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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2024 => Topic started by: sichel on August 14, 2024, 04:55:47 PM

Title: SOLVED: si_656 - Westinghouse - 40 HP - from MARTA, Arad (H) - 1910
Post by: sichel on August 14, 2024, 04:55:47 PM
Please state the manufacturer, type designation, year of manufacture and place of manufacture.
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Post by: sichel on August 20, 2024, 02:50:35 PM
Up
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Post by: sichel on September 03, 2024, 10:27:12 AM
Up
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Post by: ropat53 on September 10, 2024, 03:32:37 PM
Made in USA?
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Post by: sichel on September 11, 2024, 01:53:54 PM
Not built in the USA, but there is a connection there.
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Post by: ropat53 on September 11, 2024, 02:18:56 PM
Built in Europe under American license?
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Post by: sichel on September 12, 2024, 02:01:01 PM
Yes.
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Post by: ropat53 on September 12, 2024, 02:20:40 PM
Packard?
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 12, 2024, 02:21:21 PM
German
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Post by: sichel on September 12, 2024, 02:35:38 PM
Neither Packard nor German.
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Post by: ropat53 on September 12, 2024, 04:43:33 PM
Pierce Arrow?
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Post by: sichel on September 13, 2024, 01:37:32 AM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 13, 2024, 04:30:56 AM
GB
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Post by: sichel on September 13, 2024, 05:20:51 AM
No
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 13, 2024, 06:11:55 AM
French
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Post by: sichel on September 13, 2024, 06:32:49 AM
No
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 13, 2024, 06:55:39 AM
Italy
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Post by: sichel on September 13, 2024, 11:37:05 AM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 13, 2024, 12:23:52 PM
Europ ?
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Post by: ropat53 on September 13, 2024, 02:09:31 PM
GMC?
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Post by: sichel on September 13, 2024, 03:35:15 PM
Europ: Yes
GMC: No
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Post by: ropat53 on September 13, 2024, 06:19:46 PM
Peerless made in Holland?
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Post by: sichel on September 14, 2024, 03:42:03 AM
Neither peerless nor Holland.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 14, 2024, 04:45:30 AM
NL ?
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Post by: sichel on September 14, 2024, 05:36:18 AM
Not even that.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 14, 2024, 06:59:15 AM
CH
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Post by: ropat53 on September 14, 2024, 08:57:49 AM
Mack from Scandinavia?
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Post by: sichel on September 14, 2024, 09:58:37 AM
Ne.ither Switzerland, nor Mack or Scandinavia.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 14, 2024, 10:44:47 AM
Spain
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Post by: sichel on September 14, 2024, 01:55:26 PM
No
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 14, 2024, 02:20:26 PM
Belgium
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Post by: sichel on September 14, 2024, 02:25:04 PM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 15, 2024, 05:45:37 AM
Eastern Europ
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Post by: ropat53 on September 15, 2024, 08:32:05 AM
Austria?
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Post by: sichel on September 15, 2024, 11:49:40 AM
Eastern Europ: Yes
Austria: No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 15, 2024, 02:17:41 PM
Hungary
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Post by: sichel on September 15, 2024, 02:19:07 PM
Yes!!
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Post by: Bill d isere on September 15, 2024, 02:51:50 PM
Mavag
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Post by: sichel on September 15, 2024, 03:10:39 PM
No.
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Post by: ropat53 on September 15, 2024, 04:39:19 PM
Rába?
1908 Westinghouse truck made at the MARTA factory (Magyar Automobil Részvény Társaság Arad) in Arad.
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Post by: sichel on September 16, 2024, 06:35:05 AM
Quote from: ropat53 on September 15, 2024, 04:39:19 PM
Rába?
1908 Westinghouse truck made at the MARTA factory (Magyar Automobil Részvény Társaság Arad) in Arad.
Yes!! Very good job  :thumbsup:
However, I have a different year of manufacture and the type designation (as power) is missing.
Locked for ropat53
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Post by: ropat53 on September 16, 2024, 07:46:37 AM
1910 40hp?
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Post by: sichel on September 16, 2024, 07:57:58 AM
Yes, and yet another point.
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_656 - Westinghouse - 40 HP - from MARTA, Arad (H) - 1910
Post by: ropat53 on September 16, 2024, 09:43:58 AM
Thank you for the point?
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_656 - Westinghouse - 40 HP - from MARTA, Arad (H) - 1910
Post by: pnegyesi on October 13, 2024, 03:31:18 AM
Magyar Automobil Rt Westinghouse-rendszer (Hungarian Automobile Ltd Westinghouse-system) was set up in 1908 in the city of Arad. It was using licence from the French subsidiary of Westinghouse and the French company even had a stake in the factory. There is precious little known about the early history of the factory until 1911 when it went bankrupt. There were probably a few dozen vehicles built, including the truck pictured using French parts. In 1911 the factory went bankrupt and was saved by a Hungarian rubber company. It was renamed to MARTA (Magyar Automobil Rt Arad - Hungarian Automobile Ltd Arad). Westinghouse was out. Trucks became the mainstay of the company, licence of a 5 ton chassis from Daimler was bought in Germany. Passenger cars were also built based on the old Westinghouse design.
There are many, many myths surrounding this company, including a very recent project by the mayor's office in Arad building a modern recreation of a double-decker bus which was "made in Hungary" - in reality the bus was made in France by Westinghouse and supplied to Arad before the Hungarian factory was completed.
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_656 - Westinghouse - 40 HP - from MARTA, Arad (H) - 1910
Post by: sichel on October 13, 2024, 05:22:42 AM
Many thanks for this background informations.
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