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Solved NIC#723 - 1923 Newton JCC 200-mile race

Started by nicanary, December 06, 2016, 05:36:24 AM

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nicanary

Year, make (exactly) and the race it was built for.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

FrontMan

Newton Ceirano, 1924, Brooklands 100

nicanary

Quote from: FrontMan on December 06, 2016, 04:04:14 PM
Newton Ceirano, 1924, Brooklands 100

The title of the race is wrong, the year is wrong, and personally I don't think it should have the Ceirano part of the name. Apart from that you're right.......

LOCKED for FrontMan. It shouldn't be difficult to work out what I'm expecting.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

nicanary

36 hours have elapsed.

I'll keep this locked until 10pm GMT tonight. It's all on the internet or in reference books.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

nicanary

Sorry FrontMan, I've got to unlock this.

UNLOCKED - open again for all Rookies.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

ukpco

1923 Newton, built for the 1923 200 mile Brooklands race, but failed to start the race.

According to discussions in PreWarCar the Ceirano bit was added in 1925 when Newton became importer for Ceirano cars.

nicanary

Quote from: ukpco on December 08, 2016, 06:08:31 PM
1923 Newton, built for the 1923 200 mile Brooklands race, but failed to start the race.

According to discussions in PreWarCar the Ceirano bit was added in 1925 when Newton became importer for Ceirano cars.

Yes - the point is yours.

Noel Newton had travelled to Italy to start discussion with Ceirano about working together on road cars, and came back having commissioned 3 cars for this race, although only 2 were completed. They had oil surge problems on the banking and didn't start the race.

By coincidence, I am reading the May 1964 issue of Motor Sport magazine, and in it Bill Boddy advises us that this car had been found in a shed, still on beaded-edge tyres. He calls it a Newton-Ceirano but WB was prone to gaffes, although he wouldn't admit to them. It's called a Newton-Ceirano extensively on the internet, but another member of AP has contacted me to advise me that the restorer and owner calls it a Newton. As you point out, the business tie-in with Ceirano was a few years later.

It's like saying an Austin-Healey 3000 is a Jensen. Sorry to be in pedantic mode.......
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FrontMan

Well, I'll be!....a bit of time off to help with the Christmas decorations, and I've lost a point. I suppose I should get my priorities right.

nicanary

Quote from: FrontMan on December 11, 2016, 09:44:32 AM
Well, I'll be!....a bit of time off to help with the Christmas decorations, and I've lost a point. I suppose I should get my priorities right.

No way. AP is just a game. It's happened to me and it'll happen again - just as you post the answer you see the dreaded red warning about another post on that subject. Argh!

Christmas comes but once a year - AP lasts a lifetime.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia

William Hearne.

I am pretty sure that this car is currently for sale [Bicester].