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Title: Solved: PN #845 -- Benz Instruktor, 1897
Post by: pnegyesi on December 20, 2015, 11:31:57 AM
Please identify this car - I need its exact name for a point
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 03, 2016, 09:35:45 AM
Experts?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 10, 2016, 05:14:58 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: Wendax on January 10, 2016, 06:28:26 AM
This might be a 1894 Benz Patent-Motorwagen 4 PS Phaeton.
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 10, 2016, 06:47:08 AM
Benz is the easy part. Otherwise - no. And I won't lock for IDing Benz :)
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Post by: Wendax on January 10, 2016, 07:10:19 AM
It looks very much like the Roger-Benz which took part in the 1895 Paris-Bordeaux race and finished eighth needing 82 h 48 min. Is it that one?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 10, 2016, 09:20:37 AM
not a Roger-Benz
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 11, 2016, 03:20:59 PM
Is it a ca. 1895 Benz Doppelphaeton?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2016, 03:58:16 PM
It is a Benz, which has been slightly reworked and renamed. Not an original Benz, but it still carried the Benz brand name
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Post by: ropat53 on January 11, 2016, 04:01:54 PM
Scandinavia?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2016, 11:37:21 PM
no
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 22, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
Arnold Benz?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 22, 2016, 11:09:08 PM
no, it's a Benz ....
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: Oguerrerob on January 23, 2016, 10:59:49 AM
Benz-Ideal?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 23, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on January 27, 2016, 12:16:48 PM
Made in Europe ?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 27, 2016, 01:35:09 PM
yes
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Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2016, 03:19:28 AM
Made in a former Warsaw Pact country ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 28, 2016, 04:17:51 AM
well, at that time there was no Warsaw Pact but later the country became independent and later again it became part of the Warsaw Pact
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Post by: Wendax on January 28, 2016, 04:21:07 AM
Czech?
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Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2016, 04:42:06 AM
Hungary ?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on January 28, 2016, 06:37:46 AM
Poland?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 28, 2016, 01:01:38 PM
from CZ
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 28, 2016, 01:10:45 PM
 :P
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Post by: oko94 on January 28, 2016, 01:15:04 PM
Tatra-related ?
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 28, 2016, 01:22:38 PM
Was Theodor Baron von Liebieg from Reichenberg (today Liberec) involved in this project?
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Post by: grobmotorix on January 28, 2016, 01:29:48 PM
Maybe his fiancee Marie Blaschka was also involved?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 28, 2016, 11:14:46 PM
Von Liebig was involved and yes, related to Tatra's predecessor. Now who'll complete this puzzle?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: oko94 on January 29, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Benz-Präsident ?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 29, 2016, 01:19:00 AM
good guess, but no
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Post by: Wendax on January 29, 2016, 01:30:15 AM
Is Instructor the name you are looking for?
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Post by: Allan L on January 29, 2016, 03:57:11 AM
Quote from: oko94 on January 29, 2016, 01:17:02 AM
Benz-Präsident ?
If not that, perhaps Benz-Rumpler?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: oko94 on January 29, 2016, 04:09:10 AM
Benz-Nesselsdorfer ?
Title: Re: PN #845
Post by: pnegyesi on January 29, 2016, 07:02:21 AM
Wendax gets the point, as this is the Benz Instruktor.  In early 1897 the Nesselsdorfer factory bought a Benz Phaeton which became the Instruktor in Koprvinice - this was the car used by the company to learn automobile construction practices.

At the steering wheel: Leopold Svitak, next to him sits Edmund Rumpler. Behind them Frantisek Cahel, a mechanic who was trained by Carl Benz himself and Eng. Sage.