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Title: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: Djetset on January 12, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
I have a fear that this one may be a re-post, but I've searched it and it doesn't show up.  So, for a point, what is it?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Arunas on January 13, 2011, 02:02:59 AM
wow, in colour!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on January 20, 2011, 03:45:15 PM
Up, up and away?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: geology on January 20, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
Works Design Curtana from 1990
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Carnut on January 21, 2011, 04:18:45 AM
Looks rather like one of Franco Sbarro's creations?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on January 27, 2011, 05:24:52 PM
Not a Sbarro, and not a Curtana either, although I can see where Geology is coming from on this one.
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: geology on February 11, 2011, 03:34:32 AM
I have it recorded in a book as the 1990 Curtana Prototype, could that be the answer you were looking for?, I have PM'd you a link to the article online.
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on February 21, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
I'm tempted to award you a point as this car is related to the Curtana, but it is not a Curtana.  I'll lock it for you again for a further 48 hours.

BTW, impressed that you have accumulated over 100 points when you have only made 80 posts.  That's what I call a strong point-to-post ratio!  ;D
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: geology on February 21, 2011, 03:43:43 PM
Thanks for the lock, but I think best to keep it open, I've drawn a blank on this one up to now.  The photo you posted is exactly the same one I have except yours is in colour (I agree with Arunas on that!).   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Carnut on February 22, 2011, 06:02:41 AM
Quote from: Djetset on February 21, 2011, 02:12:32 PM
BTW, impressed that you have accumulated over 100 points when you have only made 80 posts.  That's what I call a strong point-to-post ratio!  ;D

Sure beats mine..!
By the way Djetset I note your 4000th post came and went without comment so I'm commenting on it now!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on February 22, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
Thank you for acknowledging this milestone Carnut.  I now feel like I'm now part of the AutoPuzzles furniture!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on March 21, 2011, 04:28:04 PM
Curtana-like, but this is under another name which one of the Pros will know.  So...?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: pnegyesi on March 21, 2011, 04:49:03 PM
Are you looking for the name Avalon?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on March 21, 2011, 04:49:59 PM
No, not Avalon
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Arunas on March 21, 2011, 05:20:58 PM
I also thought this could be Avalon S30 (250LE) if itn't not Curtana, but...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on March 21, 2011, 05:25:49 PM
I see why you are thinking that, but...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on October 06, 2011, 01:50:45 PM
Still looking for that elusive name. Any ideas, or off to the Black Hole it goes...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on October 07, 2011, 03:51:13 AM
Off it goes...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Quiller on October 07, 2011, 07:36:08 AM
This exact photo does appear in a contemporary item about the Avalon...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on October 07, 2011, 07:39:12 AM
Oh my, Avalon is not the name I am looking for.  Sorry!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 18, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
From Steve Hole's new book:
"Originally known as the Curtana, the S350 (later 250LE) was underpinned by a spaceframe chassis and a combination of Ford Escort Mk3 and Cortina parts with power coming from a CVH engine and came from a Sheffield-based company. Design by Richard Ashby of The Works Design Studio, who later designed the Savant/Quantum Xtreme.
Never seen again after its initial -and only- show debut.
Avalon Automotive 1990"

Nothing new here... :-\
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 19, 2012, 03:40:34 PM
I hope we are close to a solution...
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on March 19, 2012, 04:34:03 PM
All the names that have been mentioned so far can be applied to this car.  However, it also briefly had another name, and one that is not mentioned I believe in that book!  :-\
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 21, 2012, 07:00:21 PM
You must have some very good source!  ;D
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Carnut on April 11, 2013, 07:35:06 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 18, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
From Steve Hole's new book:
"Originally known as the Curtana, the S350 (later 250LE) was underpinned by a spaceframe chassis and a combination of Ford Escort Mk3 and Cortina parts with power coming from a CVH engine and came from a Sheffield-based company. Design by Richard Ashby of The Works Design Studio, who later designed the Savant/Quantum Xtreme.
Never seen again after its initial -and only- show debut.
Avalon Automotive 1990"

Nothing new here... :-\

This one (highlighted by Wendax in its thread back to this thread) is actually the same picture even...:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20331.0
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on April 11, 2013, 02:35:31 PM
Sorry, but pre the Curtana and Avalon, this car (very briefly) went under another name, and which no one has mentioned as yet.  This photo was originally used under this mystery name!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 04, 2016, 09:51:16 AM
This other name was a Company's name? And in case, did this company produce any other car (or vehicles)?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on June 08, 2016, 10:57:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 04, 2016, 09:51:16 AM
This other name was a Company's name? And in case, did this company produce any other car (or vehicles)?
AFAIK, this car was originally named after its creator (a clue!), who did not go on to produce any other cars that I know of.
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on June 08, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
 Richard Ashby?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on June 08, 2016, 01:20:29 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on June 08, 2016, 11:20:10 AM
Richard Ashby?
No, not him.
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 18, 2017, 07:33:01 AM
This one drove me mad!
I found 7/8 articles about it and all of them with the same story:
originally named the Curtana when announced in late 1990 by Richard Ashby's The Works Design Studio in Stocksbridge, Sheffield, it was renamed Avalon S30 at his debout at Stoneleigh in 1991. It was soon renamed Avalon 250LE (because it was planned in 250 exemplars only) early 1992, when it was "at last ready to enter production" by Avalon Automotive.
...but finally, hundreds of magazines later, in 1996 (!) I found out the missing bit:
the company in charge at that time was CHARIS, from Bakewell, Derbyshire!
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: grobmotorix on April 19, 2017, 12:02:21 PM
Is there any connection to Nicolas Bourbon?
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: pnegyesi on April 20, 2017, 12:08:24 AM
way to go PJ :)
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 25, 2017, 09:37:00 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on April 20, 2017, 12:08:24 AM
way to go PJ :)
I don't know if that's the final answer...he wrote " pre the Curtana and Avalon, this car (very briefly) went under another name, and which no one has mentioned as yet.  This photo was originally used under this mystery name!" and "this car was originally named after its creator (a clue!), who did not go on to produce any other cars that I know of"
...I found the company that took over the project few years later and not this original 1st name  :-\
Title: Re: Djetset #474
Post by: Djetset on May 15, 2017, 10:38:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on April 18, 2017, 07:33:01 AM
This one drove me mad!
I found 7/8 articles about it and all of them with the same story:
originally named the Curtana when announced in late 1990 by Richard Ashby's The Works Design Studio in Stocksbridge, Sheffield, it was renamed Avalon S30 at his debout at Stoneleigh in 1991. It was soon renamed Avalon 250LE (because it was planned in 250 exemplars only) early 1992, when it was "at last ready to enter production" by Avalon Automotive.
...but finally, hundreds of magazines later, in 1996 (!) I found out the missing bit:
the company in charge at that time was CHARIS, from Bakewell, Derbyshire!
Sorry for the slow response to this on PJ, but I have only just found my original information source, which wasn't any kit car magazine, but instead a 1995 issue to Autocar magazine (where I took the photo from), written about because of its bold claim to be the first car in the world to have a plastic chassis, engine and wheels! 

Considering the very short of this car, it seems to have one of the most confusing histories of all time, but Charise was the name I was looking for.  At various other times the car was also called the Avalon (S30 and 250LE), as well as the Curtana from the Works Design Studio, as has been mentioned previously.

Well done, another two points to you, to now break the 2,000 points barrier!   :applause:
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: oko94 on May 15, 2017, 11:13:26 AM
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: Carnut on May 15, 2017, 11:45:56 AM
2000 points PJ!
What a fantastic achievement.
It should be sent off to the Guiness Book of Records!
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: Oguerrerob on May 15, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
Congrats!!!! 2000 + 1  :applause:
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: Arunas on May 15, 2017, 02:31:51 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on May 15, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
Congrats!!!! 2000 + 1  :applause:
Insane!.... Much congrats, Francesco! You're the best of the best!!!
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset #474 - Charis Coupe (a.k.a. Curtana and Avalon)
Post by: Paul Jaray on May 15, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
Thank you all!
This goal arrived the same week I passed 20000 names in my index (now are 20040!) and I finally decided to prepare a new website.
It will take time...I'll keep you posted  ;)