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Fiat 1900 berlinetta Vignale?
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Fiat - Yes
Vignale - Yes
1900 - no...
1400?
Fiat 1400 by Vignale.
Only I still need some more details and a reasonable year to award this point.
Three more tries...
I am on vacation with no access to my records. I think it was made for a opera bass singer called Tancredi Pasero and exhibited at Torino car show. 1953?
Sorry Hiawatha, I was not precise enough.
I was not a 1400 and not a 1900...
And 1953 would be just one year too early.
I don´t know of the named opera singer.
Due to my mistake you still have three more tries, ok?
Open for all again...
I believe it's the Vignale Fiat "Antibes" based on a Fiat 1100/103.
It was built in 1953 (not 1954!) for Alfredo's friend and supporter Dr. Aldo Luino.
I don't wish to steal a point from Hiawatha but actually since he's a Professional now he's no longer eligible to take part in this puzzle... Sorry Hiawatha!
Images are curiously hard to find but here's one:
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Your point carnut!
QuoteI don't wish to steal a point from Hiawatha but actually since he's a Professional now he's no longer eligible to take part in this puzzle...
Since whgen you can not give answers higher than you current status?
Of course a Professional can not answer Rookie or Expert puzzles, but wasn´t it always pussible the other way round?
If so, I am very sorry Hiawatha - I did not realize that fact... :bag:
Quote from: grobmotorix on August 16, 2017, 11:58:48 PM
Your point carnut!
QuoteI don't wish to steal a point from Hiawatha but actually since he's a Professional now he's no longer eligible to take part in this puzzle...
Since whgen you can not give answers higher than you current status?
Of course a Professional can not answer Rookie or Expert puzzles, but wasn´t it always pussible the other way round?
If so, I am very sorry Hiawatha - I did not realize that fact... :bag:
You've got it there: "Of course a Professional can not answer Rookie or Expert puzzles"; Hiawatha is a Professional and this is the Experts board!
Oh my...
Did I move it from Professional status back to the Expert status?
I can not remember really.
If so I am really sorry...
I don't think it ever reached the Pro's!
No problem; it won't now!
Are we really sure it's a 1100 TV? On Sannia book of the 1400/1900 the car is identified as a Fiat 1900 Berlinetta for Tancredi Pasero as I stated in one of my previous answer. The way the windscreen wipers sit also point to a Fiat 1400/1900. Not here for a point of course, just to clarify.
I got the information from Alfredo Zanalletto Vignale's book "Vignale".
The page is pictured below; the text is not very clear but it says "Another example of the evolution idea to the execution of the bodywork can be seen in the "Antibes", 1953 sports car based on the Fiat 1100/103 chassis; born as a spider with boat style sides in mahogany planking in the sketch, it became a coupé in the technical drawing then only kept some wood trim below the belt-line in the actual execution."
I assumed the mechanials were also Fiat 1100/103.
The other picture is from another chapter in the same book, about VIP customers, and shows "Clare Boothe Luce, United States Ambassador to Italy and wife of the famous publisher, visiting the Vignale stand at the 1954 Turin Motor Show" (note the later date than it says accompanying the other picture).
I don't have the Alesssandro Sannia book on the 1400/1900 but the drawings in the above picture are shown in his book on the nuova 1100 fuoriserie, captioned "un figurino ed un piano di forma per la Antibes, sempre su autotelaio 1100 e sempre opera della matita di Michelotti (1954).
So there Alessandro says it's based on the 1100.
At this stage maybe Alessandro can clarify..
It's a very pretty car. Among the better looking Fiat specials of the time. I do wonder what happened to it? Little seems to be known and the last time it was seen seems to have been outside of that workshop in the USA (pictured above).
It is indeed a Fiat 1100/103.
Pasero's 1900 was similar, and that caused my mistake in the "Fiat 1400-190 fuoriserie" book. What's written in "Vignale" is more accurate.