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Title: SOLVED: GTE 615 - Elvira by Pascual Benvenuto La Rocca of Argentina, 1957-58
Post by: gte4289 on October 18, 2024, 03:45:01 PM
Please identify this car for a point:
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on October 23, 2024, 07:19:11 PM
Experts?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 12:01:13 AM
Pros?
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 02:50:44 AM
Is this car an american one-off?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 02:58:15 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 02:50:44 AM
Is this car an american one-off?
One-off, but not from the U.S.
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 03:19:24 AM
European one-off?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 03:20:28 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 03:19:24 AM
European one-off?
Not European
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 06:08:23 AM
Asian?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 11:08:06 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 06:08:23 AM
Asian?
No
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
South American?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 12:19:08 PM
South American?
Yes
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 12:51:06 PM
Argentina?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 01:01:07 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 12:51:06 PM
Argentina?
Yes
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 02:17:04 PM
Marcovecchio?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 02:17:04 PM
Marcovecchio?
No
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 07:57:27 PM
Fimta?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 08:16:32 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 07:57:27 PM
Fimta?
No
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Post by: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 10:39:24 PM
Mithiaux?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2024, 10:44:12 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 30, 2024, 10:39:24 PM
Mithiaux?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 12:17:33 AM
Was the base for this car a well-known car?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2024, 01:31:31 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 12:17:33 AM
Was the base for this car a well-known car?
It wasn't based on another car. The builder constructed the chassis from scratch. The engine may have been purchased new, or taken from another vehicle. I know what type of engine it was (brand and size), but not the source.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 07:26:19 AM
Was the car given a name?
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Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2024, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 07:26:19 AM
Was the car given a name?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 10:16:09 AM
So far nothing found yet,but maybe somebody else can find something.,I,ll still try though.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: pguillem on October 31, 2024, 05:29:44 PM
Does it bear the name of an insect ?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2024, 05:50:43 PM
Quote from: pguillem on October 31, 2024, 05:29:44 PM
Does it bear the name of an insect ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 10:56:58 PM
Is it a two-seater?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on October 31, 2024, 11:17:19 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on October 31, 2024, 10:56:58 PM
Is it a two-seater?
I'm pretty sure it was intended to be a two-seater, but there are three occupants in the puzzle photo. :)
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 04:45:26 AM
IT was given a name,but was it the builder,s name?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 01, 2024, 04:46:34 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 04:45:26 AM
IT was given a name,but was it the builder,s name?
The car had its own name, not that of the builder.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 07:02:57 AM
Do you know if the builder was a mechanic or designer?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 01, 2024, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 07:02:57 AM
Do you know if the builder was a mechanic or designer?
I think a mechanic/builder, not a designer.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 09:59:24 PM
Was the builder from a major city in argentina?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 01, 2024, 10:38:48 PM
Sorry, but I don't know in which city it was built.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 11:42:07 PM
can this car be found on the web?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 02, 2024, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 01, 2024, 11:42:07 PM
can this car be found on the web?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Do you happen to have a different angle of the car?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 02, 2024, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 06:30:00 AM
Do you happen to have a different angle of the car?
I do.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 10:51:25 AM
Was the builder a well known person or rather obscure?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 02, 2024, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 10:51:25 AM
Was the builder a well known person or rather obscure?
Completely obscure.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 10:15:06 PM
Was it built from 1955-1960?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 02, 2024, 10:23:15 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 02, 2024, 10:15:06 PM
Was it built from 1955-1960?
Yes
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 12:16:24 AM
1957?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 03, 2024, 12:59:08 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 12:16:24 AM
1957?
My source says it was around that time.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 07:31:32 AM
It looks like it could be a convertible?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 03, 2024, 12:17:47 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 07:31:32 AM
It looks like it could be a convertible?
It was an open car/roadster, but I don't know if it had any top to be closed.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 10:31:38 PM
Was the name of the car in spanish or english?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 03, 2024, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 03, 2024, 10:31:38 PM
Was the name of the car in spanish or english?
Neither; it was a female name.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 06:33:35 AM
Is it Carmen?
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Post by: pguillem on November 04, 2024, 10:38:58 AM
Juanita ?
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 10:40:55 AM
Maria?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 12:07:48 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 06:33:35 AM
Is it Carmen?
No
Quote from: pguillem on November 04, 2024, 10:38:58 AM
Juanita ?
No
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 10:40:55 AM
Maria?
No

The car can be found online with the right information. I don't think the 'name game' is going to be an effective way to solve this one.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 01:37:49 PM
would the right information be about the engine and where it was built?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 01:42:59 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 01:37:49 PM
would the right information be about the engine and where it was built?
It shows up with a Google search containing information about the engine plus other information already revealed in this thread.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 03:35:25 PM
was it a ford engine used in the two-seater roadster?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 03:35:25 PM
was it a ford engine used in the two-seater roadster?
Not a Ford engine
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 05:05:12 PM
Fiat engine?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 05:29:28 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 05:05:12 PM
Fiat engine?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 07:27:45 PM
Vw engine?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 07:27:45 PM
Vw engine?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 11:18:22 PM
was it a GM engine brand used?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 04, 2024, 11:34:38 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 04, 2024, 11:18:22 PM
was it a GM engine brand used?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: pguillem on November 05, 2024, 07:12:25 AM
Mercury engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 08:02:32 AM
european engine brand?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 05, 2024, 02:13:33 PM
Quote from: pguillem on November 05, 2024, 07:12:25 AM
Mercury engine ?
No
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 08:02:32 AM
european engine brand?
Yes
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 03:35:01 PM
DKW?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 05, 2024, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 03:35:01 PM
DKW?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 10:02:25 PM
was it a british engine used?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 05, 2024, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 10:02:25 PM
was it a british engine used?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 11:45:53 PM
French?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 05, 2024, 11:54:27 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 05, 2024, 11:45:53 PM
French?
No
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Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 07:20:02 AM
Italian engine?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 07:20:02 AM
Italian engine?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 10:36:14 AM
spanish?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 10:36:14 AM
spanish?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:04:48 AM
what about a scandinavian engine ?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:04:48 AM
what about a scandinavian engine ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 12:53:50 PM
Dutch?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 02:21:31 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 12:53:50 PM
Dutch?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 04:04:08 PM
Is the engine used come from a slavic country?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 04:04:08 PM
Is the engine used come from a slavic country?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Swiss?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 04:42:32 PM
Swiss?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 05:23:27 PM
Hungarian?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 05:24:58 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 05:23:27 PM
Hungarian?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 05:56:37 PM
German?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 05:56:37 PM
German?
Yes, German brand engine.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:05:30 PM
BMW engine used?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:05:30 PM
BMW engine used?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:46:11 PM
mercedes?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 06, 2024, 11:48:09 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 06, 2024, 11:46:11 PM
mercedes?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 07, 2024, 12:28:58 AM
was it an engine from a borgward?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 12:41:22 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 07, 2024, 12:28:58 AM
was it an engine from a borgward?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 07, 2024, 07:01:31 AM
Gutbrod?
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Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 11:14:52 AM
Quote from: kwgibbs on November 07, 2024, 07:01:31 AM
Gutbrod?
No
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: kwgibbs on November 07, 2024, 11:48:04 AM
NSU?
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 01:02:32 PM
1957/58 Elvira with a 175cc Sach engine.
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: pguillem on November 07, 2024, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 01:02:32 PM
1957/58 Elvira with a 175cc Sach engine.
:applause:
Title: Re: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 02:16:06 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 01:02:32 PM
1957/58 Elvira with a 175cc Sach engine.
Correct! LOCKED for you to identify the builder.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 615
Post by: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 03:09:30 PM
Pascual Benvenuto La Rocca.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 03:09:30 PM
Pascual Benvenuto La Rocca.
:thumbsup:

Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 615
Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 03:41:00 PM
By the way, the story is told by Mario Benvenuto La Rocca, son of the builder. I'd assumed 'La Rocca' was the son's apellido materno, and so the father's/builder's name would have been simply Pascual Benvenuto. Would this be correct?
Title: Re: SOLVED: GTE 615 - Elvira by Pascual Benvenuto of Argentina, 1957-58
Post by: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 04:15:36 PM
Thank you for the point.

Quote from: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 03:41:00 PM
By the way, the story is told by Mario Benvenuto La Rocca, son of the builder. I'd assumed 'La Rocca' was the son's apellido materno, and so the father's/builder's name would have been simply Pascual Benvenuto. Would this be correct?
Maybe you're right, but as a rule in Argentina we do not use our mother's surname.
Title: Re: SOLVED: GTE 615 - Elvira by Pascual Benvenuto of Argentina, 1957-58
Post by: gte4289 on November 07, 2024, 04:18:45 PM
Quote from: ropat53 on November 07, 2024, 04:15:36 PM
...as a rule in Argentina we do not use our mother's surname.
Thank you. I've changed the thread title accordingly.