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SOLVED: si_137 - Pip Harris - TT-IoM - 1961

Started by sichel, November 13, 2021, 06:13:34 PM

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sichel

November 13, 2021, 06:13:34 PM
Another sidecar-racer? I'm putting it here because it looks so incredibly dynamic.
But for one point, I would like to know who is on the road here, where and when.

Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

sichel

#1
November 21, 2021, 04:42:05 AM
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Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

D-type

#2
November 21, 2021, 01:41:16 PM Last Edit: November 21, 2021, 01:46:17 PM by D-type
Erm. " ~ who is on the road ~ ?"  Answer :  Strictly no-one as it's off the ground. (puts pedant's hat back in the box)

Is it an NSU at the Nurburgring?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

sichel

#3
November 21, 2021, 02:09:21 PM
 :lmao: I'm not used to being taken at my word.
But sorry, neither NSU nor Nürburgring.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

D-type

#4
November 21, 2021, 02:22:26 PM
Whoops!  With that cyliner head it's got to be BMW not an NSU, and is it at the Isle of Man?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

sichel

#5
November 21, 2021, 02:29:53 PM
Why not like this  ;) It is a BMW at the Tourist Trophy. Locked for you to clarifly who is flying here and when.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

D-type

#6
November 21, 2021, 04:18:36 PM Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 01:05:44 PM by D-type
Could it be  Max Deubel & Emil Hoerner in 1964?

Plese unlock this as I am guessing at random and this was the first BMW that Google found.
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

sichel

#7
November 21, 2021, 04:27:52 PM
No, it's not Deubel/Hörner again. Btw. never saw them with a left mounted sidecar...
Well then I unlock again, too bad.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

D-type

#8
November 22, 2021, 01:28:59 PM
Is it Colin Seeley?

I'm surprised at Deubel/Hörner preferring a right-mounted sidecar. Most circuits are clockwise so have more right hand bends and a left-mounted sidecar is faster on right handers - or so a sidecar racer told me.
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

sichel

#9
November 22, 2021, 01:57:30 PM Last Edit: November 23, 2021, 03:48:36 AM by sichel
It is not Colin Seeley, but the track is much hotter than the other one.

Most german sidecar-racer in the 50's and 60's used right mounted sidecars. When they started driving in public road traffic in the case of right-hand traffic, right mounted sidecars where usual. And so the appropriate reactions have become second nature.
When accelerating, the motorbike-combination pulls to the right, when braking to the left. I don't have to stand this reactions on their heads when racing either.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

Rusty Chrome

#10
November 26, 2021, 08:03:08 PM
Fritz Scheidegger and John Robinson in the 1961 Sidecar TT?

sichel

#11
November 26, 2021, 08:12:22 PM
No, not this excellent team
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

Rusty Chrome

#12
November 27, 2021, 05:49:13 AM
It must be Pip Harris and Ray Campbell, who came in third in the 1961 TT.

sichel

#13
November 27, 2021, 08:26:36 AM Last Edit: November 28, 2021, 10:48:41 AM by sichel
Yes, you are right. Details at sunday.
This is your next point.
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke

fromwien

#14
December 03, 2021, 12:13:33 PM
This picture shows Scheidegger, Deubel and Pip Harris at the start of the TT 1961

sichel

#15
December 03, 2021, 12:41:59 PM Last Edit: December 03, 2021, 01:55:12 PM by sichel
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: , thank you!
Ein Henschel zieht am Berg und ein Mercedes
an den Türen. (and an attempt of a translation):
A Henschel in rushing up the hill, wheras in a Mercedes wind is rushing through the doors. c/o norberthanke
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