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Title: SOLVED: Djetset 809 - Mistron second body, c. 1973
Post by: Djetset on January 26, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
Name this machine for one point please before our motor racing expert Nicanary tells us what it is (only joking) ;)
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 03, 2017, 06:16:51 PM
On the next lap...
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 12, 2017, 06:34:44 AM
 Which Pro will beat Nicanary to take the chequered flag here?  :)
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 12, 2017, 06:42:17 AM
Just about anyone....... I haven't a clue - I know very little about racing after the mid-'60s. Could it be something built for the 2-litre European Sports Car Championship?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 13, 2017, 08:18:06 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 12, 2017, 06:42:17 AM
Just about anyone....... I haven't a clue - I know very little about racing after the mid-'60s. Could it be something built for the 2-litre European Sports Car Championship?

Oh, I thought you were the chap for ALL motor sport related trivia, as your general knowledge seems far superior to mine in this area.  As if to prove the point, I am not entirely sure what this car competed in, but I will revisit my source and confirm, or otherwise...
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 04:09:04 AM
Is it German?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 16, 2017, 04:33:28 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 04:09:04 AM
Is it German?
Nein.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 05:14:19 AM
It reminds me so much of the BRM P154 but obviously that's not the answer. This is a much smaller-engined car.

British?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 16, 2017, 05:20:52 AM
Yes, it is British.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 05:54:03 AM
SAR ?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 16, 2017, 06:02:07 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 05:54:03 AM
SAR ?
No.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 11:29:06 AM
Did it take part in International Group 6 events?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: shamrock on February 16, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Vogue
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2017, 05:20:41 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 16, 2017, 11:29:06 AM
Did it take part in International Group 6 events?
Sorry Nicanary , but from my information source it is not clear what this car would have competed in.  If it helps, the car was originally fitted with a 1,000cc  engine, which was later upgraded to a 1,200cc motor.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2017, 05:21:06 AM
Quote from: shamrock on February 16, 2017, 02:02:49 PM
Vogue
Sorry, but that's not the name I have.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: shamrock on February 17, 2017, 06:56:34 AM
a Juno
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2017, 07:08:26 AM
Quote from: shamrock on February 17, 2017, 06:56:34 AM
a Juno
No, less mainstream!
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 17, 2017, 07:15:12 AM
Would the 1000cc engine have been a Ford MAE?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 17, 2017, 07:39:17 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 17, 2017, 07:15:12 AM
Would the 1000cc engine have been a Ford MAE?
No, it was a BMC unit, with the later 1.2-litre fitted being a Ford lump.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 07:00:32 AM
Quote from: Djetset on February 17, 2017, 07:39:17 AM
Quote from: nicanary on February 17, 2017, 07:15:12 AM
Would the 1000cc engine have been a Ford MAE?
No, it was a BMC unit, with the later 1.2-litre fitted being a Ford lump.

Thanks for being helpful with clues - it's much appreciated. I'd put the date of the car at around 1972-1975, so the use of a BMC engine is interesting. I don't suppose you know whether it is a transverse unit?
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 18, 2017, 10:19:37 AM
Sorry Nicanary but I'm not 100% certain if the 1-litre BMC unit was traversely-mounted, but I think it more likely that it was in-line. Your timing for the bodywork seems about right.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: Djetset on February 18, 2017, 10:19:37 AM
Sorry Nicanary but I'm not 100% certain if the 1-litre BMC unit was traversely-mounted, but I think it more likely that it was in-line. Your timing for the bodywork seems about right.

We all know about a certain site which would have been helpful if the motor had been transverse  ;D. I think you're probably right because there's nothing on that site about this car AFAIK.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
I've found it, but TBH the narrative of the webpage is not totally clear - is this the Tri-One? In which case it was built for F1200 racing.
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 18, 2017, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 12:05:06 PM
I've found it, but TBH the narrative of the webpage is not totally clear - is this the Tri-One? In which case it was built for F1200 racing.
It's not the Tri-One I'm afraid, and this one has a twist to it!
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
As I guessed, I misunderstood the source. Then it should be the rebodied Pandora/Mistron which has actually been a previous puzzle in its original form. I think in your puzzle it's in its Mistron guise. The older body was damaged in 1971 and replaced by this one so the photo should date from 1972.

(BTW I'd been trying to identify the circuit from the distinctive sloping dividing walls - it's only now I've seen the larger photo that I know the "walls" are actually chairs perched on the counter!)
Title: Re: Djetset 809
Post by: Djetset on February 18, 2017, 01:25:36 PM
Well done indeed, as this is the second replacement body for the Mistron (c.1973) after the original (and far prettier) 1960s body was distroyed in a car trailer accident. Another point, and I originally said you would get this one  :D!
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 809 - Mistron second body, c. 1973
Post by: nicanary on February 18, 2017, 01:37:13 PM
I'd been using a thread on a "nostalgic" forum - then I found a far more detailed account of the car's history on the 'net and this saved the day.

(I stopped attending national racing at the end of the '60s when women became more interesting, and now realise that I did the wrong thing. Too late. Hence anything after about 1968/69 is a bit of a mystery.)
Title: Re: SOLVED: Djetset 809 - Mistron second body, c. 1973
Post by: Djetset on February 18, 2017, 01:49:13 PM
Agreed, women are certainly more interesting, but frustratingly more complex and expensive than cars most of the time  :) !