What's this, by whom, from when and where - for 1 point?:
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Experts?
Is it based on a British car, from about 1935? That's a decent sized steering wheel it has, it's nearly as big as the back wheel.
Austin based?
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on January 24, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Is it based on a British car, from about 1935? That's a decent sized steering wheel it has, it's nearly as big as the back wheel.
Quote from: kwgibbs on January 24, 2013, 09:55:09 PM
Austin based?
Could be as it's RHD, but base isn't actually known.
Date is probably about right.
I can now see where Ferrari got its inspiration for the window-line of the 458 Italia. ;) :D
Louvres on the bootlid? Is it rear-engined?
Is it from the Southern Hemisphere?
Any Lloyd connection?
Adler-based?
As said in Reply #4 the base isn't actually known, but it's assumed to be British since it's RHD.
That rules out Lloyd and Adler.
I was thinking of the GB Lloyd, from Grimsby. Their early cars from 1936 were rear-engined and powered by a 347cc Villiers engine - this car looks like it could be a rebodied one of those.
Quote from: nicanary on January 26, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
I was thinking of the GB Lloyd, from Grimsby. Their early cars from 1936 were rear-engined and powered by a 347cc Villiers engine - this car looks like it could be a rebodied one of those.
It is possible it's one of those then, yes, but it's not actually known. Could be that engine; I'll see if I can find out.
Quote from: Carnut on January 27, 2013, 07:11:54 AM
Quote from: nicanary on January 26, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
I was thinking of the GB Lloyd, from Grimsby. Their early cars from 1936 were rear-engined and powered by a 347cc Villiers engine - this car looks like it could be a rebodied one of those.
It is possible it's one of those then, yes, but it's not actually known. Could be that engine; I'll see if I can find out.
I can't find out what make of engine this car has, but it's entirely possible it could be Villiers.
Professionals?
Black Hole-bound?
C. Elverson & his brother. Homebuilt in New England. Rear mounted motor cycle engined car. September 1937 Motor Age article.
Terrific - you found it!
There was some suggestion it was based around a British car as it is RHD, and by its size it might well be.
What's this, by whom, from when and powered by what - for 1 point?:
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Experts?
German ?
French?
Czech ?
Europe ?
USA ?
From down under ?
Professionals?
Rear-engined?
Motorcycle engine?
Villiers?
Quote from: Wendax on May 19, 2016, 07:19:35 AM
Villiers?
I'm afraid I don't know the make of engine though..
Built between 1933 and 1937 ?
Made in 1935 ?
1936 ?
That leaves 1934
So is it a home-made car built in 1937 in Australia ?
I knew I saw it somewhere!
Mid 1930s Home-built by Elverson brothers, New England
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-neh-2400-mid-1930s-home-built-by-elverson-brothers-new-england/
Featured in a '37 issue of Motor Age Magazine. C.Elverson and his brother built this car to their own design. It is driven by a motorcycle engine mounted at the rear and it is RHD.
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on January 26, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
Is it from the Southern Hemisphere?
How did these pics from the Camping photo thread end up here? :o
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 22, 2016, 06:56:46 AM
Quote from: Craig Gillingham on January 26, 2013, 06:16:00 AM
Is it from the Southern Hemisphere?
How did these pics from the Camping photo thread end up here? :o
When we recovered the site, such accidents occurred. We tried to weed it out, well, some are still lurking around
It looks identical, but isn't this one supposed to have been built in Australia?
Edit: Of course, there is a New England in Australia too! :-[
It is the same and was built in New England (New South Wales), Australia.
And what's more PJ is right, it's a re-post...
It has only come to light as Otto was questioning something in the thread yesterday so it came as something of a surprise to read that original puzzle.
I've never heard of a New England in NSW, but that doesn't mean to say it doesn't exist..
Odd though, as this car was NOT built in Australia (nor in New England in the USA!)
What's more the builder's name was not Elverson but something very close..
So, rather than merge this, as the original puzzle doesn't give the right answers I'll leave this in place for someone to post the right answers (PJ's answer is partly correct in that it's powered by a rear-mounted motorcycle engine, but as I said it wasn't built in New England nor was the builder's name Elverson...) The article in Motor Age seems to misleading..
Who can solve this one now? Once it is solved it will have to be merged as it is the same car but the information will all have to be changed in the original puzzle to show the right answers...
The year 1937 is right, by the way.
Is the name Emerson? I guess the place can be found from the license plate...New Zealand?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 23, 2016, 05:07:20 AM
Is the name Emerson? I guess the place can be found from the license plate...New Zealand?
New Zealand is right (personally I think someone at
Motor Age mistook New Zealand for New England... Perhaps he couldn't read his own notes...!)
E*erson (* isn't an M) was the builder.
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It has to be Everson then...Cliff Everson's father perhaps ;D?
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 23, 2016, 06:11:37 AM
It has to be Everson then...Cliff Everson's father perhaps ;D?
Yes, that's right, Cliff Everson's Dad and his Uncle (his Dad's brother), though I was rather hoping for their names or at least initials.
Would you like to see if you can find them?
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Wow...that was more a joke than a guess!
I'll check my books and try to find them. I only know one of them starts with C.
I'll get back to this.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 23, 2016, 06:29:41 AM
Wow...that was more a joke than a guess!
I'll check my books and try to find them. I only know one of them starts with C.
I'll get back to this.
Good joke then!
Yes, his uncle's initial was C., but that's all that is known about him.
His father's name is known however, so just concentrate on that..
Cliff joined his father Ern at his Everson's Welding Works in Auckland in the early 50s and they built some specials called Cherub. Still nothing on his uncle and their activity in the 30s.
Quote from: Paul Jaray on May 23, 2016, 07:43:57 AM
Cliff joined his father Ern at his Everson's Welding Works in Auckland in the early 50s and they built some specials called Cherub. Still nothing on his uncle and their activity in the 30s.
Well, that's enough for the point as that's what I was looking for.
Information about him is a bit sparse but there is a little out there.
I'll merge the puzzles now and change the relevant information in the title.
Here's the original picture of my NEH 4600 with the caption underneath it.
You'll see this is Cliff's uncle rather than his father.
QuoteBetween 1935 and 1937 the Everson brothers (Ernest and Arthur) designed and built a small two-seater motor car, named the Everson Cherub. It had a streamlined design, tubular steel chassis, independent suspension, rear mounted 2.5 horsepowered two-stroke single-cylinder engine, three-speed gearbox,and twin exhausts. The car was just over four feet high and weighted about 800 lbs. Its top speed was over 50 mph, with a cruising speed of 30-35 mph and fuel consumption of about 70 mpg.[10] A least two more one-off models were made by the brothers.
2.5 bhp, eh? Performance must have been electrifying!
So Ernest's brother was Arthur; I wonder how he became Mr C. Everson...!