if I'd seen Wendax's 'Ligier' guess last night I would have locked the puzzle to him to find out more. However...

I guess I could be generous and award one point each (as half points don't exist) to Wendax for guessing Ligier, Oko94 for guessing Heuliez, and Nicanary for completing the puzzle with the O F name, or I could just move it to Solved with the full correct model name (Ligier/Heuliez-O F 4x4) and award no points at all.  Perhaps Admin can help me decide the most fare and correct outcome here?

Meanwhile, here's a full photo of the car...

 
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: nicanary on January 22, 2016, 05:17:34 AM
No point for me - I'm the pariah. Personally I'd say one point each to the other two - they're both experienced puzzlers who would have solved this with a lock in place.
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: Carnut on January 22, 2016, 05:22:10 AM
Certainly one for Wendax and one for oko too and maybe one for nicanary as well!
We must never lose sight of the fact that this is just a game and it's played for fun.
Enquiries and posts are to be encouraged as we like as much information as we can get; and it wasn't locked!
Hopefully this will be useful to help you decide Djetset!
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 22, 2016, 05:33:23 AM
No point for me - I'm the pariah. Personally I'd say one point each to the other two - they're both experienced puzzlers who would have solved this with a lock in place.
I think no one believes you placed your answer for the point.
Googling 'Ligier' and 'Heuliez' was enought to find the solution then and you wrote that you don't want it because you considered it solved.
Wendax and Oko94 should get their point but...
I believe you should get one point too, then, in order to punish you.  ;D
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: nicanary on January 22, 2016, 05:39:40 AM
No point for me - I'm the pariah. Personally I'd say one point each to the other two - they're both experienced puzzlers who would have solved this with a lock in place.
I think no one believes you placed your answer for the point.
Googling 'Ligier' and 'Heuliez' was enought to find the solution then and you wrote that you don't want it because you considered it solved.
Wendax and Oko94 should get their point but...
I believe you should get one point too, then, in order to punish you.  ;D

We have a popular saying in the UK - "I'll get my coat......"
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: oko94 on January 22, 2016, 05:44:34 AM
I know the website where these pictures are from quite well but for some reason this weird Ligier-Heuliez-Daihatsu mashup didn't leave a trace in my mind, and I didn't bother to check that source when I posted my Heuliez kind-of-wild guess. Therefore I don't exactly deserve a point but I won't complain if I get one !
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: nicanary on February 09, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
I think this one needs to be put to sleep in some way. The decision to award points is up to the puzzle-setter as far as the general ethos of AP goes.

Sorry OP, but I think the editors will consider it's up to you. I've got to 400 now, so basically I'm shafted! I'd say give the other two a point each.
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: Djetset on February 09, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
Oddly enough I was just questioning this one again with one of the editors, so let's watch this space... :(
Title: Re: Djetset 758 - Solved, but...
Post by: Djetset on February 09, 2016, 02:08:58 PM
OK, decision made.  I've awarded one point to Wendax and Oko94 each.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 758 - Ligier/Heuliez-O F 4x4 (Daihatsu F20-based)
Post by: oko94 on February 10, 2016, 12:17:47 PM
Thank you ! Points are rare these days so it's more than welcome.
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 758 - Ligier/Heuliez-O F 4x4 (Daihatsu F20-based)
Post by: Djetset on February 10, 2016, 12:23:38 PM
Thank you ! Points are rare these days so it's more than welcome.
Tell me about it!  I'm about to reach 400 points myself, which is very bad timing for me under the recent new rules, so I have this long barren period to look forward to  ???
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 758 - Ligier/Heuliez-O F 4x4 (Daihatsu F20-based)
Post by: nicanary on February 10, 2016, 01:04:12 PM
Thank you ! Points are rare these days so it's more than welcome.
Tell me about it!  I'm about to reach 400 points myself, which is very bad timing for me under the recent new rules, so I have this long barren period to look forward to  ???

I'm actually partly responsible for all of this - I suggested a sort of Super-Pro section as a way of giving a better chance to us "inbetweeners" before the usual suspects waded in. It's worked against me in a big way! Can't complain if it encourages a few of the members to have a stab at puzzles which otherwise would be solved in seconds by the Big Boys.