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Title: SOlved -PJ696- Ariete Carbiolet by R. Piccolotto, 1957
Post by: Paul Jaray on November 21, 2015, 02:16:00 PM
What is this?
1 point for you!
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 21, 2015, 02:55:24 PM
does it have any ties with bmw?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 21, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
Not that I'm aware of.
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Post by: pguillem on November 21, 2015, 04:43:33 PM
Any relation with EMW ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 21, 2015, 05:24:59 PM
Not EMW in there.
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Post by: nicanary on November 21, 2015, 06:53:59 PM
Any Gregoire connection?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 03:08:10 AM
Not Gregoire.
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 03:34:31 AM
Spanish?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 03:41:26 AM
Not Spanish.
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:02:05 AM
Italian?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:02:55 AM
Not Italian.
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:06:58 AM
European at all?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:10:54 AM
Not European.
(BTW the builder was indeed Italian, but he moved and built his car(s) elsewhere).
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:13:58 AM
In South America?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:14:26 AM
Yes!
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:15:54 AM
Argentina?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:19:51 AM
Yes!
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:22:09 AM
Not another one by Renato Ciofi?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:22:35 AM
Not him.
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Post by: oko94 on November 22, 2015, 04:35:47 AM
DKW-based ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 04:42:54 AM
Not DKW-based.
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Post by: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:44:51 AM
Italian base?
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Post by: oko94 on November 22, 2015, 04:45:36 AM
Is it FWD ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 05:02:29 AM
Quote from: Wendax on November 22, 2015, 04:44:51 AM
Italian base?
Nope.
Quote from: oko94 on November 22, 2015, 04:45:36 AM
Is it FWD ?
I don't know.
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 22, 2015, 02:15:03 PM
Was this pictured lifted from a website or from a Facebook group?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 02:24:35 PM
Not from a website or a FB group.
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Post by: pguillem on November 22, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Is it based on a Borgward ?
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Post by: targhediferro on November 22, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
Malzani?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 03:44:50 PM
Quote from: pguillem on November 22, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
Is it based on a Borgward ?
Quote from: targhediferro on November 22, 2015, 03:23:44 PM
Malzani?
My source reports jus the engine and it's not Borgward.
Not Malzani.
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Post by: pguillem on November 22, 2015, 05:42:06 PM
Renault IKA engined ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 22, 2015, 05:48:45 PM
Not Renault IKA.
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Post by: Carnut on November 22, 2015, 06:18:17 PM
British base? e.g. Riley?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2015, 02:40:45 AM
Not Britain or Riley.
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Post by: pguillem on November 28, 2015, 11:58:35 AM
Fiat engined ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2015, 12:14:59 PM
Not Fiat.
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Post by: pguillem on November 28, 2015, 12:44:59 PM
Cisitalia ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 28, 2015, 02:56:03 PM
Not Cisitalia.
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Post by: ropat53 on November 28, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Where do you find these cars? I don't know who made it but I think it's based on an Isard 700 Royal or 1204.
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Post by: pguillem on November 28, 2015, 11:14:09 PM
Ford engined ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 29, 2015, 06:56:07 AM
I have to check. He built also a Ford powered car but I don't know if it is this one.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 30, 2015, 03:27:23 AM
This one is not Ford-based.
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Post by: ropat53 on November 30, 2015, 07:19:27 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on November 28, 2015, 04:30:12 PM
Where do you find these cars? I don't know who made it but I think it's based on an Isard 700 Royal or 1204.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on November 30, 2015, 07:59:49 AM
I'm sorry...too many things to do...
I only know who built it, when, which engine was used and what was its name. No mention of Isard.
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Post by: D-type on December 01, 2015, 04:39:16 PM
My apologies for playing an elimination game.  Is the engine Italian?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 01, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Not Italian engine.
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Post by: targhediferro on December 05, 2015, 08:23:31 AM
Dkw engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 05, 2015, 08:43:11 AM
Not DKW.
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Post by: oko94 on December 05, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
European engine at all ?
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Post by: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 01, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Not Italian engine.

Argentine made Fiat engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 05, 2015, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: oko94 on December 05, 2015, 11:40:36 AM
European engine at all ?
Nope.
Quote from: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on December 01, 2015, 04:54:03 PM
Not Italian engine.

Argentine made Fiat engine?
Not Fiat engine but it could be an Argentine-made one...
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Post by: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 12:25:26 PM
IAME Institec engine?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 05, 2015, 12:39:35 PM
Not IAME.
This engine was from a manufacturer (still in business) from another country but was also in the Argentine market with locally built cars.
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Post by: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 12:48:22 PM
Porsche?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 05, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
Not Porsche.
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Post by: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 02:12:04 PM
Chevrolet?
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Post by: Wendax on December 05, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
Citroen?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 05, 2015, 03:05:15 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on December 05, 2015, 02:12:04 PM
Chevrolet?
Yes, a 3 litre Chevrolet!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 19, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
The name of this car was never used before in that form.
A tranlated version of it was a famous maker and the model of an american manufacturer.
It comes from a big and inspiring world of names...
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 08:17:06 AM
Name of an animal ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 08:22:30 AM
Yes!
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 08:52:30 AM
Name of a felidae ?
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Post by: Wendax on January 03, 2016, 09:15:52 AM
Name of a snake?
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Post by: ropat53 on January 03, 2016, 10:18:22 AM
Halcón?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
Not a felidae, a snake or a bird. There was another family of names were you can find it and was pretty much used in naming cars, makers or even pictured in the badges...but that would be far too easy ;)
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Post by: pguillem on January 03, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
Huracan ?
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 12:52:52 PM
Name of an animal that lives in the water/sea ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 12:56:27 PM
Nope...
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 03, 2016, 01:12:30 PM
Rhino?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 01:14:59 PM
Not a Rhino.
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 01:42:39 PM
Name of an insect ?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 03, 2016, 02:31:40 PM
Moose?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 02:45:06 PM
Not an insect or Moose.
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 02:47:20 PM
Name of a horse ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 02:48:23 PM
Nope...
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 02:49:31 PM
Name of a mammal ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
Nope...
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 02:55:18 PM
Name of a reptile ?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 03, 2016, 03:03:34 PM
Kangaroo?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 03:14:59 PM
Not a reptile or a Kangaroo.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 03, 2016, 03:34:05 PM
Dog?
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Post by: pguillem on January 03, 2016, 03:40:35 PM
Galgo ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 03:49:45 PM
No & no.
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 04:18:22 PM
Name of an arachnid (scorpions, spiders...) ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 05:00:46 PM
I'm sorry, I made a mistake and I found out because I think someone is on the right path.
If I'm right, oko94's next guess will be the right one.
Quote from: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 02:49:31 PM
Name of a mammal ?
Yes, sorry about that.
Locked for you.
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 05:41:56 PM
The only American car named after a non-felidae mammal that I can think of is the Impala, but there's no famous brand of that name so I'm completely lost.

Is it the name of an animal that belongs to the Caniformia suborder ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 05:57:41 PM
The American model that shares this name is not Impala (and not that relevant in automobile history) but the (european) maker is quite know...but not in that language.
I have to unlock it but here's another clue: given one of my previous hint plus your latest guesses I thought you discovered what limited group of names it was...
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Post by: oko94 on January 03, 2016, 06:04:26 PM
Well, the only mammals that I suggested so far were felidae and horses, but you dismissed both, so I don't know which of my previous guesses you're referring to.
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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 12:15:13 AM
If it's close to a horse it could be Cebra, spanish for zebra.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 01:43:29 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 03, 2016, 11:39:20 AM
Not a felidae, a snake or a bird. There was another family of names were you can find it and was pretty much used in naming cars, makers or even pictured in the badges...but that would be far too easy ;)
this other group is not about animals only but also mytological creatures...it's not big at all and in your previous guesses you named (or were close to) few of them.
These days you can encounter them quite often.
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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 01:50:38 AM
Unicornio (Unicorn/Licorne) ?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 02:27:37 AM
Not that, it is a real animal...but the language you choose is correct.
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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 02:52:08 AM
Some kind of wolf ?

Pretty much all mythological creatures don't actually exist (otherwise they wouldn't be mythological) so you lost me again !
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Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2016, 02:58:07 AM
Reno?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2016, 03:44:08 AM
Malibu?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 06:12:23 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 02:52:08 AM
Some kind of wolf ?

Pretty much all mythological creatures don't actually exist (otherwise they wouldn't be mythological) so you lost me again !
I'm reading my replies but couldn't find where I mislead you, this time.  :-\
I meant that this name (that in Italian is the answer of this puzzle) is the name of a real, mammal, Animal.
The same name was used by an American company (big, universally known and still active) for one of his models (not that lucky-known-relevant, in my opininon) in the english form of it. The same english form of it, was also a quite known European maker, active till late 30s (but there the meaning was different, btw).
Again, the same name, always in the English form, can be found in a very limited group, where you can find also
mythological creatures and reading your guesses, I had the impression you were picking from that group.
In my reply #88 there is another heavy clue...
Not Mailbu or Reno.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 04, 2016, 06:18:28 AM
some kind of a monkey?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 06:25:15 AM
Not monkey.
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 04, 2016, 06:39:58 AM
Bison?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 06:51:09 AM
Not Bison.
I suggest you to decrypt the clues...you'll know immediately when you are right ;)
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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 07:16:38 AM
Is this mammal belonging to the Carnivora order (canidae, felidae, mustelidae, ursidae, viverridae) ?
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Post by: jotage21 on January 04, 2016, 10:21:08 AM
Taurus?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2016, 10:25:55 AM
Colt?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 07:16:38 AM
Is this mammal belonging to the Carnivora order (canidae, felidae, mustelidae, ursidae, viverridae) ?
Not a Carnivora
Not a Taurus
Not a Colt.

One of these is another excellent guess in the right direction.
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Post by: pguillem on January 04, 2016, 11:14:41 AM
Toro ?
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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 11:15:38 AM
Is this mammal belonging to the Ruminantia suborder ?
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Post by: targhediferro on January 04, 2016, 11:26:54 AM
Ariete?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 04, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
Stallion?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 03:07:30 PM
 :applause: :applause: Ariete:
The name of this car was never used before in that form.
A tranlated version of it was a famous european maker active till late 30s (but there the meaning was different): Ariès
and the model of an american manufacturer (big, universally known and still active): Dodge Aries
name of a mammal animal
There was another family of names were you can find it but also mytological creatures and was pretty much used in naming cars, makers or even pictured in the badges (zodiac signs)
in your previous guesses you named (or were close to) few of them: (scorpions, spiders...)
These days you can encounter them quite often (horoscopes)

I really tried my best  ;)
Ariete it is and I am going to award you a point but you know what?
I won't tell you the builder's name, because you need it for another puzzle...this:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=32115.0
They've been built by the same man  ;)

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Post by: oko94 on January 04, 2016, 03:15:04 PM
I've always thoroughly despised anything related to astrology so it's no wonder that all your hints never rang a bell in my mind  ;D
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 03:18:47 PM
...and I keep forgetting that it's extraordinary easy when you know the answer!  ;D
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Post by: Wendax on January 04, 2016, 03:32:12 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on January 04, 2016, 03:07:30 PM
Ariete:
The name of this car was never used before in that form.
At least there was Rosengart's Ariette (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=23344).  ;)
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Post by: targhediferro on January 05, 2016, 06:16:24 AM
I thought about Dodge Ram, and Aries...but I've been very lucky!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 05, 2016, 07:57:10 AM
Puzzle solved and point added.
I'll move it when the other will be solved as well ;)
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Post by: Paul Jaray on January 10, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
Time to move now.
This is the 2nd car built by Piccolotto in 1957 and called Ariete.